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Subject: hisnameisaLIVE w/Ohio & the ohms review
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:45:40 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Cindytalk and Rachel's review
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:45:44 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: all things spoonfed (esp, too!)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:04:36 -0600
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Zapre-orders
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:52:47 -0700 (MST)
From: EAR/Rational Music (ear@xmission.com)
Subject: Re: BAD 5
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:36:13 -0800
From: Ed Wakabayashi (zorg@ALOIS.ICON.PALO-ALTO.MED.VA.GOV)
Subject: Ride the Tortoise!
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:46:05 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Josephine Wiggs
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 10:21:37 +0000
From: "That would be telling ..." (Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: New Music Query
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:19:28 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: That Petrol Emotion.....
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 02:05:51 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: HNIA Question Repost
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 07:31:25 -0500
From: MiloV@AOL.COM
Subject: how to quit
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:02:50 -0500
From: Andrew Chapin (chapina@ALLEG.EDU)
Subject: Manchester UK local band gig - Crushed
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:32:39 +0000
From: "That would be telling ..." (Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Lisa Germano
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:47:51 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Is Minty a Man?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:54:14 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA videos
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:40:21 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: That Petrol Emotion.....
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:09:37 +0100
From: Christophe Demunter (Christophe.Demunter@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: Re: POLL RESULTS.1
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:09:45 -0800
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lisa Germano
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 12:25:44 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: That Petrol Emotion.....
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:44:04 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Is Minty a Man?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:55:49 -0600
From: zelzah (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Bedazzled Caravan Spring Tour Dates !!!
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:54:24 -0500
From: Steve Willett (willett@NI.UMD.EDU)
Subject: Stoa - Partus; Microsoft - Suckus
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:06:42 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: HNIA Question Repost
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:38:41 -0700
From: sean devine (kober@GAS.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU)
Subject: cindytalk show and stuff
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 10:28:55 -0500
From: Sargent David Edward (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: LUSH--AND GETTING OFF
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:10:43 -0800
From: David Kim (kdavid@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA Question Repost
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:35:46 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Livonia poster
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:50:26 -0500
From: Adam J Weitzman (weitzman@INDIVIDUAL.COM)
Subject: Re: POLL RESULTS.1 MY ASS
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 01:21:12 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)

Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:45:40 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: hisnameisaLIVE w/Ohio & the ohms review


well folks, last nights performance at The Green Room in Ypsilanti, MI was
nothing short of spectacular.

At last nights performance, Warren, Karin and Trey were joined by Deon (of
the ohms) and another friend of theirs Chad.  All were in fine form and even
played two new songs that had not been performed at the Holiday Noise/Pops
Fest in December.  The other songs (to appear on "Stars on ESP" later this
spring...) for the most part were performed just as they were 2 months ago,
with abscence of Mr. (? - name escapes me, former memeber of Destroy all
Monsters) on keyboard.  Last nights performance was strictly vocals, drums,
and strings...  quite a change, and still very uplifting in classic HNIA
fashion.  However, my only regret was that they still did not perform
anything from previous ventures.

Opening acts ohms and Ohio were very enjoyable as well.  The Ohms left me
somewhat disappointed as they changed their approach to their music adding
two vocalists who seemed to drown out their pleasant "noise appeal".  Add to
that the fact that they decided to limit their performance to about 20minutes
with 3 songs.  I think they sensed that the "new" Ohms did not seem well
received by the majority of the audience... but still,  Deon and Wade managed
pull of their parts brilliantly.  Ohio was pure joy!  (as was j.j. the
keyboardist whom i had the pleasure of talking to before and after the
performance - cute too.)  But a little difficult to compare to anything after
hearing them for the first time for only 30minutes.  I've only heard good
things about this band in the past... and they're all true.

