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Subject: rema rema, etc.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:42:14 -0500
From: Susan Curran (susan@ACS.BU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Virus al leer el correo
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:46:31 +0100
From: "ARAGON BELMONTE, SERGIO" (sergio.aragon@MEST.UNIZAR.ES)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:54:32 -0600
From: mike lawyer (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Hey you people in New Mexico! - NON 4AD
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 23:04:15 -0500
From: Sandeep Vijan (svijan@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Jars of Clay
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 23:37:35 -0500
From: "Miller, Mark" (bcmilmea@BLUFFTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Andrew Norman
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:54:36 -0600
From: mike lawyer (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX?
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:54:08 -0600
From: mike lawyer (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Andrew Norman
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:26:00 CST
From: Lysa Bellott (dijitxs@MAILHOST.ACCESSCOM.NET)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:54:25 -0600
From: mike lawyer (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Softies/Elliot Smith review
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:47:19 -0800
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:04:23 +0000
From: "'H'y" (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: (idm) cosmic baby, "space track," where from?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 02:00:39 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: and another thing (lush)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 02:15:03 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: The 13 Year Itch / Muses
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 01:02:37 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: Anka Wolbert and Pieter Nooten
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 06:21:36 -0500
From: melochord 75 (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Andrew Norman
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:26:18 +0000
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 07:46:22 -0600
From: Jason (STDJXC01@SHSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA live!
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:01:00 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Livonia poster
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:32:04 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Compilations
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 15:53:01 +0100
From: leeuw@CWI.NL
Subject: Re: and another thing (lush)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:48:05 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: digest of this list?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:40:21 -0500
From: Robert Goodman (rgoo@JAXNET.COM)
Subject: Re: Jars of Clay
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:27:10 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Andrew Norman
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:52:14 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 08:51:20 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: The 13 Year Itch / Muses
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:52:14 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:52:14 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: Hey you people in New Mexico! - NON 4AD
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:26:26 -0500
From: "Miller, Mark" (bcmilmea@BLUFFTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Compilations
Date: Friday, February 16, 1996 5:10PM
From: 4ad recording artists list
Subject: Re: Livonia poster
Date: Friday, February 16, 1996 4:40PM
From: 4ad recording artists list
Subject: Re: Hey you people in New Mexico! - NON 4AD
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:30:34 -0600
From: "Michael C. Lawyer" (lawmic@HOMER.ACS.BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Hey you people in New Mexico! - NON 4AD
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:04:00 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: and another thing (lush)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:32:41 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Andrew Norman
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:54:39 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Melody maker/NME (Lush stuff)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:39:57 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:41:25 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Virus al leer el correo
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:28:34 -0600
From: "Michael C. Lawyer" (lawmic@HOMER.ACS.BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:54:41 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: all things spoonfed (esp, too!)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:28:37 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: a new CD for deleuzians, defeverians or both
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:35:14 EST
From: Sean Cooper (scooper@best.com)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX (or does he?)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:35:03 -0500
From: "Miller, Mark" (bcmilmea@BLUFFTON.EDU)
Subject: In defense of Xymox's "Phoenix of My Heart/Wild Thing Outro".
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:12:33 -0800
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: HNIA POSTERS WANTED
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:50:34 -0800
From: Lab User (labuser@DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX (or does he?)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:35:03 -0500
From: "Miller, Mark" (bcmilmea@BLUFFTON.EDU)
Subject: FAQ's [Re: digest of this list?]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:20:57 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Melody maker/NME (Lush stuff)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 18:15:10 -0600
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: HNIA live!
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:42:52 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Pixies = Black Francis
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:52:46 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: pre-spring cleaning auction update
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 18:42:07 -0500
From: Guernica@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: a new CD for deleuzians, defeverians or both
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:24:56 -0800
From: David Kim (kdavid@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: pre-4AD demos available
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 18:12:54 -0800
From: Lab User (labuser@DEPAUL.EDU)

Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:42:14 -0500
From: Susan Curran (susan@ACS.BU.EDU)
Subject: rema rema, etc.


> Does any diehard collector have interest in these?
>
> REMA REMA - The Wheel in the Roses 12"
> THROWING MUSES - The Fat Skier 12" (includes side-long version of "Soul
> Soldier", not included on the House Tornado/Fat Skier cd)

Just thought I'd let anyone know who's interested in these that "Wheel in the
Roses" is still in print through 4AD mail-order. (out of nostalgia, most
likely.) with 'fond affections', no less!

i'm not sure if 'fat skier' is still in print, but it's certainly not that
hard to find since it was released on sire over here.

Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:46:31 +0100
From: "ARAGON BELMONTE, SERGIO" (sergio.aragon@MEST.UNIZAR.ES)
Subject: Re: Virus al leer el correo


I think it was important:

