Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 00:58:25 -0800
> Assuming this is the same thing, (4 tracks, orange/red
> sleeve, no jewel case, piece of corn included)
I thought *2* pieces of corn would be included...
> I picked up a copy at Thirty Three Degrees here in Austin.
> It is pure noise manipulation, like some Controlled Bleeding,
> Merzbow, or any number of Japanese noise bands. I've
Actually, Merzbow is more 'pure' noise, from what I understand/my
experience. Not instruments (guitar, drums, etc...) in other words. Any
thoughts on _Noisembryo_, by the way?
> noise community. If you really liked the Little Princess
> tapes on Time Stereo, or the PDM track on the Arbitrary Nature
> of Meaning comp, then you will probably like it.
Actually, I dig the PDM stuff, as it does sound like band-noise rather
But what I want to know (even though I'm expecting the thing to be in my
mailbox tomorrow...) is are the tracks from previous releases? and is it
an EP or an album (even w/ 4 tks...)?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 02:53:04 EST
I have some Pixies CD singles I no longer desire (listed below). I'd luv to
trade them for some throwing muses stuff on CD: chains changed, firepile, count
ing backwards (the one with cottonmouth) and not too soon. If I didn't list it
, try me anyway.
I don't have a lot of confidence that people on this list will part easily with
rare TM stuff so my second shot is auctioning the pixies cds: after two week
s or so I'll take the best offers (starting at $6, postage inc.)
LETTER TO MEMPHIS (PRCD 8441-2) "Letter to Memphis" This promo cd just has the
album version on it with new artwork.
PLANET OF SOUND (BAD 1008 CD) "Planet of Sound, Theme from Narc, Build High,
Evil Hearted You"
DIG FOR FIRE (9 66596-2) "Dig for Fire, Velvety Instrumental Version, Winterlon
g, Santo" Winterlong also appears on "The Bridge: A Tribute to Neil Young"
MONKEY GONE TO HEAVEN (9 66707-2) "Monkey Gone to Heaven, Manta Ray, Weird at M
y School, Dancing the Manta Ray"
ALEC EIFFEL (66444-2) "Alec Eiffel, Letter to Memphis (Instrumental), Build
High, Evil Hearted You" LTM is the same as the album version but the vocal
part is played on guitar!
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 11:16:02 +0000
Emiel Efdee wrote:
[about Lush's ladykillers]
> Should I expect something good?
> Emiel Efdee
I think so...take a look at Addicted To Noise
They have a piece on (well, a wee competition in fact) Lush, as well as
sound bits from "Ladykillers", "Single Girl" and "Ciao!".
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:58:50 EST
conspiracy theorists unite! anyone notice back-to-back references to 4AD in
the New York Times on Sunday and Monday? On Sunday, there was some silly
article about people's personal ads and they had one example of some
goth-chick who listed "people into 4AD-ish bands" or some such thing. Then in
Monday's paper, they used the 4AD Web site as an example of creative Web
hey. it's a lame topic, but i bet somehow it can all be traced to Kim Deal!
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:18:54 EST
First some news that may be new to some of you - I got some info on a V23
exhibition in Newcastle from the end of this month to the end of March in the
post today. Doubt if I'll be able to make it - but I'd like to go.
Saw Moloko on Saturday night. For those unuinitiated, Moloko are a duo (expanded
to a sextet live) from Sheffield / Ireland who deliver a knid of trip-hop / pop
hybrid, with dashes of funk and drum 'n' bass, who've released one LP - the
wonderfully titled 'Do You Like My Tight Sweater'. They come across a bit like
Portishead on a party kick, if you can imagine the morose Bristolians on a party
kick (not a criticism - love Portishead to death). What surprised me was how
powerfully they came across live. Singer Roisin Murphy has an almost scary
charisma. Definitely a band to see if you get the chance.
Also picked up a few new records. Jacob's Optical Stairway are an offshoot or
pseudonym of/for Four Hero (not sure which), and their self-titled LP is a
cracking, mellow drum 'n' bass affair, with dashings of laid-back jazz, and
Dave Clarke's debut 'Archive One' is a kind of career resume. It starts
brilliantly with the cinematic Rhapsody In Red, and finishes equally brilliantly
with a trip-hop anthem called Splendour. In between, you mainly get a diet of
fairly hard techno, some of which is quite rivetting, but in parts, so minimal
as to be a little dreary. More eclecticism of the kind shown by the album's
endpieces would be welcomed.
Thirdly, the debut album by south London's Brotherhood called 'Elementalz' which
has had critics hailing as the greatest UK rap album ever - like what's the
competition a cynic may say. That aside, it is a truly excellent record. It's
really refreshing to hear British rappers not simply aping their American peers,
but exploring our own culture with our own accents. This they do brilliantly.
I've never been a massive rap fan personally - I love hip hop, but I'm more into
the music. And Elementalz sure delivers on that point. Tunes, and the best beats
I've heard outside the tables of DJs Krush and Shadow for a long long while.
