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Subject: music directors?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:35:22 -0500
From: Lesley Barnett (barnettl@DICKINSON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Apologies and Giant Sand
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 01:42:56 -0600
From: mike lawyer (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 02:04:01 -0500
From: Michael Hauben (hauben@CS.COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Apologies and Giant Sand
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 02:59:43 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: Re: Volkswagen Commercials
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:45:50 -0500
From: the Trelesta Guardian (winter.solstice@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Volkswagen Commercials
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:40:37 -0600
From: "Steven S. Fang" (Meursault@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: First His Name Is Alive 7"-Limited to 500!!!
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:53:42 -0500
From: noisehopper (ebn@umd.umich.edu)
Subject: LUSH and Folksvagens
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:50:21 EST
From: "Matthew A. Neimark" (mattn@MIT.EDU)
Subject: Re: LUSH and Folksvagens
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:54:58 -0500
From: "John, Jacci, and Madison" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: LUSH and Folksvagens
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:27:00 CST
From: Lysa Bellott (dijitxs@MAILHOST.ACCESSCOM.NET)
Subject: Re: LUSH and Folksvagens
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:10:50 -0500
From: Deanna Phillips (dp@IGLOU.COM)
Subject: Re: LUSH and Folksvagens
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:19:38 -0500
From: MiloV@AOL.COM
Subject: all-encompassing reply
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:01:18 -0500
From: Sargent David Edward (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: adventures in nowhere
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:25:42 -0500
From: Sargent David Edward (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: Re: LUSH and Folksvagens
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:24:52 -0600
From: Me (neitzl@TEZCAT.COM)

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:35:22 -0500
From: Lesley Barnett (barnettl@DICKINSON.EDU)
Subject: music directors?


is there anyone else on the list that are mds at their college station?
i was just curious to see if anyone else talks to matt or rich...
                                                lesley

Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 01:42:56 -0600
From: mike lawyer (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Apologies and Giant Sand


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  Overall consider yourself cool for
>appreciating them, because I still don't own an album by them.  I just see
>them live once in blue desert moon (and an occasional L.A. one too).

Does that Make me cool for Finding a copy of their Center Of The Universe
album in the 2nd hand store (I love that Place) and listining to it non
stop. (Milkshake girl is playing currently) Is a More Major deal than a 7"
coming through with subpop?


[F{ND}!]


Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 02:04:01 -0500
From: Michael Hauben (hauben@CS.COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...


 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, a bear of very little brain wrote:

> ...everyone who is logged in from the state of Michigan?
>
> I'm just curious as to know what part of the list membership hails from the
> mitten-shaped state, which has recently become the pulsating center of the
> universe (at least for yours truly).  Perhaps it's all this talk of
> HNIA/Ohio/jj that's got me wondering.
>

Wow - to think I didn't have a clue of the development of techno
while growing up 10 minutes from downtown Detroit, and then
living in NYC while in College and every since during the
developing NoiseCapital of the world. I dunno, but I hope you're
all loving it there. :) I grew up in downtown Detroit, Dearborn
and Dearborn Heights from age 7 to 18...in any case sorry for
continuing this thread. [part of the reason was not owning my own
car, and not having friends who *dared* go into the city - pity.]
(And yes, my parents and I would take the 30 min car trip down to
A^2 for culture.)

In any case, slight more list related - I went to the Dub
Syndicate date here in NYC and it was SLAMMING. (I posted the
tour dates to the list.) Extremely spacey stuff. Nit very 4adish,
but GOOD music - with some sequencing (backbackbackground vocals
and some effects) but with live guitar, drums, bass, keyboards,
etc etc. All on the first tour of the US too. :)

G'night all,

/Michael - sentinel

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Michael Hauben@columbia.edu     Teachers College Dept. of Communications
Amateur Computerist Newsletter  http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/acn/
WWW Music Index                 http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/music/

Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 02:59:43 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: Re: Apologies and Giant Sand


giant sand are great. Glum is probably their best effort yet. plus, they
are high up on Lisa Germano's list of fave bands.


Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:45:50 -0500
From: the Trelesta Guardian (winter.solstice@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Subject: Re: Volkswagen Commercials


Ivy's not on 4ad, but they *should* be..  ;)

>Did anyone notice (and like) some of the other songs/artists featured in
>the rest of the series, such as Psychic TV, Moonpools and Catepillars, and
>Ivy?

>Anyhow, that's how I discovered Ivy and the song "Beautiful."  I've bought
>what I believe is their only full-album release, Realistic.  Does anyone
>have their other EP releases?  If so, how do they compare to the material
>on Realistic?

Ivy is one of those bands that makes you realize light-and-fluffy can often
be interchanged with subtle lyrics and guitar effects. I love realistic, it
was one of my favorite (indie) releases from early '95. There's a couple
other EPs out, most notably the first single they released ("Get Enough"
from Realistic) and this one called "I Hate December" which is just as good
as the album for the three or four songs that are on it.

