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Subject: Cindytalk, San Fran..er, san jose...
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 00:00:25 -0500
From: GrimaceSCU@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: ESP CONTINENT SLEEVE
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:48:28 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: E.S.P. "Continent" / Time Stereo question
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:01:18 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: UVS...not. jN and my thoughts on grammy nighty night...
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:28:37 -0800
From: noiseprincess (kelli@netcom.com)
Subject: Info on Martinis?
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 03:55:26 -0500
From: "John, Jacci, and Madison" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: your favorite music web sites?
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 00:05:26 -0500
From: the Trelesta Guardian (winter.solstice@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: New music & schtuff
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 23:14:56 -0800
From: "Jose A. Garcia Triana Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: New music & schtuff
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 21:09:09 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: bootlegs
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:24:05 +0100
From: Pascal Berest (berest@ARIANE.FAST.U-PSUD.FR)
Subject: Spaceman - Zoo? / Frazier Chorus / Xymox
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:40:12 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: bootlegs
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:31:33 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Bob Hund rules!
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:26:13 EST
From: "Matthew A. Neimark" (mattn@MIT.EDU)
Subject: OMD OMD OMD?
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 04:03:13 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: Info on Martinis?
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:27:12 -0800
From: Super 31 (super31@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: bootlegs
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:35:08 +0100
From: Pascal Berest (berest@ARIANE.FAST.U-PSUD.FR)
Subject: Re: Info on Martinis?
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 09:22:08 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: What if Lush.....
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:11:10 -0500
From: Matt Matuga (mesh@KIVA.NET)
Subject: Re: E.S.P. "Continent" / Time Stereo question
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:01:46 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: catalogue deletion Q
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:48:57 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: E.S.P. "Continent" / Time Stereo question
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:01:46 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: another astronomical event alert
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:42:17 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Tortoise reviewed
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:32:53 -0500
From: Jeffrey Timothy Jacob (tjacob@EMORY.EDU)
Subject: Caroline Lavelle
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:40:02 +0100
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Re: MINTY : Very slow response here... Sorry if it's already been
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 00:40:05 +0100
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: v23 T sirts
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:02:26 -0500
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Is Minty...?
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:07:48 -0500
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Shaving The Pavement (info?)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:22:16 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Lush promo e.p.
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:22:17 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: From A to Z
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:28:42 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 00:00:25 -0500
From: GrimaceSCU@AOL.COM
Subject: Cindytalk, San Fran..er, san jose...


Alas, the San Francisco dates are no more (i'm a fuckup make sure you address
the hate mail right here), but the two in the South Bay are still on.  The
show on Monday March 4 at the Cactus Club is with Henry's Dress (slumberland)
and Cindytalk go on at 12 or 12:30.  The show is FREE.  the show at Santa
Clara University is on Sunday March 3 and is in the Brass Rail Cafe.  The
price for this one is a $4 donation which goes straight to the band.  Yes,
you can get in for free, but isn't that a bit rude?  The Brass Rail isn't
tough to get to.  If you're taking 101 take it to 880 S.  If you're taking
280 take it to 880 N.  If you're taking 880, exit at the Santa Clara
University (Alameda) exit.  Follow Alameda (if you're exiting from 880 north,
you'll go left at the exit) until it forks (the light past newhall) take the
left turn which continues as Alameda and you can see an eleven story building
with a big flashing light on it which Swig Hall (the freshman dorm)  The
Benson Memorial Center (brass rail is in the downstairs area of BMC) is the
building right before you reach Swig.  Alviso Street splits the campus and
benson and swig frame alviso.  Is that clear?  There will be signs pointing
the way.  It's not tough to get to, it's just awkward.  The SCU show starts
at 7:30. Cindytalk will go on about 9:30.  I'm sorry I'm a fuckup and I hope
this doesn't inconvenience anybody too much.  Also....you can take Cal Trains
from San Francisco to the Santa Clara University stop and just follow the
flashing red light (the one that's on top of Swig)....it's too bad BART
doesn't come to the South Bay.....