The only part of the evening I regretted was that I didn't get a chance to
visit the much hyped about Abe's.  Oh well, there's always next time...!  and
in Michigan, you know there will be.

blubelknol@aol.com
"seasons turn and the air is cold... lakes frozen over and seasons fold...
 tonight there I cannot rest, so we sleep together"  ~HNIA from  the
forthcoming "Stars on ESP"

(time to get excited everyone)

Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:45:44 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Cindytalk and Rachel's review


With the upcoming appearance of Cinytalk later this month at Alvin's here in
Michigan (Detroit to be precise) I thought I'd give them a try with all the
favorable reviews they've been given here on the list in the past.  I wish I
could sum it all up in one word, but I cannot...  if I had to it would be
surprising.
Cindytalk seem to me as if it's the perfect blend of something you might here
off of Projekt with a bit 'o noise, hints of TMC, and mesmerizing vocals all
rolled into one.

I walked into the music store with every intention of buying a Cindytalk CD
but after discovering the only one available was "wappinschaw" for an ungodly
amount of $17.99... but I figured it could be considered an import and with
all the favorable reviews I thought why not...  after popping it into my CD
player, you should have seen the expression on my face as I heard a rendition
of "the first ever... (i saw your face)"  Yes, a rendition of the classic
song from those 80's commercials (for some kind of soap right? anyway...) but
after the shock wore off after a few seconds, I really truely realized the
full beauty of the song.  Due mainly to the amazing vocal abilities of Gordon
Sharp.  The rest of the CD is equally as pleasing.  (The 12 minute bagpipe
song takes a little getting used to).  The beginning of "wheest" was really
cute.  The storybook reading sample actually captured my attention in that
"fascinated child"-like manner!  It was all so amazing.

And then as if that wasn't enough, I thought I'd look in the bin for the
latest release from Rachel's that I've heard so much about entitled "music
for egon schiele".  Every bit as pleasing as the first effort with a few new
surprises.  I've only had a chance to listen to samples of the first few
songs so far, but I just know that this will soon become one of my all-time
favorites.  Just as emmotional as the first CD, but as I said earlier, it
lends it's own surprises.  So relaxing and soothing was this CD, I fell
asleep while attempting to have my first full listen of the CD 

And so I realize my review-writing talents aren't all that they should be, so
I'll just sum it all up with this:

RUN out and buy both of these CD's ~~~  you won't be disappointed.

-blubelknol@aol.com
"Know who you are at every age" - CT


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:04:36 -0600
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: all things spoonfed (esp, too!)


>>Also, what does ESP sound like?  Would it perchance resemble any of the =
>>traditional Pale Saints material?
>
>Not at all! It's minimalist, a lot of piano and pencil guitar, very few
>electric guitar, and Warren samples...
>the voice of Ian is really above the music, well hearable.

There is one song on the CD that has some absolutely gorgeous cello bits.  I
think it's called "Your Hands," and it has become my absolute fave ESP song.
Strummed acoustic guitar on the left channel, tremolo/pan electric on the
right, a cello weaving in and about, a light sprinkling of that trademark
Defever electronics, and that saintly voice.  Just makes ya wanna swoon.  :)
Totally aces.

That "ESP Sound" is... well, Laurent pretty much nails it in the above
description.  It is very subtly minimalist with lots of little sounds
swirling about (one of the songs has, of all things, the sound of a baby
crying mixed in really low... threw me for a loop), and I'd describe the
whole affiar a pleasantly subverted folk/singer/songwriter album that's been
put through the Defever technicolor aural combine.  Oh, yeh, no drums, so it
doesn't rock out anywhere.

On a slightly related note, there's a release on Time Stereo called New
Grape.  From what I understand, this is basically a woman singer/songwriter
outta NYC who writes and sings the songs that Warren plays guitar and
records.  Very reminiscent of ESP Summer and highly recommended (a friend is
sending me a tape of the Time Stereo Alice Cooper tribute tape, which I'm
waiting for with bated breath...).

>(this is for the ESP-Continent CD (=ESP-Summer Tape); I'm still waiting for
>the ESP-Summer 25cm remixes... it's on the road...)

