Subject: Re: all things spoonfed (esp, too!)
Subject: New Music Query
Subject: Re: Galaxie 500
Subject: Rachel's and stuff
Subject: POLL RESULTS.1
Subject: Re: POLL RESULTS.1
Subject: Re: BAD 5
Subject: Re: Is Minty a Man?
Subject: Re: Virus al leer el correo
Subject: Re: all things spoonfed (esp, too!)
Subject: Kelly Deal - Twisted Willie (fwd)
Subject: pixies singles auction
Subject: Re: all things spoonfed (esp, too!)
Subject: Ramblings about 4AD and HNIA 7"
Subject: TM and Elysium play this week
Subject: Re: BAD 5
Subject: POLL RESULTS.2
Subject: POLL RESULTS.2
Subject: Re: Hey you people in New Mexico!
Subject: Re: Is Minty a Man?
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 00:20:10 -0600
Hello.
I'm also an obsessive Pale Saints fan (or at least getting there).
I've heard much commotion about Spoonfed Hybrid and ESP (etc.). If it =
wouldn't be too much trouble, could you please describe those two =
projects? I've heard many people describe the sound of Spoonfed Hybrid =
as being like "Little Hammer" on In The Comforts Of Madness ... slow, =
soft, experimental. Would you agree with that description?
Also, what does ESP sound like? Would it perchance resemble any of the =
traditional Pale Saints material? (Perhaps I should specify what I mean =
by traditional here. I have in mind songs such as: Half-Life, =
Remembered; Baby Maker; Colours And Shapes; Language Of Flowers; Time =
Thief; and the like.)
Thanks.
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:13:45 +1030
Any recommendations for the following bands? Brief descriptions
were found at www.sirencd.com.
--
Butterfly Child - Honeymoon Suite CD 12 track debut album
explores the range of emotions that constitute LOVE. Comparisons range
from Robert Wyatt to John Cage to Spacemen 3 to My Bloody Valentine. On
DEDICATED Records.
Bluetones - Expecting To Fly CD Much anticipated debut album
from these Britpop sensations. 11 tracks. Similarities to Stone Roses.
Everything But the Girl - Night & Day CDS Reissue of
long-out-of-print debut single including rare bonus tracks "Feeling
Dizzy" & "On My Mind".
Rare - Something Wild 7" Something Wild CDS $8.99 Irish band who
are causing a stir with their original mix of styles that echoes
Portishead & Massive Attack with guitar riffs & soulful vocals.
Features Sean O'Neill & Mary Gallagher (Undertones/That Petrol
Emotion).
We All Fall Down - Fairy Tales CD Debut mini album from band
with comparisons to Mazzy Star, Kristin Hersh & Stevie Nicks.
Being - Selected Transmissions (2 CD) CD Blissfully deep, dark
and catchy collection from Scotland's Dave Being featuring 1 disc of
tracks from his ultra rare singles and a 2nd disc of previously
unreleased material. Compare to Black Dog, Plasticman, Eno, Zoviet
France & Pete Namlook.
Weekenders - Weekenders Compilation (9 tracks) CD Hotly-tipped
UK dream popsters' collection of rare singles and compilation tracks.
Lamb - Gold CDS 2nd single from acclaimed trip hip outfit includes 5
remixes by Autechre and others. Release Date: 22-Mar-96
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 14:07:00 GMT+0100
More information about galaxie 500
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Bjarne laugesen
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 09:00:38 EST
Got the Rachel's LP 'Music For Egon Schiele' today - what a wonderful record.
Twelve tracks for a trio of cello, piano and viola, some of the tunes are
unbearably beautiful and sad. I'd recommend it to anyone. All the tracks are
composed by Rachel Grimes - this woman is a genius. And Jason Noble doesn't even
appear - it's an easy life having your own band.
Also got Marta Sebestyen's new LP Kismet. She has such a beautiful voice. She
sings a lot of European / Indian stuff here - diversifying from the usual
Hungarian. There are two moving Irish ballads sung in English. For anyone not
aware of her past work, she is a Hungarian folk singer whose voice is not unlike
those found on the two stunning Voix Bulgares compilations 4AD put out in the
80s.