love David (who thinks that ulcers are nothing to scoff at)
ps...the Brass Rail is a very intimate room (small dance floor, tables and
chairs) and has a pizza hut and taco bell right outside the door.  lovely.

please forward this to anyone you think might be interested.
I forgot the address for the dreampop lists and never cared for
any of the gothic or industrial lists.

bye


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:48:28 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: ESP CONTINENT SLEEVE


>somebody recently posted a www URL where one could view the sleeve for
>the ESP Continent cd.  i kinda accidentally deleted the message, and
>would appreciate a repost if possible (sorry, and thanks)

always forget urls, but if i can remember the first part, i find what i'm
looking for.

BiZ


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:01:18 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: E.S.P. "Continent" / Time Stereo question


> >it...  I hope to snag the Perd. Plastics version too...
> apparently you all missed this when i posted it a week ago.  you can
> mailorder them from the record collector.  they have a few copies now.  it

The Perdition Plastics or the Karina Square issue?

> cost me $22 and took four days.  telephone is 810-473-8350.  i used a
> mastercard, but i think they take other things.  my case was smashed to

Is the Record Collector taking credit card by phone now for orders?  What
about for the Time Stereo stuff?

> do you have the list with the t-shirt, alice cooper tribute, etc?  that's
> the latest one i got, and i just got a package in the mail the other day.
> i'd just call them and ask, if i were you.  they're super nice.

Yeah, I got that list... but wasn't there a Princess Dragon Mom video too
(not on the list), and a few other things...

Mike

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:28:37 -0800
From: noiseprincess (kelli@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: UVS...not. jN and my thoughts on grammy nighty night...


> Don't you mean it starts with a "j" and ends with an "N".  ;)

  well, yes. tho, he is not netty now, and so endeth the li'l letter/
  big letter thing for him...for a li'l while, at least. ;)
  {however, he still has the li'l d*ck/big a**h*l* thing in full effect}

  i watched the grammy telecast and only have a few words of uninteresting
  wisdom...

  much as they touted the hipper and more refreshed version of the award
  show, it still had a lot of dull sheen to it. awards are given and
  speeches are to be made...but are cut off. if people want to thank
  the world, let 'em. it's not like they are guaranteed another award
  in the future anyway. and it's not like it would cut into the ever so
  dull television line-up {well, not where CBS is concerned}.
  eddie vedder vedder bedwetter's angst and i'm-too-kool attitude was
  highly amusing to me early on in their preschool days of music megahitdom
  {no, my mushed up words are not easy to follow. i apologize for it...
  sort of}. however, he certainly kicked off the show with a grande
  anti-grammy statement {garth brooks, he is not}. buzzkill of the evening.
  i'm superkool...i'm eddie pearl jam...i hate what these awards shows
  stand for, if they stand for anything, yet i went nonetheless...
  if he wants to be so alternative, he should give all of his money away and
  live like the angsty grungehead he portrays himself as.
  i'm so proud of alanis, btw.

  that's all i have to say about the evening. coolio rokked in the only
  way coolio can. mariah went home with nothing, and that alone is
  reason enough to celebrate.


  haagen dazs zesty lemon sorbet is eating my stomach,
  k-j


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 03:55:26 -0500
From: "John, Jacci, and Madison" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Info on Martinis?


A friend of mine e-mailed me wondering about a band he just heard of called
the Martinis.  Evidently David Lovering and Joey Santiago from the Pixies
are in the band.

Can anyone confirm this?  Does anyone have any info on them? Like, do they
have any albums out?  Have they done any touring?  Please any info would be
helpful.

Thanks alot.

.still waiting in vain for someone with Pooka info.


%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
john b. jones                          e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu
              http://web.syr.edu/~jojones

QUOTE OF THE MONTH:
When explaining themselves, most people take you from point A to B.
Tori's method is to stand on point B, waving her arms, saying, "Hey! Can
you guess how I got here?"  -Gavin Edwards, on Tori Amos.
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 00:05:26 -0500
From: the Trelesta Guardian (winter.solstice@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: your favorite music web sites?