Y'know, this is perhaps the first time I've heard the 10" being referred to
in Metric units (although the retentive design engineer in me wants to
scream out "It's 25.4cm!" but I'll try to behave...).  :)

Cheers,


hk
--
"And I always knew that
 one day I'd be a star shining in the sky,
 'cos if the right newspaper says that I am
 I'm a star...."  -- The Steinbecks
--
hk kahng | hk@neosoft.com & farrago@delphi.com
         | http://www.neosoft.com/~hk/home.htm
         | hey, look! i'm picasso!


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:06:35 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: ear/rational xtracts


New pre-orders stuff I thought would interest some people.

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:52:47 -0700 (MST)
From: EAR/Rational Music (ear@xmission.com)
Subject: Zapre-orders


[snipped up liberally]

Cocteau Twins-Tishbite 12" CTX5 $8.25
The 12" vinyl for the Cocteau's new single. No details yet. (Mercury)

Garbage-Stupid Girl 7"/CDS#l/CDS#2 $5.00/$9.25
New single from guitar-pop-swirl thirty-somethings on 7" featuring the title
and "Dog New Tricks" Remix, a Limited Edition thingy in two different cloth
sleeves they say. CDS#1 has the title, a Red Snapper Remix of the title,
"Driving Lesson" and the "Dog New Tricks" Remix. CDS#2 has the title, the
Dreadzone Vocal Mix and the Dreadzone Dub of the title, and a tune/tribute
called "Alien Sex Fiend". (Discordant)

Lush-Ladykillers 7" AD6002 $5.00
A Limited Edition 7" has been added to the release schedule for Jack
Rabid's fave babe-watch pop group. Lock in your orders right now. (4AD)

Lush-Lovelife Limited LP BADD6004 $19.50
Lush's upcoming album will be available for initial orders on clear wax,
inna clear sleeve, with a clear lyric sheet! And hell, Pulp's Jarvis
Cocker makes a guest appearance. Clearly, a transparent aftempt at
collectability. (4AD)

Madonna-One More Chance Ltd CDS W0337CDX $9.25
The Queen of Pop's Limited CDS comes with a big fold-out poster of the
cover shot, plus it has music on it, too! The title, the Spanish Version
and Spaninglish Version of "You'll See".

Moonshake-Cranes CDS CZ083 $7.00
Groovy Limeys have cut the cord with TooPure/American and have signed
with former grunge label.  Sounds bizarre, I know, but this is merely
the first of the surprises C/Z has in store for all of us. Anyway,
brand new material here from Dave Callahan and pals has a simpler feel
to it but retains moonshake's renowned quirkiness and varied style. Aw,
gosh, it'll be cool.  Look for a remix CD feat some way rad talent in
the near future. (C/Z)

Trainspotting & A Shallow Grave-Screenplays BOOK $15.50
By John Hodge. This does have a US cover price of $13.95 printed on the
sleeve, and I will aftempt to get a better price.
Softcover, 235 pages, 24 b+w illustrations

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:36:13 -0800
From: Ed Wakabayashi (zorg@ALOIS.ICON.PALO-ALTO.MED.VA.GOV)
Subject: Re: BAD 5

              Jacobson" at Feb 18, 96 07:51:34 pm

Creig Jacobson said:
>
> > And one more question: since I won't be able to listen to it
> >for another month or so (when I get a new turntable), how is the
> >version of 'Feedback Song' different from the version on Natures
> >Mortes?  I haven't listened to it in a while.
>
> It's the same version.

Hmmm, the time listed on the ep is different than on Natures Mortes.
I guess the ep version is slightly edited?

Ed
--
Edward Wakabayashi                    /\   You've kissed everybody else's
                                      \/   so you can kiss my ass as well
zorg@alois.icon.palo-alto.med.va.gov  /\      -*Her Majesty the Baby*-
zorg@interramp.com                    \/


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:46:05 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Ride the Tortoise!


Apologies to those of you who'll get this twice - Ride and Tortoise are
mentioned on both the 4AD and drone lists these days.