Someone posted that Warners have scheduled a releas date for the Blue Nile LP of
May 28. Wow. Still I'll only believe it when I've got it. I first saw a release
slated for March 95 in a French mag. Then May, then August, then November. I
remember Paul Buchanan apologising to us about Hats taking five years when I saw
the band at the Free Trade Hall in Manchester back in September '90. Soryy it
took so long, the next one won't I promise. Still 10 tracks in seven years
compares with seven in five. Look forward to the tour summer '97.
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 08:47:05 -0500
Here are the results of the 1995 4AD-L Poll. I will break the results up to
help those of you with computers as dumb as the one I've got. There are 4
results in this one, with more on the way soon. The results are accurate and
I have taken no bribes. There are results from 41 different list members
(not a lot, in my opinion for a list of around 400). I could not possibly
post everything in some categories...The list of non-4AD songs for example
goes on for 12 pages alone. I've included here the most significant results.
If you have questions, e-mail me at [email protected] Hope these are easy
to read.
I have treated ALL votes equally, whether I agree with them or not. It is
not my place to judge what people have selected. Nor do I feel it is in any
list member's place to criticize what others have chosen-it's simply what
they feel. And finally, please don't quibble over some of this stuff
(ie-"Hey, the 4AD calendar wasn't really a 4AD release!") I've counted what
I felt to be acceptable, and when something was glaringly out of place, I
personally contacted the voter about it. CJ
Each category is listed in order. The number to the left of the Artist/Title
is the TOTAL number of votes received for that release. The number in
parentheses to the right of the Artist/Title is the total number of PEOPLE
who voted for that release.
BEST 4AD RELEASE OF THE YEAR
1. 82 Mojave 3-Ask Me Tomorrow (19)
2. 78 Lisa Gerrard-The Mirror Pool (17)
3. 54 Throwing Muses-University (14)
4. 42 Red House Painters-Ocean Beach (11)
5. 34 Tarnation-Gentle Creatures (11)
6. 28 Air Miami-Me,Me,Me (9)
7. 27 The Amps-Pacer (6)
8. 24 Kendra Smith-5 Ways (5)
9. 22 Liquorice-Listening Cap (7)
10. 20 Belly-King (4)
11. 14 The Wolfgang Press-F.L. Demons (4)
12. 11 Facing the Wrong Way promo (2)
13. 7 Air Miami-#$*@ You Tiger (2)
14. 3 Scheer-Schism (2)
3 Belly-Now They'll Sleep (1)
16. 2 Joe Friday promo 7" (1)
17. 1 Kristin Hersh-The Holy Single (1)
18. 0 The Wolfgang Press-Going South (0)
0 Belly-Seal My Fate (0)
0 The Amps-Tipp City (0)
WORST 4AD RELEASE OF THE YEAR
1. 79 The Amps-Pacer (11)
2. 39 Tarnation-Gentle Creatures (6)
3. 37 Kendra Smith-5 Ways (7)
4. 31 Belly-King (6)
5. 30 Liquorice-Listening Cap (6)
30 Scheer-Schism (5)
7. 27 Air Miami-Me,Me,Me (5)
8.24 The Wolfgang Press-F.L. Demons (3)
9.19 The Amps-Tipp City (4)
10. 13 Belly-Now They'll Sleep (2)
11. 12 Lisa Gerrard-The Mirror Pool (3)
12. 10 1996 Calendar (1)
13. 6 Kristin Hersh-The Holy Single (3)
6 Mojave 3-Ask Me Tomorrow (1)
15. 4 Facing The Wrong Way promo
16. 3 Think I'm Getting the Hang promo
17. 2 No Balls promo
18. 0 The Wolfgang Press-Going South
0 Throwing Muses-University
0 Red House Painters-Ocean Beach
0 Belly-Seal My Fate
BEST 4AD SONG OF THE YEAR
The results of this weren't too dramatic or interesting since people voted
for SO many different songs. 58 differnt songs received votes; many of them
only by 1 person for less than 10 points each.
1. 64 Lisa Gerrard-Sanvean (12)
2. 25 Mojave 3-Love Songs on the Radio (6)
3. 20 Throwing Muses-Bright Yellow Gun (2)
4. 19 The Wolfgang Press-Christianity (3)
5. 16 Kendra Smith-Valley of the Morning Sun (3)
6. 15 Red House Painters-Summer Dress (4)
7. 12 Throwing Muses-Snakeface (2)
8. 11 Air Miami-World Cup Fever
9. 10 Tarnation-The Well
10. 10 Belly-Thief (1)
10 Kendra Smith-Aurelia (1)
WORST 4AD SONG OF THE YEAR
Only 24 different songs voted on here.