Ivy's really in touch with their fans, too. Check out "the Ivy Vine" (the
official home page) at:

        http://www.cis.drexel.edu/ivy/

or e-mail the mailing list at:

        TheIvyVine@aol.com

the home page even has an .au file of the band saying "Welcome to the IVY VINE!"

drew

Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:40:37 -0600
From: "Steven S. Fang" (Meursault@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Volkswagen Commercials


Since someone mentioned Lush and the Volkswagen commercials ...

Did anyone notice (and like) some of the other songs/artists featured in
the rest of the series, such as Psychic TV, Moonpools and Catepillars, and
Ivy?

Most specifically, I'd like to talk about Ivy.  After hearing one of the
commercials, I was somehow compelled to dial 1-800-DRIVE-VW.  To my
surpirse, they were actually more than glad to talk to me about the music
in their commercials (and get my address so that they could send me some
propaganda ... but hey, it was free).

Anyhow, that's how I discovered Ivy and the song "Beautiful."  I've bought
what I believe is their only full-album release, Realistic.  Does anyone
have their other EP releases?  If so, how do they compare to the material
on Realistic?


(Oh ... It's not assuming too much to think that Ivy emcompassess elements
of "that 4AD sound," right?  If so, apologies for the disruption.)

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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 02:50:17 -0800
From: noiseprincess (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: yeah, that 7" from defevery people...


  as posted on alt.music.4ad by my noisehopping pal:

From: noisehopper (ebn@umd.umich.edu)
Subject: First His Name Is Alive 7"-Limited to 500!!!

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:53:42 -0500 For those who have already placed an order with the Shaolin Temple and for those who haven't heard here is an update on the HNIA 7" we are releasing. The mastering is being started as I write this and the art is being worked on also. The first initial financial payments have been made and we are only a few short weeks away from having the records in hand to be made available to all of you out there who are serious 4AD band collectors or Warren Defever followers. So if you have already placed an order with us, we will be contacting you soon regarding when you can expect the release at your front door, and if you haven't placed an order - HURRY! This first HNIA 7" is limited to 500 (and orders are being taken very quickly). Due to the limited amount these will not be available for long. Featuring the Little Princess on the B-side, those who like that should also look for the Shaolin Temple Noise Trilogy to be released after the HNIA 7". Featuring a member of Princess Dragon-Mom doing his unusual recordings, this trilogy will feature: Master Po, grasshopper and the Little Princess. Three one-sided, clear 7"s with hand screened B-sides limited to 300 (100 of each). And now out for you serious Defever fans, the Jennifer Wolski/ESP Beetles split 7" can be ordered through Revolver Records or by writing to this address or the address below. Thanks for your continued support!! grasshopper of the Shaolin Temple ***************************************************************************** The deadliest of weapons created by the Shaolin to attack the nervous system and break down all willpower rendering the victim stupid. The first sonic disease experiment. We are <> For a free catalog of releases and other tasty noisy bits write to: Shaolin Temple 2232 Nalone Wixom, Michigan 48393 ******************************************************************************

Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:50:21 EST
From: "Matthew A. Neimark" (mattn@MIT.EDU)
Subject: LUSH and Folksvagens


It's amazing how music originally on the fringes slowly leaks into
the mainstream.

I recognize most of the bands in these commercials except for one
that interests me.  It's a guy singing "Are you free are you really
free, are you are you are you are you really free."  Then it sounds
like the beach boys.  The guys voice sounds a bit like Robyn Hitchcock.

Can anybody identify this one for me?

On a slightly different note, who dreams great songs only to wake
up the next morning not quite remembering what they sounded like?
I do and it's quite frusterating.

-----------
Matt Neimark                      (617)225-7450
143 Albany St.
Cambridge, Ma 02139


Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:54:58 -0500
From: "John, Jacci, and Madison" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: LUSH and Folksvagens


>It's amazing how music originally on the fringes slowly leaks into
>the mainstream.
>
>I recognize most of the bands in these commercials except for one
>that interests me.  It's a guy singing "Are you free are you really
>free, are you are you are you are you really free."  Then it sounds
>like the beach boys.  The guys voice sounds a bit like Robyn Hitchcock.
>
>Can anybody identify this one for me?

I always thought it was some Love & Rockets song from one of their last 2
albums (the only 2 I don't have).


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              http://web.syr.edu/~jojones

QUOTE OF THE MONTH:
When explaining themselves, most people take you from point A to B.
Tori's method is to stand on point B, waving her arms, saying, "Hey! Can
you guess how I got here?"  -Gavin Edwards, on Tori Amos.
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:27:00 CST
From: Lysa Bellott (dijitxs@MAILHOST.ACCESSCOM.NET)
Subject: Re: LUSH and Folksvagens


ON sunday Feb 25 you wrote:

>I recognize most of the bands in these commercials except for one
>that interests me.  It's a guy singing "Are you free are you really
>free, are you are you are you are you really free."  Then it sounds
>like the beach boys.  The guys voice sounds a bit like Robyn Hitchcock.
>
>Can anybody identify this one for me?