There is an immense amount of exciting British music being made at the moment,
coming from a complete disregard for categorization. Tricky, Goldie, Autechre,
Flying Saucer Attack, Disco Inferno, LFO - just to name a few off the top of my
head. Hardly a week goes by without coming across something new and exciting.
This stuff really is the music of the next millenium. Unfortunately, a lot of
this new stuff remains unheard, and certainly under-exposed, due to press and
radio's pathetic obsession with a load of retrogressive dunderheads, grouped
together as the bollocks that is brit-pop. It's the last desperate roll of the
dice for people still obsessed with formula-rock. Does anyone think that Oasis
could sell two million copies of a record if they were offering anything new?
What they supply is fraudulent, derivative and above all safe. They sell records
to people who want a safe, all-white alternative to what is happening in dance
culture and away from the mainstream. Tunes like they used to write. Oh fuck off
- if I want tunes like they used to write, then I'll listen to the ones they
used to write - the Byrds, Big Star, Led Zeppelin or whatever. It's all been
done and done better and fresher. It's not even that it's no longer possible to
sound fresh using guitar-bass-drums (a format now more than 50 years old - well
over half of the history of recorded music!). Pavement can still do it, the
Muses can still do it - My Bloody Valentine even use that format. No it's a fear
of the new. Perhaps it's a reaction to the incredible advances in technology
over the past few years. People want something old and familiar to cling to.
4AD seem to be sitting a little to much on the sidelines for my liking. Sure I
still love a good proportion of the records the label puts out. I wouldn't
really quibble with anyone they've signed over the past few years, since the
appalling Spirea X at any rate, and the consistently under-achieving Heidi
Berry. But I'd like to see Ivo et al looking around a little more for something
a little more surprising. Beggar's Banquet have Main, Flying Nun have
LaBradford, Go Discs (home of the Beautiful South!) signed Portishead. It seems
that other labels, formally much more conservative in their approach than 4AD,
are branching out. I'd hate to see a label that has given me more pleasure over
the last 16 years than any other be left behind.
Sorry it turned into a long rant - Dez
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:44:36 +0000
> I just fished out from my old tape collection the Legendary Wolfgang Press and
> other tall stories. Excellent stuff there.
> Brought to mind a question, is this available on CD, has it been reissued
> anywhere? How could I get my hands on it?
It is indeed available on CD.
And you are correct sir, a truly incredible piece of work.
First TWP disc I ever picked up--bought used during a trip to New
York, back in the days when one could pick up anything 4ad released,
knowing it would be fantastic. Also picked up _Livonia_, which had
just come out. Quite a shopping spree, that one.
Hoping 4ad will get out of its current rut.
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:21:08 +0000
Just found at my local record shop a promo 12" of Scheer. 2 songs
1. Shea (demo version)
No art work. Can't remember the cat no.
Not really interested cause i read a review of it saying that there's
more of Scheer's trademark guitar waffle on it. I'll swap it for that limited ed
tion boxed-set of
The main point of this post is that the new Lush is out Next monday
(16th) in the UK. Hoorah.
I get Cave's Murder Ballads for Valentines Day tomorrow.
Me - http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/sei/sei/h.html
Snapper - http://asegweb.ohm.york.ac.uk/tsb/music.html
***If you want to get into it - You've got to get out of it****
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:35:32 -0800
On Mon, 12 Feb 1996, Frank Brinkhuis wrote:
> - February 12 'Ladykillers'
> - March 4 'Lovelife'
Well, the new LK eps should be out by now or next week, and the new
Scheer ep is ready to go as well.
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 10:54:36 -0600
96 12:23:42 pm
I'm appending / editing my own post.
I figured it was someone who performed with This Mortal Coil,
possibly around the time Blood was recorded, but that hasn't made much
difference (i speak of the voice sample from Acid, Bitter & Sad which
was incorporated into one of the songs on Blood)....anyone? Anyone?
someone must know ;)
> A question:
> *Whose* child is the voice on Baby Ray Baby off the last This
> Mortal Coil album (Blood)? I've been curious about this for years and
> it just *now* dawned on me that someone on ze list may know ;).
> --->>> http://www.teleport.com/~obee/kendal.html <<<---
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 11:31:02 -0800
Throwing Muses at the Whiskey (West Hollywood)
on Feb 20th, in case anyone's forgotten. The tour
schedule was posted here a week or two ago, so check
the archives. Tickets $15 plus $2.50 to the ticket monopoly.
Still not a bad price, I must admit. A year or two ago,
who'd have thought I'd be really excited about seeing them!
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 14:09:03 -0600
can anyone tell me anything about cosmic baby? i heard a song by them
today (something space -- i forget the title), and it was absolutely
brilliant. my friend that taped it for me got it off a v/a disc, but i'd
like to know if they have anything else available. it sounded really
familiar (like someone had used it in a movie/tv show or something. . .)
anyway, any info would be appreciated.
"in the bed where they make love, she's in a film on the sheets.
he shows dreams like a movie, she's the softness of cinema seats. . ."
