Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 02:40:38 +0100
einexile the meek
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 17:06:03 -0600
Is there any chance "shaving the pavement will be in texas?"
Keep me posted *PLEASE*!!!
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 16:31:37 +1030
Can someone post a list of recent Che' UK releases. Is there a sampler
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 02:40:36 +0100
[email protected] writes:
> Yes, I too would like to know how to get ahold of rareTwo! (glares at Lars)
Ahm. Uhm. Life kinda happened. But I wouldn't be too surprised if
the tape chains started up again. Not for quite a while, though.
"Yes. The journey through the human heart
would have to wait until some other time."
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:22:06 -0800
Description courtesy of EAR/Rational music:
*Third Eye Foundation-Semtex LP LSDO2 $13.50
Strictly limited to 1000 vinyl-only release is the musical brainchild
of Matt Elliot, one of the guys behind the Movietone/Flying Saucer
Aftack guitar onslaught. Recorded in the shroomy fields of Bristol over
the last year, it's a futuristic sprawl of urban rhythm/white noise,
like if MBV did their thing over jungle beats (which I heard they might
be doing anyway--??) with an extremely dark edge. More new stuff later
this year. Buy or cry. (Linda's Strange Vacation)
Sounds like really interesting shit and I demand that someone review it for me
so I can criticise their subjectivity and spelling.
Jens Alfke ______ OpenDoc Partmaker _______ [email protected]
Cracking toast, Gromit!
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 02:40:39 +0100
"Jose A. Garcia Triana Camil"
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 22:43:31 +0100
>It does look as if the Debout/Couche order is inverted according to the
>innergroove stamping, yet at the same time, the label iconography and the
>matrix numbers do suggest that side A (the drowning man) is indeed "Scary
>Verlaine" and the flipside (the walking timebomb) is "The Sun Always Changes
>My Mind." Gotta love those Emigre font sets....
For me, A side = Debout => the walking bomb and
B side = Couche => the drowning man ....
I think the best way is to try to rely the content of sides (one side vocal,
one side instrumental), with the booklet...
Anyway, I asked Alex, from _Le Tatou Colerique_ and expect an answer next week!
Laurent Lapierre |-,-| Tonight a "new" CD (thanks for present, Fred)
[email protected] | - | My Life Story _...Mornington Crescent_
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 07:14:03 +0100
>Jeff, last year 4AD released five compilations (with those strange sleeves):
Fruit and vegetables are as good as any for V/A albums, I think.
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 17:35:24 +1030
Heard a great single by a Birmingham Allabama band Verbena, out on a UK
label Sentanta (sp?). This would have to be the best noise/groove/pop
song that's been released in the last couple of years. Well worth
tracking down if you can find it.
Anybody have any bio/disc info on them ?
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 09:50:13 +0100
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 17:59:05 -0800
I know Elysium were playing last saturday. I couldn't make it because of prior
plans (and boy did I feel sorry when those fell apart).
But anyway, anyone care to comment or review the show?
And Brant, any up and coming releases from Elysium soon? Are they working on
any new material?
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 02:40:35 +0100
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 00:06:05 -0600
>I've played the "World according to Kevin Bacon" before. It's Pretty
>cool. I think you're on the right
>track with the pixies and the breeders and whatnot. Give her a few more
>years and band changes
>and kim deal could be a good origin to start from or to get to
Just to start a round I saw a strange punk called Apocalipse Hobbokken,
oppening for supernova, this would be completely nonthislisty except that
one of the band members, I think the lead singer but it could have been the
guitarist clamed to be related to Kim Deal so they covered Do you love me
now. Does anyone know about this alleged conection and does it count for
the universe acording to Kim Deal game.
On monday when the sun is hot
I wonder to my self a lot
"Is it true, or is it not,
That what is which, and which is what?"
=-mike (or not as the case may be)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:52:26 -0500
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 18:59:49 -0600
Suit yourself... I'm looking forward to double CD releases. I just
wish they'd tack on an extra 'live' track like REM does. From what I
can see, they are giving us 2 non-album tracks per single. Cool
beans! I also hope the second CD's 'tishbite' is a remix of some
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 20:07:43 -0500
rummaging around Addicted To Noise's web site I found the following -
Quicktime excerpt from Lush's Ladykillers video
various images, including cover of Lovelife
I don't think ATN necessarily wanted anyone to see these yet.
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 07:37:03 -0600
> > Remember, voting will end on Valentine's Day.
> Uhm. When's that, then?
February 14. It's another bullshit American holiday created by greeting
card companies to ensure decent first-quarter earnings.
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:41:04 EST
>Can someone post a list of recent Che' UK releases. Is there a sampler
There's a UK sampler from last year called 'Does The Word Duh Mean Anything To
You' featuring two tracks apiece from Dart, 18th Dye, Magic Hour, Urusei
Yatsura, The bardots, Slipstream, Bardo pond, Kirk Lake, and the god-like Disco
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:48:31 -0500
>>Suit yourself... I'm looking forward to double CD releases. I just
wish they'd tack on an extra 'live' track like REM does. From what I
can see, they are giving us 2 non-album tracks per single. Cool
beans! I also hope the second CD's 'tishbite' is a remix of some
The Disc 2 version of "Tishbite" is no different. It's the same sort
of thing as Lush did with "Single Girl". HOWEVER, the B-sides are
utterly sublime. They have once again managed to create B-sides that
kick the ass of most bands' album tracks...
