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Subject: Lush Wire cover
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:53:28 -0500
From: Quinn Devine (devine@SUN1.ENGR.UTK.EDU)
Subject: Re: Galaxie 500
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 00:48:25 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Lush Wire Cover/Lush on 120min
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 02:54:19 -0500
From: Quinn Devine (devine@SUN1.ENGR.UTK.EDU)
Subject: University - Ltd Edition.
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:10:49 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: Question about Lush Product...
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 09:42:42 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: University - Ltd Edition.
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 06:54:00 CST
From: Lysa Bellott (dijitxs@MAILHOST.ACCESSCOM.NET)
Subject: That was LUSH???
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 07:13:00 CST
From: Lysa Bellott (dijitxs@MAILHOST.ACCESSCOM.NET)
Subject: Lush 'Ladykillers' out yet?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 15:10:25 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: University - Ltd Edition.
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:11:33 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: e.s.p. continent in the uk
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 14:29:02 -0800
From: Andy the Panda (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Lush 'Ladykillers' out yet?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:26:19 +0000
From: Red Horus (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Legendary Wolfgang Press
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 10:14:31 +0100
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Re: Question about Lush Product...
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 14:31:08 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Galaxie 500
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:17:43 +0100
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Ladykillers/Single girl/Where is 4ad?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:36:57 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Damon and Naomi/Blue Nile/Lush
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:08:10 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lush 'Ladykillers' out yet?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 23:43:31 +0100
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Lush 'Ladykillers' out yet?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:42:31 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Princess Dragon Mom
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:10:55 CST
From: thad.engeling@CCQM.NATINST.COM
Subject: Re: Princess Dragon Mom
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 20:03:59 -0600
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: Question about Lush Product...
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 14:32:51 -0800
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Re: University - Ltd Edition.
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:26:29 +0100
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Galaxie 500
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:52:00 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: old pixie/UFO stuff.
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:07:56 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: University - Ltd Edition.
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 14:07:59 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)

Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:53:28 -0500
From: Quinn Devine (devine@SUN1.ENGR.UTK.EDU)
Subject: Lush Wire cover


That Wire tribute album is apparently out now
and I'm happy to say that Lush contributes a brand new
recording for it - Mannequin.  Also, My Bloody Valentine does
Map Ref. 41N 93W.  Check out the details here:




-qd


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 00:48:25 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Galaxie 500


>>didn't dean wareham and his wife cut
>>a 7" called "bonnie and clyde"? i believe there might have been some
>>discussion of this last month. can't remember. egads.
>
>I think the "band" of Mr. & Mrs. Wareham is called Cagney & Lacee.  They
>released a 7" of a coupla really schmaltzy pop tunes (one of which is a
>truly adorable Lee Hazlewood number) on the No. 6 label just a short while
>back.

not to clutter the list w/ a topic much talked about, but "bonnie and
clyde," is luna with laetitia sadier from stereolab -- sung in french. . .

BiZ

"in the bed where they make love, she's in a film on the sheets.
        he shows dreams like a movie, she's the softness of cinema seats. . ."
        -st. etienne "pale movie"


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 02:54:19 -0500
From: Quinn Devine (devine@SUN1.ENGR.UTK.EDU)
Subject: Lush Wire Cover/Lush on 120min


about that link to the Wire Mail Order site:

> http://ourworld.compuserve.com:80/homepages/wmo/wmo2cd.html

apparently you have to leave off the "l" at the end for this link to work.



So, miki and emma were on 120 min tonight plugging the new album - kinda strange
since it won't be released for several more weeks.  The video for ladykillers
turned out to be more interesting than that little quicktime clip led on -
I think it has "Buzz Clip" written all over it. Or at least MTV might air it mor

than once.  I really like this song too, even though I prefer miki singing in he

usual upper octave.

Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:10:49 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: University - Ltd Edition.


Can somebody tell me the difference between the ltd and normal CD. I saw
this recording at the weekend, and it looked to be a better pack than the norm -
A sort
of off-purple Maroon Box thingy (I couldn't open it as it was sealed in a strang
 see-through
substance - the guy at the shop called it plastic). Also the catalogue number on
it had
a second "D" in it. Methinks CAD 500? D or something. I really like snakeface, s
 I suppose
I should get this album. And if this is the ltd edition I have seen, it is a bon
s (especially as the
price is the same).

Chris,
Musing over muses


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 09:42:42 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Question about Lush Product...

              Jacobson" at Feb 11, 96 04:29:29 pm

Creig Jacobson  wrote:
 >
 > 1. Is the CD of Gala in the UK still available in the cardboard
 > slipcase that is printed on the outside and the inside?

