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Subject: Re: "Hey Hey Hey I've got it! Warren DeFEVER!!!!!!"
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 04:20:37 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: More Opinions requested
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:12:58 -0500
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:01:33 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Information about RHP's "Ocean Beach"
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:51:51 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:57:01 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:33:30 -0500
From: Lesley Barnett (barnettl@DICKINSON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:03:56 -0700
From: sean devine (kober@GAS.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: IRC efnet #4AD
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:35:10 -0800
From: kenneth (nneth@CONNECTUS.COM)
Subject: the new rachel's
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 01:19:05 -0500
From: TS61822@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 03:04:11 -0500
From: Sandeep Vijan (svijan@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: the new rachel's
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 01:59:53 -0600
From: Sung Shim (foss@WWA.COM)
Subject: Listies in LA
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:06:25 PST
From: Ricardo Montalban (bwilliam@FOGELSON.CSF.EDU)
Subject: Re: Projekt Bashing
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:12:56 -0800
From: "Jose A. Garcia Triana Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: LUSH and volkswagons
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:18:44 EST
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Warren Defever: what's he do
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:59:07 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: (idm) Hot Poop from WARP ...
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:32:08 +0000
From: Mixmaster Morris (morris@space.demon.co.uk)
Subject: Re: Projekt Bashing
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 05:10:24 -0600
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Projekt Bashing
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:14:31 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: face the strange
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:54:32 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: LUSH and volkswagons
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:13:12 -0500
From: copefiend (copefiend@USA.PIPELINE.COM)
Subject: For Sale (various 4AD and others)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:14:24 -0800
From: "Reality's email account" (mcclure@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:16:03 -0500
From: eric burden (burden@ENGIN.UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 12:22:13 -0500
From: Steven Holmes (sbholmes@ALPHA.DELTA.EDU)
Subject: LUSH's volkswagons, actually those single covers
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 07:54:05 -0800
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses in LA 2-20-95 (I)
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:35:32 GMT
From: "K. Bruner" (napalm@UGCS.CALTECH.EDU)
Subject: random 4AD notes
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 13:03:21 -0500
From: "oren, mefus a chedno" (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: face the strange
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 10:49:01 -0800
From: Super 31 (super31@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Listies in LA
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:04:03 +0100
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Is Michael Mahan on this list?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 12:37:23 -0600
From: Holly Emmer (hemmer@RRGROUP.COM)
Subject: Re: Moving the 4AD List?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 10:47:23 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Cindytalk - Cleveland Show Review.
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 10:47:09 -0800
From: Alfred Douglas, R684863S@edinboro.edu
Subject: not from ann arbor
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:18:07 -0600
From: zelzah (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Re: not from ann arbor
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:00:35 -0800
From: Paul (pauld@BEST.COM)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:02:11 -0500
From: Jennifer Jamieson (Rmitchel5@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: LUSH and volkswagons
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:02:36 -0500
From: Jennifer Jamieson (Rmitchel5@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: face the strange
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:27:58 -0600
From: "Michael C. Lawyer" (lawmic@homer.acs.bethel.edu)
Subject: Apologies and Giant Sand
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:45:29 -0600
From: "Michael C. Lawyer" (lawmic@HOMER.ACS.BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: LUSH and volkswagons
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:05:42 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: Apologies and Giant Sand
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:33:14 -0700
From: Brett Boyd (BOYDB@VAX4.CSMC.EDU)

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 04:20:37 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: "Hey Hey Hey I've got it! Warren DeFEVER!!!!!!"


>>...and free corn too (the newest 4AD sampler)!!!

>When did this come out? What=B4s the track listing? Tell me! Tell me!

>Pepe

Side 1:

1. You
2. Have
3. Missed
4. The
5. Point
6. Here.

Side 2:

7. But
8. You
9. Have
10. Missed
11. Nothing
12. Nevertheless

And the best part of this thing is, is that it will be worth sweet FA in 2009 du

to its non-existance.

Chris at the information station

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:12:58 -0500
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: More Opinions requested


>I already asked about both Liquorice and Air Miami, how about Tarnation? Is
>that a recommended album?

It all depends on what *you* like.  On this list it was dubbed as one of the
best AND one of the worst releases of the year.  I would of voted it (if I
did) as one of the best of the 4AD lot of '95.  If you like a mild to
moderate country flavor in your song, then you'll probably go for it.  Paula
Frazier's voice makes the album for me.  She has the same vocal range of a
certain Liz, but with styles that differ Greatly (note capital "G").  Some
songs on _Gentle Creatures_ , resemble late '50's country standards due to
Paula's voice with acoustic, electric, and lap steel guitars, and Mr.
Defever's slightly smoky production.  Other songs, most notably the ones in
which Lincoln (the guitarist) does vocals, are not my favorites, but it
doesn't ruin the album for me.

jason

srilank@aol.com


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:01:33 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...