>> > Virus Good Times en los e-mail:
>>
>>
>> >SUBJECT:  VIRUSES--IMPORTANT PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY
>> >
>> >       There is a computer virus that is being sent across the
>> > Internet.   If you receive an e-mail message with the subject
>> > line "Good  Times",   DO NOT  read  the  message,  DELETE it
>> > immediately.  Please read the messages below.  Some miscreant
>> > is sending  e-mail under  the title "Good Times" nation wide,
>> > if you get anything like this, DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It
>> > has a virus that  rewrites  your  hard  drive, obliterating
>> > anything on it.  Please be careful and forward this mail to
>> > anyone you care about.
>> >>********************************************************
>> > WARNING!!!!!!!  INTERNET VIRUS
>> >
>> >The FCC  released a warning last Wednesday concerning a
>> > matter of  major  importance  to  any  regular  user  of the
>> > Internet.     Apparently  a   new  computer  virus  has been
>> > engineered by  a user of AMERICA ON LINE that is unparalleled
>> > in its destructive capability.  Other more well-known viruses
>> > such as  "Stoned",  "Airwolf"  and  "Michaelangelo"  pale in
>> > comparison to  the prospects  of this  newest creation  by a
>> > warped mentality.   What makes this virus so terrifying, said
>> > the FCC,  is the  fact that  no program needs to be exchanged
>> > for a  new computer to be infected.  It can be spread through
>> > the existing e-mail systems of the Internet.  Once a Computer
>> > is infected,  one of  several things  can  happen.    If  the
>> > computer contains  a hard  drive, that  will most  likely be
>> > destroyed.   If the  program is  not stopped,  the computer's
>> > processor will be placed in an nth-complexity infinite binary
>> > loop -which can severely damage the processor if left running
>> > that way too long.
>> >       Unfortunately, most  novice  computer  users  will not
>> > realize what is happening until it is far too late. Luckily,
>> > there is one sure means of detecting what is now known as the
>> > "Good Times"  virus.   It always travels to new computers the
>> > same way  in a  text email  message  with  the  subject line
>> > reading "Good  Times".   Avoiding infection  is easy once the
>> > file has been received- not reading it!    The act of loading
>> > the file into the mail server's ASCII buffer causes the "Good
>> > Times" mainline program to initialize and execute.
>> >     The program is highly intelligent- it will send copies of
>> > itself to  everyone whose  e-mail address  is contained in a
>> > receive-mail file or a sent-mail file, if it can find one. It
>> > will then proceed to trash the computer it is running on. The
>> > bottom line  here is - if you receive a file with the subject
>> > line "Good  Times", delete  it immediately!   Do not read it"
>> > Rest assured  that whoever's  name was on the "From" line was
>> > surely struck  by the  virus.   Warn your  friends and local
>> > system users  of this newest threat to the Internet! It could
>> > save them a lot of time and money.
>>
>> *********************
>> Grace Greer
>> Office of Research
>> 221 CROB
>> (810)762-3180
>> ggreer@umich.edu
>> *********************
>>


sergio.aragon@mest.unizar.es


Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:54:32 -0600
From: mike lawyer (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX


>besides, we have yet to hear a true kim deal solo album. . .

I still waiting for that Tuba album that was promised so long ago.

Mike

<[me]>
<[{not you}]>

EOT
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 23:04:15 -0500
From: Sandeep Vijan (svijan@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Hey you people in New Mexico! - NON 4AD


Actually, I believe that Jars of Clay is based in Nashville - at least
that's what they said on MTV (they played the video just before they
interviewed Lush and played "Ladykillers", the new release). They are a
"Christian" band, whatever that means. The most recent single is
produced by Adrian Belew. "Flood", the single, is a catchy song, but I
found the rest of the tracks on the CD to be quite boring,
unfortunately.

sv

Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 23:37:35 -0500
From: "Miller, Mark" (bcmilmea@BLUFFTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Jars of Clay


Did you get to hear the whole album??????  Let me tell you it rocks!  I
highly recommend that you go out at get it.  Jars of Clay came to our
college a few months ago and I got to see them for two bucks, Mike Watt was
not with them then.  For being a so called "christian" band the sure don't
live up to the sterotype!

>Hello.
>I heard a really cool band
>from New Mexico called
>Jar of Clay.
>Anyone ever heard of them?
>Anyone got any info about
>them?
****************************************
Mark Miller Mark Miller Mark Miller
****************************************
bcmilmea@bluffton.edu

Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:54:36 -0600
From: mike lawyer (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Andrew Norman


>Breeders suck!!! Except for "Pod" which rocks your lame ass!!!
>
Actuall I just got my coppy of the Cannonball '93 bootleg which I must say
is absolutly amazing (Thank you Jonathan), perhaps last splash was not
their better album (but Pod is a tough act to follow) but their ep's are
good too from everything I've heard of them. I wouldn't say they suck
except for Pod, I'd just say that Last Splash is only very good, not pure
listining extasy like the rest of there albums (I'm showing my bias again
aren't I?)

Mike

<[me]>
<[{not you}]>

EOT
&


Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:54:08 -0600
From: mike lawyer (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX?


>Maybe he's spent, but Black Francis WAS Pixies.

I would have to disagree, true he wrote a lot of material for them, but he
could never have carried it with out Kim + Joey. Kim's backing and
occasional lead vocals is what helped keep the pixies albus out of basic
simple screaming noise (Frank Black snag with passion, but not melody) And
with out Joey's guitar work the pixies would be lost. Which raises an
intresting question, what would happen if Kim and Joey started touring
together? (aside from the planet self destructing from the pure bliss and
the world ending in aocoliptic sonic delight, but that's my bias)

Out of curiosity and too much other stuff to do I'm trying to compile a
nice biography of the pixies, if anyone has any interviews, funny stories,
pictures ect can they please mail them to me.


Mike

<[me]>
<[{not you}]>

EOT
&

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:26:00 CST
From: Lysa Bellott (dijitxs@MAILHOST.ACCESSCOM.NET)
Subject: Re: Andrew Norman


Fredrik wrote:

>>The Breeders second album is probably the best pop-album ever!!!
>>Ain=B4t got time to elaborate this right now so that=B4s it!

Then Jens wrote:
>
>I like the international flavo[u]r of this list; it shows us how, contrary
to what we often think, the US-of-A has no monopoly on bubbleheads.
>
>Breeders suck!!! Except for "Pod" which rocks your lame ass!!!
>
>Oops, that just slipped out.
>


I think that the point was lost somewhere along the way.  At least he
(Fredrik) qualified his opinion--instead of saying that the Breeders second
album is the greatest ALBUM ever, he said it is the greatest POP ALBUM ever.
That puts it into an entirely different realm.  If you think that Pod rocks
and Last Splash sucks then chances are you dislike pop music even in its
most brilliant form, i.e., Last Splash.

 such.]

