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Subject: DubSyndicate Dates
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:22:59 -0500
From: Michael Hauben (hauben@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lovelife sleeve design
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:58:27 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: My Bloody Valentine, the movie
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:05:41 -0600
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Pre-order Confirm...
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:43:54 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Re: 1995 POLL: ALL READ THIS, PLEASE
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 19:37:24 -0800
From: aka Wavequeen (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Toward the Within
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 16:51:57 -0500
From: Steve Willett (willett@NI.UMD.EDU)
Subject: please help id amps 7"
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 22:25:52 -0600
From: "I love carrots.." (z919758@RICE.FARM.NIU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Toward the Within
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 11:35:33 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Toward the Within
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 00:44:53 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: ESP-Summer 10"
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 17:13:25 -0600
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: Toward the Within
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 19:18:06 -0800
From: aka Wavequeen (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Toward the Within & CD/vinyl
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 23:35:28 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Re: Lovelife sleeve design
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 00:30:01 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: Circling Girl
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 19:15:31 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Going crazy...must sells CDs
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 06:57:03 -0800
From: David Stack (dstack@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: RHP's ocean beach slag
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 02:47:42 -0400
From: K- (ash@dhp.com)
Subject: Lush's Lovelife
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 01:57:08 -0400
From: K- (ash@dhp.com)
Subject: Re: lfo: advance & Lush, Stereolab
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:41:33 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Stereolab British Tour Dates
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 10:25:52 -0800
From: Andy the Panda (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: 1995 POLL: ALL READ THIS, PLEASE
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 06:29:21 -0500
From: GREGG AGINS (clockone@PIPELINE.COM)
Subject: FS: 4ad + Creation, Sarah 7" collection and lots more
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 06:48:43 EST
From: Ralf Henneking (100563.2165@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: Kendra Smith
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:52:26 -0500
From: Don Francisco (dcisco@SSNET.COM)
Subject: New Tortoise
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 07:54:40 -0600
From: Chad Burkey (burkey@CSTAR.AC.COM)
Subject: cult of ray
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 07:29:06 EST
From: "Scott Davies (295-7039)" (sdavies@VNET.IBM.COM)
Subject: Re: Stereolab British Tour Dates
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:26:33 -0500
From: A guy named Chris (mm211595@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Che Records / urusei yatsura
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:30:23 -0800
From: Andy the Panda (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Che Records
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:10:37 +0000
From: Richard Clemens (Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Questions:Vinyl/Acetate,Projekt,GLJ,Stina
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 08:39:47 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Going crazy...must sells CDs
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 10:53:16 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Heavenly Bodies...
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 08:30:06 -0600
From: Holly Emmer (hemmer@RRGROUP.COM)
Subject: the infamous "unsuscribe"
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 11:34:29 -0800
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Disco Inferno / Nick Cave / etc
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 10:05:29 -0500
From: "Scorpio M." (99barwik@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bowery Electric, YES YES YES
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:45:52 -0600
From: Rich Nelson (nelson-r@UIUC.EDU)
Subject: New Rocketship
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 14:20:09 EST
From: "Matthew A. Neimark" (mattn@MIT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Going crazy...must sells CDs
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 11:05:23 -0800
From: David Stack (dstack@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Solid State
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:11:33 -0500
From: Andrew Chapin (chapina@ALLEG.EDU)
Subject: Re: Stereolab British Tour Dates
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:09:27 -0800
From: Bjork Gudmundsdottir (thuyenqu@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: The Other Site 2.0
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 22:09:59 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: My Bloody Valentine, the movie
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:56:06 -0700
From: Brett Boyd (BOYDB@VAX4.CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Che Records / urusei yatsura
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:17:40 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: lfo: advance & Lush, Stereolab
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:50:26 -0700
From: Brett Boyd (BOYDB@VAX4.CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Pre-order Confirm...
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:37:44 -0800
From: aka Wavequeen (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)

Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:22:59 -0500
From: Michael Hauben (hauben@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: DubSyndicate Dates


My posting for the DubSyndicate show was incorrect - just got a
card from SOBs in NYC and the date is February 14, and not February 28.

So you might want to call the venues listed to check when the
band is coming through.

Sorry for any confusion, and if I find any more up-to-date
listing I will try and send it through. Please try to do the same.

 -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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 Netizens Cyberstop

Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:58:27 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Lovelife sleeve design


>various images, including cover of Lovelife
>
>I don't think ATN necessarily wanted anyone to see these yet.



Is v23 going 'back to the basis'? I hope this isn't the actual sleeve, anyone co
ld have made this.
If the packaging tells you what's inside, well - in this case - it couldn't de m
ch...