In a message dated 96-02-23 18:09:10 EST, you write:

>> On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, a bear of very little brain wrote:
>>
>> > ...everyone who is logged in from the state of Michigan?
>> >
>>
>>  hi, my name is dan, and im an hniaholic from annarbor michigan
>>
>I as well am from A^2.
>
>aaron
>
>

greetings from down the street in Romulus...

-blubelknol@aol.com

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:51:51 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Information about RHP's "Ocean Beach"


RHP's 'Uncle Joe' is also on that second self-titled disc (the one with
the weeds water n bridge) on the cover.


Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:57:01 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...


though I'm not there at the moment I hail from michigan. Ann Arbor
specifically. I'm expatriated to the east coast to finish my MA
currently. Very strange IMHO that Michigan has become such an epicenter
of muscial activity, and if I find out that Ian Masters was recording
with Warren in Livonia (about fifteen minutes from my house) I will cry.

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:33:30 -0500
From: Lesley Barnett (barnettl@DICKINSON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...


well, i don't know if this really counts......
but i usually go to ann arbor  a lot when i'm home (i'm at school now),
cos i live in toledo and there's nothing to do there....

                                lesley
On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, Heather Elizabeth Phares wrote:

> Ooooh, spooky....I too am from AnnArborama....
>
> heather
>
> On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, aaron thomas spink wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, a bear of very little brain wrote:
> > >
> > > > ...everyone who is logged in from the state of Michigan?
> > > >
> > >
> > >  hi, my name is dan, and im an hniaholic from annarbor michigan
> > >
> > I as well am from A^2.
> >
> > aaron
> >
>

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:03:56 -0700
From: sean devine (kober@GAS.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...


 On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, a bear of very little brain wrote:

> ...everyone who is logged in from the state of Michigan?
>
> I'm just curious as to know what part of the list membership hails from the
> mitten-shaped state, which has recently become the pulsating center of the
> universe (at least for yours truly).  Perhaps it's all this talk of
> HNIA/Ohio/jj that's got me wondering.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> hk
> [pining away in the ever-tropical Texas]
> --
> hk kahng | hk@neosoft.com & farrago@delphi.com
>          | http://www.neosoft.com/~hk/home.htm
>
i am formerly from livonia michigan(born) moved to ypsilanti(oooohhh)and
then to ann arbor. i have been in tucson for the last 8 months doing that
desert thingy.
seanyseansean

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:35:10 -0800
From: kenneth (nneth@CONNECTUS.COM)
Subject: Re: IRC efnet #4AD


On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, Deanna Phillips wrote:

> Has there ever been an active #4AD? Every time I try, I'm the only one there.
>
> deanna

I've found it active once or twice with only a few people joined.  I've
also created the channel numerous times and have had no one else join.
Perhaps more people could try out IRC, eh?

________________________________________________________________

        There is a Hand to turn the time,
        Through thy Glass today be run,
        Till the Light that hath brought the Towers low
        Find the last poor Pret'rite one...
        Till the Riders sleep by ev'ry road,
        All through our crippl'd Zone,
        With a face on ev'ry mountainside,
        And a Soul in ev'ry stone...
________________________________________________________________


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 01:19:05 -0500
From: TS61822@AOL.COM
Subject: the new rachel's


i havent been paying much attention to the list lately so i apologize if this
is old news but

i just purchased the new rachel's cd "music for egon schiele" today which is
the soundtrack to a play and features a much stripped down version of the
former rachel's lineup. i am really quite taken with this cd. in some places
it is very gorecki, in other it sounds like "cornfield" by hnia. the
principal instruments are piano, viola, and cello as well as the occasional
locomotive sample. i cant characterize it as background music for it is a bit
too "alive" in my opinion and certainly does not fall into any simplified
catagory of "gothic" "ambient" or "projekt sounding". the pieces seem
comprehensive as a whole (meaning there is a certain this mortal coil aspect
of a sustained collection of songs that revisits the same themes) but each
song has its own character. it makes me very interested in seeing the play.
the album in my mind is tough to listen to but well worth the reward. i think
it is a very solid effort overall

i understand it is out on inexpensive vinyl as well as in a cd format. the cd
comes pacakged in a similar manner to the last rachel's output and features
some good reproductions of some of schiele's work inside. the back cover
lists mostly what they ate while making the album (3lbs of cheez-its? good
heavens)

any one else have it/like it?

todd sanders

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 03:04:11 -0500
From: Sandeep Vijan (svijan@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...


