Subject: Re: A Postmodern HNIA
Subject: Re: Blue Nile
Subject: Re: Compilations
Subject: NON 4AD: Desperately Seeking BLACK ROBE SOUNDTRACK
Subject: Re: cosmic baby? (techno talk -- be warned)
Subject: Re: Salt tour of the US (Non-4AD)
Subject: mercury rev tapes
Subject: Love Spirals D shows in Mexico
Subject: Frank Black SUX
Subject: Re: HNIA live!
Subject: Andrew Norman
Subject: Anka Wolbert and Pieter Nooten
Subject: 4ad-pics on jhuvm.hcf.jhu.edu;where now?
Subject: Frank Black SUX?
Subject: Re: Andrew Norman
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX
Subject: cosmic baby, "space track," where from?
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX
Subject: Compilations
Subject: Galaxie 500
Subject: Auction???
Subject: Aberdeen split
Subject: Re: Salt tour of the US (Non-4AD)
Subject: fax in the us
Subject: Re: A Postmodern HNIA (fwd)
Subject: Re: Andrew Norman
Subject: Re: HNIA live!
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX
Subject: Anka Wolbert and Pieter Noo
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX
Subject: Re: (idm) cosmic baby, "space track," where from?
Subject: Hey you people in New Mexico! - NON 4AD
Subject: Re: HNIA live!
Subject: Re: 4ad-pics on jhuvm.hcf.jhu.edu;where now?
Subject: Re: Frank Black SUX
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:38:30 -0700
Gentlemen--
I must concur! I enjoy a good scholarly read, but these fundamental
errors are ridiculus. S/he must have given the album a listen based on some
friends opinion, and then, engaged by HNIA's stuff, wrote like a madwo/man.
After finishing the "piece," s/he must have looked at the back of the
import disc for the label/distributer and found the 4AD-UK address. I'm sorry
but for the tone s/he assumes in this essay that's just poorbad scholarship.
scholarship.
Really, if a fundamental premise of an essay is based on a friend's
inability to communicate the true information or reading the back of a CD--OI-VE
Imagine the direction the essay would have taken had s/he known that they
were from Lavonia, Michigan. Basically, this work, ironically for its erudite
tone, contradicts itself at the most fundamental level when discussing the
contrast between American Zorn and HNIA--when they are both American!
Somebody de-pant that cheap excuse for a scholar. Intelligently woven
thoughts and trendy post-modern analytic language or not, this bit is as bad as
when I tried to write about Stalingrad in 3rd grade--based on pictures!
Brett
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 01:51:02 GMT
I have a Blue Nile CD-3 for "The Downtown Lights" that contains a couple
unreleased tracks, "The Wires Are Down" (a track that probably never made it
to Hats) and an instrumental called "Halfway To Paradise". I also saw a
single for "Saturday Night" that contained a live version of the song. I
still kick myself for not buying that one.
Its great to hear that they are working on some new material. The last thing
I saw them do was one track on Marie Brennan's solo album. Before that, it
was a track on Robbie Robertson's "Storyville" album.
Robert,
Winnipeg, CANADA
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 22:13:21 -0800
Recently I saw Lilliput CD Set at a store in Berkeley. It costs $225.
I have asked to look at it. It is very nice, but absolutely don't
worth that much. I have tried to negotiate the price, but no luck.
Personally I think the design of "Lonely is an eyesore deluxe vinyl
edition" is much better than Lilliput.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 00:00:48 -0800
I am searching for the soundtrack to BLACK ROBE. If you
have this or can get it, please let me know.
Thanks.
Skye
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 12:58:58 -0500
i have a cosmic baby 12" where they give the works to the bladerunner
themesong. btw, the bladerunner soundtrack is fucking great. go buy it now.
dave "who's your daddy" sargent
[email protected]
On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, the boy in zinc wrote:
> can anyone tell me anything about cosmic baby? i heard a song by them
> today (something space -- i forget the title), and it was absolutely
> brilliant. my friend that taped it for me got it off a v/a disc, but i'd
> like to know if they have anything else available. it sounded really
> familiar (like someone had used it in a movie/tv show or something. . .)
> anyway, any info would be appreciated.
>
> thanks,
>
> BiZ
>
> "in the bed where they make love, she's in a film on the sheets.
> he shows dreams like a movie, she's the softness of cinema seats. . ."