But see for yourself.

Didn't want to download 3MB of Quicktime data, is the video any good?




Emiel Efdee

the Netherlands, February 6, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl


Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:05:41 -0600
From: Martin Wagner (hepcats@EDEN.COM)
Subject: Re: My Bloody Valentine, the movie


On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Brett Boyd wrote:

> This flick was a psychoanalytic joy to watch.  I mean if you want to research
> how movie makers of the early 80's attempted to play upon the insecurities
> and identity structures of adolescent males and females (esp. Canadian),  watc

> this movie.

> "The parental (and cultural) values hidden in deep in the pre-pubescent mind,
> i.e. ages 2-10 years, are suddenly activated by the increased activity of the
> burgeoning sexuality of the teenager.  The values they are combatting are as
> illusive yet as pernicious to their intended goals of pleasure (particularly
> sexual) as the vicious psychopath that is slaughtering them.  Thus we saw
> the meta-refferential structure of the adolescents terror to the mechanisms of
> the movie My Bloody Valentine (that should read "terror mirrored by the mech-
> anisms").

Yes, but were there any good butt-shots? :)

Martin

Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:43:54 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Pre-order Confirm...


Hi.. hope you have received my fax yesterday, with VISA informations.

You can add the double amber vinyl _Stereolab_ if it's available,
not the CD nor the domestic lp please.

Oh... add also Morrissey & Marr - The Severed Alliance, if it's only $4.

So, my total amount should be quite 38 - 40$ (without postage), for:

Stereolab _Switched On vol II_ Double amber vinyl
Volume 15 _CD+CD-ROM_
Morrissey & Marr - The Severed Alliance

Thanks.

                      ___
Laurent Lapierre     |-,-| Tonight a "new" CD (thanks for present, Fred)
lapierre@micronet.fr | - |        My Life Story _...Mornington Crescent_

Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 19:37:24 -0800
From: aka Wavequeen (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: 1995 POLL: ALL READ THIS, PLEASE


You wrote:
>
>> > Remember, voting will end on Valentine's Day.
>>
>> Uhm.   When's that, then?
>
>February 14. It's another bullshit American holiday created by
greeting
>card companies to ensure decent first-quarter earnings.
>
>Happily cynical,
>Martin
>
actually it had a lot more to do with some martyr and then a gangsta
and then the card companies and flower growers and the vistoria secrets
took over.  yes i'm bitter, i've never received valentine's flowers or
a card from people other than my relatives...so sad  cheers, euthelene
who has her paste and scissors, glitter and crayons all out to make
valentines, YEAH

Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 16:51:57 -0500
From: Steve Willett (willett@NI.UMD.EDU)
Subject: Re: Toward the Within

              <9602060512.AA19619@halcon.laguna.ual.mx>

>
> Piece for solo flute) the album is a complete triumph. Don=B4t fade away is
> It=B4s just my opinion...

I too thought Toward The Within was a great disc for a while.  Then I
stumbled across a couple of the DCD bootlegs.  While the quality of the
actual recording is not as good (and no there is no popcorn rumblings or
people talking into the mic) the performances and song selections are
IMHO superior.  Anyone who can get past the not-pristine audio (but very
listenable) should check out "Dark Christmas".  I have one other on tape
but can't remember the name.  I've seen a number of others around, too.


Steve

Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 22:25:52 -0600
From: "I love carrots.." (z919758@RICE.FARM.NIU.EDU)
Subject: please help id amps 7"


I picked up an interesting item yesterday, and was wondering just what
the hell it is!!

It's a 7" in a plain white paper sleeve.
it has a black label that says the same on both sides:

the amps  bragging party
1995, made in england

the interesting thing is that even though it was made in the uk, it has
both the 4ad logo and the elektra logo.-- I thought that the amps were
like all of deal's bands (pixies, breeders...) on 4ad in the uk, and
distributed in the usa by elektra...

please someone help me....

thanks
steve
maddrose@niu.edu


Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 11:35:33 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Toward the Within


        I'm with you on Toward The Within! A great live album; truly
inspired and compelling.