Lysa

Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:54:25 -0600
From: mike lawyer (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX


>Actually, I think the seeds were there as early as "surfer rosa". It's
>a great album, but, especially lyrically, I don't think the songs are
>as consistently distinguished as those on "come on pilgrim", which is
>one of my very favorite releases ever. Then "Doolittle" is good, but
>not up to "surfer rosa" standards, etc. Pixies were a brilliant flash
>followed by one long fade to black, IMHO.

Oh nononononodyNO! I would dissagree! Tromp le monde has more than it's
share of brilliance, although I don't think Bossanova is their best album I
don't think it contains seeds of decline, I think they were simply
exploring a slightly altered approach to there music, I would instead say
the Pixies were one brilliant flash followed by a glorious (and
underapreciated) ride through sonic fields of screaminglove to rip off
another truly briliant 80's band with a bassist named Kim.

Mike

<[me]>
<[{not you}]>

EOT
&


Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:47:19 -0800
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Softies/Elliot Smith review


OK, this is only vaguely thislisty, so if you are a stickler for
4AD-PC-ness, then erase this message now.

The Softies, Emily's Sassy Lime, and Elliot Smith were to play the
UCSD Che cafe on Monday night, and it was a good show.  Basically,
Kill Rock Stars night (two other non-KRS acts played but I was
unimpressed).  I was really looking forward to hearing Orange
County's ESL, but they didn't seem to show.  Never heard why.
Maybe they got lost.

Elliot Smith (of Portland's Heatmiser) has two solo albums out with
just him and his acoustic guitar.  He definitely had that "I'm the
Gen X Neil Young" thing going.  He mumbled too much between songs,
but his guitar playing was spot on.  He even managed a Celtic sound
on several of the songs.  I couldn't make out much of the lyrics,
but he seemed rather depressed about things in general.

The Softies (Rose Melberg, ex-Tiger Trap, and Jen Sbragia) were
pretty cool.  Their voices go together really well and they played
a softer, quieter version of Rose's introspective, wounded-by-life,
pop sensibilities that she exhibited in the most-excellent Tiger
Trap.  Lotsa songs about lost love, asshole guys, etc.  Anybody
who digs cub, Heavenly, or PO! should dig the Softies.  They played
a very loose set, taking requests from the small, attentive audience
and basically having a good time.  If you get the chance to see
them, do.

BTW, does anybody know more about Jen Sbragia?  Something about
the way she played, sang, and just stood there that just screamed
"Amelia Fletcher"! (of Heavenly fame).  And since I adore AF, I'd
like to find out if Jen has other recordings.  Anybody know?

Reality


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:04:23 +0000
From: "'H'y" (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX


I think I must be one of the few people who likes all of the Pixies stuff.
Bossanova and Trompe Le Monde still excite/interest me. I can
remember when there were reports of the Pixies going 'metal' for TLM but
I couldn't see the connection. My dubbed tape copy (and I have the vinyl
aswell) had Bomb the Bass's Megablast stuck on the end of it so the
previous 40 mins were always enjoyed.

It was only when Frank went solo did things go a bit ropey. Especially
when I heard he wrote the lyrics in a couple of hours before he recorded
them.

To get an idea of how the Pixies would have sounded post-Trompe Le Monde
there's a bootleg of demos called Rough Diamonds going around which has
them doing
Hang on to Your Ego (with a drum machine I think). Plus a few other tracks.

'H'y

*****If you want to get into it - - - you've got to get out of it******

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 02:00:39 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: (idm) cosmic baby, "space track," where from?

EDU>

On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Derek Jordan wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, the boy in zinc wrote:
>
> > we'll try crossposting this one. . .
> >
> > the song i heard is called "space track."  what album/12"/CD5/etc. is this f
om?
> > is this the one on that 12" you mentioned, dave?  it's really damn familiar
> > and it's driving me NUTS!
>
> Trance Europe Express Vol. 1

Yes, and it is a wonderful, fun little song, and it is TOTALLY unlike
what other Cosmic Baby that I have heard, which is this wack piano shit.
Cheezy through and through. I've not heard everything of his, but this is
just to say LISTEN FIRST.


 e, who is very busy these days :(

(but still plays too much chrono trigger)

...and who is listening to beaumont hannant sunrise
to sunset anyone heard the new hannant/husik?

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 02:15:03 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: and another thing (lush)


I have been meaning to post a review for almost two weeks now, and I just
plain give up. I will never again have that kind of time on my hands, and
if I do I will waste it, so...

Single Girl is not a good indicator of the new Lush stuff. Lovelife is
wonderful. It totally rocks and is a solid album. It manages to be a
little bit funny at times and totally serious at others because the funny
stuff is so bitter. There is an air of seriousness to it, and the result
is that the album doesn't come apart in the way that Split sometimes did.
Generally the songs are very pretty, either in the classic Lush sense or
in a bright poppy way, but more interestingly there is an open air
feeling to some of the album, a quality I have difficulty describing but
always know when it's there. A dry, epic, regretful feeling that now and
then shows its face in everything from Fields of the Nephilim to Renegade
Soundwave (specifically in Pocket Porn). And actually Lush hit that note
often on Scar and Mad Love. Here is it most prominent on Runaway. But the
real gem of the album is Last Night, my early nomination for best song of
1996 and as good a piece of work as Lush have come up with since Scar, if
ever. Everything I love about Desire Lines, Untogether, Monochrome, and
other essential elements in there as well. It is a classic. Single Girl
is indeed the least impressive song on the album, but as such it doesn't
bother me. It's better than anything else on those singles and in this
context is it a lot more fun.