1. 50 The Amps-Empty Glasses (5)
2. 37 The Amps-Tipp City (4)
3. 30 Belly-Now They'll Sleep (3)
30 Scheer-Sometimes (3)
5. 26 Kendra Smith-Bold Marauder (3)
6. 19 Kendra Smith-Maggots (3)
7. 17 Belly-Judas My Heart (3)
8. 10 Lisa Gerrard-La Bas (1)
10 Red House Painters-Summer Dress (1)
10 Scheer-Howling Boy (1)
10 The Wolfgang Press-Going South (1)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:58:57 +0100
There must have gone something wrong, because this is the way it should be:
BEST 4AD RELEASE OF THE YEAR
1. 79 The Amps-Pacer (11)
WORST 4AD RELEASE OF THE YEAR (EVER)
1. 82 Mojave 3-Ask Me Tomorrow (19)
Emiel Efdee
the Netherlands, February 18, 1996
... [email protected]
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 10:51:58 EST
>I just purchased what I believe to be the original pressing of
>the Rema-Rema 12", Wheel in the Roses (for $10) but I'm not sure
>if it is in fact the original pressing. In Lars' discog, it says
>that the original has a blue label which this does. It also has
>the 'flower' and 'flies' in the run-off grooves. Since it was
>listed in the 1994 catalogue, I assume the reissues were different
>but how? I'm also curious where the original falls into the
>'most-sought-after' list. I remember someone posted a list like
>this. if it's still around, could someone mail it to me. I'm not
>so much concerned about how much it is worth since I won't be selling
>it. And one more question: since I won't be able to listen to it
>for another month or so (when I get a new turntable), how is the
>version of 'Feedback Song' different from the version on Natures
>Mortes? I haven't listened to it in a while.
The repress has a grey label with the now familiar 4AD logo. No messages are on
the run-off grooves, and the sleeve also has the 4AD logo (which only appeared
c. 82-3). I would guess the original isn't worth that much, simply because the
repress is not yet out of print. Dunno about the differences between this
version of Feedback Song and the Natures Mortes version. If there even is one.
- Dez
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 10:06:46 -0800
Emiel Efdee reports:
>"Oliver's most recent venture, with the Los Angeles production company
>Satellite Films, has resulted in v23's first television commercials for
>clients Microsoft, Converse and Sony."
^^^^^^^^^
AAAAAAH! AAAAAAH! AAAAAAH! So v23 has joined the Rolling Stones in being
sucked into the Great Void Of Redmond. I suppose the new advertising
campaign for Microsoft BOB will feature rotting fruit and unreadable
typography. It could hardly be or do worse than the old ads.
It's just another sign of the End Times. Has Jack Chick written any comix
about Microsoft?
But thanks for the info, Emiel, and I'll add it to the FAQ.
__________ __________________
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Use the power of man
Support the flower of woman
Use the word: FUCK _______________________
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 10:06:43 -0800
jason suggests:
>I offer this to our "top ten things we could potentially add to the FAQ, that
>don't really belong there (because it's not 4AD related) but pop up from time
>to time" list.
It's been in the FAQ for probably 6 months or more, ever since the last
outbreak.
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 19:59:50 +0100
>Also, what does ESP sound like? Would it perchance resemble any of the =
>traditional Pale Saints material?
Not at all! It's minimalist, a lot of piano and pencil guitar, very few
electric guitar, and Warren samples...
the voice of Ian is really above the music, well hearable.
(this is for the ESP-Continent CD (=ESP-Summer Tape); I'm still waiting for
the ESP-Summer 25cm remixes... it's on the road...)
___
Laurent Lapierre |-,-|
[email protected] | - |
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 18:33:43 +0100
Haven't seen anything about this on the list - could be quite interesting...
at least as a novelty....
> > Well, the long awaited tribute CD to Willie Nelson is out, on Justice
> > Records. It features quite a few famous "alternative" bands, along with
> > a few not so famous, and a couple of guys names Johnny, Waylon & Kris
> > show up somewhere in the proceedings.
> >
> > I do not have the CD in question (yet), but I was able to hear some of
> > it at a local CD store the other day at a listening booth. It was not a
> > booth where you can select individual tracks - rather it played the disc
> > over and over again. Luckily I put the headphones on right near the end
> > to hear Kelly Deal with Kris Kristofferson doing "Angel Flying Too Close
> > to the Ground."