On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Andrew Massey wrote:

> Einexile spouted in his usual supercilious fashion:
>
> >I think the Lush singles are the worst 4AD releases since
> >Ocean Beach if not Toward the Within.
>
> I'm sick of his unjustified (that I have seen) slagging of the latter
> beautiful album whenever he can seem to fit a dig at it in. I'm glad to say
> I know that I don't see eye-to-eye with such a poor judge of people, music,
> importance of role playing games, and especially self-worth; but I wonder
> what other people's views on this album are. Am I alone in thinking that it
> is one of the top two or three albums which 4AD have released? I wouldn't
> think so - but who knows. Apart from the messy Cantara, which is it's only
> downpoint for me, the whole glow of this album hits me for six everytime.
> Rakim is so huge a sound. Sanvean is sung so heartfeltly (I realise that
> this is not a word before the flames start) that it could not be bettered
> in the studio for her album. And Don't Fade Away shimmers long after it
> finishes, as the crowd at the recording acknowledge in their wondrous
> applause. What more could be asked for?
>
> Andie
>

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 00:44:53 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Toward the Within


though not on the point of TTW, I agree with you whole heartedly on other
points.

Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 17:13:25 -0600
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: ESP-Summer 10"


>For thos of you still having a hard time finding this litle gem and unable to
>arrange anything with Farrago directly, then turn your attention to Desirable
>Discs II in Dearborn, MI.  They had 2 (as of yesterday) still on hand and
>priced at $8.99 each.

"Unable to arrange anything with Farrago directly"?!!!!  :)

Okay, I promise this is going to be the absolute last plug for the 10" here,
so...

ESP Summer 10"s are available directly thru Farrago Records.  They're going
for $6.50 each, which includes postage for domestic US orders (send me
e-mail to hash out the international postage bit).  Our snailmail address is:

Farrago Records
P.O. Box 13148
Houston, Texas 77219

And make checks out to Farrago.

And for those of you somewhat confused on the matter:
farrago@delphi.com = hk@neosoft.com

Again, I apologize for the rampant net.mercantilism....

Cheers,


hk
--
hk kahng | hk@neosoft.com & farrago@delphi.com
         | http://www.neosoft.com/~hk/home.htm

Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 19:18:06 -0800
From: aka Wavequeen (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Toward the Within


You wrote:
>
>Einexile spouted in his usual supercilious fashion:
>
>>I think the Lush singles are the worst 4AD releases since
>>Ocean Beach if not Toward the Within.
>
>I'm sick of his unjustified (that I have seen) slagging of the latter
>beautiful album whenever he can seem to fit a dig at it in. I'm glad
to say
>I know that I don't see eye-to-eye with such a poor judge of people,
music,
>importance of role playing games, and especially self-worth; but I
wonder
>what other people's views on this album are. Am I alone in thinking
that it
>is one of the top two or three albums which 4AD have released? I
wouldn't
>think so - but who knows. Apart from the messy Cantara, which is it's
only
>downpoint for me, the whole glow of this album hits me for six
everytime.
>Rakim is so huge a sound. Sanvean is sung so heartfeltly (I realise
that
>this is not a word before the flames start) that it could not be
bettered
>in the studio for her album. And Don't Fade Away shimmers long after
it
>finishes, as the crowd at the recording acknowledge in their wondrous
>applause. What more could be asked for?
>
>Andie
>
how about clean production, no audience noise and well the possibility
of a band not releasing a live effort just seems kinda indulgent to me
personally.  i can never understanding the fascination with
bootlegs--shitty sound usually, but not always and there's always some
idiot WHAAAA and WHOOOing in the background.  yuck, but it is a
personal yuck.  not even close to be the top three of 4ad releases.
and if we didn't differ what fun would this listy be.  euthelene, who's
still picking up the soggy mess that was once my storage room...


Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 23:35:28 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Re: Toward the Within & CD/vinyl


>I Can see now, American dreaming, Cantara, etc... these are gems in the
>musical history of DCD.

Don't forget _Gloridean_, which is only on the Video... that's a pity IMO.

Tot' not thislisty:
>I'm destroying my 4AD CD
>collection too!!  CDs are just another bullshit American audio format created
>by record companies to ensure decent first-quarter earnings.
I heard that the plastic on the Cd is destroying with air and time, so Cds
would have only 10-12 years life!    Less that old vinyl !!!

"The Vinyl Record Analog System offers the best possible sound reproduction
on a convenient twelve-inch disk. The fairly large (but flat) size provides
quite a large place for artwork and information unlike it's digital
counterpart, the compact disk. It's remarkable performance is the unique
combination of analog storage and stylus optics. For best results, you
should apply the same care in storing and handling the Record as you would
with conventional CDs"
                        Quote from Air Miami _Me Me Me_ double 12''

                           ___
Laurent Lapierre          |-,-|          In the theater tonight:
lapierre@micronet.fr      | - |                    _Funny Bones_

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 00:30:01 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: Lovelife sleeve design


>>various images, including cover of Lovelife
>
>Is v23 going 'back to the basis'? I hope this isn't the actual sleeve,
anyone could have made this.
>If the packaging tells you what's inside, well - in this case - it couldn't
de much...
>
>But see for yourself.
>
>Didn't want to download 3MB of Quicktime data, is the video any good?
>
>
>
>
>Emiel Efdee

The cover SUCKS! He=B4s right my sister better at taking group photos...=
 Let=B4s
cross fingers and PREY for another cover.