No, and I'm not sure the regular version is, either - it certainly
isn't in the 4AD catalogue.  It was originally intended as a "Pink
Opaque" style collection for foreigners who hadn't had the chance to buy
the EPs, so I think it was only ever intended to be a temporary release
in the UK.

 > 2. Is the normal CD of Spooky in the UK in a digipak or was that
 > only a limited edition?  I remember seeing it when it first came
 > out.  I thought "cool package" then saw the import price tag on
 > it, passed out and was carried home.

The digipak was a limited edition, but when I bought my CD copy sometime
last year, Selectadisc in Nottingham were still selling the digipak
version (and at a knockdown price).  If there were still copies of the
"limited" version around three years after its release, it either wasn't
very limited or the album sold very badly.  Incidentally, some shops
here are still selling the limited "University" package.

 > 3. Was the "For Love" ep pressed as a 12" or was it only
 > available as a limited 10" and CD?

Dunno.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 12/02/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Leonard Cohen - New Skin...


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 06:54:00 CST
From: Lysa Bellott (dijitxs@MAILHOST.ACCESSCOM.NET)
Subject: Re: University - Ltd Edition.


Limited edition or not--University is a smarvelous album worth having and
listening to until your eardrums pop. (I personally have not seen the
package you are referring to.)

Lysa


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 07:13:00 CST
From: Lysa Bellott (dijitxs@MAILHOST.ACCESSCOM.NET)
Subject: That was LUSH???


120 Minutes was the first I've heard of the new stuff, namely Ladykillers,
from Lush.  Wow--I didn't know Miki could sing so LOW!  Actually she has
sung that low before, the songs are just mixed differently (I think).  And
the guitars--where are all the ringing, swirly guitars???

Oh well, change is a good thing, right?  I'm going to keep an open mind
about this and not judge anything until I've heard the new album in its
entirety. The lyrics no doubt are as brilliant and clever as ever!

Still in love with Lush,
Lysa


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 15:10:25 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Lush 'Ladykillers' out yet?


According to the latest 4AD THE SITE news update the Lush 'ladykillers'
single should be out now, in the UK.
Any of the mailorder subscribers who got their stuff yet? Or is all London
mail held up because of that stupid IRA act?

Frank
++++++++++++++
frankbri@pop.pi.net
++++++++++++++


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:11:33 +0000
From: Jason Wintz (moran@HAL-PC.ORG)
Subject: Re: University - Ltd Edition.


On Sun, 11 Feb you wrote:

> Can somebody tell me the difference between the ltd and normal CD. I saw
> this recording at the weekend, and it looked to be a better pack than the norm
- A sort
> of off-purple Maroon Box thingy (I couldn't open it as it was sealed in a stra
ge see-through
> substance - the guy at the shop called it plastic). Also the catalogue number 
n it had
> a second "D" in it. Methinks CAD 500? D or something. I really like snakeface,
so I suppose
> I should get this album. And if this is the ltd edition I have seen, it is a b
nus (especially as the
> price is the same).

This is the copy that I have--I believe that it is a deluxe or limted
edition (isn't that what the extra D stands for?)

moran@hal-pc.org


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 14:29:02 -0800
From: Andy the Panda (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: e.s.p. continent in the uk


picked this up on saturday in the first shop i went into in london. i had the
time stereo cassette anyway (which seems to be identical) but the packaging
is nice as is the random access capabilities of the cd. better still it has
titles and lyrics for all the songs which makes my life easier 8).

so, if anybody in britain wants a copy they can get one for L13.49 plus
postage from ufo music ltd, 18 hanway street, london and they do mail-order.
telephone number on receipt is given as 071 636 1281 which i haven't checked
(it's in nme every week). they also still have copies of the french spoonfed
hybrid single with the nice translucent sleeve.

--
andyx (a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)
now the proud owner of 4 copies of 'no sun'


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:26:19 +0000
From: Red Horus (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Lush 'Ladykillers' out yet?


On Mon, 12 Feb 1996 15:10:25 +0100 Frank Brinkhuis
 wrote:
>According to the latest 4AD THE SITE news update the Lush
>'ladykillers' single should be out now, in the UK.

Monday 26th February as far as I know, unless it's been brought
forward...

BTW, D'you have the address for the aforementioned 4AD THE SITE
(hope this isn't too much of a FAQ)



Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 10:14:31 +0100
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Legendary Wolfgang Press


Hey all!

I just fished out from my old tape collection the Legendary Wolfgang Press and
other tall stories. Excellent stuff there.
Brought to mind a question, is this available on CD, has it been reissued
anywhere? How could I get my hands on it?

nb- living in shame until kingdom comes

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 14:31:08 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Question about Lush Product...