Details? I used to read that magazine...hmmmm


anyway, I've got some favorite-band sites you should check out (for yrself
or or the mag). I've got tons more but these are a few favs..

the verve:      http://www.polaris.net/~verve/theverve/
tori amos:      http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/nocturne/tori.html
dead can dance: http://www.nets.com/dcd/
bauhaus         http://www.mordor.com/bauhaus/
american rcds.: http://american.recordings.com/
sonic youth:    http://geffen.com/sonic.html

and my work-in-prog zine site at:
                http://members.aol.com/WintrSolst/index.html
                (soon to move to www.worldnet.att.net, I hope!)
                and you might not want to bother looking now, it's having
problems!
trel

Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 23:14:56 -0800
From: "Jose A. Garcia Triana Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: New music & schtuff


>
> I also saw to promo only Wolfgang Press remix albums, but lacked the cash to
> get them.  Are these possibly the same tracks as I've heard about being on
> this mythical TWP remix album planned for the future? Anyone?  They had the
> B-sides from the "Going South" single, as well as the Adrian Sherwood mix of
> "Christianity", which is one of my favorites (where's this originally from?
> I have it on the Doom Generation soundtrack), possibly the Wicked Man remix
> (can't remember for sure), and a few more.  They also had the Sabres Mix 1
> of "Going South" and a mix of "Executioner", neither of which I'd seen
> before.  Where are these from?

        This remix compilation is supposed to come out sometime in May
        (according to the Phone Hotlist)

>
> And OMD's Dazzleships is still one of the strangest, coolest albums ever.     
 just love Telegraph & Silent Running
        But Architecture & Morality IS their best!


Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 21:09:09 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: New music & schtuff


>>And OMD's Dazzleships is still one of the strangest, coolest albums ever.
>
>I really like "Architecture and Morality" as well.  It was recently (in the
>last year or so) reissued in the U.S.
>
>Martin

Ah, yes.  Actually, that and "Organization" are my next favorites of theirs
after "Dazzleships."  It's funny, people tend to associate them with happy,
poppy _Pretty in Pink_ music, when their earlier stuff was some seriously
weird ass shit.  There's a song on Dazzleships that's entirely made up of
the message you get when you call for the correct time in various countries
around the world with some odd beeping noises in the background.  And I
think any album that uses a Speak & Spell for an instrument is inherently cool.

Jake

Who loooooves to play Go.

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:24:05 +0100
From: Pascal Berest (berest@ARIANE.FAST.U-PSUD.FR)
Subject: bootlegs


Hello.

I am searching bootlegs from the groops you are talking about in this list.
The 4AD groops but some others too. I have some bootlegs from Belly,
Breeders, Stereolab, Dead Can Dance, Lush, My Bloody Valentine, Pale
Saints, Pixies, etc...
So if you are interested by trades, contact me.

Bye. Pascal.


fantastic french groop called Carmine. It's into Can, Sonic Youth and
others like that. Really good./


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:40:12 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Spaceman - Zoo? / Frazier Chorus / Xymox


This Spaceman song by Babylon Zoo tickles my fancy. Anybody dared
to play the whole LP? If so, any comments? Spaceman the single seems to be an
attempt to imitate early Bowie /T Rex, and I think a whole LP may be a
bit much (I can live with the single).

On a 4AD note, I received the Sloppy Heart 12" in the mail last week (as well as
A Day 12" on vinyl !), and I had a good listen to the three tracks. Storm, Typic
l and
Sloppy Heart all appear on Sue (I think) in different forms (IMO, the non-4AD St
rm is
far better). These tracks were obviously re-recorded for the Virgin release. Can
anybody
tell me why they left 4AD after one (good) EP. They then go to Virgin where the 
est songs
are 4AD rerecordings, release Ray (not so good) and sort of dissapear. Would we 
ave
been more forgiving if they had kept on releasing slop through 4AD?