Being Optimistic,
Pepe


Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 19:15:31 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Circling Girl


Nope.  It's on one of the 12" vinyls, though.

Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 06:57:03 -0800
From: David Stack (dstack@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Going crazy...must sells CDs


Here is some CDs that you all might be interested in:
Available on a first come, first serve basis.

CD Singles
==========
Adorable - I'll be your saint....................................$10
Adorable - Sunshine Smile........................................$10
Adorable - Favorite Fallen Idol..................................$10
Belly - Feed The Tree (4 Track import, BAD 3001 CD)...............$6
Belly - Slowdust EP (4 Track Import, BAD 2009)....................$6
Blue Boy - Dirty Mags (Sarah 99 CD)...............................$6
Breeders - Cannonball (4 Tracks, US 3 B-sides)....................$3
Breeders - Divine Hammer (4 Tracks, US)...........................$3
Breeders - Saints (3 Track Import, demo of Cannonball,1more demo..$8
Chapterhouse - Mesmerise.........................................$15
Chapterhouse - Pearl.............................................$15
Chapterhouse - We are the Beautiful (4 track import).............$10
Chatperhouse - She's a Vision....................................$15
Cocteau Twins - Bluebeard (Import with 4 tracks/1 Acoustic).......$6
Cocteau Twins - Evangeline (Import, 3 tracks).....................$6
Cocteau Twins - Tiny Dynamine/Echoes in a Shallow Bay (8 trks)...$15
Dead Can Dance - 4AD Sampler of 13 tracks from their many CDs....$20
Ivy - Avenge (UK Ivy, Sarah)......................................$4
Ivy - I hate December (remix).....................................$6
Ivy - Lately......................................................$6
Kendra Smith - Vally of the Morning sun (2 Tracks, edit/album)....$2
Kristin Hersh - The Holy Single...................................$5
Lisa Germano - Puppet (1 Track promo, Radio edit).................$2
Medicine - Sounds of Medicine (Stripped & Reformed Sounds 6trks)..$7
Orb - Blue Room (Cardboard Sleave. 4 tracks, 65 mins)............$10
Pales Saints - Barging into the presence of god..................$15
Pales Saints - Half Life Remembered..............................$15
Ride - I Don't Know Where It Comes From (4 trk Import, 3 live)....$6
Slowdive - Morningrise EP........................................$20
Slowdive - Slowdive EP...........................................$20
Slowdive - Holding Our Breath (Out of print, rare).............. $30
Swallow - Hush EP................................................$15
Swervedriver - Last train to Satansville (4 Tracks, crescd174)...$10
Swervedriver - Son of Mustang Ford (4 Track, crescd079)..........$12


FULL LENGTH CDS
===============
Belly - Star................................................$6
Cause & Effect - Trip.......................................$6
Chameleons - What Does Anything Mean? Basically (Import)...$15
Chapterhouse - Blood Music (1 CD)...........................$5
Chapterhouse - Blood Music /w CD Single(2 CDs)..............$6
Cocteau Twins - The Pink Opaque (Out print Import).........$20
Cocteau Twins - Victorialand................................$7
In The Nursery - Counter Point (Compilation of out of print
                 songs w/unrealeased/remixed songs. Import.$20
Moonshake - Eva Luna........................................$7
Mistle Thrush - Angus Amarach...............................$6
Rollerskate Skinny - Shoulder Voices........................$6
Shed Seven - Change Giver (with Speak Easy).................$6
Slowdive - Souvlaki/ Blue Day EP (Ltd. Editon).............$45
Suddenly Tammy! - We Get there when we do...................$8
This Mortal Coil - It'll End In Tears.......................$8
Vol II of Music - Projekt records sampler..................$10

shipping is extra.