Ride firstly - I bought their final EP, "Black Nite Crash", and it's
not bad - almost good.  Four songs, heavy thrashy guitar (something
like a combination of the first couple of EPs and "Going Blank
Again").  Like too many Creation bands, they seem to have spent more
time trying to sound like the Stones/Faces than stamping their own
personality on the music (the lead song invites you to sing the chorus
of "Brown Sugar"), but as far as Rolling Stones rip-offs go, it's
rather a good one - certainly better than Primal Scream's last dismal
efforts.  On a scale of 1 ("Carnival of Shite") to 10 ("Ride" & "Play")
I'll give it 7.

Also bought Tortoise's "Millions Now Living Will Never Die".  While I
can hear the tenuous links to Stereolab, I kept thinking of Felt's
"Train Above the City" jazz instrumental album.  It's a relaxing,
pleasant collection of instrumentals, perfect for flicking through the
arts review pages of the Observer on a Sunday evening.  I can't hear
why people rave about them, though.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 19/02/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Wire - Pink Flag

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 10:21:37 +0000
From: "That would be telling ..." (Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Josephine Wiggs


> She was on the tour with Luscious Jackson because she and Kate from LJackson
> are sweethearts, and she and Kate have just put out a funny seven inch on
> Grand Royal Records called "Ladies Who Lunch--Kim's We Love" where they do
> cheezy, synthesized versions of Sonic Youth's "Bull in The Heather" and
> and instrumental version of "Gigantic."  Well, they aren't that cheezy.  I fin

> them entertaining really.
>
> dotyee@dlu.edu
>

Also so Honey Tongue. 'Nude Nudes' LP is a wonderful mellow
experience on Playtime Records and still on eof my favourite records.

Richard.


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:19:28 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: New Music Query

              "Grant.Schwarz@DSTO.DEFENCE.GOV.AU" at Feb 18, 96 05:13:45 pm

Grant.Schwarz@DSTO.DEFENCE.GOV.AU wrote:
>
> Any recommendations for the following bands? Brief descriptions
> were found at www.sirencd.com.
>
> Bluetones - Expecting To Fly CD Much anticipated debut album
> from these Britpop sensations. 11 tracks. Similarities to Stone Roses.

"Similarities"???  From the tracks I have heard (it's one of those
albums which is being played constantly in the shops) it's the album
that everyone wishes the Stone Roses had made after their debut.  If you
were disappointed by "Second Coming", this is the one for you.  And
unlike many derivative bands, they sound almost as good as the
originals.

> Rare - Something Wild 7"  Something Wild CDS $8.99 Irish band who
> are causing a stir with their original mix of styles that echoes
> Portishead & Massive Attack with guitar riffs & soulful vocals.
> Features Sean O'Neill & Mary Gallagher (Undertones/That Petrol
> Emotion).

Nobody called Mary in the Undertones or TPE to my knowledge.  Sean
O'Neill is a musical genius, though, and it's good to see he's back.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 19/02/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Wire - Pink Flag


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 02:05:51 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: That Petrol Emotion.....


Andrew Norman nja@le.ac.uk mentioned TPE right this minute so what better time
to pose a question I have had in my head for a while now regarding the band's
output.

As far as I am aware there was an EP "V2" way back when followed by:
- Manic Pop Thrill
- Babble
- End of the millenium psychosis blues
- Chemicrazy
+ various 12" from these LPs e.g. Big Decision, Hey Venus, Fleshprint etc.

Then there was another LP (something about fire or the sort) - feel free to
fill in the title at this point. I suppose this is question 1coupled with what a
 I mssing here?
Question 2 - are they now defunct?

Wasn't Fergal whatisface in the Undertones?

Later List
Chris


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 07:31:25 -0500
From: MiloV@AOL.COM
Subject: HNIA Question Repost


Hmmm... perhaps the telecom bill has started censoring already.

There was a subject and it did make sense when I sent it!