I just realised I also received the Blind Hearts EP (which was also the last thi
g a 4AD artist
did before signing to a major). Blind Hearts and A million things are also diffe
ent to
the Album tracks. In this case the 4AD versions are far better, and of course th
re is the
dance version of "Scum", the non-album track (although I am unaware of any other
versions).
I suppose I bought these EPs first because I see the demise of vinyl in the mail
order
catalogue on the increase. I had ordered the Official Colourbox World Cup Theme 
"
(just hoping - I knew it was deleted), but they weren't joshing this time. Neith
r with "A Day"
which I was just lucky elsewhere. When I was in the UK in 1991, I ordered this 1
" from
The Pineapple in Leicester, and they couldn't even get it back then. Although th
y got me
Big Sex EP on vinyl.

Also received: Out Of The Trees, Extractions, Drunk on the Pope's Blood, Song to
the Siren, Pump Up The Volume. And (joy, glee) Big Decision 12" (TPE) which I th
ught I
would never get. This lot I've listened to - all I left is Chaos for the convert
d - Creaming
Jesus. (What a selection - Dif Juz to C J?)

Enough of my ramblings,
Just glad to have filled a few gaps in the collection.......
Chris


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:31:33 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: French mag w/avam cd


>I emailed a friend of mine to pick up the french magazine with the red
>cardboard cover copy of avam.  Couldn't find it.  Could someone please
>send more details, or this some sneaky rumor (aaaahahhhh!).
>
>Alex

The French AVAM CD, cat# VISA 3476, in the adapted card sleeve,was issued
about a year ago and originally given away at FNAC stores when purchasing a
4AD CD. I assume either 'Magic' or 'Les Inrockuptibilles' (have to check
that) gave it away as well, to new subscribers or something, but to my
knowledge it was never available WITH one of those mag's.
And to make you feel even more uncomfortable: FNAC also gave away a Lisa
Gerrard CD, 'Deux Titres Live', cat# VISA 3558, some time last year...

Frank

+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:26:13 EST
From: "Matthew A. Neimark" (mattn@MIT.EDU)
Subject: Bob Hund rules!


>Have you ever heard the swedish popgroup Bob Hund?
>They are THE greatest!

Why? Are you (in) the band?

-----------
Matt Neimark                      (617)225-7450
143 Albany St.
Cambridge, Ma 02139


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 04:03:13 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: OMD OMD OMD?


A different strain for this list (but nice and refreshing!)

The first LP - Orchestral Manouvres with Electricity and Messages - Brill
Organisation - Enola Gay - Dark and Depressing (esp sealand)
Architecture and Morality - Joan of Arc, Maid Of Orleans, Souvenir
Dazzle Ships - Genetic Engineering, Telegraph and all those ABC 123 speak and
spell songs
Junk Culture - Locomotion, Tesla Girls etc.

After this a bit of a downhill although La Femme accident wasn't too bad.
The happy cheerful shit was from breakfast club soundtracks, or pretty in pink.

I have to concur that Architecture and Morality was one of the best Newro / Elec
ro LPs
that I enjoyed of the 80's era.

"Oh my God, what have we done this time?..." - OMD
Chris


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:27:12 -0800
From: Super 31 (super31@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Info on Martinis?


the martinis are local (Los Angeles) and I don't think they are
really signed... they are playing too many shows at "industry"
hang-outs to be signed.

its joey santiago, dave lovering, and joey santiago's wife
on vocals. they have a song on the Empire Records soundtrack.