Dave

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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 02:47:42 -0400
From: K- (ash@dhp.com)
Subject: RHP's ocean beach slag


On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Andrew Massey wrote:

> Einexile spouted in his usual supercilious fashion:
>
> >I think the Lush singles are the worst 4AD releases since
> >Ocean Beach if not Toward the Within.
>
yes, 'single girl' is rather weak, and the b-sides pretty atrocious
as well, but what's the comparison with 'Ocean Beach'?
to each his own (or her, obviously...) but i thought the latter was
brill! perhaps not quite as good as the releases which preceded it,
but i figure it's damn near impossible to put out that kind of
quality with any sort of speed.
i'm biased. i think Red House Painters can do no wrong. however, i
find it almost laughable to think that someone would (sorry, Could)
compare something like 'Drop' to something like 'Tinkerbell'.
whatever, einey!
i just don't understand you,
                            K-

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 01:57:08 -0400
From: K- (ash@dhp.com)
Subject: Lush's Lovelife


well, i don't really feel like doing a full-blown review of the new
Lush album, 1) because i'm not really into the three page art
description thing and 2) i don't want to give away the surprise for
anyone.

i would just like to say, in a general way, everyone needs to take a
chill-pill. we've all been jumping all over the new album as shite
based solely on the recent single, MYSELF INCLUDED.

as it happens, 'single girl' is NOT indicative of the new lp (i just
managed to get a copy of the promo which is circulating.) i've
listened to it about five or six times and really dig it.
the fact is, it doesn't sound like old lush at all (i couldn't
believe that the voice on 'ladykillers' was miki the first time i
heard it), so people who go into 'lovelife' expecting 'gala' or
'spooky' or even 'split' are going to be disappointed. those who
manage to keep an open mind however will probably really like it.

i have to say, the first time through i was really underwhelmed. i
was crazy about 'split' and was expecting it to be pretty similar to
that, which, in retrospect, was unfair.

fortunately, 'single girl' was by far the poppiest thing on the lp.
i'm not going to draw comparisons to other bands, nor am i going to
label it as falling into a certain genre. i will say this...
lush have not sold out. that old thread was crap. true 'single girl'
blows (actually, i'm kinda getting used to it), every b-side (save
MAYBE 'sweetie') sounds really cheap. i'm happy to report, however,
that everyone can relax and save the speculation. just listen to it
when it comes out (beginning of march) and try to take it as its own
entity. the band's maturing, so as long as they don't go the same
route as Ride, i'm not complaining.

byefornow,
          K-

p.s. that Ride comment was somewhat of a bad joke. sorry. what a
fucking bummer...
p.p.s. anyone else think tinkerbell was one of the worst tracks lush
ever put out. twice?!


Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:41:33 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: lfo: advance & Lush, Stereolab

              Timothy Jacob" at Feb 6, 96 06:58:57 pm

Jeffrey Timothy Jacob  wrote:
>
> Would someone please post impressions/reviews of
> low frequency oscillation's advance?  This was recently
> released in the UK on the Warp label.  Recommendations?
> Comparisons?

Let's keep the technophobes happy first:

Lush are releasing "Ladykillers" on the 26th, B-sides are:

7" : I Wanna Be Your Girlfriend
     (a cover of the Rubinoos' "I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend", apparently).

I think that's the same day the new Cocteaus single hits the shops,
too.  And Stereolab are back on the 19th with a single, "Cybele's
Reverie", and an album, "Emperor Tomato Ketchup", on the 11th of
March.

LFO's "Advance" is the finest techno album I have heard since "Amber" -
there's very little of the experimentation with sound that Autechre or
Richard James do, I get the impression (as with Orbital) that anyone
could buy off-the-shelf synthesisers and studio gadgets and make the
same noises.  What matters is the composition and the production.  Some
of the album is drifting semi-ambient music (similar to parts of the
last Spiritualized album), some is pounding techno, but with a great
deal more variety and interest than most of that sort of thing.  I have
prised it out of my walkman occasionally in the last few days (see below
- the new Pavement single "Give it a Day" is also absolutely
first-class), but it's looking to be this year's "Iaora Tahiti" (another
superb techno album, and one which is often overlooked).

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 07/02/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/Andrew.Norman/
Pavement - Wowee Zowee


Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 10:25:52 -0800
From: Andy the Panda (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Stereolab British Tour Dates


er, i just typed these in to send to robin and thought i'd post them here
too. apologies to people on both indiepop and 4ad lists who'll see this
twice.

Feb 27 Reading Alley Cat (i'll be there)
Feb 28 Oxford Zodiac
Feb 29 Exeter Lemon Grove
Mar 02 Gloucester Guildhall
Mar 03 Bristol Trinity
Mar 04 Cardiff Gassy Jacks
Mar 05 Belfast Mandela Hall
Mar 10 Glasgow Garage
Mar 12 Manchester MDH
Mar 13 Bradford University
Mar 14 London Kentish Town Forum (i'll be there too!)

tortoise are supporting.

i could make the gloucester gig too if i went home that weekend. and
bristol's not a million miles from gloucester. and cardiff's not a million
miles from bristol either...