That's about all the time I have. Sorry for the cursory ramble but
considering the venom I spat at Single Girl I thought it appropriate that
I announce the complete and unconditional redemption of Lush as soon as
possible. :)

When did Starbucks start making good coffee? Wow.


e


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 01:02:37 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: The 13 Year Itch / Muses


I'm sure you've all heard this before - I will pay an atronomical amount
for this compilation, so if anybody has extra copies let us know at the

Thanks to all those who put me onto University. Great Album. I am missing
HunkPapa, The Real Ramona and Red Heaven (although I have Curse).
The thread on the list has been "a diversion in quality regarding these above
albums). But I would imagine they are worth getting??

The bloke at the shop reckoned the new muses LP will be out later this month /
early March. If it follows in University's footsteps - YES Please.

Keep on dreaming blah blah fade to black yabba yabba
Chris

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 06:21:36 -0500
From: melochord 75 (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Anka Wolbert and Pieter Nooten


This has been bothering me for some time and I'd just like to get it
print and never been quite sure which was right.

Larry


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:26:18 +0000
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Andrew Norman


Lysa Bellott wrote:

> That puts it into an entirely different realm.  If you think that Pod rocks
> and Last Splash sucks then chances are you dislike pop music even in its
> most brilliant form, i.e., Last Splash.

Oooh. I hope you're not talking about Jens, as I know he's a Stereolab
fan. That's pop music in it's most brilliant form...

> [WARNING:  The preceding statement is an OPINION and should be read as such.]

Well that's all right then ;)

Umm...I'm putting up some Mojave 3 pages over the weekend. If you have
any spare reviews, rants or anything...send it to me. I'll nudge you
when I'm finished.

--
Jon Kvebaek    http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceejok

Teleport and exteriorization equipment can be constructed by any boy
mechanic in his basement workshop. References are 'Collected Works of
Willam Reich', 'Journeys Out of the Body' by Robert A. Monroe.
                             - William S. Burroughs, "Port of Saints"


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 07:46:22 -0600
From: Jason (STDJXC01@SHSU.EDU)
Subject: (no subject)


Does anyone know the lyrics to any Shelleyan Orphan Albums, I
have looked everywhere.


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:01:00 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: HNIA live!

>

I can offer independent verification of the radness of ABE'S coney island
in ypsilanti.  check it out after the show, as theyre open late (24hrs?)

dan


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:32:04 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Livonia poster


hey! im i've been looking forever for the LIVONIA poster which came in
the v23 poster tube a few years back.  it features artwork not included
on the sleeve, and i really, really wanna get one. if anyone is willing
to sacrifice or knows where one could be acquired, id be as happy as a
little girl

dan

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 15:53:01 +0100
From: leeuw@CWI.NL
Subject: Re: Compilations


I am interested in getting a copy of the 13 year itch form you.
How much do you want for it?

Greetings,

Andre


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:48:05 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: and another thing (lush)


e recants:
>Single Girl is not a good indicator of the new Lush stuff. Lovelife is
>wonderful. It totally rocks and is a solid album.
..
>When did Starbucks start making good coffee? Wow.

I think this shows the valuable lesson that it's important for e to get
plenty of caffeine into his system before he starts writing reviews. A
few more grande espresso macchiatos and he'd have been raving
(positively) about the Projekt Xmas comp too, no doubt.

And check out those chocolate-mint madeleines they have (at least at my
local Starbucks); they're killer.

So who's going to start flaming e for _liking_ Lush now? Flaming him for
panning Lush was so popular last month, I recall.

[Absolutely no 4AD content, sorry. I'd review the wonderful "Planet
Squeezebox" box set -- 3 CDs of accordion music from around the globe!!!
-- but it's even less thislisty than my above ravings. I haven't plugged
Bark Psychosis in a while, have I? No, let's give it a rest.]

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:40:21 -0500
From: Robert Goodman (rgoo@JAXNET.COM)
Subject: digest of this list?


I am a new subscriber to the list, and have a question. Can this list come
in a digest form? I am on several other lists and only get one mail packet a
day with everyone's new messages in one long digest. This makes things much
simpler. Can the 4AD list come this way?(and how do i switch to this
method?) Thanks for any help!

rgoo
This is a simple sig file


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:27:10 -0600
From: Jason Marc Morehead (00161068@BIGRED.UNL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Jars of Clay


hello...

     with the messaages concerning JARS OF CLAY, i thought i'd mention
their home page.  it's at

     http://www.jarsofclay.com/

and it's pretty nice, with interviews, photoes, and the usual stuff.
and they are Christians, in fact they got their record deal through a
gospel music comeptition...just a little trivia.

jason

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:52:14 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: Andrew Norman


Lysa wrote:
> I think that the point was lost somewhere along the way.  At least he
> (Fredrik) qualified his opinion--instead of saying that the Breeders second
> album is the greatest ALBUM ever, he said it is the greatest POP ALBUM ever.
> That puts it into an entirely different realm.  If you think that Pod rocks
> and Last Splash sucks then chances are you dislike pop music even in its
> most brilliant form, i.e., Last Splash.
>
What would ever make you think that _Pod_ wasn't a pop album?  And
truly a FAR FAR better one than the half-baked _Last Splash_ (which
actually tends to more of a "rock" sound than _Pod_.

moran@hal-pc.org

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 08:51:20 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: (no subject)


> Does anyone know the lyrics to any Shelleyan Orphan Albums, I
> have looked everywhere.