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:35:08 +0100
From: Pascal Berest (berest@ARIANE.FAST.U-PSUD.FR)
Subject: Re: bootlegs


>><<<<<<<<<<which belly and breeders do you have?????
>jeanna

        Belly

        the black session, 08/01/93             fm0     50
        nantes, cargo melquiad=E8s, 19/06/93      au0     75
        the black session, 07/03/95             fm0     45

        The Breeders

        black session, 12/10/93                 fm0     55
        nantes, l'escall, 11/05/94              au0     70


Also available to trade with me:

The Adventure Babies  //  Frank Black  //  The Boo Radleys  //  The
Catchers  //  The Cranberries  //  Dead Can Dance  //  Dinosaur Jr  //  The
Divine Comedy  //  The Frank And Walters  //  Gallondrunk  //  Grant Lee
Buffalo  //  Gumball  //  Half Japanese  //  The House Of Love  //
Inspiral Carpets  //  James  //  The Jesus & Mary Chain  //  Chris Knox  //
La=EFka  //  Lush  //  Magnapop  //  Mazzy Star  //  Mercury Rev  //
Morphine  //  My Life Story  //  Ned's Atomic Dustbin  //  The Pale Saints
//  The Pastels  //  Pavement  //  Pixies  //  Pram  //  Pulp  //  Radio
Head  //  Ride  //  Sebadoh  //  Sharkboy  //  Sidi Bou Sa=EFd  //  Sleeper
//  The Smashing Pumpkins  //  Smog  //  Sonic Youth  //  Spain  //
Stereolab  //  Suede  //  The Sundays  //  Supergrass  //  Teenage Fan Club
//  That Petrol Emotion  //  The Tindersticks  //  22 Pistepirkko  //  The
Wedding Present  //  Yo La Tengo

Send me your list to:

berest@ariane.fast.u-psud.fr

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 09:22:08 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Info on Martinis?


>A friend of mine e-mailed me wondering about a band he just heard of called
>the Martinis.  Evidently David Lovering and Joey Santiago from the Pixies
>are in the band.

Yes, they're a local LA band and I've seen them once.
Didn't much care for them, though, as they sounded
completely generic. I think it's Joey's wife on vocals.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:11:10 -0500
From: Matt Matuga (mesh@KIVA.NET)
Subject: Re: What if Lush.....


i dont think miki and meriel sound anything alike!! mereiel has a much
deeper sounding voice ,almost man-like at times...miki of course has the
high end voice....it would be interesting to hear what lush would have
sounded like now with meriel still in....emma writes most of the stuff
nowadays so i dont think they would sound a LOT different, but you never
know...
--matt

On Thu, 29 Feb 1996 sten@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> *** Mail to starlust sent in by sten@ix.netcom.com (Scott, Mari & Brian ) ***
>
>     Before I start I would just like to say that you liked Lush's
> "Gala" then you should get Pale Saints "in ribbons", awesome CD! I just
> got it at music trader. God bless them!
>
> here's some questions to ponder.......
>
>     What if Merial never left lush? (pretend her boyfriend at the time
> died, so they have no reason to boot her out)
>
>     Do you think they would be better or worse?
>     Do you think they would have even gotten signed?
>     Would the have risen to promenence (fame)?
>     Would they have done that "airy fariey thing" on Spooky?
>     Or just stayed punky, like they're doing now?
>
> I don't think that they would sound too diffrent because Miki and
> Merial almost exactly sound exactly alike. But I don't think they would
> have ever made Spooky.
>
> One more question, when did they throw Barham out?
>
>
>                                   Opinions please,
>                                             Brian
>

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:01:46 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: E.S.P. "Continent" / Time Stereo question


>> >it...  I hope to snag the Perd. Plastics version too...
>> apparently you all missed this when i posted it a week ago.  you can
>> mailorder them from the record collector.  they have a few copies now.  it
>
>The Perdition Plastics or the Karina Square issue?

the karina square issue.  the last time i talked to davin (a couple of weeks
ago), he said the pp version would be another month or two, though i'm sure
they'll have the perdition version once it comes out.

>
>> cost me $22 and took four days.  telephone is 810-473-8350.  i used a
>> mastercard, but i think they take other things.  my case was smashed to
>
>Is the Record Collector taking credit card by phone now for orders?  What
>about for the Time Stereo stuff?

the record collector takes cc by phone, but davin handles time stereo
himself, so he takes cash/check (payable to the record collector). . .i
imagine it makes his recordkeeping easier. . .