--
andyx (a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 06:29:21 -0500
From: GREGG AGINS (clockone@PIPELINE.COM)
Subject: Re: 1995 POLL: ALL READ THIS, PLEASE


unsuscribe

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 06:48:43 EST
From: Ralf Henneking (100563.2165@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: FS: 4ad + Creation, Sarah 7" collection and lots more


Hi,
Sorry for posting this to the list but I think some of you might be interested
in the stuff I'm trying to auction off.  It includes some 4ad items, my Creation
7" collection, Sarah singles, lots of related material by the Jesus and Mary
Chain, The Pastels, The Shop Assistants, Pop Will Eat Itself etc. etc. plus not
quite as thislisty stuff by the Sisters, Mission, Redskins, Three Johns.........
If you're interested in the complete list, send private (NOT to this list)
e-mail to:

100563.2165@ compuserve.com

Thanks,

Ralf


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:52:26 -0500
From: Don Francisco (dcisco@SSNET.COM)
Subject: Re: Kendra Smith


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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 07:54:40 -0600
From: Chad Burkey (burkey@CSTAR.AC.COM)
Subject: New Tortoise


The new Tortoise album _Millions Now Living Will Never Die_ is out and it is
quite good.  I really cannot write a review to save my life so I won't even
try.  For those who have never heard Tortoise I would describe their sound
as a cross between Rachel's (sans the chamber music) and Stereolab.  There
are no vocals.  Definitely music to be listened to in a dark room late at night.


Chad

"Like a sad hallucination"

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 07:29:06 EST
From: "Scott Davies (295-7039)" (sdavies@VNET.IBM.COM)
Subject: cult of ray


picked up frank black's latest and after 3 listening i say, thumbs down.
don't know what he is doing..... i don't get it - gone are the quirky
lyrics, the 2 minute paeans to the dross of american culture - this
seems to be his tribute to trex/transvestite bowie guitar licks... and
seems to me that, with the exception of a few songs, there was no thought
put into the lyrics at all - i'll be the first to admit i rarely catch what
he is crooning about on the first (or second or third or ever) listening,
but even when you couldn't get it you knew he was singing about something!

i'm left thinking it's a bad joke on us - those who slavishly buy frank's
output - the title - the cheesey guitar in the left channel (and the credits
stating that mr. black's guitar is heard on the right... barely, i might
add).... the "punk rock" song that sounds about as "punk" as 90 percent
of AOR - the lyric 'melting rock into metal again?' .... don't do it for
me, frankie.

by the way, the homage to pixies lyrics to 'kicked in the taco' someone
posted was the joke of some netter - the real taco is of a different
flavor

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:26:33 -0500
From: A guy named Chris (mm211595@OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Stereolab British Tour Dates


        I must make the gratuitous request for US tour dates, if any.  I
was majorly pissed when the came thru last and played at a 21+ place in
CHicago.  I am still only 18, so they better not pull that again :)  If
no specific dates, any ideas on cities?  I am at college in Ohio, so
anything within 3 hours of Athens, Ohio would be nice.  I haven't a car,
but I can beg for a ride...  Anyway, thanks in advance.

                                       Much Love,
                                                Chris.

        "If there's been a way to build it,
        There'll be a way to destroy it,
        Things are not all that out of control" -Stereolab "Crest"


Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:30:23 -0800
From: Andy the Panda (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Che Records / urusei yatsura


> Re: Che Records

er, the one i couldn't remember the other day is called 'joy! a che
compilation', it's from about a year before '...duh...'

> Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
> Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:26:51 -0800

> Urusei Yatsura? Geez, first Matthew Sweet gets the tattoo, and then
> this...

matthew sweet tattoo? over my head i'm afraid.

> What's this "Urusei Yatsura" all about anyway?

but i do know urusei yatsura. scottish band. the fourth issue of their
fanzine 'kitten frenzy' got a real slagging in the music papers last week.
four real singles i think, two on 'che' (er, and 'plastic ashtray'), two on
'love train' ('siamese'/'low-fi scary balloons' and 'kernel') and a ep that
they did themselves i think (at least he offered me something like this when
i ordered the last couple of fanzines about a year ago). named after the
japanese cartoon series about Lum, a pointy horned, tiger print bikini
wearing alien, er, babe (got the first of the films and the first of the tv
series tapes on video at home - weird stuff, must buy more), title means,
roughly, 'those obnoxious aliens'. the band are very much a pop sonic youth /
mary chain.