Add another to the Ann Arbor contingent. Not a bad representation
considering there are only about 400 people on this mailing list.

Sandeep


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 01:59:53 -0600
From: Sung Shim (foss@WWA.COM)
Subject: Re: the new rachel's


At 01:19 AM 2/24/96 -0500, you wrote:
>any one else have it/like it?

     yeah i picked it up on vinyl a few days ago.  i hadn't heard their
prior stuff but i picked it up merely from talk of them by people.  i must
say that i really enjoy it, it flows quite nicely.  i'll probably pick up
their other release sometime this week and check it out.

sung
---
 foss@wwa.com
 http://shoga.wwa.com/~foss/

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:06:25 PST
From: Ricardo Montalban (bwilliam@FOGELSON.CSF.EDU)
Subject: Listies in LA


Greetings,
    I wonder if some of you list members in Los Angeles could direct
me to the finer music stores in the area, as I will be
visiting there soon. Thanks in advance..
    And, you all should check out your fellow listie's Lowlife
wwwebsite (http://www.dhp.com/~ash) as it is quite cool.
    brian
    bwilliam@fogelson.csf.edu

    "I can't believe it, just me and my little knife;
    snip snip
    slice slice.

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:12:56 -0800
From: "Jose A. Garcia Triana Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: Projekt Bashing


Martin Wagner wrote:

> 4AD ACTS I LIKE (once again, to varying degrees): DCD, HNIA, Lisa
> Gerrard, Heidi Berry, Lisa Germano, Throwing Muses, Kristen Hersh solo, Lush.
> (Omitted because they've left the label: RHP, Cocteau Twins, Wolfgang Press.

When did The Wolfgang Press leave 4AD? As far as I know they´re still with
4AD and will release a remix compilation retrospective somewhere on may (this
according to the 4AD hotline)

Pepe (just curious...)

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:18:44 EST
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: LUSH and volkswagons


Ijust wanted to know if I was hearing right...  I've seen a
commercial for the new Volkswagon Passat (or however you spell it)
and I swear that Lush provided the backround vocals.  Has anyone
seen this; or is this old news?

Holly


Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:59:07 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Warren Defever: what's he do


        I've always found HNIA similar to TMC--listen to "Home Is In Your
Head"; with all its segues, interludes, mass quantity of songs,
experimentalism, etc.

                          =>} End CD tyranny. {<=


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:23:28 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: fwd re new black dog stuff YESSS


Yeah, Spanners sucked...but the Plaid ep from last year was great. Expect
total coolness. Anyone know when exactly the album should be out??

 e

---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:32:08 +0000
From: Mixmaster Morris (morris@space.demon.co.uk)
Subject: (idm) Hot Poop from WARP ...


>
>        1996 is going to be WARPs year!
>
>        hot poop no 1 - they just signed the mighty SQUAREPUSHER
>
>        hot poop no 2 - they just receieved an amazing lp from KEN DOWNIE
>aka THE BLACK DOG
>
>        hot poop no 3 - they already have a brill lp from PLAID ...
>
>        maybe they can afford to get online soon?!?
>
>        mixmaster morris
>
>        ps met richard james, richie hawtin et al at the
>Spacetime/GlobComm show .....

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 05:10:24 -0600
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Projekt Bashing


On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Jose A. Garcia Triana Camil wrote:

> When did The Wolfgang Press leave 4AD? As far as I know they=B4re still w=
ith
> 4AD and will release a remix compilation retrospective somewhere on may (=
this
> according to the 4AD hotline)

TWP's departure was announced late last year on this list. It's not=20
uncommon for a=20
greatest hits or retrospective album to come out on a label once the=20
artist has left it. REM's Eponymous, for example, put out by IRS after=20
the band had defected to Warner.

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:14:31 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Projekt Bashing


>
> i agree most of the porjekt stuff I've necountered is a little
> melodramatic and 'over-gothed'.

i'd have to disagree.  my projekt collection is limited to only 4
discs, but i've found their releases to be of the highest standard,
not "over-gothed" in the slightest.  black tape for a blue girl and
soul whirling somewhere create some of the most beautiful and caring
music i've ever heard...lycia's driving and rhythmic sound really
catches me up...and love spirals downwards is, well, ethereal.

> All except Love Spirals Downwards. They
> do that etherial thing, but mostly with overlapped (beautiful) vocals.
> They have two female vocalists and fairly sparse intrumentation, but they
> create these swirling soundscapes that are often too abstract to be
> 'goth' or full of adolescent silliness.

actually, love spirals downwards is two people; ryan lum on
instruments(which i believe are primarily 12 string guitars and
keyboards) and suzanne perry on vocals.