-st. etienne "pale movie"
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:10:10 -0500
>I have been actually trying real hard to get my hands on their stuff, very
>hard to find since the demise of rough trade. Anyone know where these are
I just saw a copy of their 1988 first album, on sale in NY for US$30. In
the RARE CD section.
I would also be interested in knowing, since Luna is pretty big, if some
of the stuff will be reissued. Seems like a good candidate for a little
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:46:47 +0100
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:59:38 -0800
I just bought the Mojave3 album yesterday. Neil and Rachel have a knack
for putting me to sleep, so I haven't really heard the album yet.
But, I noticed that Neil's vocals, this time around, sound very much like
those of Dean Wareham (galaxie 500/luna). Very honest, a nice touch.
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:52:04 -0600
It=B4s 12:00 and i just contacted the Hotwired Homepage. I tried to=20
connect all through the broadcast but ... nothing! Luckily there=B4s the=20
recording of the tracks for you who want to hear it all over again, or=20
just want to hear it for the first time.
The first 35 minutes of the broadcast is dedicated to Twinlights and=20
Otherness. The rest are tracks from Milk & Kisses. It features:
- The new version of Violane (1000 times better than the Otherness=20
- A new track (sound like and outtake form the Four Calendar Cafe Ep=B4s=20
- Rilkean Heart (poppier than the one on Twinlights)
- Half Gifts (It sound compleatly different, it has a merry go round=20
and, but not least...
-Seekers Who Are Lovers (with amazing vocals! These are the vocals that=20
Elizabeth used in a live performance of this song, with the music of the=20
Otherness version, on the White Room)
Use your browsers and listen for yourselves
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 18:54:48 -0800
If anyone has, or knows where this is available, please tell
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 18:49:41 -0800
What is this compilation??? and is their anyone who has it, and is
willing to part with it?????
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 18:47:05 -0800
I have gotten some respopnses abpout this compilation, but no one seems
to want to give it up! Anyone willing to sell, e-mail me at
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 18:48:56 -0800
What exactly is out by ESP??? I already orders the ESP Summer 10", but
where can I get Continent??? and what is released by ESP Dolphin???
Anything here in the states???? PLEASE tell me what is available, where
it's available, and how much it's avilable for....
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:54:32 -0800
>can one of you fonts o' knowledge share with me and everyone on the
>all you know about hyperium records from germany? i have a sampler of
>their's that is absolutely gorgeous. i want history, discography, and
>outlets for obtainment. i want it. i want it.
>dave again and again (desarg@Mail.wm.edu)
hyperium's web page (plus other goodies too!)
basic graphics yet beautiful, lots of great info
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:26:28 -0800
Jos. Burns writes:
>This may be old news to some of you, but I just came across something in
>a newspaper that made me realise something about the Pixies tune "The
Yup! And "Motorway To Roswell" is about Roswell, New Mexico, where the UFO
nuts^H^H^H^Haficionados say a UFO landed and contacted humans.
And "The Navajo Know", while not about UFOs, is about the interesting
fact that the construction crews working on skyscrapers were/are(?)
composed in large part of Navajos, since they either have no fear of
heights or are so self-disciplined as to be able to suppress that fear
easily. I can't recall where I read about this... ("The Navajo know / A
way of walking / So high above the ground..."
And while I'm at it, a "Havelina" is a wild boar native to the Sonoran
desert. Black Francis really has something for the Southwest, doesn't he!
Any other obscure meanings behind Pixies songs?
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:49:42 +0100
Sorry about the non-4AD content, but I wouldn't want you to miss the
Swedish group Salt's US tour (right now). If you can, go and see them!
Their sound is best described by their label (MVG/Island):
"From the moment the dissonant album-opening improvisation fades into the
wiry carnality of "Honour Me", it's evident that Salt aren't likely to
conform to easily-delineated, alterna-rock standards. Salt's spartan
playing informs songs like "Beauty" with a compelling astringency, while
Nina's commanding vocal presence mandates undivided attention."
M 12 San Jose, CA Cactus Club
T 13 SF, CA Bottom Of The Hill
Th 15 LA, CA Whisky
F 16 San Diego, CA The Casbah
Su 18 Phoenix, AZ Mason Jar
T 20 Denver, CO Mercury Cafe
Th 22 Kansas City, MO The Hurricane
F 23 Minneapolis, MN 7th St. Entry
S 24 Chicago, IL Lounge Ax
Su 25 Cleveland, OH Grog Shop
M 26 Detroit, MI Shelter
T 27 Toronto, Ont. The Horseshoe Tavern
Th 29 Boston, MA Middle East
F 01 New York, NY Coney Island High
S 02 Philadelphia, PA Khyber Pass
Su 03 Baltimore, MD 8 X 10
M 04 Washington DC 9:30 Club
W 06 Atlanta, GA The Point
F 08 Springfield, MO Regency Showcase
S 09 St. Louis, MO Galaxy
Su 10 Memphis, TN (tba)
M 11 Nashville, TN (tba)
Th 14 New York City Brownie's
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