I was asking if anyone has a copy of HNIA's In Every Ford CD that has a
front cover or does it just come without one.  If anyone has a front
cover, what does it look like, the 4AD compleatist in me must know (and
most likely buy a third copy)

Thanks, Again,



James                 "speak a little softer
                                      work a little louder
"The Devil breaks both your hands,    shoot less with more care
 Takes your stuff and runs away."     sing a little sweeter
 -HNIA                                and love a little longer
                                      and soon you will be there"
                                      -Jane Siberry


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:02:50 -0500
From: Andrew Chapin (chapina@ALLEG.EDU)
Subject: how to quit


Please, could someone tell me how to make it so I don't recieve these post anymo
e.  I love them and
all, I just can't  take it.  Andrew

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:32:39 +0000
From: "That would be telling ..." (Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk)
Subject: Manchester UK local band gig - Crushed


Those of you in the Manchester UK area may be interested in catching
local band Crushed on Thursdsay 29 February 1996 at PJ
Bells/Republic[a] on Oldham St off Piccadilly Gdns.

They are (IMHO) very this listy and excellent. Though I am friends with
them and could be biased (I don't belive so). Tickets should only be
a couple of quid. If you want more info mail me direct.

Richard
Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:47:51 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lisa Germano


Can anyone tell me about Lisa Germano's "On the way down from the moon
palace" (or something like that for a title) ? Is it in the same vein as
her 4AD releases? Is it worth the purchase?
thanks


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:54:14 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Is Minty a Man?


microsoft kicks ass if what you appreciate is coporate hell, hostile
take-overs, idea stealing, and industry monopolization. Yeah they kick
ass at being ruthless business moguls, but there are far better products
out there.
imho of course

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:40:21 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA videos



I was also in attendence saturday night for the hnia show.  it was fantastic!
warren says that the lp will probably be out in may, even tho the
official date is sometime in april. bummer.

anyway, im wondering how one can get a copy of one or more of the hnia
promotional videos (as i've given up on mtv, surprise)?
has anyone seen them?
does anyone wanna swap for them?

are there more than lip, married, and cant go wrong?

much grass!


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:09:37 +0100
From: Christophe Demunter (Christophe.Demunter@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: Re: That Petrol Emotion.....


On Mon, 19 Feb 1996 Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM wrote:

About 10 years ago, I heard a killer song by That Petrol Emotion called
'Party Games' (performed live, I guess 30th September 86 in Amsterdam).
Is this a regular TPE-song or just a cover they once did ?

Bye,

PS : sorry for posting this to the 4ad list, but after all, it's a reply ...


 Christophe Demunter,
 Gent, Belgium.

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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:09:45 -0800
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: POLL RESULTS.1


At 03:58 PM 2/18/96 +0100, you wrote:
>There must have gone something wrong, because this is the way it should be:
>
>
>BEST 4AD RELEASE OF THE YEAR
>
>1. 79 The Amps-Pacer (11)
>
>
>
>WORST 4AD RELEASE OF THE YEAR (EVER)
>
>1. 82 Mojave 3-Ask Me Tomorrow (19)
>
>
>
>
>Emiel Efdee
>
I second that!  Mojave 3 has to be one of the most uninspired, dull, limp
releases of 1995...and of course everything is derivative, but has anyone
ever listened to "The Trinity Sessions" by the Cowboy Junkies (or worse,
70's california mor rock?).  Now I fully understand what everyone means by
"4AD have lost their 'sound'"...you all want the wispy, pseudo-intellectual
"ethereality" of bands gone by.  Let's face it, The Amps album is a pop
piece de resistance!  I love opinions though...listen to Mojave 3 ad
nauseum, for I'll bet it is their only release on 4AD.  (I'm so mean!)

Going to go listen to the latest TeenBeat sampler--the Air Miami song is
worth the $3.98 list price alone, a great Unrest-ish instrumental called
"Bubbling Over".

Oh-I saw Throwing Muses last eve in San Francisco...they were flawless (even
with the so-so sound).  They did what I thought were a few unexpected
were good.