> Their first disc "idylls" is wonderful, though a little overwhelming in
> the swirling ether department at times. Their second disc "Ardor" is
> pretty wonderful and pulls some of their songs together a little tighter.
> It also learns the lesson that sometimes less is more and allows silence
> to work with some of the more luscious bits, very successful imho.
>

i haven't heard "ardor" yet...i hope to get it sometime soon(maybe
when i FINALLY order the new soul whirling somewhere album).  i was
somewhat disappointed with "idylls" when i first listened to it.  it
didn't sound quite as "deep" or "layered" as i expected it to.
however, after listening to it several times, i've really started to
enjoy it.

thanks for listening to my drivel...

jason

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:54:32 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: face the strange


Changes.

Everything I'm involved with is going through some
major changes right now on all fronts: Dewdrops,
personal, professional, academic, relationships,
Elysium, family... Most of it is rather exciting
and will bring improvements to everything involved.
What would concern this list the most is what's going
on with the tiny little Dewdrops thing I run, and most
importantly, when the long awiated next issue #15 will be
finished (not to mention the sleeves for the 7" single
we just released). Pat and I agree that both of these
things will happen within the next month. Then it's
basically all but goodbye to Pat as he starts a family,
with a little one due in May. The anticipated changes this
will bring about for Dewdrops include my bringing two new
people onto our so-called staff, with regular contributions
from several others a possibility. Even with the official turnover
still a ways in the future, I wanted to make note of who
is involved:

Gil Gershman. You've seen his reviews many times on here, he
just became a reviewer for The Big Takeover, and he gets
hives if you mention Blur in his presence (though not me,
I can tell you).

Brant Nelson. Yours truly. Professional astronomer by trade,
amateur astronomer by preference. Beer and single malt scotch
advocate, home brewer, record label owner.

Rodney Rodriguez. Renowned guitarist for Elysium, expert
on all kinds of music, and hamburger chain enthusiast.

If this sounds like a fun family to join, and if you'd
like to get involved in the process of creating a quality
publication, then get in touch with me by email. I certainly
don't have the time or the resources to have a whole ton of
people involved with Dewdrops, but I can see broadening out
the current "two people do absolutely everything" process
just a little, and I'll welcome any sort of ideas and input.

Thanks for caring and reading all this,

Brant

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:13:12 -0500
From: copefiend (copefiend@USA.PIPELINE.COM)
Subject: Re: LUSH and volkswagons


>Ijust wanted to know if I was hearing right...  I've seen a commercial for
the
new Volkswagon Passat (or however you spell it) and I swear that Lush
provided the backround vocals.  Has anyone seen this; or is this old news?<


Yes it was Lush.  Old news, but don't feel bad, I've just finally seen the
Budweiser "Wild Horses" (the Sundays) commercial myself.

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:14:24 -0800
From: "Reality's email account" (mcclure@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: For Sale (various 4AD and others)


REPLY TO "mcclure@mugwump.ucsd.edu" AND NOT TO THE LIST!!

All {prices} in US$ and include shipping and handling within the
US (those outside of US, please contact seller).  Feel free to make
offers on the collectable stuff:

Full length CDs:

BARMY ARMY | The English Disease [UK:On-U Sound] -UK import with
Alien Jourgensen {10}

BOWIE, DAVID | Conversation Disc [UK:CDS] - Picture Disk, lmtd
edition (of 2500) {9}

CURE | Entreat [UK:Fiction] - Original UK live promo in slip
sleeve {10}

CURRENT 93 | Looney Runes [UK:Durtro] - Live in Japan {8}

DRUG FREE AMERICA | Attitude 50 Cents [UK:Blind Eye] {10}

FREE KITTEN | Nice Ass [US:Kill Rock Stars] {8}

FRONT242 | Backcatalogue [UK:RRE] {8}

GARY CLAIL'S TACKHEAD SOUND SYSTEM [US:Nettwerk] {8}

ICE-T | Rhyme Pays [US:Sire] {7}

NON | Sick Tour [US:Staalplaat] - numbered, lmtd of 500 in slip
sleeve {10}

POESIE NOIRE | Tales of Doom [Belgium:Antler] {10}

POESIE NOIRE | Tetra [Belgium:Antler] {10}

RECOIL | Hydrology (plus 1 + 2) [UK:Mute] - UK import oop {11}

SISTERS OF MERCY | Conversation Disc [UK:CDS] - Picture Disk,lmtd
edition(of 1500) {9}

SLEEP CHAMBER | Sleep, or Forever Hold Your Piece [German:Funfundvierzig]
{10}

VIDNA OBMANA|Ending Mirage[US:ND]-3rd of the ambient trilogy {8}


New Beat, Take 1 [Belgium:Subway] {10}
        (A Split Second, Erotic Dissidents, Taste of Sugar, Snowy
        Red, Jade 4 U)