> >
> > This was an interesting listening experience. Kelly Deal is a member
> of
> > The Breeders (a popular alternative band), and her version (Kris doesn't
> > have a whole lot to do with it) is pretty different... The basic music
> > track is a pulsing industrial rhythm track (kinda like a machine pump
> > going over and over and over and over and over and over and over), never
> > changing, with Kelly singing the lyrics in a kind of lazy, sassy type of
> > way. There are no guitars. Just voice, machine noise, and the magnificent
> > harmonica of Kris Kristofferson playing quietly and subtlely in the deep
> > background. Finally, at the very end, one can hear Kris singing a verse
> > or two - only in one channel, mixed way down in the mix. It is "Angel
> > Flying Too Close to the Ground" like no other version you have ever heard!
> > I liked it, although I think it really only has novelty appeal.
Anyway, I am not going to buy this just for one track - however, a friend of
mine will probably order it, so I'll give it a listen..
++roland
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...only the madman is absolutely sure...
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:28:47 EST
Well, my hopes of trading the following pixies singles for TM stuff have been
dashed so my offer has transformed into an auction. "Monkey" has one bid at
$10 but the rest are wide open. I'd like to start at $5 a CD, postage inc.
Monkey Gone to Heaven (66706-2): Monkey..., Manta Ray, Weird at My School &
Dancing the Manta Ray
Dig for Fire (9 66596-2): Dig..., Velvety Instrumental Version, Winterlong &
Santo
Alec Eiffel (66444-2): Alec..., Letter to Memphis (Instrumental), Build High&
Evil Hearted You
**Letter is the album version except the vocal part is played on guitar**
Planet Of Sound (BAD 1008 CD): Planet..., Theme from Narc, Build High, Evil
Hearted You
Letter to Memphis (PRCD 8441-2): one song promo cd with album version and new
artwork
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 16:21:47 CST
>I'm also an obsessive Pale Saints fan (or at least getting there).
>
welcome. . .;)
>I've heard much commotion about Spoonfed Hybrid and ESP (etc.). If it =
>wouldn't be too much trouble, could you please describe those two =
>projects? I've heard many people describe the sound of Spoonfed Hybrid =
>as being like "Little Hammer" on In The Comforts Of Madness ... slow, =
>soft, experimental. Would you agree with that description?
esp summer/dolphins/continent is pretty much like laurent described it --
minimalist, accoustic, but beautiful and decent nonetheless. it took me
awhile to warm up to this one, but i'm sure that once i get the cd, it'll
find its way into my cd player a lot.
spoonfed hybrid is a bit more difficult to pin down. for one thing, it uses
a lot more synth than the pale saints. while the mood may be similar to
some ps compositions (little hammer is a good example), the music itself is
more varied. it's really dark in some spots (pocketful of dust), soars in
others (tiny planes), and lurks in others (lynched). i'd say spoonfed has
more emotion than pale saints and is smoother and prettier (though com and
mrs. dolphin remain my faves) than ps.
the scary verlaine 7" explores techno (don't know if they'll continue along
this vein or not. . .) on the title track while "the sun always changes my
mind," is more like the old material, but better (as i've mentioned before).
i'd rank 'em like this:
1. com and mrs. dolphin and the children break flexi, too.
2. spoonfed hybrid s/t lp
3. flesh balloons ep
4. scary verlaine/the sun always changes my mind 7"
5. in ribbons lp and throwing back the apple ep (hair shoes is still my
favorite ps song. . .)
6. esp summer/continent lp
7. esp summer 10"
8. slow buildings (very spotty, but king fade is quite good, imo.)
9. fine friend ep
i actually like all the above releases, so don't let the heirarchy mislead
you. if i had it to do over again, i'd buy the spoonfed stuff before the
esp stuff, but i'd still buy all of it (bad grammar. . .)
well, i've rambled on long enough. bye.
BiZ
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 16:56:35 -0800
I sort of remember hearing about a HNIA 7" some time ago. Does anyone
remember what label it was on or when it was supposed to be released??