"For Love" was also offered as a cd single


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:17:43 +0100
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Galaxie 500


I don't think they sound anything like RHP. I would put them in the category
of MBV only mellower with a hint of Spiritualized. They had 2 or 3 albums out
on Rough Trade in the late 80's. Then they disnbanded. The main dude in G500
Dean Wareham is now in Luna (not as good).
The bass player Naomi and the 3rd member (can't remember his name) had several
little projects together.

I have been actually trying real hard to get my hands on their stuff, very
hard to find since the demise of rough trade. Anyone know where these are
available?
I specially liked "On fire" (I think that's what is was called)
They had a great rendition of Joy Division's "Ceremony" and a great song
called "4th of july"

Well that was my 2 cents.

-nb- Still living in shame


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:36:57 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Ladykillers/Single girl/Where is 4ad?


    I saw the Ladykillers video, and like someone said earlier, it
will probably be a buzz clip because of Mark Pellington directing. But
what about Single Girl, is that a UK only release just like
Desire Lines?
 Damn, us Americans always miss out! By the way, Where is the 4-ad
sight?
Anyone like Cibo Matto? "Know your Chicken" was a dopey video, they
should've done "apple" it's a pretty song, sounds just like Enya.


                                    bRiAN


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:08:10 -0500
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Damon and Naomi/Blue Nile/Lush


<<<<

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 23:43:31 +0100
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Lush 'Ladykillers' out yet?


>According to the latest 4AD THE SITE news update the Lush 'ladykillers'
>single should be out now, in the UK.
>Any of the mailorder subscribers who got their stuff yet?


No. Not even a creditcard receipt (most of the times one day before the actual s
nding)

Should I expect something good?




Emiel Efdee

the Netherlands, February 12, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:42:31 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (frankbri@PI.NET)
Subject: Re: Lush 'Ladykillers' out yet?


>>According to the latest 4AD THE SITE news update the Lush
>>'ladykillers' single should be out now, in the UK.
>
>Monday 26th February as far as I know,

I know, but the February 9 news update on THE SITE says:

- February 12 'Ladykillers'
- March 4 'Lovelife'


>BTW, D'you have the address for the aforementioned 4AD THE SITE
>(hope this isn't too much of a FAQ)




Frank
++++++++++++++
frankbri@pop.pi.net
++++++++++++++

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:10:55 CST
From: thad.engeling@CCQM.NATINST.COM
Subject: Re: Princess Dragon Mom


> Princess Dragon Mom CD at Parasol and Ear/Rational.
> What is it all about?  I don't know anything about it...

Assuming this is the same thing, (4 tracks, orange/red
sleeve, no jewel case, piece of corn included)
I picked up a copy at Thirty Three Degrees here in Austin.
It is pure noise manipulation, like some Controlled Bleeding,
Merzbow, or any number of Japanese noise bands. I've
only listened to it once so far, so I can't say yet whether
there is anything to set it appart from the rest of the
noise community. If you really liked the Little Princess
tapes on Time Stereo, or the PDM track on the Arbitrary Nature
of Meaning comp, then you will probably like it.

later on,
Thad
"This isn't death, this is just a textural event"


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 20:03:59 -0600
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: Princess Dragon Mom


>I've
>only listened to it once so far, so I can't say yet whether
>there is anything to set it appart from the rest of the
>noise community.

Um, does the free piece of corn count?  :)

Cheers,


hk
--
hk kahng | hk@neosoft.com & farrago@delphi.com
         | http://www.neosoft.com/~hk/home.htm
         | hey, look! i'm picasso!

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 14:32:51 -0800
From: Brian Keeley (gysin@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Re: Question about Lush Product...


Creig Jacobson  spewed forth:
>
>1. Is the CD of Gala in the UK still available in the cardboard
>slipcase that is printed on the outside and the inside?

No.

>2. Is the normal CD of Spooky in the UK in a digipak or was that
>only a limited edition?  I remember seeing it when it first came
>out.  I thought "cool package" then saw the import price tag on
>it, passed out and was carried home.

Lmt.Ed.

>3. Was the "For Love" ep pressed as a 12" or was it only available
>as a limited 10" and CD?
>

>From the Lush discography:

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

A7.  _For Love_ (1992) Recorded: (11.91) Released (1.92)

        {BAD 2001 - 12"

        BAD 2001 CD. Gatefold digipak.

        BAD D 2001 - lmt-ed 10"

        PIAS: 170.2001.22 - slimline CD}
        a) for love (3.35)

        b) starlust (4.24)

        c) outdoor miner (2.49) [Wire cover]

        d) astronaut (2.39)



+ a) produced and engineered by Robin Guthrie. b), c) and d) all

produced  by Lush and Mark Freegard.  From _Eyesore_:  "'Outdoor Miner'

was  originally recorded by Wire. BAD D 2001 is a 10'' single with a

different sleeve. The run-out grooves read "Steve, yah, bloody good

bloke." "Miki? Face like a bulldog chewing a wasp!" (BADD2001).

