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Subject: Re: Toward the Within
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:23:02 EST
From: Derek Innocent ([email protected])
Subject: Toward the Within etc.
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:05:00 PST
From: "Heileson, Thomas" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Bowery Electric, YES YES YES
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 19:34:12 -0800
From: "Leon Wagner \"Daddy Wags\"" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Bowery Electric, YES YES YES
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:48:56 -0800
From: Jens Alfke ([email protected])
Subject: Re: cult of ray
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 18:52:32 -0800
From: Micah Newman ([email protected])
Subject: Bowery Electric, YES YES YES
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:20:48 -0800
From: Jens Alfke ([email protected])
Subject: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 13:00:21 -0800
From: Bradford Chamberlain ([email protected])
Subject: Off
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 15:10:57 EST-11
From: Tony PERSOGLIA ([email protected])
Subject: Cocteau Internet Chat Session
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 22:13:45 -0800
From: Jack B Huynh ([email protected])
Subject: Baraka on Video
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:03:39 +0000
From: Leee Beattie ([email protected])
Subject: Dewdrops scheduling
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 20:36:25 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records ([email protected])
Subject: more stuff for sale
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 00:23:47 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: u-ziq [sic] & Kristin Hersh
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 04:46:21 -0500
From: "J. Orr" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 03:55:34 -0500
From: "John B. Jones" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Cocteau Internet Chat Session
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 02:09:53 -0800
From: Joel Krueger ([email protected])
Subject: Re: cult of ray
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:06:13 +0100
From: Giz Pettersson ([email protected])
Subject: stereolab tour us in april or may
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:56:00 -0800
From: Andy the Panda ([email protected])
Subject: Jens' spelling
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 07:15:42 -0500
From: Larry Koch ([email protected])
Subject: Re: non 4ad-- people in bands please read
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 13:46:50 -0800
From: Robert Pietrusko ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Jens' spelling
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:12:08 +0000
From: "That would be telling ..." ([email protected])
Subject: Re: lfo Cave releases
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 07:05:01 -0800
From: David Mccallum ([email protected])
Subject: Tinkerbell
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:58:47 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor ([email protected])
Subject: Re: lfo: advance & Lush, Stereolab
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:52:23 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:22:58 -0500
From: Andrew Chapin ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:55:40 CST
From: the boy in zinc ([email protected])
Subject: Cocteau Chat Session again...
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:30:58 -0800
From: Jack B Huynh ([email protected])
Subject: tortoise?
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:57:54 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:38:45 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:47:07 -0500
From: Joseph Burns ([email protected])
Subject: lush lovelife cd giveaway
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 17:05:21 -0500
From: Quinn Devine ([email protected])
Subject: run dmc to kim deal (easy!)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 17:19:20 -0600
From: the boy in zinc ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 18:01:02 -0600
From: mike lawyer ([email protected])
Subject: Dub Syndicate tour dates from pollstar
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:37:28 -0500
From: Michael Hauben ([email protected])

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:23:02 EST
From: Derek Innocent ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Toward the Within


Andrew Massey wrote:

>I'm sick of his unjustified (that I have seen) slagging of the latter
>beautiful album whenever he can seem to fit a dig at it in. I'm glad to say
>I know that I don't see eye-to-eye with such a poor judge of people, music,
>importance of role playing games, and especially self-worth; but I wonder
>what other people's views on this album are. Am I alone in thinking that it
>is one of the top two or three albums which 4AD have released? I wouldn't
>think so - but who knows. Apart from the messy Cantara, which is it's only
>downpoint for me, the whole glow of this album hits me for six everytime.
>Rakim is so huge a sound. Sanvean is sung so heartfeltly (I realise that
>this is not a word before the flames start) that it could not be bettered
>in the studio for her album. And Don't Fade Away shimmers long after it
>finishes, as the crowd at the recording acknowledge in their wondrous
>applause. What more could be asked for?

>Andie

Have to agree with you (up to a point - I wouldn't go as far to say its up there
in a top 3). Especially after the sprawling mess of Into The Labyrinth, it came
like a breath of fresh air. Sanvean, Don't Fade Away and American Dreaming are
worth the entry fee alone. So you're not alone.