Love

Peter

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 12:25:44 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lisa Germano


In Message Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:47:51 -0500,
  Joseph Burns  writes:

>Can anyone tell me about Lisa Germano's "On the way down from the moon
>palace" (or something like that for a title) ? Is it in the same vein as
>her 4AD releases? Is it worth the purchase?
>thanks

it's not nearly as dark as her 4ad stuff. . .think of it as a cross between
john mellencamp's stuff and "happiness," which shouldn't be too surprising
when you think about it. . .

lisa goes country is another way i've described it.  personally, i don't
like it as much as the other stuff, but it's not terrible.

BiZ


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:44:04 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: That Petrol Emotion.....

              "Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM" at Feb 19, 96 02:05:51 am

Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM wrote:
 >
 > Andrew Norman nja@le.ac.uk mentioned TPE right this minute so
 > what better time to pose a question I have had in my head for a
 > while now regarding the band's output.
 >
 > As far as I am aware there was an EP "V2" way back when followed
 > by:

And "Keen".

 > - Manic Pop Thrill
 > - Babble
 > - End of the millenium psychosis blues
 > - Chemicrazy
 > + various 12" from these LPs e.g. Big Decision, Hey Venus,
 > Fleshprint etc.
 >
 > Then there was another LP (something about fire or the sort) -
 > feel free to fill in the title at this point. I suppose this is
 > question 1coupled with what am I mssing here?

I think the final album was "Fireproof", I didn't think much of it - TPE
could be very patchy.  Almost everything from the first, second and
fourth albums is great, though.  "Chemicrazy" is now available at an
ultra-low price, I bought the CD for a fiver recently.

 > Question 2 - are they now defunct?

Yes - they left Virgin, the final album was released on their own Koogat
label, and as they were skint when they released it and it didn't sell
very well, they called it a day.  Sad, but if Virgin couldn't sell their
albums (and they tried every trick in the book with "Chemicrazy") then
they probably made the right decision.  One of those bands who suffered
because they were never fashionable.

 > Wasn't Fergal whatisface in the Undertones?

Those albums are also now available on CD at budget price, the perfect
punk-pop group.  (Forget the Breeders!)

Not much 4AD content, so I'll add that the Scheer EP "Shea" comes on 7"
with an acoustic "You Say" on the B-side (not on the CD version).
Anyone know about other formats?  The CD includes "My World" (live in
the studio), "Demon" (acoustic) and "Nemesis" (demo).  Picture on the
front appears to be two worms doing naughty things with each other
(worms are hermaphrodites).

--
Andrew Norman, nja@le.ac.uk, +44 (0) 116 252 2563
Senior Computer Officer, Engineering Department
University of Leicester, England.

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 11:55:49 -0600
From: zelzah (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Re: Is Minty a Man?


>microsoft kicks ass if what you appreciate is coporate hell, hostile
>take-overs, idea stealing, and industry monopolization. Yeah they kick
>ass at being ruthless business moguls, but there are far better products
>out there.
>imho of course

...well, of course, that was my own opinion.  microsoft works for me,
whether all that bs you claim is true or not, i could care less what goes on
around the world as far as business news goes ...it's so lame.  and anyway,
if microsoft was as bad as you claim it is, it wouldn't be as popular as it
is today ...like it really matters, right, but people wouldn't buy into it
if it sucked and they would apparently be gone.  well, windows95 is pretty
bad, or so i've heard ...i'm still running win-3.1 and everything's alright
but who knows???


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:54:24 -0500
From: Steve Willett (willett@NI.UMD.EDU)
Subject: Bedazzled Caravan Spring Tour Dates !!!


Hey Kids,

As part of our on-going efforts the spread the gospel that is Bedazzled,
we have put together a string of East Coast Dates so you can experience
this stuff live and in person.

Enjoy & See ya there .......