They're ALL available:

Helleborine lyrics in the UK CD booklet
Century Flower lyrics on the UK vinyl inner sleeve (probably CD too)
   but not in the US CD booklet
Humroot lyrics in the US CD booklet

When I'm bored sometime I'll type them in.

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| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:52:14 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: The 13 Year Itch / Muses


> Thanks to all those who put me onto University. Great Album. I am missing
> HunkPapa, The Real Ramona and Red Heaven (although I have Curse).
> The thread on the list has been "a diversion in quality regarding these above
> albums). But I would imagine they are worth getting??
>
While _The Real Ramona_ and especially _Red Heaven_ can certainly be
lived without, I would say that _Hunkpapa_ is a good and important
album to place in your TM collection.  In fact, my first exposure to
TM came from a tape fellow listmember Darryl Roy made for me, with
_House Tornado_ and _Hunkpapa_.  I think I preferred the latter at
the time.

moran@hal-pc.org

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:52:14 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX


The obvious thing to state here is that every band is a sum of its
members, whether or not those members actually get song-writing
credit.  Look at TM, for example.  Leslie Langston never wrote a
single song, but the sound of the band clearly changed after she
left, and never recovered from the loss of her melodic bass playing.

As for Kim Deal being some sort of goddess, I could easily make the
argument that Tanya Donelly is the true genius.  After all, while
_Pod_ was a quite good album, and _Safari_ was an excellent EP (if
you discount "So Sad About Us", _Last Splash_ was an album whose
ideas, if they ever bothered to complete them, made no effort to go
somewhere interesting.

One could easily go on forever with this thread I suppose... (as
several listmembers have said it did on one of the newsgroups) so
I'll just shut up now.

moran@hal-pc.org

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:26:26 -0500
From: "Miller, Mark" (bcmilmea@BLUFFTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Hey you people in New Mexico! - NON 4AD


Sandeep, I am curious as to how you can say that the rest of the jars of
clay album is boring.  The are not out of Nashville they are out of texas.
And the rest of the album is not boring just more relaxed that "Flood".  In
my opinion this is quite possibly one of the best "christian" bands that I
have ever heard.
****************************************
Mark Miller Mark Miller Mark Miller
****************************************
bcmilmea@bluffton.edu


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:30:00 +0000
From: Nick Hill (NHill@MSMAIL.CSL.GPT.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Compilations


I've had so much interest in the CD and video I intend to auction them.

Please send you offer by return

Nick
 ----------
From: 4ad recording artists list
Subject: Re: Compilations

Date: Friday, February 16, 1996 5:10PM I am interested in getting a copy of the 13 year itch form you. How much do you want for it? Greetings, Andre

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:35:00 +0000
From: Nick Hill (NHill@MSMAIL.CSL.GPT.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Livonia poster


I'm sure i've got a spare copy which I'm willing to sell you.  I'll check
when I get home

Nick
 ----------
From: 4ad recording artists list
Subject: Re: Livonia poster

Date: Friday, February 16, 1996 4:40PM hey! im i've been looking forever for the LIVONIA poster which came in the v23 poster tube a few years back. it features artwork not included on the sleeve, and i really, really wanna get one. if anyone is willing to sacrifice or knows where one could be acquired, id be as happy as a little girl dan

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:30:34 -0600
From: "Michael C. Lawyer" (lawmic@HOMER.ACS.BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Hey you people in New Mexico! - NON 4AD


>From what I've heard Jars of Clay is a christian band oppening for Michael W.
Smith (gag gag wretch) saterday in the twin cities, I haven't heard any of
there stuff, but i'm less than impressed with their tour mate (he makes me ill)

mike
EOT
&


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:04:00 -0500
From: daniel klyn (owilde@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Hey you people in New Mexico! - NON 4AD


On Fri, 16 Feb 1996, Miller, Mark wrote:

> Sandeep, I am curious as to how you can say that the rest of the jars of
> clay album is boring.  The are not out of Nashville they are out of texas.
> And the rest of the album is not boring just more relaxed that "Flood".  In
> my opinion this is quite possibly one of the best "christian" bands that I
> have ever heard.

as long as we're feeling compelled to establish just whether or not jars
of clay are or are not boring, relaxed, christian...  i saw their new
video on mtv the other night and i changed the channel to cspan after
about two minutes. utter shite. oh, and just so'z i can use this nifty
expression, they're not AT ALL thislisty, and I move to bar further
discussion of them, their music, their lame video, and/or their religious
affiliation.


p.s. if i were their god, i'd send them back to hell (texas?)

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:32:41 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: and another thing (lush)


 It's better than anything else on those singles and in this
>context is it a lot more fun.
Did you hear Sweetie from the 7" it's rules! They should let chris
write more songs.


>When did Starbucks start making good coffee? Wow.

I should go there sometime, there's like 8 in Oceanside alone.

I guess us lush bashers will be the ones who like the album most.

Anyone heard of a band called Soap Joh Henshi? Their a japenese band
from New York on Scratch Records.


                                            Brian

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:54:39 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Andrew Norman


Lysa Bellott wrote:
> That puts it into an entirely different realm.  If you think that Pod rocks
> and Last Splash sucks then chances are you dislike pop music even in its
> most brilliant form, i.e., Last Splash.