- Dez

PS If anyone is thinking on getting Volume 15 solely on the strength of the
Cocteau Twins track - don't bother. It's one of the worst tracks on there. So
predictable, so tedious, so damned irritating. Split up - you're making fools of
yourselves. The rest of the CD is pretty good though, particularly the tracks by
Solid and Joi (mixed by Spring Heel Jack). The Scheer track is pretty ordinary
(ie 50 times better than the Cocteau Twins track)


Soundtrack to life - Moloko - Dominoid; Tortoise - Djed; LFO - Kombat Drinking;
ROC - X-Line; Disco Inferno - Lost In Fog

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:05:00 PST
From: "Heileson, Thomas" ([email protected])
Subject: Toward the Within etc.


>
>Einexile spouted in his usual supercilious fashion:
>
>I think the Lush singles are the worst 4AD releases since
>Ocean Beach if not Toward the Within.
>
>I'm sick of his unjustified (that I have seen) slagging of the latter
>beautiful album whenever he can seem to fit a dig at it in. I'm glad to say
>I know that I don't see eye-to-eye with such a poor judge of people, music,
>importance of role playing games, and especially self-worth; but I wonder
>what other people's views on this album are. Am I alone in thinking that it
>is one of the top two or three albums which 4AD have released? I wouldn't
>think so - but who knows. Apart from the messy Cantara, which is it's only
>downpoint for me, the whole glow of this album hits me for six everytime.

'Fraid I'll have to come to His Meekness' defense here -- I felt it
imperative urge to jump in when "Toward The Within" is cited as one of 4AD's
top 2-3 records, and then "Cantara" is slammed. "Cantara" had always
glowingly been the best part of that live album IMO, one of the album's few
redeeming features. Messy? Try unique, non-formulaic, visionary. i.e. the
song progresses ethereally towards a climax very unlike most western song
structure. And unlike Brendon's formulaic folkish tunes on there. (Check out
the original -- more subdued, but also powerful.)

Certainly I'm not saying that my tastes are "right," and Andrew's "wrong";
(one feels the need to disclaimer-ly acknowledge plurality and
relativity...) it just drives in deeper the fact that opinions on this list
can be _so_ different, sometimes evenly opposite  on broad topics. (I still
think it can usually be boiled down to one main dichotomy of fans...)

Also, though I shouldn't speak for Einexile, I think that to what extend his
posts are "supercilious," they are so in a more tongue-in-cheek tone than
some people are interpreting. (correct me if ah'm wrong, e) At least for
myself, I enjoy e's posts and the ensuing kicked-up-dust.

different animals. The first, more surreal, otherworldly; the second, more
earthly and accessible. I like it all ('cept for ditties like "American
Girl"), but prefer -- and miss -- the former.

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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 19:34:12 -0800
From: "Leon Wagner \"Daddy Wags\"" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Bowery Electric, YES YES YES


> At 12:20 PM 2/7/96 -0800, you wrote:
> >In which Jens reviews
> >
> >---> BOWERY ELECTRIC  s/t album  (Kranky)
> >
>
> I have an address for Kranky Records (P. O. Box 578743, Chicago, 60657), but
> do not have a phone number and do not know how much this CD costs.  Could
> someone clue me in on the cost of the CD (plus shipping) or supply the phone
> number of Kranky?  Thanks much.
>
The CD is $11 ppd. in the US. Their ad in Speed Kills says taht a check or
money order to above address will get you the CD.

Brett

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:48:56 -0800
From: Jens Alfke ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Bowery Electric, YES YES YES


>I have an address for Kranky Records (P. O. Box 578743, Chicago, 60657), but
>do not have a phone number and do not know how much this CD costs.  Could

Parasol, Vinyl Ink and/or EAR/Rational should have it. Phone numbers for
the first two and a Web page for the latter are in the FAQ:

       Parasol
       202 S. First
       Champaign, IL
       61820 USA
       (217) 355-2555

       Vinyl Ink
       955 Bonifant St.
       Silver Spring, MD
       20910 USA
       (301) 588-4695

       EAR/Rational
       http://www.xmission.com/~ear/

I just bought it for $15 (ick) at Tower. Mail order is fun but sometimes
I just have to hold the thing in my hands before I can figure out if I
want it.