BAD2001CD was released in a deluxe fold-out digipak. 'For Love'

produced by Robin Guthrie (Cocteau Twins). 'Outdoor Miner' written

by Graham Lewis (Wire) and Colin Newman (Wire). 'Outdoor Miner'

coproduced by Mark Freegard." The Digipak-CD has "for the love of

Steve" in the credits.

Reality



Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:26:29 +0100
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: University - Ltd Edition.


>Can somebody tell me the difference between the ltd and normal CD. I saw
>this recording at the weekend, and it looked to be a better pack than the norm 
 A sort
>of off-purple Maroon Box thingy (I couldn't open it as it was sealed in a stran
e see-through
>substance - the guy at the shop called it plastic). Also the catalogue number o
 it had
>a second "D" in it. Methinks CAD 500? D or something. I really like snakeface, 
o I suppose
>I should get this album. And if this is the ltd edition I have seen, it is a bo
us (especially as the
>price is the same).


Well, in this box you will find:

- one digipacked cd with no typography on the cover (only inside)

- one 'harminium-fold' set of eight postcards with drawings and photographs on t
em, on the back of these postcards you will find the words that Kristin wrote (l
rics).


- a six-pack of throwing muses beer

- a set of twentythree japanese kitchen knives (as seen on tv)

- two tickets for their 1995 tour

- and lots of more...



Emiel Efdee

the Netherlands, February 12, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl


I say: "WaHoo!"

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:52:00 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Galaxie 500


Nadim Baki-Zada, nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM wrote:
>I don't think they sound anything like RHP. I would put them in the category
>of MBV only mellower with a hint of Spiritualized. They had 2 or 3 albums out
>on Rough Trade in the late 80's. Then they disnbanded. The main dude in G500
>Dean Wareham is now in Luna (not as good).

 I don't see how Galaxie 500 could be compared to MBV; christ,
they didn't even use any guitar effects except maybe a fuzzbox, did they?
To me they sound like nothing so much as the Velvet Underground's slower
pop songs (think "Pale Blue Eyes" or "Beginning To See the Light") only
with nasal off-key singing and mopey lyrics. Good VU-ish guitar solos
too. No flames, I did like them somewhat, but they're certainly no MBV.
I'd hate to see someone rush out to buy their albums expecting some kind
of blissed-out shoegazer swirlynoisefest. :)

They _are_ thislisty in that they opened for the Cocteau Twins on the
'90-'91 tour.

__________                                            __________________
Jens Alfke         Support the power of woman         jens@mooseyard.com
                      Use the power of man
                   Support the flower of woman
                       Use the word: FUCK
                        The word is love

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:07:56 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: old pixie/UFO stuff.


This may be old news to some of you, but I just came across something in
a newspaper that made me realise something about the Pixies tune "The
Happening"...

There's an area in Nevada that's owned by the US government. Evidently
its the site of their top secret air force base. And also the place where
UFO afficianados (sp?) / lunatics are convinced that the US gvt is
holding all their information of 'close encounters' as well as a ship
they captured back in the late 80s. (I suppose elvis is in there too).
Anyway, if you try to look the place up on a map, its just this massive
un-mapped un-surveyed chunck of the desert, labeled "area 51".


thus the Pixies lyric "they've got a ranch they call number 51".

anyway, sorry to waste band widthe if this is old news, but it was a
minor revelation to me.

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 14:07:59 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: University - Ltd Edition.

              "Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM" at Feb 11, 96 10:10:49 pm

Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM wrote:
 >
 > Can somebody tell me the difference between the ltd and normal
 > CD. I saw this recording at the weekend, and it looked to be a
 > better pack than the norm - A sort of off-purple Maroon Box
 > thingy (I couldn't open it as it was sealed in a strange
 > see-through substance - the guy at the shop called it plastic).
 > Also the catalogue number on it had a second "D" in it. Methinks
 > CAD 500? D or something. I really like snakeface, so I suppose I
 > should get this album. And if this is the ltd edition I have
 > seen, it is a bonus (especially as the price is the same).

This should surely be in the FAQ by now?  The limited "University" is a
digipak in a dark red slipcase (similar to the sort of thing
dictionaries sometimes come in), with a set of "postcards" (linked
perforated cards with pictures on one side and the lyrics on the
other).  The digipak is silver all over on the outside.  I believe
there's some additional artwork, though since the artwork isn't all
that good (in my subjective opinion), it doesn't matter very much.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 12/02/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Leonard Cohen - New Skin...


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