> -st. etienne "pale movie"
>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:57:41 -0800
> Their sound is best described by their label (MVG/Island):
> "From the moment the dissonant album-opening improvisation fades into the
> wiry carnality of "Honour Me", it's evident that Salt aren't likely to
> conform to easily-delineated, alterna-rock standards. Salt's spartan
> playing informs songs like "Beauty" with a compelling astringency, while
> Nina's commanding vocal presence mandates undivided attention."
Does this quote actually say anything?
Mike
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:39:07 EST
hey,
i haven't mailed your tapes yet because i'm still waiting to get the video
from my friend. he wants me to come visit him, and i think he's holding
off until then. i'll call him and get him to mail it, or maybe i'll make
a road trip next weekend.
anyway, i found a copy of the 'something for joey' promo single. it has
five songs: 'something for joey', the thing they did with the composer
(i think this is from the 10" you have), live versions of 'very sleepy rivers'
and another song i forget, and an interview with ron jeremy(i guess this isn't
a song, but very funny). i'll tape this and the leggo my ego disc. send me
you address again because i have it somewhere but can't seem to locate it.
the show with hum is monday. i'll let you know how it was.
later,
alan
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 01:02:22 -0500
Next in their sporadic acoustic tour, Projekt artists Love Spirals Downwards
will be playing in Mexico City on Thursday Feb 29 at Museo Universitario del
Chopo. This event will also include a "D.J. Ambiental" as well as exclusive
showings of videos from the Hyperium label. The event begins at 19:00 hrs.
On Saturday March 2, there will be a 2'nd show in Guadalajara, and a possible
show there as well on Friday March 1.
For further information regarding these shows call 011 52 5 7823906
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:09:50 +0100
Frank Black SUX.
Kim Deal Rules!
Pixies was great.
This leads to following conclusion: Kim Deal was Pixies! Frank Black was a
load of Bullshit draging Pixies down, without Kim Deal Pixies would also
have sucked!
OK?
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:30:36 -0500
Can anyone confirm whether HNIA is or is not playing this saturday (17th)
at the green room in ypsilanti michigan? they were originally scheduled
for last saturday, but it didnt happpen (reasons unclear).
needless to say, i'm reeeely eager to see 'em play.
thanxX
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:28:50 +0100
The Breeders second album is probably the best pop-album ever!!!
Ain=B4t got time to elaborate this right now so that=B4s it!
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:50:34 GMT
<[email protected]>
K- wrote:
>hey, in regards to the ex-xymox thing: are you familiar with the Bud
>project? i heard about it long about the time curve broke up, and it
>was supposed to be a collaboration between Toni Halliday and Anka
>Wolbert. but since its mention i've not heard anything about it.
I thought that was understood to have never really gotten off the ground.
>also, did Anka and Pieter leave the band because Ronny Moorings was
>causing it to suck, or did he kick them out so they wouldn't get in
>his way (of sucking harder and faster).
I can't remember. I do know that Richard (Wells)was sad to see Anka go
because he reckoned she had all the best songs!!
I'll try and remember to quiz Richard next time I see him (maybe tonight).
Simon Hughes
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:38:32 EST
I remember that there were downloads of a lot of 4ad pictures (jpegs and gifs)
of covers and various misc. band photos. It used to be on jhuvm.hcf.jhu.edu.
I was wondering if those pics are still there or did they move to a new site?
If so, how do you access it. Thanks.
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:13:17 -0500
Here goes...
>>Frank Black SUX.
Kim Deal Rules!
Pixies was great.
This leads to following conclusion: Kim Deal was Pixies! Frank Black was a
load of Bullshit draging Pixies down, without Kim Deal Pixies would also have
sucked! OK?<<
The popular opinion of the new Frank Black material is that it is
disappointing (WIRED magazine, though, thinks otherwise) and I have to say
that I agree. However, making such definitive statements about the worth of
Mr. Black compared to that of Kim Deal, in regards to Pixies, is pretty
silly, especially when he was responsible for about 99.9% of Pixies output.
True, Pixies really started to suffer, in my opinion, when Kim's input was at
its lowest (i.e. TROMPE LE MONDE) because the chemistry between them and
their voices together is one of the things that made DOOLITTLE the classic
album that it is, but...
Pixies were Charley-Boy's show.
My point? Well, if I've said it once, I've said it a billion times, people
either get better or don't. Creative people have lulls (i.e. Throwing Muses
from HUNKPAPA to RED HEAVEN) and they get out of them (i.e. Throwing Muses'
UNIVERSITY) or they don't (XYMOX).
Maybe he's spent, but Black Francis WAS Pixies.