While I'm on the subject, there is much more than a hint of
"Garlands"-era Cocteau Twins in their sound too, and maybe some of Opal's
spacier moments. Buy now!

__________
Jens Alfke  __________________
            [email protected]
                          ________________________________________
                          He wants a shoehorn, the kind with teeth
                         'Cause he knows there's no such thing.

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 18:52:32 -0800
From: Micah Newman ([email protected])
Subject: Re: cult of ray


        I've also listened to this 3 times so far, and I'd actually like
to withdraw some of my first impressions. It IS the least good Frank
Black album, no doubt about that. However, I still find it fairly
entertaining, and I think I will enjoy it more with time.
        There is something about this album that suggests Frank still knows
what he's doing, even if he chooses to convey a contrary impression. This
would be in keeping with his well-known "contempt for his audience".
Anyway, You've gotta love that instrumental rave-up "Mosh, Don't
Pass The Guy". At least I do. The chord changes are pure genius.

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:20:48 -0800
From: Jens Alfke ([email protected])
Subject: Bowery Electric, YES YES YES


In which Jens reviews

---> BOWERY ELECTRIC  s/t album  (Kranky)

WHEREAS I speak as someone who was immediately amazed and permanently
rearranged by Slowdive's first single ("Slowdive/Avalyn/Avalyn2"), and
WHEREAS I have been known to leave said CD-single on auto-repeat for
hours, and
WHEREAS I was mildly disappointed by everything else Slowdive ever did
except for the sublime but oh-so-different "Pygmalion",
THEREFORE BE IT KNOWN that Bowery Electric's album is everything I ever
wanted Slowdive to be based on that first single. (And it's almost 3
times as long!)

Song structure? Progression? Bowery Electric prove without doubt* that
you don't need them if you just pile on enough hyperspatially-flanged
guitar whooshing and fuzzed out basslines. And I mean that most
making my internal organs pop with delight and bliss. This is the best
thing I've ever heard on Kranky and that includes both Labradford albums
as well as Jessamine. I want to thank the 4AD-L people who reviewed this
and inculcated the name into my subconscious.

Now I backpedal a few steps and say that this is no mere Slowdive
knockoff, the actual guitar sounds are quite different (mostly this
flanged haze that displays very little variation from moment to moment
but whose sound is complex enough to stay interesting), there is no use
of harmony in the vocals, and the overall effect is much more ambient
than all but Slowdive's first and last releases. But Slowdive are an
obvious influence of theirs and Bowery Electric's trance-inducing opiate
effect picks up perfectly from where they left off. I've gotten mildly
tired of dreampop/shoegazer music and its by-now cliches, and have tossed
plenty of lame wannabes out of my discman, but Bowery Electric are a joy.


* some irony should be read into this phrase in light of previous
review-flames.

__________
Jens Alfke  __________________
            [email protected]
                          ________________________________________
                          He wants a shoehorn, the kind with teeth
                         'Cause he knows there's no such thing.


Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 13:00:21 -0800
From: Bradford Chamberlain ([email protected])
Subject: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe


I like this idea.  I decided to challenge myself and get from the
Rolling Stones to Kim Deal.  Then my office mates challenged me
to do Frank Sinatra, Love and Rockets, James Brown, and Led
Zeppelin.  No sweat.  Answers follow.

Enjoy!
-Brad

------------------------------

Rolling Stones -> Kim Deal

* the Rolling Stones are fronted by Mick Jagger
* Mick Jagger sang with the Jacksons on "Victory"
* Michael Jackson sang duet with Paul McCartney in "Say, Say, Say"
* Paul McCartney worked with John Lennon in an obscure group named
        "the Beatles"
* the Screaming Trees cover John Lennon's "Working Class Hero" on
        the recent tribute album of the same name
* Mark Lanegan is the lead singer of the Screaming Trees
* J. Mascis was a session musician on Mark Lanegan's solo album
        "Whisky For the Holy Ghost"
* J. Mascis sings a B-side version of "Do You Love Me Now?" as a
        duet with...  ***Kim Deal***!!!