Nuh-uhh! Pop music in its most brilliant form is one of:
 * early XTC (up through '82)
 * They Might Be Giants
 * The Maestro, Juan Garcia Esquivel

What maded Pod brilliant was that it was such a weird, messed-up take on
pop music; kind of an alternarock Shaggs. By the time of Last Splash Kim
had just learned too much about pop music and it came off as normal; and
the fact is she just isn't very good at writing pop songs, at least no
better than most of the currently-popular alternarock bands. I quite
frankly liked Veruca Salt's overplayed hit single better than anything on
"Last Splash". Ha, string me up for that one...
I've heard that most of the songs on Pod were written when Kim was in
high school. Is this actually true? If so, it would explain a lot.

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:39:57 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Melody maker/NME (Lush stuff)


    Which magazine had the poster where Lush were holding their boobas?
And if so does that magazine offer back copies?

                        (on a related note)

    Would anyone want to trade for  the Lush '88 demos? The person I
traded got me the '89 demos. Which are still good but they aren't the
'88 demos.

                                    Brian!

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:41:25 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX


>> Oh nononononodyNO! I would dissagree! Tromp le monde has more than it's
share of brilliance, although I don't think Bossanova is their best album I
don't think it contains seeds of decline, I think they were simply
exploring a slightly altered approach to there music, I would instead say
the Pixies were one brilliant flash followed by a glorious (and
underapreciated) ride through sonic fields of screaminglove to rip off
another truly briliant 80's band with a bassist named Kim. <<

        Indeed... how can you not like Trompe? It simply rocks, and
that's good enough for me. The ensemble playing was tighter than it had ever
been, and the songs, one after another, are just great.
        I don't like Bossanova nearly as much, partly the production,
which attempts to make it sound spacious, but just comes across as
metallic; and I'm not too fond of those warbling sounds that always seem
to pop up in that album.

                          =>} End CD tyranny. {<=

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:28:34 -0600
From: "Michael C. Lawyer" (lawmic@HOMER.ACS.BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Virus al leer el correo


The virus is a hoax, we had the same thing all over our local netword a couple o
 days ago, the GOOD TIMES VIRUS is a complete and uter hoax, there are no messag
s containing virus
it's impossible to do that sort of thing wiht todays technology, sorry to have t
 waste bandwith with this correction, the people who started this hoax have
fooled lots of innocent computer users into a panic, it's really kind of
anoying

mike

EOT
&

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:54:41 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX


>As for Kim Deal being some sort of goddess, I could easily make the
>argument that Tanya Donelly is the true genius.  After all, while
>_Pod_ was a quite good album, and _Safari_ was an excellent EP (if
>you discount "So Sad About Us", _Last Splash_ was an album whose
>ideas, if they ever bothered to complete them, made no effort to go
>somewhere interesting.

i like safari the best, so i think it must be that donelly/kelly deal
combo ;)

BiZ, who ironically is wearing his last splash shirt today

"some fantasy you've been."
     -ride

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:28:37 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: all things spoonfed (esp, too!)


i got my japanese spoonfed cd today (thanks masaya!).  in recent days, i
haven't had much money, and i was starting to question plunking down $35 in
tapes and postage for two songs, but i'm glad i did.  now i have the luxury
of having messers. hyde and bullets and bees on cd!  (ok, so i bought the
vinyl for the free 7" ok?  i'm pathetic.)  not only that, but the japanese
version comes with a lyrics sheet (in english and japanese).

my mrs. dolphin came w/ what i'm assuming is a japanese lyrics sheet, can
anyone japanese (or who speaks the language) confirm this?

the record collector now has copies of esp continent.  ordered mine today.

well, that's about it.  i just wanted to gloat about finally having a copy
of the japanese spoonfed cd.

later,

BiZ

"i have measured out my life in coffee spoons. . ."
     -t.s. eliot

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:35:14 EST
From: Jeffrey_Burrows@STRATHKELVIN.CCMAIL.COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject: a new CD for deleuzians, defeverians or both


Hi


got this from another list.


As an in-between-the-way comment, Blue Nile have a new CD out on May 28th: no
title yet, but sports 10 tracks and is on the Warner Brothers label. There's an
article in today's paper Glasgow Herald, the electronic version may have the
text too (web address www.sims.co.uk)


back to the deleuzian CD release from sub rosa ...


