Subject: Re: Toward the Within
Subject: Toward the Within etc.
Subject: Re: Bowery Electric, YES YES YES
Subject: Re: Bowery Electric, YES YES YES
Subject: Re: cult of ray
Subject: Bowery Electric, YES YES YES
Subject: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Subject: Off
Subject: Cocteau Internet Chat Session
Subject: Baraka on Video
Subject: Dewdrops scheduling
Subject: more stuff for sale
Subject: u-ziq [sic] & Kristin Hersh
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Subject: Re: Cocteau Internet Chat Session
Subject: Re: cult of ray
Subject: stereolab tour us in april or may
Subject: Jens' spelling
Subject: Re: non 4ad-- people in bands please read
Subject: Re: Jens' spelling
Subject: Re: lfo Cave releases
Subject: Tinkerbell
Subject: Re: lfo: advance & Lush, Stereolab
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Subject: Cocteau Chat Session again...
Subject: tortoise?
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Subject: lush lovelife cd giveaway
Subject: run dmc to kim deal (easy!)
Subject: Re: Kim Deal is the Center of the Music Universe
Subject: Dub Syndicate tour dates from pollstar
Andrew Massey wrote: >I'm sick of his unjustified (that I have seen) slagging of the latter >beautiful album whenever he can seem to fit a dig at it in. I'm glad to say >I know that I don't see eye-to-eye with such a poor judge of people, music, >importance of role playing games, and especially self-worth; but I wonder >what other people's views on this album are. Am I alone in thinking that it >is one of the top two or three albums which 4AD have released? I wouldn't >think so - but who knows. Apart from the messy Cantara, which is it's only >downpoint for me, the whole glow of this album hits me for six everytime. >Rakim is so huge a sound. Sanvean is sung so heartfeltly (I realise that >this is not a word before the flames start) that it could not be bettered >in the studio for her album. And Don't Fade Away shimmers long after it >finishes, as the crowd at the recording acknowledge in their wondrous >applause. What more could be asked for? >Andie Have to agree with you (up to a point - I wouldn't go as far to say its up there in a top 3). Especially after the sprawling mess of Into The Labyrinth, it came like a breath of fresh air. Sanvean, Don't Fade Away and American Dreaming are worth the entry fee alone. So you're not alone. - Dez PS If anyone is thinking on getting Volume 15 solely on the strength of the Cocteau Twins track - don't bother. It's one of the worst tracks on there. So predictable, so tedious, so damned irritating. Split up - you're making fools of yourselves. The rest of the CD is pretty good though, particularly the tracks by Solid and Joi (mixed by Spring Heel Jack). The Scheer track is pretty ordinary (ie 50 times better than the Cocteau Twins track) Soundtrack to life - Moloko - Dominoid; Tortoise - Djed; LFO - Kombat Drinking; ROC - X-Line; Disco Inferno - Lost In Fog
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>Einexile spouted in his usual supercilious fashion:
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>I think the Lush singles are the worst 4AD releases since
>Ocean Beach if not Toward the Within.
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>I'm sick of his unjustified (that I have seen) slagging of the latter
>beautiful album whenever he can seem to fit a dig at it in. I'm glad to say
>I know that I don't see eye-to-eye with such a poor judge of people, music,
>importance of role playing games, and especially self-worth; but I wonder
>what other people's views on this album are. Am I alone in thinking that it
>is one of the top two or three albums which 4AD have released? I wouldn't
>think so - but who knows. Apart from the messy Cantara, which is it's only
>downpoint for me, the whole glow of this album hits me for six everytime.
'Fraid I'll have to come to His Meekness' defense here -- I felt it
imperative urge to jump in when "Toward The Within" is cited as one of 4AD's
top 2-3 records, and then "Cantara" is slammed. "Cantara" had always
glowingly been the best part of that live album IMO, one of the album's few
redeeming features. Messy? Try unique, non-formulaic, visionary. i.e. the
song progresses ethereally towards a climax very unlike most western song
structure. And unlike Brendon's formulaic folkish tunes on there. (Check out
the original -- more subdued, but also powerful.)