Frank Sinatra -> Kim Deal

* Frank Sinatra sang "I've Got You Under My Skin" with Bono on his
        duets compilation
* Bono fronts U2
* U2 toured with the Pixies on their Achtung Baby tour
* the Pixies had a bassist named.... ***Kim Deal***!!!


Love and Rockets -> Kim Deal

* Love and Rockets came out of Bauhaus
* Bauhaus was fronted by Peter Murphy
* Peter Murphy had a remix of a song which featured Alison Limerick
        on backup vocals (or was it Deidre Rutkowski or Caroline
        Seaman?)
* Alison Limerick (or whoever) performed with This Mortal Coil on
        "Filligree and Shadow"
* This Mortal Coil's album "Blood" featured a version of "You and Your
        Sister by Tonya Donnely and....  ***Kim Deal***!!!


James Brown

* James Brown's drum track from "Funky Drummer" was sampled by Sinead
        O'Conner in "I Am Stretched on Your Grave"
* Sinead O'Conner recorded the vocals for "Heroine" with the Edge
* the Edge plays guitar with U2
* U2 toured with the Pixies (I hate to use this one twice...but...)
* the Pixies had a bassist named...  ***Kim Deal***


Led Zeppelin

* Led Zeppelin's track "When the Levee Breaks" was covered by Kristin
        Hersh and the "Your Ghost EP"
* Kristen Hersh plays in Throwing Muses which once contained Tanya
        Donnely
* Tanya Donnely was once in the Breeders which was fronted by...
        ***Kim Deal***!!!

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 15:10:57 EST-11
From: Tony PERSOGLIA ([email protected])
Subject: Off


Is it just me or has this list been deleted or have I been kicked
off. I haven't received any mail in the past 2 months. If there has
been some discussion could someone please mail me to prove it. This
would be much appreciated. Thanks.


----------------------------------------
 Kristin says: "The Rabbit's Dying"
 Tony says: "The Rabbit's Dead Kristin"
----------------------------------------

Tony Persoglia
[email protected]
Melbourne, Australia

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 22:13:45 -0800
From: Jack B Huynh ([email protected])
Subject: Cocteau Internet Chat Session


Hello Everyone,

As mentioned before, the cocteau twins are finally having that internet
chat session. the time is 430pm PST and it's sponsored by Hotwired. So go
to www.hotwired.com now and register for this event. There will be a
transcript of the session and pictures of the event at the web site if
you happen to miss the event. However, I believe they will also be using
Real Audio to broadcast some clips from the new album! So, I'll see you
there!

jack b huynh
                [email protected]


Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:03:39 +0000
From: Leee Beattie ([email protected])
Subject: Baraka on Video


Hi All

This my first attempt at a send so please forgive me if this goes haywire...

I have also not been keeping a particularly close eye on the listserv stuff,
exams to fail instead etx getting in the way so if this is old news then I also
apologise for that.

That's enough fawning for now so on with the story.

I have noticed many people talking about the film 'Baraka' and where it can be
obtained from.  On wandering aimlessly (heading for a pub, actually) through
the Picadilly Circus area of London I took a minor diversion into HMV -
Trocadero (I don't know why either).  Amongst the various other humerous
'bargains' piled up in the sale were many copies of Baraka, down from 17 pounds
to 10.99.

If anyone is interested it shouldn't be too difficult to get a copy as there
were shitloads dotted about the place: Street level in the bargainy bit,
upstairs in the Films section etc.

That's about it...

Leee ([email protected])

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 20:36:25 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records ([email protected])
Subject: Dewdrops scheduling


I think it's about time I brought up the fact that
it's been a hell of a long time since the last issue of
Dewdrops came out. Wasn't it August, or something?
Whatever it was, I wanted to assure everyone who
has a current subscription that I haven't forgotten you.
The next issue (#15) is well under way, half of the reviews
are written, I have an interview with Astrobrite done, and
one or two more interviews are planned. Inevitable delays
have been cropping up, involving some upcoming changes in staff,
but it really shouldn't be too much longer until #15 is done.
The next issue after that will feature some new faces,
new writers, a new "corporate identity" and other changes.
It's bound to be exciting! More details are coming up in a month
or two.