Thank-ee,
IV SONGS
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:26:44 +0000
> The Breeders second album is probably the best pop-album ever!!!
> Ain't got time to elaborate this right now so that's it!
>
Did Andrew make a big contribution to this?
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 16:29:11 GMT
On Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:54:52 +0000, Andrew Norman wrote:
>I think if the Pixies had stuck together, they would still have declined
>in quality - the seeds are there in "Bossanova".
Actually, I think the seeds were there as early as "surfer rosa". It's
a great album, but, especially lyrically, I don't think the songs are
as consistently distinguished as those on "come on pilgrim", which is
one of my very favorite releases ever. Then "Doolittle" is good, but
not up to "surfer rosa" standards, etc. Pixies were a brilliant flash
followed by one long fade to black, IMHO.
Paul
Fuck the CDA.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:11:22 -0600
we'll try crossposting this one. . .
the song i heard is called "space track." what album/12"/CD5/etc. is this from?
is this the one on that 12" you mentioned, dave? it's really damn familiar
and it's driving me NUTS!
BiZ
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 12:54:52 +0000
15, 96 01:09:50 pm
Fredrik Pettersson Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 16:24:00 +0000
I HAVE SPARE COPIES OF ALL VIRGOS AND ITCH FOR SALE
NICK
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Date: 15 February 1996 02:51
I'm interested in obtaining copies of recent 4 AD compilations,
including All Virgos are Mad, Lilliput 1 & 2, and The 13 Year Itch. If
anyone knows where I can get a copy, or has one for sale, please let me
know. Thanks
Sandeep Vijan
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:13:28 +0100
Mail*Link(r) SMTP Galaxie 500
Now that is exactly what I was thinking of. Good call Andrew. The "Isn't
anything" dreamy atmosphere. Thanks for "saving my ass" hehe
-nb- Now listening to the amazing "Don't Fade Away"
>>>>>>>
The Velvet Underground's "1969 Live" album - especially (as Jens said)
the slower songs. In fact, their rendition of "Here She Comes Now" is
almost identical to the VU's, apart from the vocals. I think the only
similarity with MBV is that G500 evoke a similar dreamy atmosphere to
"Isn't Anything". Talking of ex-Creation acts, Lawrence (Felt) has a
new Denim album out soon, there's an interview in this week's NME, quite
disturbing - I certainly wouldn't want to be him.
--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 14/02/96
[email protected], http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Bjork - Post
<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:44:33 -0500
Hey, whatever happened with the RHP "Shock Me" and Insides "Clear Skin" auction?
I seem to have deleted the e-mail of the person that was running it.
. e-mail: [email protected] NOT an abstract
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:15:55 -0800
If you're on the indie list then you supposedly
already know this: Aberdeen has completely
broken up, leaving Beth looking for a new band to
sing for. There may be one more recording coming out
under the name Aberdeen just featuring Beth with some
friends from another band helping out. In the meantime,
we're left with 2 singles on Sarah and one on Sunday.
There's supposedly Bee Gees (!) cover song somewhere,
but I haven't heard it.
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:20:23 -0600
>> Their sound is best described by their label (MVG/Island):
>> "From the moment the dissonant album-opening improvisation fades into the
>> wiry carnality of "Honour Me", it's evident that Salt aren't likely to
>> conform to easily-delineated, alterna-rock standards. Salt's spartan
>> playing informs songs like "Beauty" with a compelling astringency, while
>> Nina's commanding vocal presence mandates undivided attention."
>
>Does this quote actually say anything?
"they have a unique sound and captivating vocals," says about the same
thing, and in much less space. . .i thought that descrition was pretty damn
funny. . .
BiZ
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:46:40 CST
a few days ago, someone on this list mentioned that some us label was going
to distribute and rerelease fax stuff, could you send me the name of the
label to be doing the distribution.
and if there are any other german techno labels being distributed in the us,
could i please get info on those, too?
thanks,
BiZ
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:23:43 -0800
>Not only that, but the Tavener piece is called "The Protecting Veil"
>not "The Darkening Veil" (and might I put in a word for his song cycle
>"To a Child Dancing in the Wind"?) and "Julie" Cruise spells her name
>"Julee". The journal is probably too sophisticated to believe in
>"facts".
Yes, "fact" is an outmoded notion put forth by the ruling hegemony in an
attempt to regulate the horizons of discourse.