Staring at the Sun [US:Blindspot] {4}
        (San Diego sampler: Dark Globe, Contra Guerra, Ferral
        Children, etc)

They Shall Not Pass [UK:Abstract/CNT] {9}
        (Sisters of Mercy, The 3 Johns, Redskins, The Mekons, etc.)

i'm a mess '94_ [US: none]  {6}
        (Compilation of IMS bands in slip sleeve [featuring
        aMiniature, Driptank, fluf, tanner, loraine, the nephews,
        well strung to hang, creedle, sugartwin reverb, and others])


AUTOHAZE  | Spanish [Aus:Summershine] - 1993 Australian Import in
slip sleeve {8}

DAN REED NETWORK Tiger in a Dress[US:Mercury]-2-track promo {1.50}

DANIELLE DAX | Tomorrow Never Knows [US:Sire] - CDsingle {4}

MINXUS  | Silk Purse [UK:Too Pure] - UK import {6}

SKATENIGS | Horny for Evil [UK:MegaForce] - 1-track promo {3}

WOLFGANG PRESS  | Going South [UK: 4AD] - UK import digipak {6}


_ND11_ (the video issue) [US:ND] {12}
        video compilation of "30 individual works from mailartists,
        audio artists, film and video artists, performance artists
        and others." 2 hour tape featuring The Haters, Illusion of
        Safety, the Seemen, Big City Orchestra, Ron Rice, and
        others.



BAUHAUS | book & 7"  - Italian import {20}

CURE | book & 7"  - Italian import {20}

REVOLTING COCKS | 1988 Reflex Magazine w/ RevCo "Drums Along the
Carbide" flexi {15}

SISTERS OF MERCY | Life - book & 7"  - Italian import {20}

SWANS | 1988 Reflex Magazine with Swans "New Mind (Version)"
flexi {15}

WOLFGANG PRESS | Going South promo compass/keychain {offer}

_Vital US_ #2 [RRR 074] magazine w/ 7". Interviews with Con-Dom,
THU20, Contrastate, Etant Donnes, Asmus Tietchens, Chop Shop.
7-inch is a sound-collage of these plus many more. {7}


BREEDERS/ULTRA VIVID SCENE | Fortunately Gone (exclusive mix) b/w
Three Stars (exclusive mix) [UK:Catalogue] - 1990 flexi originally
released with UK mag, The Catalogue. Condition: Good. {9}

FAMILY CAT | Wonderful Excuse b/w Goldenbook [US:Arista] - Promo
flexi with comic strip. {4}

LUSH | Rupert the Bear b/w Lit Up (demo) [US: 4AD/Reprise] -Promo
flexi offered with Soil Magazine. {18}

MINISTRY | "So What (Short Version)" flexi from 1990 Reflex Magazine
{18}

7" VINYL:

CEREBRAL CORPS | Perihelion [US:Alias]  {4}

TIT WRENCH|Temporarily Committed For Life[US:Vinyl Communications]{3}

TIT WRENCH | Go Back to Europe [US:Vinyl Communications] {3}

TIT WRENCH/VOLKS WHALE | Life Sucks... Do Me b/w untitled [US:Vinyl
Communications] {3}

12" VINYL

JIM CARROLL BAND | Catholic Boy [US: Atco/Warners] - the classic
album {6}

THE CHURCH | Tera Nova Cain + 2 [US:Arista] - Black label promo,
no PS. {5}

DAVID J | I'll be Your Chauffeur [UK: Beggars Banquet] - twelve-inch
import cut-out $2, still sealed. {5}

NURSE WITH WOUND | Alas, the Madonna... ep [UK:United Dairies] {9}

YELLO | The Race b/w Blazing Saddles [US:Mercury] - Promo featuring
various mixes of both tracks. No PS. {6}

Grindcrusher [UK:Earache] - UK import label comp featuring Godflesh,
Napalm Death, Bolt Thrower, Carcass, and others. {5}


Brion Gysin _The Process_ (paperback) {6}


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:16:03 -0500
From: eric burden (burden@ENGIN.UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...


yeah, well, who's not from ann arbor on this list?

eric


On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, Heather Elizabeth Phares wrote:

> Ooooh, spooky....I too am from AnnArborama....
>
> heather
>
> On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, aaron thomas spink wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, a bear of very little brain wrote:
> > >
> > > > ...everyone who is logged in from the state of Michigan?
> > > >
> > >
> > >  hi, my name is dan, and im an hniaholic from annarbor michigan
> > >
> > I as well am from A^2.
> >
> > aaron
> >
>

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 12:22:13 -0500
From: Steven Holmes (sbholmes@ALPHA.DELTA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...