In the meantime, one of the interviews I've just set up is
with Daniel Figgis. Who's that, you say? Ages ago I posted a
review of his album Skipper, which is on Rough Trade. If not
for the fact that it was released in 1994, it would have topped my
Albums Of The Year list. I won't waste space by posting the
review again, but it'll end up linked to my web page by the
weekend. I think there is only one person on this list
besides me who has even heard this album, but I thought I'd ask
for input anyway. And for this one person (you know who you are!)
the good news is that Mr. Figgis is working on a new release for
the Big Cat label.

E-mail any questions, comments, home brew recipes,
or single malt scotch recommendations to
[email protected]. Note that the "eggneb" is no longer
required here.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

ps. Check out our ad in the new issue of The Big Takeover on
page 45.

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 00:23:47 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: more stuff for sale


pre-spring cleaning has found me with a few cd's/etc. of doubles and
duplicates and generally stuff I've considered no longer worth keeping.

if anyone is interested, please send offers/bids via private e-mail and not
to the list.

thanks!

Red House Painters - "Shock Me" e.p.
Various - "All Virgo's Are Mad" Still Sealed (2 available)
Insides - "Clearskin" 1 sealed, 1 mint (i.e. brand new, without the shrink
wrap)
Smiths - "Louder Than Bombs" (CD) excellent cond.
Doom Soundtrak (CD) case crack, otherwise mint
Enchanted - 4 track promo (jewel case is drilled in back into the UPC code)
Various - "Rare on Air...Volume2"  jewel case crack, otherwise mint.
Swallow - "Blow" still sealed
blacktapeforabluegirl - "this lush garden within" small case crack, otherwise
mint as well
TMC - "Come here my love" 10" - rare
Madder Rose - "Panic On" spine drilled - artwork intact.
hisnameisalive - "In Every Ford" 4AD(US) 5-track promo...jewel case is
cracked
Swallow - "Blowback" mint-
Various - "...think I'm Getting the hang of it"  mint+
Various - "Mai Pen Rai" mint+

i'm not sure if i want to part with this one yet, but perhaps the right bid
would persuade me:

Lonely Is An Eyesore  deluxe gatefold edition (12")this thing is absolutely
beautiful and mint with one tiny tiny exception...some twit placed a price
sticker directly on the face and when someone tried to peel it away, some of
the print came up with it...very small though (about 1/4" long, 1/20th"
high...hardly that big)  boy that pisses me off when people do that, they put
it in a plastic cover, but the price sticker is right on the damn artwork
itself.  some people eh?

anyway, like i said, most are doubles of what i already have, so it's not
like i'm loosing interest...just trying to get the cash flow going so i can
pay for my ltd.ed "rimy river" in march.  yippie!

-guern

             [email protected]


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 04:46:21 -0500
From: "J. Orr" ([email protected])
Subject: u-ziq [sic] & Kristin Hersh


---from Brett Boyd:

> They have sampled a Kristin Hersh song of her "Hips and
> Makers" album -- my thislisty contribution.

Is this, perchance, the "dance remix" (?) of "Your Ghost" that she mentioned
when she did her live-on-AOL interview around the time of the release of
_University_?  And even if not, is this song on _In_Pine_Effect_?

---Jeremy  ...who would really, really like
                            to be able to buy a lighter that
                            wasn't "childproof".