('siamese' namechecks 'yummy fur', another scottish band, also named after a
comic book, this time an american underground title, kinda like the fall only
teenaged, shouty pop punk (two(?) eps - 'kodak nancy europe' and something
that mentions both yuri gagarin and walt disney in the title and thus a
political record) must buy more of this too, you probably wouldn't like them.
scotland seems to be the place to be from, again)

pink floyd are short.
--
andyx (a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)
surprised that anyone bothered to read this far!

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:10:37 +0000
From: Richard Clemens (Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Che Records


iple recipients of list 4AD-L <4AD-L@AMERICAN.EDU>

> >Can someone post a list of recent Che' UK releases. Is there a sampler
> >available ?
>
> There's a UK sampler from last year called 'Does The Word Duh Mean Anything To
> You' featuring two tracks apiece from Dart, 18th Dye, Magic Hour, Urusei
> Yatsura, The bardots, Slipstream, Bardo pond, Kirk Lake, and the god-like Disc

> Inferno.
>

Today I remembered to bring in my copy of "64 slices of american
cheese" Che' newsletter no. 10 which contains a list of mail order
stuff far far too long for me to type out. (I am at work and they seem
to think they pay me to do some?).  It includes mostly Che' stuff,
plus various other things of, I assume, a related nature.

I definitely recommend the BEAR stuff,  others include 18th Dye, the
Backwater 7" is top and Bardo Pond are much better than their name if
you like noise. The Duh record is much better than many samplers
around IMHO.

Che' e-mail is given as che@cheltd.demon.co.uk

Their address is PO Box 653, London E18 2NX, UK tel: 0181 530 8381 &

Apparently their stuff is distributed in France (Le Biscuit Club),
Spain (The Green UFO's) and Canada (Derivative Records) addresses
given in the catalogue.

Hope this is of use

Richard

PS. For those of you who have seen "vic and bob's shooting stars" . I
went with friends to see Frank Black at Manchester Academy last week,
and Frank Black *is* George Daws. (sp?)

Richard Clemens, Centre Officer
Department of Construction & Surveying
University College Salford, Salford M6 6PU, UK

"       "  Anon

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 08:39:47 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Questions:Vinyl/Acetate,Projekt,GLJ,Stina


Acetate is used for generating first proofs, before the album goes
to vinyl.


Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 10:53:16 -0500
From: Joseph Burns (jaburns@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU)
Subject: Re: Going crazy...must sells CDs


hey I'll take that swervedriver 'son of mustang ford'!
let me know the address n such

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 08:30:06 -0600
From: Holly Emmer (hemmer@RRGROUP.COM)
Subject: Heavenly Bodies...


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Does anyone know the names,
release dates and labels of
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I have one from Cest La Mort,
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if there were more.

Thank you.
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 11:34:29 -0800
From: cz (cz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: the infamous "unsuscribe"

              Wed, 7 Feb 1996 06:29:21 -0500

        recently, several ppl have said:
> unsuscribe

        Why is it that the same people who send unsubscribe messages *to the
list* can't spell 'unsubscribe'?

-cz

4ad-l" to .


Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 10:05:29 -0500
From: "Scorpio M." (99barwik@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Disco Inferno / Nick Cave / etc


On Sat, 3 Feb 1996, Derek Innocent wrote:

> The new Nick Cave album Murder Ballads has been universally praised. It's not 
s
> good as everyone makes out. The subject matter becomes a wee bit tedious after
a
> while, and fifteen minutes of the violence-fest that is O'Malley's bar is more
> than enough for anyone to take. There are some great tracks on it though, just
> don't expect consistency.

Perhaps it is the fact that he uses my name in the first tracks title and
subject, but Nick and the Seeds newest cd left chills all over. And
honestly I never get tired of the chosen "subject" matter...it thrills me.
So I had no qualms about the genre of tunes that he put out on this cd.
He varies them masterfully and he has some very unexpected guest artists
for you to swoon over....Polly Jean and that LOcomtive Aussie, Kylie, who
actually sounds rather interesting.  Just try it before you get dissuaded
by the subject matter for every song...some are comical, some creepy as
hell, and some are the best to drive long distances alone at night with....

                                                ---joy

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:45:52 -0600
From: Rich Nelson (nelson-r@UIUC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bowery Electric, YES YES YES


At 12:20 PM 2/7/96 -0800, you wrote:
>In which Jens reviews
>
>---> BOWERY ELECTRIC  s/t album  (Kranky)
>

I have an address for Kranky Records (P. O. Box 578743, Chicago, 60657), but
do not have a phone number and do not know how much this CD costs.  Could
someone clue me in on the cost of the CD (plus shipping) or supply the phone
number of Kranky?  Thanks much.


Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 14:20:09 EST
From: "Matthew A. Neimark" (mattn@MIT.EDU)
Subject: New Rocketship


Hey Everybody!

What do you guys think of the new Rocketship CD from Slumberland
a certain smile, a certain sadness.

Personally I didn't think it was as good as the EP Hey Hey Girl.
But it was pretty good.  Someone told me that Rocketship is breaking
up...so this could be the last we hear from them.


Matt
-----------
Matt Neimark                      (617)225-7450
143 Albany St.
Cambridge, Ma 02139

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 11:05:23 -0800
From: David Stack (dstack@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Going crazy...must sells CDs

              from "Joseph Burns" at Feb 7, 96 10:53:16 am

>
> hey I'll take that swervedriver 'son of mustang ford'!
> let me know the address n such
>
ohh.... Some one just beat you to it.   I do have the Last train to
Satansville CD left though.

Dave
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:11:33 -0500
From: Andrew Chapin (chapina@ALLEG.EDU)
Subject: Solid State


I saw a brief article in an older spin (95?) magazine with info on Kelly Deal's 
side project" solid state.
The "Quotes"are refferring to what the article said.  I also read about Kim Deal
s band , the amps in a
penthouse magazine, yes I read them as well as look at them, unfortunately, I do
't own it, but I might
be able to barrow it if anyone is interested in seeing it, Please respond to me 
ith the subject titled
"Those crazy deal sisters"  Of course I could be well fucked in the head and not
relize that one or
both have already been posted.  Please, someone, let me know.

"Nobody Wants You, Once You're Gone" -don't call home

andrew

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:09:27 -0800
From: Bjork Gudmundsdottir (thuyenqu@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Stereolab British Tour Dates


will they be having any dates in the states eventually?

pc


Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 22:09:59 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: The Other Site 2.0


After a period of beta-testing 'The Other Site' version 2.0 is now online. This 
eans that you can only view this site with Netscape 2.0 (because it's the best b
owser for good web page design).

'The Other Site' now works with frames and the index is one small image-map (cli
k) instead of all those seperate tiny images in the previous version.

If you don't use Netscape these pages suck*

The URL is still the same:



If you find any 'bugs' please let me know...





Emiel Efdee

the Netherlands, February 7, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl


* does the fucking us telecom bill allow me to use this word?


Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:56:06 -0700
From: Brett Boyd (BOYDB@VAX4.CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: My Bloody Valentine, the movie


Martin!
        Why didn't you include that disclaimer bit Ihad with "Read this stuff
in quotes with a cheesy German or authentic Swiss accent--if yer cool?"
        I can't recall the renderings of any glutus maximi.  Wait...
Yes there was this blond...  It's all fragmentary, BUT check it out (all puns
intended)!\

Smart Asses Unite!


Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:17:40 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Che Records / urusei yatsura


> matthew sweet tattoo? over my head i'm afraid.

First it was a comic series.  Matthew Sweet's got a Lum tattoo on his
shoulder.

Mike

Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:50:26 -0700
From: Brett Boyd (BOYDB@VAX4.CSMC.EDU)
Subject: Re: lfo: advance & Lush, Stereolab


I was wondering if you have heard of the astralwerks (I can't remember how to
spell the label) band Mu-ziq--those first two letters should be just one Greek
letter with the same phoentic sound.
        They have a release out called "In Pine Effect,"
" and its one of the
better ambient/techno strolls I've heard.  They're ability to stroll through
the various genres of house and techno and ambient make the album very
listenable--actually engaging.
        They have sampled a Kristin Hersh song of her "Hips and Makers" album
--my thislisty contribution.  The other reason I am replying is to note a
similar experience (that you wrote about) with this particular album.
        Check it out and get back to me!

Brett


Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:37:44 -0800
From: aka Wavequeen (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Pre-order Confirm...


You wrote:
>
>Hi.. hope you have received my fax yesterday, with VISA informations.
>
>You can add the double amber vinyl _Stereolab_ if it's available,
>not the CD nor the domestic lp please.
>
>Oh... add also Morrissey & Marr - The Severed Alliance, if it's only
$4.
>
>So, my total amount should be quite 38 - 40$ (without postage), for:
>
>Stereolab _Switched On vol II_ Double amber vinyl
>Volume 15 _CD+CD-ROM_
>Morrissey & Marr - The Severed Alliance
>
>Thanks.
>
>                      ___
>Laurent Lapierre     |-,-| Tonight a "new" CD (thanks for present,
Fred)
>lapierre@micronet.fr | - |        My Life Story _...Mornington
Crescent_
>
if you don't mind i just take the money and run and not send the CDs


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