On Sat, 24 Feb 1996 BluBelKnol@AOL.COM wrote:

> In a message dated 96-02-23 18:09:10 EST, you write:
>
> >> On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, a bear of very little brain wrote:
> >>
> >> > ...everyone who is logged in from the state of Michigan?
> >> >
> >>
> >>  hi, my name is dan, and im an hniaholic from annarbor michigan
> >>
> >I as well am from A^2.
> >
> >aaron
> >
> >
>
> greetings from down the street in Romulus...
>
> -blubelknol@aol.com
>

i guess that means us lansing-ites too.

steve

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 07:54:05 -0800
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: LUSH's volkswagons, actually those single covers


>and I swear that Lush provided the backround vocals.  Has anyone
>seen this; or is this old news?

I saw that ad on MTv one night, a week or two ago. I thought, so this is that
"Sweetness and Light" ad. So this is what I've been watching Singled Out for
four hours for... (No! I was cooking.. the TV was just on.. really!) They
really should have put Beavis and Butthead in there somewhere for variety.

Anyhoo, what is going on with the Lush covers for "Single Girl?" Is the person
responsible going for "low-fi" or "low-concept" art? It may be reasonable if
the end result is interesting but I wouldn't even call them that.
The logo's ok, not bad but those photos are simply embarrassing. I wouldn't let
anyone put stuff like that on my music.
I'm not even a great fan... just have the normal stuff of theirs.

-nck


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:35:32 GMT
From: "K. Bruner" (napalm@UGCS.CALTECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses in LA 2-20-95 (I)


Brett Boyd  writes:

>To the Official Great Goddess:
>To the Official Great Goddess:
>        Thanx for your criticisms, my only defense is that I thought Red
>Heaven was so poor that I have obviously blocked it from my memory.
>        Perchance with your luminous status of goddessness, you could elevate
>our understanding of that unenchanted evening?

I don't have time for you peons; I'm too busy being worshipped.  Oh,
wait, that's just my cat squatting to go to the bathroom.

I'm so sorry you got jostled; I obviously forgot to tell your neighbors
to be still during the show.


The Official Great Goddess To Whom You Do Beg of Dogbert's New Ruling Class
--
This brief cross-sectional spin through the dial's mandala suffices to
remind Kraft of what incontestable research continuously discovers and
covers back up:  the species is clinically psychotic.
                                        --Richard Powers


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 13:03:21 -0500
From: "oren, mefus a chedno" (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: random 4AD notes


There's an interview with Robin Guthrie in the new issue of Guitar Player.
Pretty interesting stuff, especially about Otherness - something about how
"there's an ambient record inside every Cocteau Twins record". Plus the
bastard has TWO Fender Bass VIes (white ones, too - not the icky sunburst
the reissues come in) and he's not even using them right now!

Listies in Canada may have caught the pack of 4AD videos on CityLimits last
night - RHP's "24", Swallow's "Ocean & Blue Skies" (somewhat interesting,
but what's the deal with her hair?) and one by the Pale Saints which the
titles said was "Fine Friend" but which was actually "Angel (Will You Be
My)" - a dull video for a dull song written by what appears to be a dull person.

Larry

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 10:49:01 -0800
From: Super 31 (super31@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: face the strange


hey brant -

regarding your post on Dewdrops...

I have a degree in English and a great deal of experience in writing,
but have yet to find anything in Southern California that doesn't
deal with business, finance, technology... (I'm currently working
at a brokerage firm doing editing and some composing of letters which
require no creativity whatsoever)

So.... if you are looking for any contributing writers, let me know.

Kelly =8)

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:04:03 +0100
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Listies in LA


Mail*Link(r) SMTP               Listies in LA

Here is a listing of the record stores I like.

* Aaron's records in Hollywood
* Penny Lane in either Westwood or Santa Monica
* Tempo is pretty good although it's not used CDs
* Poobah's in Pasadena

I'm sure Brant and other LA listies will be mroe help.

-nb- Black is the shadow of my soul

>>>>>>>>>>>Begin enclosed
Greetings,
    I wonder if some of you list members in Los Angeles could direct
me to the finer music stores in the area, as I will be
visiting there soon. Thanks in advance..
    And, you all should check out your fellow listie's Lowlife
wwwebsite (http://www.dhp.com/~ash) as it is quite cool.
    brian
    bwilliam@fogelson.csf.edu

    "I can't believe it, just me and my little knife;
    snip snip
    slice slice.


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 12:37:23 -0600
From: Holly Emmer (hemmer@RRGROUP.COM)
Subject: Is Michael Mahan on this list?


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Hi.
I'm looking for Michael Mahan.
If you are him, please email me
at hemmer@rrgroup.com

Thanks, and sorry to bother everyone
else!