>
>> do you have the list with the t-shirt, alice cooper tribute, etc?  that's
>> the latest one i got, and i just got a package in the mail the other day.
>> i'd just call them and ask, if i were you.  they're super nice.
>
>Yeah, I got that list... but wasn't there a Princess Dragon Mom video too
>(not on the list), and a few other things...
>
the pdm video (i think) is on the list i have.  i'll check when i'm not so
lazy/hungry and get back to y'all.

BiZ


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:48:57 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: catalogue deletion Q


I remember a post a while back stating that someone had a list of deletions
that 4AD had sent them - mainly a lot of vinyl.  However, I recall that one
of the v23 t-shirts was deleted.  Which of the two was it?  I'd like to
order one, but ordering a shirt that is no longer made probably won't do me
much good.

Thanks,
Jake

I'm reeeeeeeeeaaaall bitter about the SF cindYtalk shows being cancelled...

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:01:46 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: E.S.P. "Continent" / Time Stereo question


>> >it...  I hope to snag the Perd. Plastics version too...
>> apparently you all missed this when i posted it a week ago.  you can
>> mailorder them from the record collector.  they have a few copies now.  it
>
>The Perdition Plastics or the Karina Square issue?

the karina square issue.  the last time i talked to davin (a couple of weeks
ago), he said the pp version would be another month or two, though i'm sure
they'll have the perdition version once it comes out.

>
>> cost me $22 and took four days.  telephone is 810-473-8350.  i used a
>> mastercard, but i think they take other things.  my case was smashed to
>
>Is the Record Collector taking credit card by phone now for orders?  What
>about for the Time Stereo stuff?

the record collector takes cc by phone, but davin handles time stereo
himself, so he takes cash/check (payable to the record collector). . .i
imagine it makes his recordkeeping easier. . .

>
>> do you have the list with the t-shirt, alice cooper tribute, etc?  that's
>> the latest one i got, and i just got a package in the mail the other day.
>> i'd just call them and ask, if i were you.  they're super nice.
>
>Yeah, I got that list... but wasn't there a Princess Dragon Mom video too
>(not on the list), and a few other things...
>
the pdm video (i think) is on the list i have.  i'll check when i'm not so
lazy/hungry and get back to y'all.

BiZ


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:42:17 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: another astronomical event alert


As another public service announcement from a soon-to-be
unemployed astronomer moonlighting as a record label owner,
I'd like to tell you all about potentially the brightest
comet to come around since Comet West in 1976. It's
called Comet Hyakutake after the Japanese astronomer who
discovered this new comet exactly one month ago. It's orbit
will bring it very close to earth in the coming weeks,
and it will steadily brighten as it climbs higher and higher
in the late evening sky for northern hemisphere observers.
It's predicted to be an easy naked eye target, and may even
be detected visually this weekend. At its brightest around
March 26, it should be easily visible even from big cities
(but be sure to go to a dark site anyway!). I'm planning a trip
to the desert, which anyone in the area is welcome to join.

More detailed information is to be found in the April issue
of Sky and Telescope (available at all good newsstands)
and at the following website:

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:32:53 -0500
From: Jeffrey Timothy Jacob (tjacob@EMORY.EDU)
Subject: Tortoise reviewed


By
Sean Moore
Creative Loafing
Atlanta, GA
3/2/96


In his recent work with Jim O'Rourke

and Gastr del Sol, Tortoise drummer/"recorder"/mixer John McIntire has

pursued an abstruse muse whose reference points are often elliptical and

enigmatic, whereas the instrumental mise-en-scene of his Chicago quintet's

records -- millions now living being the third -- vividly connects with the

impressionistic imagery-flow of memory and dream-state common to most.