Also, not to start an arguement, but I came to the realization last night
while listening to Pixies' "Surfer Rosa" that 4AD, TO ME, has been really
influential on today's music, but have gotten little recognition. The
albums/artists I BELIEVE changed the face of music, and without whom 4AD
would just be another boring independant record company woul have to be
1.Pixies - "Surfer Rosa"
2.Cocteau Twins - "Treasure"
3.His Name Is Alive - (All of their albums are sooo good, and sooo
different and unique it's impossible to pick out which one was the most
influential)
4.Throwing Muses - "House Tornado" (import version)
Although I am a big big fan of a lot of other 4AD bands (DCD, PALE
SAINTS, Lush, Mojave 3, Tarnation, Amps, Belly, Breeders, Air Miami,
Unrest, etc.) I truly believe that these bands really really changed the
face of music, and they changed my life, as corny as it may sound. So So
emotional! O.k., I'll stop pissing off everyone after I just say one
more thing. I only started getting into 4AD about 6 years ago. I know a
lot of you probably were a fan from the very beginning. I was just
wondering what the reactions were of those people when the label signed
Throwing Muses and Pixies. For some reason I am just fascinated by that
time period (86-88), when things were changing. I am sort of picturing
some elitists saying "That doesnt sound like 4AD, I hate it", much the
same way I can picture saying thast when Tarnation or Unrest/Air Miami
came aboard. O.k., I am probably making no sense, but I would just like
to get people's thoughts on these things...
Thanks,
Matt ([email protected])
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 16:17:02 -0800
If you still haven't heard, Throwing Muses, Tuesday,
at the Whisky.
The next night, our very own Elysium keeps up their
show-a-week schedule by playing at Priscilla's
in Burbank/Glendale. 4150 Riverside Dr. near Pass Ave.
The show will be a quiet, semi-acoustic one, with a special
appearance by Dan Murphy.
Have a better holiday than I'm having.
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| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 19:51:34 -0500
> And one more question: since I won't be able to listen to it
>for another month or so (when I get a new turntable), how is the
>version of 'Feedback Song' different from the version on Natures
>Mortes? I haven't listened to it in a while.
It's the same version.
CJ
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 19:52:57 -0500
More results for you all. Enjoy.
BEST 4AD GRAPHIC DESIGN OF THE YEAR
1. 107 Tarnation-Gentle Creatures (15)
2. 54 Mojave 3-Ask Me Tomorrow (11)
54 Lisa Gerrard-The Mirror Pool (8)
4. 41 Belly-King (7)
5. 19 Red House Painters-Ocean Beach (6)
6. 18 Kendra Smith-5 Ways (3)
7. 10 The Amps-Pacer (1)
8. 10 Kristin Hersh-The Holy Single (1)
9. 9 Throwing Muses-University (1)
10. 8 The Wolfgang Press-F.L. Demons (2)
BEST 4AD TYPOGRAPHY OF THE YEAR
1. 152 Tarnation-Gentle Creatures (18)
2. 53 Lisa Gerrard-The Mirror Pool (8) (3 list the program)
3. 34 Throwing Muses-University (4)
4. 20 The Amps-Pacer (2)
5. 16 Air Miami-Me,Me,Me (2)
6. 10 1996 Calendar (1)
7. 8 The Wolfgang Press-F.L. Demons (2)
8 Kendra Smith-5 Ways (2)
9. 5 4AD Web Page (1)
10. 4 The Amps-Tipp City (1)
11. 2 Mojave 3-Ask Me Tomorrow (1)
MOST PROMISING NEW ARTIST
1. 152-Mojave 3 (21)
2. 112-Tarnation (17)
3. 62-Air Miami (10)
4. 21-Scheer (6)
5. 14-Liquorice (5)
6. 8-The Amps (1)
7. 5-Kendra Smith (2)
8. 2-Lisa Gerrard (1)
BEST 4AD VIDEO OF THE YEAR
Not a lot of votes in this category; most people said that they either don't
watch TV or that they don't know of programs that carry 4AD videos. Has
ANYONE seen Kendra Smith's "Temporarily Lucy" video? I'm told one
exists...no votes though. The low number of votes here speak for themselves.
Too bad more people didn't see these; some of them are very well done. Or
so I've heard.
1. 30-Liquorice-Cheap Cuts (3)
2. 28-Belly-Superconnected (4)
3. 20-Throwing Muses-Bright Yellow Gun (3)
20-Lisa Gerrard-Sanvean (2)
20-Air Miami-I Hate Milk (2)
20-The Amps-Tipp City (2)
7. 7-Mojave 3-Love Songs on the Radio (1)
8. 5-Belly-Now They'll Sleep (1)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 21:31:26 -0500