Holly

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 10:47:23 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Moving the 4AD List?


My payment suggestion wasn't really serious; as Mike Lawyer points out
the logistics of collecting quarters (or even a yearly fee) from everyone
are kind of onerous unless we all use DigiCash (see www.digicash.com) or
one of its lesser competitors.

Laurent LaPierre mentioned having the ListServ send out a weekly notice
with details on unsubscribing and where to find the FAQ. A great idea but
I'm not sure which flavors of list server can handle this. Another option
would be to append a line or two of text to the end of each message.

I find it hard to believe that some people don't think this list is worth
25 cents a month. Jeez, that's a tenth the price of Option or AP or any
other music mag you can name. Granted, the magazines are a bit better
edited and don't have flamewars ... actually if the admin were paid it
might become worthwhile to do human editing on the list, at least the
digest, and weed out the obviously misdirected things like "unsubscribe
me" and sale bids.

__________                                            __________________
Jens Alfke                                            jens@mooseyard.com
             Ask not for whom the refrigerator hums:
             It hums for thee.                   _______________________
                                                 www.inow.com/~jens/Jens

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 10:47:09 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Fwd: Cindytalk - Cleveland Show Review.


Thought this would be appropriate to fwd since (a) there's been mention
of Cindytalk here and (b) many thislisty names are dropped including the
damnifty Bowery Electric.
Note that if anyone wants to subscribe to the Cindytalk mailing list
(fairly low traffic) the subscription address is
"Touched-Request@cs.bham.ac.uk". Put "subscribe" in the body.

--sneJ

-----------------------------------------------
Subject: Cindytalk - Cleveland Show Review.

From: Alfred Douglas, R684863S@edinboro.edu c i n d Y t a l k T O U C H E D T O U R - 1 9 9 6 F E B U A R Y 2 1 C L E V E L A N D - S P E A K I N T O N G U E S I am still in awe. This was one of the most powerful shows I have seen in a long time. Gordon and company really kicked it in last night at Cleveland's Speak in Tongues. The club could not have been more appropiate. It was an old house that the club owners live in. They bring in acts from all over the world that would not normally draw a huge crowd but only a select audience. To my suprise, the club owner is my friends cousin. Things got off to a really great start. If anyone is into the "Goth" scene, and I use that term quite loosely, they would have loved to have been there. Tara Van Flower of Projekt's LYCIA was on hand for the show and the bands leader, Mike Van Portfleet, was on the guest list. As for if he showed I wasn't able to find out. Also, the band members of LESTAT were sighted in the mass of people as well. The show started at 10:30 with New York's BOWERY ELETRIC taking the stage. If I would have closed my eyes, I could have imagined that SLOWDIVE reformed. Not that this is a bad thing, because it wasn't. Although they had a heavy SLOWDIVE influence, they had molded the wave of sound into their own. Very beautiful drones of ambient, atmosphereic guitar and female and male vocals. I picked up their disc and though I haven't listened to it the whole way through yet, I did hear parts this morning and it is well worth picking up. cindYtalk took the stage at 12:00am. Gordon slowly walked out and took his place centre stage. He pluged in his mike which was, if I'm not mistaken, a very expencive mike that opera singers use. He began with THE FIRST TIME EVER. Unfortunatly, some asshole had to yell some off colour remark towards Gordon at which he abruptly halted his vocals and told him to "Fuck off." He began again to only be stopped again by a simlar comment. Gordon demanded "Fucking respect," and instantly broke into a blistering rendition of "Muster" that was loaded with enough power to make your ears bleed. The entire set consisted of new material aside from "PRINCE OF LIES", "MUSTER", and "THE FIRST TIME EVER..." The set concluded with a track called "PUSSYENVY" which is from Gordon's "techno" side project. I can pronounce the name but won't attempt to spell it. It should be out by the end of the month. After the show I got a chance to meet the man behind the band I have followed for the last 8-9 years, and he is the most wonderful person to talk to. Very intelligent and articulate. I got my copy of WAPPENSHAW and CAMOUFLAGE HEART signed and we talked for a bit. Then I thanked him for the best 45 minute that I can remember in a long time. Here is the set list from the show: 1. First Time Ever... 2. Muster 3. Canto 4. By This River 5. Story Of My Cunt 6. Dirty Beautiful Dirty 7. Prince Of Lies 8. Anti-Nihil 9. On Wings Of Snow 10. Cool Cool Medusa 11. Save Abe 12. Honey 13. Pussyenvy Cheers to all, Alfred Douglas (Jason Sloan)

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:18:07 -0600
From: zelzah (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: not from ann arbor


At 11:16 AM 2/24/96 -0500, you wrote:
>yeah, well, who's not from ann arbor on this list?
>
>eric

-i'm not... I'm in Texas.
anyone else from texas???

erik


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:00:35 -0800
From: Paul (pauld@BEST.COM)
Subject: Re: not from ann arbor


At 03:18 PM 2/24/96 -0600, you wrote:
>At 11:16 AM 2/24/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>yeah, well, who's not from ann arbor on this list?
>>
>>eric
>
>-i'm not... I'm in Texas.
>anyone else from texas???
>
>erik
>
>

NOOO!   No more please!