Within the band's wistful and seductive sonic prisms, the familiar and

the alien intertwine -- such as a martial snare drum whose identity is

disguised by a cloak of warm static or the amorphous blips of a

subterranean moog curling around an answering-machine recording of a

child's birthday gift report -- all of which

reveal an evocative essence which is profoundly beautiful and, in the

end, life affirming.  Laboring anonymously while propagating The Vibration

over The Word, Tortoise liquefies the autocratic dominion of front-man/

vocalist favoring contrapuntal bass guitars, vintage electric keyboards

(including prototype samplers), vibraphones/marimbas, and the taut rhythmic

infrastructure provided by McIntire.  Rather than ignore the crackling

reality that surrounds them, theyaccept the limitations of "notes" and

"instruments" within the digitally-coded noise of the megalopolis, though

they refuse to abandon them entirely, crisscrossing the intrinsic qualities

of these aging tools with their mutation into input devices supplying raw

material for post-performance alchemy.  Galvanized by electronica, dub,

prog-rock's lighter moments, Hank Shocklee, and soundtrack savant Bernard

Hermann, the band perpetually shifts emphasis and drops oddities in and out

of the mix in an egalitarian give and take in which

nothing is superfluous and all is elastic.  Like a masked scientist

decimating Braille postcards, the bands freedom from literal expression

invigorates the visual possibilities of painterly sound, as evocative song

titles --"Dear Grandma and Grandpa", "Along the Banks of Rivers," etc. --

become picture frames for snapshots that are ever-so-lightly out of focus

but nonetheless identifiable.






+++++++++++++++++++++
T i m  J a c o b
Department of Spanish
Emory University
+++++++++++++++++++++

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:40:02 +0100
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Caroline Lavelle


Anyone heard of this Cellist who just released her first CD called "spirit" I
read a great review (LA Weekly tsst tsst). I also heard one song. Sounds
really good. Very TMC-ish. It is supposedly produced by William Orbit.
Any comments???

-nb-

********
i fancied you'd return the way you said,
but i grow old and forget your name.
(i think i made you up inside my head.)
(S. Plath)


Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 00:40:05 +0100
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: MINTY : Very slow response here... Sorry if it's already been

              answered.

>Emiel asked:
>
>>Three elephants and a guy with some
>>kind of cap round his neck (like the one they like to put on sick cats and
>>gogs) and with a dammaged (burned) vinyl record in his hand. And ofcourse
>>some typography and a logo. Who is this man? Is it Minty?
>
>Yeah that's Minty. He was wearing that disgusting brown suit at the opening
>too. He seems like a really decent sort of bloke - but was exceedingly
>pissed when I spoke to him later on. He said Vaughan calls him Minty and
>his girlfriend calls him Moo - he doesn't like his real name. He's a book
>jacket designer in London somewhere.
>
>Andie
>
>

So you've been there? I've missed your reports. How come?
Do you think it's worthwile, or not?

Is there any merchandise available? And have you seen the limited
edition of This Rimy River?

Questions enough.

I'll be going 29 march, so I'll find out myself. But I'm just soo
curious.

Cheers,

Huite


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:02:26 -0500
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: v23 T sirts


Jake said:

>I remember a post a while back stating that someone had a list of deletions
>that 4AD had sent them - mainly a lot of vinyl.  However, I recall that one
>of the v23 t-shirts was deleted.  Which of the two was it?  I'd like to
>order one, but ordering a shirt that is no longer made probably won't do me
>much good.

There is now a new v23 t shirt available at the Minty exhibition. It's got
the same bucket with logo on it as the ltd edition book slip jacket has on
it. They're available in green or blue I think (logo in white). Price 8
quid.

Andie

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:07:48 -0500
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Is Minty...?


>So you've been there?

Yeah.

>I've missed your reports. How come?

Thought someone else would have done one by now. And I'm sure I'd get
slagged by the likes of e for my reviewing style if I posted one. I'm
pretty busy too...

>Do you think it's worthwile, or not?

Ish. Not much new stuff - but a couple of gems. Yes, it's worth it IMHO.

>Is there any merchandise available?

Yes. Posters (=A33). ThisRR (normal). Tshirts (=A38). Double sided newsprint
paper poster thingmy (monochrome one side, 5 plate on the other) with
article by Rick Poynor (=A33).