Certainly I'm not saying that my tastes are "right," and Andrew's "wrong";
(one feels the need to disclaimer-ly acknowledge plurality and
relativity...) it just drives in deeper the fact that opinions on this list
can be _so_ different, sometimes evenly opposite on broad topics. (I still
think it can usually be boiled down to one main dichotomy of fans...)
Also, though I shouldn't speak for Einexile, I think that to what extend his
posts are "supercilious," they are so in a more tongue-in-cheek tone than
some people are interpreting. (correct me if ah'm wrong, e) At least for
myself, I enjoy e's posts and the ensuing kicked-up-dust.
different animals. The first, more surreal, otherworldly; the second, more
earthly and accessible. I like it all ('cept for ditties like "American
Girl"), but prefer -- and miss -- the former.
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> At 12:20 PM 2/7/96 -0800, you wrote: > >In which Jens reviews > > > >---> BOWERY ELECTRIC s/t album (Kranky) > > > > I have an address for Kranky Records (P. O. Box 578743, Chicago, 60657), but > do not have a phone number and do not know how much this CD costs. Could > someone clue me in on the cost of the CD (plus shipping) or supply the phone > number of Kranky? Thanks much. > The CD is $11 ppd. in the US. Their ad in Speed Kills says taht a check or money order to above address will get you the CD. Brett
>I have an address for Kranky Records (P. O. Box 578743, Chicago, 60657), but
>do not have a phone number and do not know how much this CD costs. Could
Parasol, Vinyl Ink and/or EAR/Rational should have it. Phone numbers for
the first two and a Web page for the latter are in the FAQ:
Parasol
202 S. First
Champaign, IL
61820 USA
(217) 355-2555
Vinyl Ink
955 Bonifant St.
Silver Spring, MD
20910 USA
(301) 588-4695
EAR/Rational
http://www.xmission.com/~ear/
I just bought it for $15 (ick) at Tower. Mail order is fun but sometimes
I just have to hold the thing in my hands before I can figure out if I
want it.
While I'm on the subject, there is much more than a hint of
"Garlands"-era Cocteau Twins in their sound too, and maybe some of Opal's
spacier moments. Buy now!
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Jens Alfke __________________
jens@mooseyard.com
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He wants a shoehorn, the kind with teeth
'Cause he knows there's no such thing.
I've also listened to this 3 times so far, and I'd actually like
to withdraw some of my first impressions. It IS the least good Frank
Black album, no doubt about that. However, I still find it fairly
entertaining, and I think I will enjoy it more with time.
There is something about this album that suggests Frank still knows
what he's doing, even if he chooses to convey a contrary impression. This
would be in keeping with his well-known "contempt for his audience".
Anyway, You've gotta love that instrumental rave-up "Mosh, Don't
Pass The Guy". At least I do. The chord changes are pure genius.
In which Jens reviews
---> BOWERY ELECTRIC s/t album (Kranky)
WHEREAS I speak as someone who was immediately amazed and permanently
rearranged by Slowdive's first single ("Slowdive/Avalyn/Avalyn2"), and
WHEREAS I have been known to leave said CD-single on auto-repeat for
hours, and
WHEREAS I was mildly disappointed by everything else Slowdive ever did
except for the sublime but oh-so-different "Pygmalion",
THEREFORE BE IT KNOWN that Bowery Electric's album is everything I ever
wanted Slowdive to be based on that first single. (And it's almost 3
times as long!)
Song structure? Progression? Bowery Electric prove without doubt* that
you don't need them if you just pile on enough hyperspatially-flanged
guitar whooshing and fuzzed out basslines. And I mean that most
making my internal organs pop with delight and bliss. This is the best
thing I've ever heard on Kranky and that includes both Labradford albums
as well as Jessamine. I want to thank the 4AD-L people who reviewed this
and inculcated the name into my subconscious.