I believe the voice belongs to Genesis P-Orridge of Psychic TV/Throbbing
Gristle fame.

Lysa


Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:10:50 -0500
From: Deanna Phillips (dp@IGLOU.COM)
Subject: Re: LUSH and Folksvagens


On Sun, 25 Feb 1996, Lysa Bellott wrote:
>
> I believe the voice belongs to Genesis P-Orridge of Psychic TV/Throbbing
> Gristle fame.
>

Yes, it is PTV doing the song Roman P. Funny someone said it sounded like
Beach Boys, Psychic TV did a cover of Good Vibrations in the same
recording session ...

deanna
dp@iglou.com

Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:19:38 -0500
From: MiloV@AOL.COM now is now the time to be bringing this up, and I seem to remember this idea kicked around a little before, but, wouldn't it be great to have a seperate 4AD selling / trading list (like the indiepop trading list). When I read through the posts I skip over the trades and always plan to go back and read them later, but seldom do. I also have some stuff that I would be interested in trading and/or stuff I'm looking for, but I don't imagine EVERYONE is interested in hearing it on the discussion list. I got to thinking about this while reading a copy of Goldmine magazine because I found that some dealers have entire sections of their ads devoted to, generally, overpriced 4AD stuff. (i.e. Liliput for US$300) I thought there were only a couple of 4AD compleatist collectors, but it would appear that it's pretty popular as a collectible. Does anyone have any thoughts on this, good or bad? Later, James For in these post-absolutist days it is better to build upon the shifting sands than the rock which will confound you on the day it shatters.

Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:01:18 -0500
From: Sargent David Edward (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: all-encompassing reply


i''''m  going to try to reply to a number of things in this one post so
as not to make you delete a bunch of little posts. post-its.
>first of all, little caesars makes the best commercials.
>let me go on the record as saying that ivy (us) bore me to death. yeah,
yeah, it's pretty and pleasant, but utterly boring in my objectively
correct opinion :) the ivy you *should* check out is from uk and on sarah
records. good luck finding any of their stuff.
>i'm listening to the new bel canto right now. some good, some bad, some
great, some crap. sounds like their record producer is used to working
with yanni or something.
>ok, that wasn't a reply, i just wanted to say something about it. sorry.
>of course 25cents isn't much to pay for this list, but i think there is
another principle that none of us want to admit to; that these lists are
about the use of the net to freely disseminate information, etc. at least
as far as i know.....
>yes, i'm a music director and get to talk to rich and matt and have them
send my station import things. lucky me.
>now, i'm not going to get into a critique of a label like projekt but i
will tell you that i think their policies are crap. dig this, they refuse
to service college radio. do they expect everyone to just order their
stuff sound unheard? sure they have those little descriptions about
albums in adverts and catalogs, but after a while they all sound the
same. i really hate the business aspect of music. i could
go on but i get the feeling that noone is reading this anyway.....
>liquorice; sorry, where are the high spots?
>tha's all. if you;ve read this far, you win a date with me!
dave (desarg@mail.wm.edu)


Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:25:42 -0500
From: Sargent David Edward (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: adventures in nowhere


well, i did a little record shopping this weekend and this is what i
didn't buy; a rain parade lp with kendra smith on one track, can't
remember the name, of course, two a.r.kane singles that aren't on 4ad,
the liae vid for $25 and a cocteu twins boot for $25 (pearly pink and
white). if anyone wants i'll pick them up for you next time i go to these
record stores (god knows when). i don't think any of these are
particularly rare, but if you can't find them i can get them for you.
here's what i didn't find: the new cocteau eps. i thught they were
supposed to come out last tues.???? here's what i did get (no heckling,
please) : earwig ep, wedding present "it's a gas" ep, siouxsie bootleg,
joy of life double cd on hyperium (1 of 500, ooooooh), kendra smith "16
ways..." cd for free (promo), and a modern english lp (bad 106 or
thereabouts, its' the one with 16 days and the cool assed cover with
fishes and stuff) it was still sealed!.
reply personally if you want any of the aforementioned items.
dave (desarg@mail.wm.edu)


Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:24:52 -0600
From: Me (neitzl@TEZCAT.COM)
Subject: Re: LUSH and Folksvagens


At 03:50 PM 2/25/96 EST, you wrote:
>It's amazing how music originally on the fringes slowly leaks into
>the mainstream.
>
>I recognize most of the bands in these commercials except for one
>that interests me.  It's a guy singing "Are you free are you really
>free, are you are you are you are you really free."  Then it sounds
>like the beach boys.  The guys voice sounds a bit like Robyn Hitchcock.


This would be psychic tv, the song Roman P....a song about roman polanski, i
think....good songs, but rather strange group!

>Can anybody identify this one for me?
>
>On a slightly different note, who dreams great songs only to wake
>up the next morning not quite remembering what they sounded like?
>I do and it's quite frusterating.
>
>-----------
>Matt Neimark                      (617)225-7450
>143 Albany St.
>Cambridge, Ma 02139
>
>

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