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 03:55:34 -0500
From: "John B. Jones" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe


Prince----> Kim Deal

* Prince recorded the song "Raspberry Beret" and other odd hits.
* Michael Stipe raves about Prince's music, and the rest of REM covered
"Raspberry Beret" on the HIndu Love Gods album.
* Kristin Hersh recorded with Michael Stipe on the song "Your Ghost" which
appeared on the solo Hips & Makers album.
* Kristin is also in a band called Throwing Muses
* Kristin's half sister, Tanya Donnely, was also in the band TM for awhile,
but left and joined the breeders for awhile.
* Kim Deal is in the breeders.
* KIM DEAL



. e-mail: [email protected]          NOT an abstract

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 02:09:53 -0800
From: Joel Krueger ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Cocteau Internet Chat Session


On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, Jack B Huynh wrote:

>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> As mentioned before, the cocteau twins are finally having that internet
> chat session. the time is 430pm PST and it's sponsored by Hotwired. So go
> to www.hotwired.com now and register for this event. There will be a
> transcript of the session and pictures of the event at the web site if
> you happen to miss the event. However, I believe they will also be using
> Real Audio to broadcast some clips from the new album! So, I'll see you
> there!
>
> jack b huynh
>               [email protected]
>
>
>
>

  When is this going to take place? You didn't give a date, and hotwired
doesn't have one, either,...

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:06:13 +0100
From: Giz Pettersson ([email protected])
Subject: Re: cult of ray


>picked up frank black's latest and after 3 listening i say, thumbs down.
>don't know what he is doing..... i don't get it - gone are the quirky
>lyrics, the 2 minute paeans to the dross of american culture - this
>seems to be his tribute to trex/transvestite bowie guitar licks... and
>seems to me that, with the exception of a few songs, there was no thought
>put into the lyrics at all - i'll be the first to admit i rarely catch what
>he is crooning about on the first (or second or third or ever) listening,
>but even when you couldn't get it you knew he was singing about something!
>
>i'm left thinking it's a bad joke on us - those who slavishly buy frank's
>output - the title - the cheesey guitar in the left channel (and the credits
>stating that mr. black's guitar is heard on the right... barely, i might
>add).... the "punk rock" song that sounds about as "punk" as 90 percent
>of AOR - the lyric 'melting rock into metal again?' .... don't do it for
>me, frankie.
>
>by the way, the homage to pixies lyrics to 'kicked in the taco' someone
>posted was the joke of some netter - the real taco is of a different
>flavor
>
Well, obviosly. Kim Deal Rules!
Breeders kick Francis in the butt!


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:56:00 -0800
From: Andy the Panda ([email protected])
Subject: stereolab tour us in april or may


er, don't know any more details. all i did is copy the information out of
the british music press which didn't list us dates (hardly surprising
really).

anyway, i went the extra mile and, from the stereolab web page, news

>From Martin at Duophonic 19-Jan-96:

The new single Cybele's Reverie released in the UK on Feb 19th.
The new LP Emperor Tomato Ketchup has a UK release date of 11th March and
probably about 3 weeks later in the US. Hopefully there will be a US
vinyl edition this time - not imported.

The UK tour should start on Feb 27th through to March 14th. Tortoise will
support on all the dates and Broadcast will be added to the bill for the
London show. European, Japanese and US dates will follow during April and
May.

The band are recording a John Peel session in the next few weeks
broadcast date is unknown at the moment. (it's 24th feb and guest stars
sonic boom by all accounts - acd)

There will be a new Lab Report out soon so if anyone wants a copy then
please send two International Reply Coupons [IRCs] to the PO Box Number.
(which is DUOPHONIC/Martin, P.O. Box 3787, London, SE22 9DZ, ENGLAND)

ok, stereolab page for those of you who don't know is

it's an unofficial page but it's well supported and martin duophonic
knows about it and is pretty forthcoming with his information. (beware
though that robin, the site maintainer, is away for the next month and a
half and probably won't reply for a while)

martin duophonic's email address is [email protected] but i
guess he won't be too happy to be bombarded for information he probably
doesn't know so use some discretion.
--
andyx ([email protected])


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 07:15:42 -0500
From: Larry Koch ([email protected])
Subject: Jens' spelling


>>Sounds like really interesting shit and I demand that someone review it for me
>>so I can criticise their subjectivity and spelling.
>
>Umm, Jens, you mispelled "criticize"

Not necessarily. He could have been pretending to be from any
English-speaking country other than the US.

mandatory index finger point and thumb extended upward like a makeshift gun>

And *you* misspelled "misspelled" AND "cheesy"