Now I backpedal a few steps and say that this is no mere Slowdive
knockoff, the actual guitar sounds are quite different (mostly this
flanged haze that displays very little variation from moment to moment
but whose sound is complex enough to stay interesting), there is no use
of harmony in the vocals, and the overall effect is much more ambient
than all but Slowdive's first and last releases. But Slowdive are an
obvious influence of theirs and Bowery Electric's trance-inducing opiate
effect picks up perfectly from where they left off. I've gotten mildly
tired of dreampop/shoegazer music and its by-now cliches, and have tossed
plenty of lame wannabes out of my discman, but Bowery Electric are a joy.
* some irony should be read into this phrase in light of previous
review-flames.
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Jens Alfke __________________
jens@mooseyard.com
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He wants a shoehorn, the kind with teeth
'Cause he knows there's no such thing.
I like this idea. I decided to challenge myself and get from the
Rolling Stones to Kim Deal. Then my office mates challenged me
to do Frank Sinatra, Love and Rockets, James Brown, and Led
Zeppelin. No sweat. Answers follow.
Enjoy!
-Brad
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Rolling Stones -> Kim Deal
* the Rolling Stones are fronted by Mick Jagger
* Mick Jagger sang with the Jacksons on "Victory"
* Michael Jackson sang duet with Paul McCartney in "Say, Say, Say"
* Paul McCartney worked with John Lennon in an obscure group named
"the Beatles"
* the Screaming Trees cover John Lennon's "Working Class Hero" on
the recent tribute album of the same name
* Mark Lanegan is the lead singer of the Screaming Trees
* J. Mascis was a session musician on Mark Lanegan's solo album
"Whisky For the Holy Ghost"
* J. Mascis sings a B-side version of "Do You Love Me Now?" as a
duet with... ***Kim Deal***!!!
Frank Sinatra -> Kim Deal
* Frank Sinatra sang "I've Got You Under My Skin" with Bono on his
duets compilation
* Bono fronts U2
* U2 toured with the Pixies on their Achtung Baby tour
* the Pixies had a bassist named.... ***Kim Deal***!!!
Love and Rockets -> Kim Deal
* Love and Rockets came out of Bauhaus
* Bauhaus was fronted by Peter Murphy
* Peter Murphy had a remix of a song which featured Alison Limerick
on backup vocals (or was it Deidre Rutkowski or Caroline
Seaman?)
* Alison Limerick (or whoever) performed with This Mortal Coil on
"Filligree and Shadow"
* This Mortal Coil's album "Blood" featured a version of "You and Your
Sister by Tonya Donnely and.... ***Kim Deal***!!!
James Brown
* James Brown's drum track from "Funky Drummer" was sampled by Sinead
O'Conner in "I Am Stretched on Your Grave"
* Sinead O'Conner recorded the vocals for "Heroine" with the Edge
* the Edge plays guitar with U2
* U2 toured with the Pixies (I hate to use this one twice...but...)
* the Pixies had a bassist named... ***Kim Deal***
Led Zeppelin
* Led Zeppelin's track "When the Levee Breaks" was covered by Kristin
Hersh and the "Your Ghost EP"
* Kristen Hersh plays in Throwing Muses which once contained Tanya
Donnely
* Tanya Donnely was once in the Breeders which was fronted by...
***Kim Deal***!!!
Is it just me or has this list been deleted or have I been kicked off. I haven't received any mail in the past 2 months. If there has been some discussion could someone please mail me to prove it. This would be much appreciated. Thanks. ---------------------------------------- Kristin says: "The Rabbit's Dying" Tony says: "The Rabbit's Dead Kristin" ---------------------------------------- Tony Persoglia tonyp@cobus.bf.rmit.edu.au Melbourne, Australia
Hello Everyone,
As mentioned before, the cocteau twins are finally having that internet
chat session. the time is 430pm PST and it's sponsored by Hotwired. So go
to www.hotwired.com now and register for this event. There will be a
transcript of the session and pictures of the event at the web site if
you happen to miss the event. However, I believe they will also be using
Real Audio to broadcast some clips from the new album! So, I'll see you
there!