From: Sean Cooper (scooper@best.com) hello. it is my belief that some people on this list would be interested to know that a cd entitled "folds and rhizomes for gilles deleuze" has just been released through the experimental music label sub rosa, who have released albums in the past by fred frith, bill laswell, nick bullen, david shea and other members of what could be termed the contemporary instrumental and electro-acoustic avant-garde. the album (cat. no. sr99) features contributions from the more youthful end of that categorization, including mouse on mars, main, oval, scanner, and hazan + shea. all of these artists in one capacity or another (with the possible exception of shea) represent something of the new guard of experimental composers, drawing equally from the tropospheres of electro-acoustic, musique concrete, classical, techno, ambient, and other microgenres of contemporary electronic music, tying these disparate stylistic components together in assemblages that often share a striking affinity with the work of delezue and deleuze and guattari. indeed, most of the tracks on "folds and rhizomes" deal in one way or another with some of the conceptual concerns of deleuze (although rarely overtly); as label founder guy marc hinant writes in the sleeve notes, "obviously this is not an official tribute to this great figure, one of the foremost of our time. it is only the fraternal salute of a few young people who admire him deeply; and who, better still, were one day helped in their lives and in their creations by his writings." it is, obviously, the work of a number of philosophers (in the deleuzean sense)--young ones be they--attemping, as deleuze did, to _do_ a kind of philosophy that could be played, as a record. the disc's status as a "tribute album," however (even as it is denied), goes much further than the simple fact of its release. i have been in communication in connection with this album's release (i've known about it for some weeks) with robin rimbaud, who records under the name scanner and whose composition "control: phantom signatures with active bandwidth" is included on "folds and rhizomes." rimbaud explained to me that the idea for the album came as a result of contact that was made between the sub rosa label and deleuze himself. according to rimbaud, sub rosa sent deleuze a number of cds from some of the artists featured on "folds and rhizomes," as well as some other of sub rosa's back catalog releases. (some of these artists, some may also be intrigued to know, have also recorded in the past for a label called mille plateaux, which i trust needs no explanation here.) deleuze was, apparently, quite impressed with the work of these musicians, and wrote back to the label thanking them for the cds and inquiring as to where further recordings of that type could be obtained. it was then that certain of sub rosa's staff decided that perhaps an album released in gratitude to deleuze's life contributions would be a nice idea. contributions were commissioned from certain artists (presumably those deleuze found most interesting...?) with the idea in mind that, upon the project's completion, the disc would be presented to deleuze in some official way by either the label or the artists or both. deleuze's suicide, however, intervened in the process, and the project was not completed in time to present deleuze with the token. nonetheless, the cd has been released, and it is quite good. although it's questionable to what extent many listmembers would "enjoy" the music in an aesthetic sense, based on the lack of familiarity i'm assuming they have with the conceptual and stylistic palette of many of these artists (e.g. the music of mouse on mars, for example, does not require knowledge of the history of jamaican dub and its anglo-american antecedents, as well as the electronic experiments of cage, berio, stockhausen, etc. to be enjoyed, although that knowledge may make the conceptual work being done by their track "subnubus" more rich and engaging upon repeated listening); i think if for nothing else than the novelty of such a project many would find the cd an interesting and valuable acquisition. i can think of no other occasion when the vanguard of an experimental youth movement has pooled its creative talents in order to pay tribute to such a momental figure in western intellectual history as deleuze, and in a way which at some level involved deleuze personally (even if it didn't quite work out that way in the end). a particularly enjoyable, i think, and needless to say conceptually very interesting assemblage has been constructed here, one which opens a great many new possibilities not only for deleuze's thought but for philosophy (again, in the deleuzean sense) in general. thanks you for your time. and no, i'm not a functionary of sub rosa, mille plateaux, or any of the above-mentioned artists. i'm one of those young people who've been touched by the work of deleuze, and one who sees value in the proliferation of conceptual apparati in contexts in which they would perhaps otherwise not normally be found. feel free to contact me if you have any questions regarding any of the above. sc ======================================================================== jey burrows *** http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jey ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 'If, instead of seeking "the poem" hidden "somewhere behind" the poet engages himself to the service of a truth known from the outset, he has renounced the mission of poetry. And it matters little whether the preconceived truth is called revolution or dissidence, Christian faith or atheism, whether it is more or less justified; a poet who serves any truth other than the truth *to be discovered* (which is *dazzlement*) is a false poet' Milan Kundera, _The Art of the Novel: Somewhere Behind_ -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:35:03 -0500
From: "Miller, Mark" (bcmilmea@BLUFFTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX (or does he?)


The Pixies:  They are by far one of my favorite bands of all time,  but
there as been a lot of discussion as of late trying to decide who made the
band.  I thing one of the things that made the pixies so great throughout
all of their albums (and yes some were not as good as others but that will
happen after you put out multipul albums) was the blending of their
individual chaos.  I mean the fact is that they are a great band (right?)
and being a band there really is not supposed to be one shining star, in my
opinion bands = blend, and the pixies did that to perfection.  I saw the
pixes open for U2 a few years back and let me tell you they kicked ass, and
they are much tighter in concert than I ever would have thought.
****************************************
Mark Miller Mark Miller Mark Miller
****************************************
bcmilmea@bluffton.edu

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:12:33 -0800
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: In defense of Xymox's "Phoenix of My Heart/Wild Thing Outro".


On Wed, 14 Feb 1996 nelson@TRIFID.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU wrote:

> I've always thought that after Twist Of Shadows
> Xymox turned into Roxette. No band that does a
> cover of Wild Thing can be taken seriously.

        Let me step up and say that I love Xymox's _Phoenix_ album.
One misses some great music only listening to music that is to "be taken
seriously."
        Personally, I'll take Xymox's "Phoenix of My Heart/Wild Thing Outro"
or TWP's "Mama Told Me Not To Come" or "Respect" over Dead Can Dance's
"I Am Stretched On Your Grave" any day.  (No slur on Sinead in the least.)
        Just a humble opinion,
        David.


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:50:34 -0800
From: Lab User (labuser@DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: HNIA POSTERS WANTED


I was wondering if anybody had any hnia posters?!  It doesnt matter which
one, i just want one!

Thank,
Matt (skaoioi@aol.com)

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:35:03 -0500
From: "Miller, Mark" (bcmilmea@BLUFFTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX (or does he?)


The Pixies:  They are by far one of my favorite bands of all time,  but
there as been a lot of discussion as of late trying to decide who made the
band.  I thing one of the things that made the pixies so great throughout
all of their albums (and yes some were not as good as others but that will
happen after you put out multipul albums) was the blending of their
individual chaos.  I mean the fact is that they are a great band (right?)
and being a band there really is not supposed to be one shining star, in my
opinion bands = blend, and the pixies did that to perfection.  I saw the
pixes open for U2 a few years back and let me tell you they kicked ass, and
they are much tighter in concert than I ever would have thought.
****************************************
Mark Miller Mark Miller Mark Miller
****************************************
bcmilmea@bluffton.edu

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:20:57 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: FAQ's [Re: digest of this list?]


Robert Goodman wrote:
>I am a new subscriber to the list, and have a question. Can this list come
>in a digest form? I am on several other lists and only get one mail packet a

This is a very frequently asked question and as such is covered in the
FAQ for this list. Please read:


I hope people will take a peek at the FAQ before posting questions that
might already be answered therein. (And if there's something not covered
in the FAQ that is getting asked a lot, let me know.)