Larry, who thinks Bowery Electric are ehhh, okay, but they're no Jessamine

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 13:46:50 -0800
From: Robert Pietrusko ([email protected])
Subject: Re: non 4ad-- people in bands please read


hello hello!

i would love to swap tapes. i can send you one this weekend, if you
send me your address. we don't have a name as of yet, because we had to
reform (two new members). but one of our new guitarist is amazing,
making the tape sound even worse compared to us live. hehe. i'm pretty
sure that we are going to call it Splashdown though. eeeeek, please
please please keep in mind about what i told you about the cheese
factor. ie. producer's added touches, and the fact he made us record
our four poppiest numbers .

oh yeah, anyway my address is:

bobb Pietrusko
810 W. King Rd.
Malvern, PA
19355

take care and good luck.

                -bobb.


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:12:08 +0000
From: "That would be telling ..." ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Jens' spelling


> >>Sounds like really interesting shit and I demand that someone review it for 
e
> >>so I can criticise their subjectivity and spelling.
> >
> >Umm, Jens, you mispelled "criticize"
>
> Not necessarily. He could have been pretending to be from any
> English-speaking country other than the US.
>

Like England?


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 07:05:01 -0800
From: David Mccallum ([email protected])
Subject: Re: lfo Cave releases


        Are the new LFO and Nick Cave out now or are people talking about
advance copies they are somehow getting a hold of?  Does LFO have a
licensing agreement with some company here in the states or will I have
to pay hefty import prices?

        Thanks,
        David.


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:58:47 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor ([email protected])
Subject: Tinkerbell


i kinda get an earache from the Single Girl version of Tinkerbell,
(although i'm used to it now) but the Volume version is beautiful in
comparison.  i didn't like it much before, but in comparison, i'm kinda
grateful.  :)

lushislor




> p.p.s. anyone else think tinkerbell was one of the worst tracks lush
> ever put out. twice?!
>

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:52:23 -0500
From: lorelei tremolor ([email protected])
Subject: Re: lfo: advance & Lush, Stereolab


i have In Pine Effect!  It's a great album- it's very different from your
average trance/techno album...it's almost got jungle influences, but then
comes off as too electronic to be jungle.

i got it at the Heathrow airport right before i flew back to new york
because i didn't know it was available in the us- i'd never been able to
find u-ziq here before- but they have it at mondo kim's for like $8.  i
got it for the only song i knew on it, called "Roy Castle," which is the
prettiest climactic electro dance song.........

*lorelei


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:22:58 -0500
From: Andrew Chapin ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe


That is beautiful.  I'm overly impressed with your skill.

Try some rap (yuk) group or how "bout some "ol' school" like Run DMC of young mc


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:55:40 CST
From: the boy in zinc ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe


>Rolling Stones -> Kim Deal
>
>* the Rolling Stones are fronted by Mick Jagger
>* Mick Jagger sang with the Jacksons on "Victory"
>* Michael Jackson sang duet with Paul McCartney in "Say, Say, Say"
>* Paul McCartney worked with John Lennon in an obscure group named
>        "the Beatles"
>* the Screaming Trees cover John Lennon's "Working Class Hero" on
>        the recent tribute album of the same name
>* Mark Lanegan is the lead singer of the Screaming Trees
>* J. Mascis was a session musician on Mark Lanegan's solo album
>        "Whisky For the Holy Ghost"
>* J. Mascis sings a B-side version of "Do You Love Me Now?" as a
>        duet with...  ***Kim Deal***!!!

or instead of going with the screaming trees route, you could just say that
the breeders covered "happiness is a warm gun."

BiZ


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:30:58 -0800
From: Jack B Huynh ([email protected])
Subject: Cocteau Chat Session again...


Opps. Forgot to mention that it is happening next monday on the 12th of feb.

jack b huynh
                [email protected]


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:57:54 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: tortoise?


has anyone heard the new tortoise album, its got a rather lengthy title, good,
bad...anyone?

bryan


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:38:45 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe


How about Stina Nordenstam and Kim Deal?? Huh?  Let's see you do that one!

marvynHortman

PS The Stina site is pretty close to being done.  I found someone else who had
already gotten a good ways into creating a site for her, so rather than compete
I decided to help him out instead.  It's at http://www.charm.net/~totoro/stina1.
tml

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:47:07 -0500
From: Joseph Burns ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe

>

love and rockets is much easier -
they toured with the pixies!