 Hi, I'm from (your city or region here). Is anyone else from (same city or
region)? If you are please email me personally because I really want to know
but everyone else on the list may not be quite as interested.

-Paul
feeling vaguely hypocritical.


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:02:11 -0500
From: Jennifer Jamieson (Rmitchel5@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Could I have a show of hands from...


In a message dated 96-02-24 03:34:21 EST, you write:

>well, i don't know if this really counts......
>but i usually go to ann arbor  a lot when i'm home (i'm at school now),
>cos i live in toledo and there's nothing to do there....
>
>

Hey um, I was born in Ann Arbor...does this count..?

Jennifer (In Atlanta, GA)---anyone else?

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:02:36 -0500
From: Jennifer Jamieson (Rmitchel5@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: LUSH and volkswagons


In a message dated 96-02-24 05:26:50 EST, you write:

>Ijust wanted to know if I was hearing right...  I've seen a
>commercial for the new Volkswagon Passat (or however you spell it)
>and I swear that Lush provided the backround vocals.  Has anyone
>seen this; or is this old news?
>
>

old news it is, but yes it's true...the best commercials (if there is a
*best*) seem to be for VW.  You cant help but like hearing sweetness....

Jennifer

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:27:58 -0600
From: "Michael C. Lawyer" (lawmic@homer.acs.bethel.edu)
Subject: Re: face the strange


> If this sounds like a fun family to join, and if you'd
> like to get involved in the process of creating a quality
> publication, then get in touch with me by email. I certainly
> don't have the time or the resources to have a whole ton of
> people involved with Dewdrops, but I can see broadening out
> the current "two people do absolutely everything" process
> just a little, and I'll welcome any sort of ideas and input.
>

Mike Lawyer, part time overworked arts student, general music junkie,
occasional human being, bagel conisour, caffine addict, insomniac, always
looking for more ways to procrastinate.
I wouldn't mind doing artwork for any of you projects, or whatever you
need done in the way of graphic design type stuff, I've got access to a
nice scanner and if you can download graphics files I can just e-mail'm
to you, I'm not sure what you're looking for artwork wise I've never seen
you magizine, but If you wanted to send me a copy, (or my copy of the
sampler you keep meaning to send:)) or whatever, I can send you back some
samples. either way let me know

mike

this sig file does not exist

Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:45:29 -0600
From: "Michael C. Lawyer" (lawmic@HOMER.ACS.BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Apologies and Giant Sand


Curse and a pox upon all mailreaders that confusue and confound poor
inoccent listies who didn't mean to reply to the list, but it just
happened that way, and appologies to all of you who had to read it.

they were on a restless records 1994 sampler I picked up in the $2.99 bin
at the local used record shop, an info on who they are/where they come
from, how cool are they, sort of a thing, I like what's on the sampler a
lot, and I'm curious how cool all there other stuff is. the songs of
theirs on the sampler are (the?) Bender, and Here on the Planet.

mike

You are only imagining this sig


Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:05:42 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: LUSH and volkswagons


Yes Lush's song "Sweetness and Light" is on the commercial
but I think its a Golf on there isn't it? I have also noticed that a
newer one uses a Velocity Girl song too.

Steve

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:33:14 -0700
From: Brett Boyd (BOYDB@VAX4.CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Apologies and Giant Sand


Yep!

        Those boys and girl are from Tucson, Arizona--my home town.  The
band consists of Howie and his ex-wife (forgot her name) as the nucleus
of the band.  They have rotated many people through the band in their constant
evolution.  They are amazing musicians--Howie on guitar and keyboards (and
whatever needs to be played) and his ex-wife on bass.  I saw them over
Christmas, and was blown away watching Howie switch between his Gibson hollow
body and the Fender Rhodes keyboard for whole songs.
        They are much lauded in Europe--particularly Germany, and by select
few music circles here in the U.S.  They are quite visionary and
experimental--sometimes esoteric to smaller minds.
        They used to be called Giant Sandworms until some other band across
the country threatened to sue!  Overall consider yourself cool for
appreciating them, because I still don't own an album by them.  I just see
them live once in blue desert moon (and an occasional L.A. one too).

Brett


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