3/1     Boston, MA  @ Mama Kins $7
        Underflowers, An April March, Siddal, The Curtain Society

3/2     New York, NY @ Under Acme  $6
        Feast of Saints, Underflowers, Siddal, An April March, WIWW

3/3     Providence, RI @ the Met Cafe  $4
        Underflowers, Siddal, Mistle Thrush

3/5     Richmond, VA @ the Hole In The Wall  $3
        Underflowers, Siddal

3/8     Washington DC @ 9:30 Club  $4
        Underflowers, An April March, Mistle Thrush, Siddal

3/9     Pittsburgh, PA @ CMU/Mellon Institute Auditorium  $5
        An April March, Siddal, Underflowers

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:06:42 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Stoa - Partus; Microsoft - Suckus


I have been listening to Heavenly Voices III alot lately, in particular this
one song.  I absolutely love this song.  It's one of the most beautiful songs
I've heard in a long time.  Easily my favorite song of the year.  The only
song that comes close is the cranes "far away".  It is perfect in every way
(except it's too short)

I picked up Stoa's first release on Hyperium (Urbona?) but it is very
disappointing compared to this song.  I was wondering if anyone on here has
their latest release?  It's called "Porta VIII" I believe.  I feel burned
after spending $17 on their first release, so I wanted to get some feedback
from people on this list before making another $17 mistake.  (or should I take
this over to alt.gothic.black.people.who.carry.fat.albert.lunchboxes)

If you haven't heard this song, then you should immediately go out and buy
Heavenly Voices III.  (It's available through Projekt/Darkwave)

BTW; Microsoft is a huge grossly-overfed monolith of a corporation which
produces mediocre software at best.  However, I have no problem with Bill
Gates' right to earn a fortune from millions of lemmings too unintelligent to
know the difference between a hot steaming floppy-disk-of-feces and good
software.  I'm not their mother.  Everyone has the right to buy a pet-rock.
Likewise Vaughn Oliver has the right to suckle at the teat of Bill all he
wants.



marvynHortman                        ftp://sharedcast.hccs.cc.tx.us


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:38:41 -0700
From: sean devine (kober@GAS.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA Question Repost


On Mon, 19 Feb 1996 MiloV@AOL.COM wrote:

> Hmmm... perhaps the telecom bill has started censoring already.
>
> There was a subject and it did make sense when I sent it!
>
> I was asking if anyone has a copy of HNIA's In Every Ford CD that has a
> front cover or does it just come without one.  If anyone has a front
> cover, what does it look like, the 4AD compleatist in me must know (and
> most likely buy a third copy)
>
> Thanks, Again,
>
>
>
> James                 "speak a little softer
>                                       work a little louder
> "The Devil breaks both your hands,    shoot less with more care
>  Takes your stuff and runs away."     sing a little sweeter
>  -HNIA                                and love a little longer
---the only two copies that i have seen are coverless. just give a piece
of construction paper to a 4 yr. old and some crayons.
--sean
"The storm in your eyes, suggests an inner calm"


Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 10:28:55 -0500
From: Sargent David Edward (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: cindytalk show and stuff


greetings, i was fortunate enough to ride up to the district of columbia
this weekend for the cindytalk, tone, and mistle thrush (no-shows) show
at the black cat. tone played with a cast (ensemble) of 7! guitars (only
one bass), two percussionists, and two trombonists. honestly, though, i
think slint do more with just three guitars. tone is, i think, an
exercise in scales and tempo. there is so much potential there, but they
didn't even screw around with tempos, syncopations, or harmonies.
i didn't know what to expect from cindytalk since the only album(s) i've
heard is(are) "in this world". the show seemed to be a synthesis of that
work; slow and brooding at times while harsh and piercing at others. very
strange stuff in my book. my friend says they did an eno cover. for an
encore they stuck in "help me lift you up" in the middle of a song. very
cool.
since i was in town, i did some record shopping naturally. i found the
tmc box set for $40. so, anyone want to buy the import versions (cd) of
"filligree and shadow" or "blood"? i also got the "university" lp for $7.99!
here's the climax; i found this split 7" on blue vinyl of unrest doing a
james song and heidi berry doing an unreleased track. it's a 4ad/teenbeat
corelease. any idea what this is worth? i also found wedding present
single #4 for $4. they had #1 for $12.:(
ok, that's enough rambling. bad dog!
dave(desarg@mail.wm.edu)

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:10:43 -0800
From: David Kim (kdavid@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: LUSH--AND GETTING OFF


        Oh, please, please tell me how to get off this list.  I shudder with
dread and sorrow at my inability to push away from the terrible tides
that bind me.