But, as an editor (well, I didn't edit the Tavener piece, although I
suppose I'm guilty of knowing it was "factually" incorrect when I put it up
on the Web site - but hell, even if HNIA *was* Brit, would it make the
essay any more agreeable?) I've definitely progressed - witness "Speed
Racer Has Left the Building" at
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:04:40 -0800
Fredrik Pettersson, [email protected]:
>The Breeders second album is probably the best pop-album ever!!!
>Ain=B4t got time to elaborate this right now so that=B4s it!
I like the international flavo[u]r of this list; it shows us how, =
contrary to what we often think, the US-of-A has no monopoly on =
bubbleheads.
Breeders suck!!! Except for "Pod" which rocks your lame ass!!!
Oops, that just slipped out.
__________ =
__________________
Jens Alfke Support the power of woman =
[email protected]
Use the power of man
Support the flower of woman
Use the word: FUCK =
_________________________
The word is love =
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:26:55 -0500
In a message dated 96-02-15 09:34:57 EST, you write:
>Can anyone confirm whether HNIA is or is not playing this saturday (17th)
>at the green room in ypsilanti michigan? they were originally scheduled
>for last saturday, but it didnt happpen (reasons unclear).
>
>needless to say, i'm reeeely eager to see 'em play.
>
>thanxX
>
>
Well, thanks to your post, I called The Green Room directly (313.482.9774)
and YES!!!
hnia is scheduled to play THIS SATURDAY night.... show begins at 9:30.
also appearing are the ohms (fantastic!) and Ohio (also really good!)
For those out of state, I'm not sure on exact location, but you either take
I-94 or I-275 to Michigan Ave west.... the address is 206 W. Michigan Ave in
Ypsilanti...
see you at the show!!!!!
don't you dare miss this one!
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:31:57 +0000
> Fredrik Pettersson
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:18:10 +0100
Mail*Link(r) SMTP Anka Wolbert and Pieter Nooten
Hey I agree with Richard on that one, Anka's songs kick ass!
-nb- Wild thing! You make my heart sing? What the hell was Ronny thinking?
>>>>>>>>>>
K- wrote:
>hey, in regards to the ex-xymox thing: are you familiar with the Bud
>project? i heard about it long about the time curve broke up, and it
>was supposed to be a collaboration between Toni Halliday and Anka
>Wolbert. but since its mention i've not heard anything about it.
I thought that was understood to have never really gotten off the ground.
>also, did Anka and Pieter leave the band because Ronny Moorings was
>causing it to suck, or did he kick them out so they wouldn't get in
>his way (of sucking harder and faster).
I can't remember. I do know that Richard (Wells)was sad to see Anka go
because he reckoned she had all the best songs!!
I'll try and remember to quiz Richard next time I see him (maybe tonight).
Simon Hughes
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:28:29 -0600
>Frank Black SUX.
>Kim Deal Rules!
>Pixies was great.
>This leads to following conclusion: Kim Deal was Pixies! Frank Black was a
>load of Bullshit draging Pixies down, without Kim Deal Pixies would also
>have sucked!
>OK?
what kind of bizarre reasoning is this? you're completely ignoring the
fact that frank wrote most of the pixies' songs by himself, and that most
of the pixies albums are better than anything the breeders (or the amps)
have put out. granted, kim's post-pixies work is better than frank's, but
that doesn't mean she WAS the pixies. here's another example of your
twisted reasoning, using the same warped logic:
the breeders were better than the amps are now.
josephine wiggs was in the breeders, but not the amps,
so josephine wiggs is better than kim deal, and was the real reason for the
breeder's greatness.
besides, we have yet to hear a true kim deal solo album. . .
BiZ
"if you're so special, why aren't you dead?"
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:00:34 -0700
On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, the boy in zinc wrote:
> we'll try crossposting this one. . .
>
> the song i heard is called "space track." what album/12"/CD5/etc. is this fro
?
> is this the one on that 12" you mentioned, dave? it's really damn familiar
> and it's driving me NUTS!
Trance Europe Express Vol. 1
Derek
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:11:34 -0600
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Hello.
I heard a really cool band
from New Mexico called
Jar of Clay. I guess they
opened for Mike Watt.
Anyone ever heard of them?
Anyone got any info about
them?
Oh... and anyone got
the scoop on the demise/
history of Heavenly Bodies
on Cest La Mort?
Any info is appreciated.
thanks,
holly
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:33:22 -0700
actually, take it from someone who has lived in ypsi-tucky. 94 w or e to
us 23 north to michigan ave east. going to 275 takes you to much out of
your way. the address is still 206 w.mich. and while your there, make
sure to EAT AT ABES. it is an experience like no other.....
sean(formerly etzel)