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 17:05:21 -0500
From: Quinn Devine ([email protected])
Subject: lush lovelife cd giveaway


now i know why ATN had that ladykillers video clip
they're using it for a page to promote the album
and you can also answer a little quiz to try to win
a copy of Lovelife.  A couple of the questions are
actually kinda tough.

check it out:

-qd

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 17:19:20 -0600
From: the boy in zinc ([email protected])
Subject: run dmc to kim deal (easy!)


>That is beautiful.  I'm overly impressed with your skill.
>
>Try some rap (yuk) group or how "bout some "ol' school" like Run DMC of
>young mc

that one's easy:

run dmc and aerosmith did a duet of walk this way.
the breeders covered aerosmith's "lord of the thighs" on the cannonball ep.
kim deal is in the breeders.


BiZ


Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 18:01:02 -0600
From: mike lawyer ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe


>
>Rolling Stones -> Kim Deal
>
>* the Rolling Stones are fronted by Mick Jagger
>* Mick Jagger sang with the Jacksons on "Victory"
>* Michael Jackson sang duet with Paul McCartney in "Say, Say, Say"
>* Paul McCartney worked with John Lennon in an obscure group named
>        "the Beatles"
>* the Screaming Trees cover John Lennon's "Working Class Hero" on
>        the recent tribute album of the same name
>* Mark Lanegan is the lead singer of the Screaming Trees
>* J. Mascis was a session musician on Mark Lanegan's solo album
>        "Whisky For the Holy Ghost"
>* J. Mascis sings a B-side version of "Do You Love Me Now?" as a
>        duet with...  ***Kim Deal***!!!
>
>

There's a much faster way to do this one, the breeders did an amazing cover
of Happpiness is a Warm Gun, buy the obscure band mentioned above. I must
confess that I am amazed and impressed at the rest of your connections
though.

/-=-\/-=-\/-=-\/-=-\/-=-\/-=-\/-=-\/-=-\
On monday when the sun is hot
I wonder to my self a lot
"Is it true, or is it not,
That what is which, and which is what?"
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
/\/\/\/\/\[email protected]/\/\/\/\/\
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-mike (or not as the case may be)

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:37:28 -0500
From: Michael Hauben ([email protected])
Subject: Dub Syndicate tour dates from pollstar


Found this at www.pollstar.com
Sorry for all the confusion.
     _________________________________________________________________

Concert Information for Dub Syndicate

Date      City                   State   Venue
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
02/01/96  W.Hollywood           CA      Troubadour
02/02/96  SaltLakeCity          UT      Horticultural Center
02/03/96  Durango               CO      Stage Coach Ballroom
02/04/96  Telluride             CO      One World Cafe
02/05/96  Albuquerque           NM      El Rey Theatre
02/06/96  ElPaso                TX      Attic
02/07/96  Austin                TX      Flamingo Cantina
02/08/96  NewOrleans            LA      House Of Blues
02/09/96  St.Louis              MO      Galaxy
02/10/96  Chicago               IL      Metro
02/11/96  Detroit               MI      St. Andrews Hall
02/12/96  Toronto               ONT     Lee's Palace
02/13/96  Rochester             NY      Water Street Music Hall
02/14/96  NewYork               NY      S.O.B.'s
02/16/96  Matunuck              RI      Ocean Mist
02/17/96  Boston                MA      Mama Kin
02/18/96  Burlington            VT      Club Toast
02/19/96  Portland              ME      Raoul's
02/20/96  NewLondon             CT      El-N-Gee Club
02/21/96  Washington            DC      Black Cat
02/24/96  Norfolk               VA      To Be Announced
02/25/96  ChapelHill            NC      To Be Announced
02/27/96  Atlanta               GA      To Be Announced
02/28/96  Gainesville           FL      To Be Announced
02/29/96  Tampa                 FL      To Be Announced
03/01/96  Miami                 FL      To Be Announced


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