        Please.

        thank You.

        kdavid@u.washington.edu

        (please mail replies to ME and not this list, for I get so many
things from this list that its impossible--so many posts on lush, whom i
like to Hear but nOT READ about from ten million people complaining about
Lovelife, Ladykiller, or whatever it is--so PLEASE HELP ME GET OFF THIS
LIST FOREVER.)

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:35:46 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: HNIA Question Repost


In a message dated 96-02-19 07:41:45 EST, James writes:

>I was asking if anyone has a copy of HNIA's In Every Ford CD that has a
>front cover or does it just come without one.  If anyone has a front
>cover, what does it look like, the 4AD compleatist in me must know (and
>most likely buy a third copy)
>
>Thanks, Again,
>
>
>
>James 

Well, I myself have 2 copies, and neither have a cover.

The same "promo" CD-single (or whatever you call it) has been issued before
for the likes of DCD, Lush, Lisa Germano, Frank Black, and TMC to name a few.
 The only one that I KNOW that has cover art, is the Frank Black "Los
Angeles" promo CD.  All have the tell-tale orange-colored CD except for Lisa
Germano's "Stars", DCD "American Dreaming" and Frank Black's "Los Angeles".

I bit technical, but I hope it answers your question, which in short is....
NO, it doesn't have a cover.

-blubelknol@aol.com

Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:50:26 -0500
From: Adam J Weitzman (weitzman@INDIVIDUAL.COM)
Subject: Re: Livonia poster


Don't fall for it.  He'll offer to sell it to you for a price, and then when
you agree to pay it, he'll tell you that he got so many offers that he's no
longer willing to sell it to you for that price but will instead auction it
off among all the people who responded to him.

That's what he did to me with the 13 Year Itch CD.  While I have no doubts
that he got many respondents to his offer, I'm still of the opinion that if
you offer something for a price, and the offer is accepted, that you
shouldn't then turn around and change the terms.  Does anyone agree with me,
or am I being off the wall here?

Nick Hill wrote:
>
> I'm sure i've got a spare copy which I'm willing to sell you.  I'll check
> when I get home
>
> Nick
>  ----------
> From: 4ad recording artists list
> To: NHill; Multiple recipients of list 4AD-L
> Subject: Re: Livonia poster
> Date: Friday, February 16, 1996 4:40PM
>
> hey! im i've been looking forever for the LIVONIA poster which came in
> the v23 poster tube a few years back.  it features artwork not included
> on the sleeve, and i really, really wanna get one. if anyone is willing
> to sacrifice or knows where one could be acquired, id be as happy as a
> little girl
>
> dan

--
Adam J Weitzman ----- Individual, Inc. ----- weitzman@individual.com
"I love the music of the 20th century!" - Bruce Willis, "12 Monkeys"


Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 01:21:12 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: POLL RESULTS.1 MY ASS


Peter wrote:

>Going to go listen to the latest TeenBeat sampler--the Air Miami song is
>worth the $3.98 list price alone, a great Unrest-ish instrumental called
>"Bubbling Over".

The full title is 'Bubbling All Over My Ass'. A great title! (also check out
their unreleased 'Adidas My Ass' on the 'Spin Radio Network Shows 19/20'
CD). But BAOMA is in fact nothing but a version of 'Reprise', from
'Me.Me.Me.'. And for some strange reason BAOMA re-appears as one of the
uncredited tracks at the very end of 'Wakefield Vol.5', the TeenBeat sampler
we're talking about here. 'Reprise Reprise'??

Frank




+++++++++++++++++++
Frank Brinkhuis
frankbri@pop.pi.net
+++++++++++++++++++


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