Think that's it.

>And have you seen the limited
>edition of This Rimy River?

Yes.

>Questions enough.

Okay?

>I'll be going 29 march, so I'll find out myself. But I'm just soo
>curious.

Doesn't it finish then?

Andie

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:22:16 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Shaving The Pavement (info?)


Just wondering if anyone has any current ifo as far as confirmed U.S. dates
and/or venues for this most wonderful trio tour.

~best regards...
-blubelknol@aol.com


Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:22:17 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Lush promo e.p.


Did anyone else manage to get in on this courtesy of the 4AD Hotline????

They were giving away 25 of the little devils, I left a message for one, and
a week later it is now in my hands...

wonderful little thing it is...
the CD is the typical 4AD/reprise orange-colored CD with the familiar 300 500
logo with the circle around it (what does this mean anyway???).

no jewel case cover, but the rear insert has graphics - minimal mind you,
just the *new* style lush logo in orange/blue/white blown up to cover the
whole rear insert.

6 tracks..
1.Last Night (Latent Power Mix) 5:23
2.Undertow (spooky Remix) 9:12
3. Last Night (Darkest Hour Mix) 4:57
4. Lovelife (Suga Bullit Remix) 8:15
5. Last Night (Hexadecimal Dub Mix) 6:31
6. Ladykillers (Demo/Ruff Mix '95) 3:14

of course 2 were originally from Split... which makes this CD a little
interesting.

I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, just wondering if there was
anyone else on the list who got in on the deal.

I did manage to pick up a promo copy of Lovelife (the one in the white plain
cardboard sleeve with Lush sticker on it)... and found it quite
enjoyable...perhaps not as much as Gala, but still very enjoyable.

well, gots to go...i have a new CD to listen to...

~~~~
blubelknol@aol.com

p.s. if anyone at 4AD is reading this, thanks!

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:28:42 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: From A to Z


Last month was a busy one for me in picking up cd=B4s.=20

On my trip to Mexico City i got the following:

Colourbox -Colourbox ($9 Import). It wasn=B4t what i expected. The overall
sound of it is pretty normal. Guess back in 85 it must=B4ve sounded very
'different' from the rest of the stuff going on.  FOR TRADE

Lisa Gerrard - The Mirror Pool ($15). I still prefer her work with B. Perry,
but much of this disc is pretty amazing! Her vocals, like always are
somthing out of this world.

TWP - Bird Wood Cage ($12 Import). It=B4s a darker sound form what i=B4m=
 used
from TWP (i started with Queer), but it is great music. Particulary Kansas,
Raintime, Swing Like A Baby, Shut that door, The wedding & The great leveler
are TERRIFIC TRACKS!

Pixies - Doolitle ($13). My FIRST Pixies purchase and I LOVED IT! What=B4s
next for me to get form them? Please give me your opinions!

Insides- Euphoria ($16 GULP!). Brilliant! I have to thank Jens for his
accurate review: 'Euphoria is pure joy...' Thanks!

Indochine- Radio Indochine ($12 Import). Live recording form some of
Indochine=B4s best songs. They are, along with Ettienne Daho, the best=
 things
to come out form France. I highly reccomend this disc or, if you want to
start with something more general, try 'The Birthday Album', their greatest
hits form 81-91.=20

Stone Roses - The Complete Stone Roses ($12 Import). Compilation that
includes all the singles released minus (thank god!) the Second Coming
releases. Great and nostalgic stuff. Why did they came up with such a crap
as Second Coming?

Volume 15 ($19.) I have to admit, most of the disc is a complete waste of
digital space. Someone once posted that getting this Cd for the CT CIrcling
Girl was a mistake... i have to disagree. The track is one of the Twins=B4
best songs yet! It had all the  elements that were missing in some tracks
from Four Calendar Cafe.
Also the tracks from Scheer & State of Grace (has anyone heard more from
them?) are very good.

BTW, did you know that PUR means, in French, pure, unblemished?

sorry for the long message!

Pepe