As an example of the above, there's been SO MUCH discussion of the "ESP
____" stuff that I would love to see a mini-FAQ on it that I could point
my FAQ at. Anyone want to do this? Please?

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                   Support the flower of woman
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 18:15:10 -0600
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: Melody maker/NME (Lush stuff)


On Fri, 16 Feb 1996, Scott, Mari & Brian wrote:

>     Which magazine had the poster where Lush were holding their boobas?
> And if so does that magazine offer back copies?
>
"Boobas?" Aren't we all grown-ups here?

Martin

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:42:52 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: HNIA live!


In a message dated 96-02-16 09:53:00 EST, you write:

>I can offer independent verification of the radness of ABE'S coney island
>in ypsilanti.  check it out after the show, as theyre open late (24hrs?)
>
>dan
>
>

cool, anyone want to meet after the show???

i for one, will be there!  perhaps Warren would like to come along (?)

-blubelknol@aol.com

 to all you West coasters who have been enjoying Brant's shows for
the past eon... now we finally have something!
(this is of course, just a joke!)


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:52:46 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Pixies = Black Francis


To this day and forevermore I will always
consider that the Pixies = Black Francis,
just as Throwing Muses = Kristin Hersh,
Belly = Tanya Donnelly, and until recently
Pale Saints = Ian Masters; ie. take away
the lead singer and it's not the same band.
After all, all Kim Deal did was play the
bass and sing a few songs. That's my opinion,
take it or leave it.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 18:42:07 -0500
From: Guernica@AOL.COM
Subject: pre-spring cleaning auction update


well, a little over a week into this and I have the following *reasonable*
(sorry, I'm not accepting bids of $2 for the LIAE thingie, so don't waste
yours or my time please) high bids (with first part of e-mail names so you
know if you're the high bid and at the same time not divulging your entire
e-address to unwanted solicitors):

Red House Painters - "Shock Me" e.p.
    $10-JHH8513
Various - "All Virgo's Are Mad" Still Sealed (2 available)
    --no bids--
Insides - "Clearskin" 1 sealed, 1 mint (i.e. brand new, without the shrink
wrap)
    $12-JHH8513
Smiths - "Louder Than Bombs" (CD) excellent cond.
    --no bids--
Doom Soundtrak (CD) case crack, otherwise mint
    --no bids--
Enchanted - 4 track promo (jewel case is drilled in back into the UPC code)
    --no bids--
Various - "Rare on Air...Volume2"  jewel case crack, otherwise mint.
    --no bids--
Swallow - "Blow" still sealed
   $8-brettg
blacktapeforabluegirl - "this lush garden within" small case crack, otherwise
mint as well
   $9-bgmutz
TMC - "Come here my love" 10" - rare
    --no bids--
Madder Rose - "Panic On" spine drilled - artwork intact.
    --no bids--
hisnameisalive - "In Every Ford" 4AD(US) 5-track promo...jewel case is
cracked
    --no bids--
Swallow - "Blowback" mint-
    $20-JHH8513
Various - "...think I'm Getting the hang of it"  mint+
    --no bids--
Various - "Mai Pen Rai" mint+
    $40-pepegtc

Lonely Is An Eyesore  deluxe gatefold edition (12")this thing is absolutely
beautiful and mint

    --still no bids-- !!!!!!!


please remember to include postage in your offers... thanks!

-guernica@aol.com

p.s. for the conveinience of those who read their e-mail once a week, i'll
run this auction thingie until the end of the month.

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:24:56 -0800
From: David Kim (kdavid@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: a new CD for deleuzians, defeverians or both


        I was wondering if anyone had that listproc address, as i seem to
be in need of it now.  thank you very much.

        kdavid@u.washington.edu

        (I would really appreciate all the listproc addresses for the 4ad
group, in case there are more than one.)


Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 18:12:54 -0800
From: Lab User (labuser@DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: pre-4AD demos available


I have some very nice pre-4AD demos and early shows by some of 4AD's
greatest american bands.  Here's some of the stuff I have available, or
am getting soon.  I will also trade tapes, just E-Mail me about them @

1.Breeders - Pre "Pod" material, with David Narcizo (Throwing Muses
drummer) on drums.  Some of the songs, besides the "Pod" songs, are
alternate versions of the Pixies' "Silver" (with Tanya doing backing
vocals), "Drivin' on 9", and early early version of what appears to be
"Divine Hammer", and one song that was never released, and doesnt sound
like anything that has been released yet(but it happens to be the best
song on the demo).  Also included the first john peel session, and two
live shows w/ Tanya before "Pod" came out.  This is really great
material, and not bad sounding, too! $10

2.Throwing Muses - Pre 4AD Material.  I am getting the tape next week,
put supposedly it is really really good. $10

3.Pixies - 1986 Demos - really really good stuff..doing stuff from come
on pilgrim, all the way to early as hell "Trompe Le Monde" stuff.  It's
good good!  But I don't have it yet, I'll get it in a couple weeks...
$10

If any of these tickle your fancy, just E-Mail me.  Also, I have some
extra copies of a couple 4AD CD's that will go pretty quickly.  I don't
know how much this stuff is worth, so just send me your bids:

Lush  "Scar"LP
Throwing Muses "Red Heaven" Double CD w/ Kristen Hersh LIVE
His Name Is Alive "King of Sweet"  (you better hurry on this one)
All Virgos Are Mad comp.
ESP Beetles/Jennifer Wolski 7" (Warren Defever)

That's all for now...

Matt


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