jack b huynh
jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu
Hi All This my first attempt at a send so please forgive me if this goes haywire... I have also not been keeping a particularly close eye on the listserv stuff, exams to fail instead etx getting in the way so if this is old news then I also apologise for that. That's enough fawning for now so on with the story. I have noticed many people talking about the film 'Baraka' and where it can be obtained from. On wandering aimlessly (heading for a pub, actually) through the Picadilly Circus area of London I took a minor diversion into HMV - Trocadero (I don't know why either). Amongst the various other humerous 'bargains' piled up in the sale were many copies of Baraka, down from 17 pounds to 10.99. If anyone is interested it shouldn't be too difficult to get a copy as there were shitloads dotted about the place: Street level in the bargainy bit, upstairs in the Films section etc. That's about it... Leee (ozfec@wmin.ac.uk)
I think it's about time I brought up the fact that it's been a hell of a long time since the last issue of Dewdrops came out. Wasn't it August, or something? Whatever it was, I wanted to assure everyone who has a current subscription that I haven't forgotten you. The next issue (#15) is well under way, half of the reviews are written, I have an interview with Astrobrite done, and one or two more interviews are planned. Inevitable delays have been cropping up, involving some upcoming changes in staff, but it really shouldn't be too much longer until #15 is done. The next issue after that will feature some new faces, new writers, a new "corporate identity" and other changes. It's bound to be exciting! More details are coming up in a month or two. In the meantime, one of the interviews I've just set up is with Daniel Figgis. Who's that, you say? Ages ago I posted a review of his album Skipper, which is on Rough Trade. If not for the fact that it was released in 1994, it would have topped my Albums Of The Year list. I won't waste space by posting the review again, but it'll end up linked to my web page by the weekend. I think there is only one person on this list besides me who has even heard this album, but I thought I'd ask for input anyway. And for this one person (you know who you are!) the good news is that Mr. Figgis is working on a new release for the Big Cat label. E-mail any questions, comments, home brew recipes, or single malt scotch recommendations to nelson@astro.ucla.edu. Note that the "eggneb" is no longer required here. | Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes | Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies | Uncommon music that deserves to be heard | | http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html ps. Check out our ad in the new issue of The Big Takeover on page 45.
pre-spring cleaning has found me with a few cd's/etc. of doubles and
duplicates and generally stuff I've considered no longer worth keeping.
if anyone is interested, please send offers/bids via private e-mail and not
to the list.
thanks!
Red House Painters - "Shock Me" e.p.
Various - "All Virgo's Are Mad" Still Sealed (2 available)
Insides - "Clearskin" 1 sealed, 1 mint (i.e. brand new, without the shrink
wrap)
Smiths - "Louder Than Bombs" (CD) excellent cond.
Doom Soundtrak (CD) case crack, otherwise mint
Enchanted - 4 track promo (jewel case is drilled in back into the UPC code)
Various - "Rare on Air...Volume2" jewel case crack, otherwise mint.
Swallow - "Blow" still sealed
blacktapeforabluegirl - "this lush garden within" small case crack, otherwise
mint as well
TMC - "Come here my love" 10" - rare
Madder Rose - "Panic On" spine drilled - artwork intact.
hisnameisalive - "In Every Ford" 4AD(US) 5-track promo...jewel case is
cracked
Swallow - "Blowback" mint-
Various - "...think I'm Getting the hang of it" mint+
Various - "Mai Pen Rai" mint+
i'm not sure if i want to part with this one yet, but perhaps the right bid
would persuade me:
Lonely Is An Eyesore deluxe gatefold edition (12")this thing is absolutely
beautiful and mint with one tiny tiny exception...some twit placed a price
sticker directly on the face and when someone tried to peel it away, some of
the print came up with it...very small though (about 1/4" long, 1/20th"
high...hardly that big) boy that pisses me off when people do that, they put
it in a plastic cover, but the price sticker is right on the damn artwork
itself. some people eh?
anyway, like i said, most are doubles of what i already have, so it's not
like i'm loosing interest...just trying to get the cash flow going so i can
pay for my ltd.ed "rimy river" in march. yippie!
-guern
guernica@aol.com