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 09:55:09 -0500
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:57:53 -0500
i must've missed something
what compilation is in the works here? coz my band would definitely love
to be a part of it........someone please pass the info
On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Robert Pietrusko wrote:
> hello, i am interested in being part of your compilation! if you would
> send me the details i would be very gratful! thank you.
> BTW- you mentioned the MBV list i was curious about the subscribing
> address for that... could you help me?
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 12:32:31 -0800
> Che Records
> [email protected]
> Tue, 6 Feb 1996 16:31:37 +1030
> Can someone post a list of recent Che' UK releases.
nope, sorry. i can tell you what i've bought recently though. those 2
slipstream singles, magic hour stuff, 2 uresei yatsura singles, bear, bardot
pond... they have an email address which can probably help you... [surf surf
surf] actually, this is dave's address, he's just had some auction thing over
on the indiepop list, if he doesn't know then he'll probably know a man who
> Is there a sampler available ?
yep. two that i know of. can't remember the name of the first one but the
more recent one is called 'does the word 'duh' mean anything to you?'. both
have about a dozen tracks on them and retail for the price of a cd single and
come in plastic bag packaging rather than crystal boxes.
andyx ([email protected])
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:12:18 -0600
Andrew Massey rote:
>Rakim is so huge a sound...
>Sanvean is sung so heartfeltly (I realise that
>this is not a word before the flames start) that it could not be bettered
>in the studio for her album...=20
>And Don't Fade Away shimmers long after it
>finishes, as the crowd at the recording acknowledge in their wondrous
95% Correct! (The other missing 5% goes Cantara, which I think is better
here than the studio version... Lisa=B4s vocals are out of this world).
Toward the within is, IMO, one of the best albums DCD have ever made. Apart
for two tracks that I don=B4t care at all for (I=B4m stretched at your grave=
Piece for solo flute) the album is a complete triumph. Don=B4t fade away is
the best track here, Perry simply delivers an excellent performance that
made shed some tears the first time I heard it. I hope that this track is
the promise of what will come in the rumoured solo album by him. Elsewhere,
the tracks reflect a more =B4diverse=B4 sound, one that I like better...=
I Can see now, American dreaming, Cantara, etc... these are gems in the
musical history of DCD.
It=B4s just my opinion...
Pepe (who=B4s having a terrible hangover)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 11:25:04 -0600
almost bought rachel's handwriting lp yesterday. i seem to remember many
favorable reviews, but could a couple of people give me (via private mail
-- this is old territory) a rundown on the general sound of the album.
i've heard one song of theirs (thanks, .mark.), and it's good, but what
about the album?
>> Also, can someone give a (objective) review on Insides=B4 'Euphoria' &
>> 'Clearskin' =B4cause I may buy them.
>"Euphoria" is total greatness (if you skip the tracks they forgot to
>write tunes for). "Clear Skin" is a snore.
shame on you, lars!
i'm of sort of the weird school of thought here, but i think that euphoria
is kind of spotty (weak lyric writing, kirsty's voice can be grating at
times), but clear skin is absolutely brilliant. if you like 38 minute long
ambient tunes ala seefeel's quique (which i originally hated, but have
since come to love), you'll like clearskin. din't mean to slag euphoria.
they're both good.
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:26:51 -0800
> You' featuring two tracks apiece from Dart, 18th Dye, Magic Hour, Urusei
> Yatsura, The bardots, Slipstream, Bardo pond, Kirk Lake, and the god-like Disc
Urusei Yatsura? Geez, first Matthew Sweet gets the tattoo, and then this...
What's this "Urusei Yatsura" all about anyway?
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 11:32:05 -0500
For thos of you still having a hard time finding this litle gem and unable to
arrange anything with Farrago directly, then turn your attention to Desirable
Discs II in Dearborn, MI. They had 2 (as of yesterday) still on hand and
priced at $8.99 each.
I don't know what they would charge for shipping, but I'm sure once you
contact them they could tell you.
contact them at:
13939 Michigan Ave.
Dearborn, MI 48126
sorry, no fax or e-mail info available.
p.s. they also had multiple copies of All Virgo's Are Mad for $14.99 if
someone is having a hard time finding one (yeah, right), an
ESP-Beetles/Jennifer Wolski split 7", some DCD boot's on CD and a single copy
of HNIA's "King of Sweet" for those still hunting that one.
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 17:21:05 -0500
On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, lorelei tremolor wrote:
> i must've missed something
> what compilation is in the works here? coz my band would definitely love
> to be a part of it........someone please pass the info
well, i posted this before, and i
hope this isnt annoying anyone but it will be the last
post to the list...
joanna and i are compiling music
from musicians that you will find
milling around on various lists. mbv-l and
4ad-l to be specific. they send us tapes and we
compile and make copies for all those that are interested.
anyone can get a copy for free. (of course you have to
pay for a tape and postage) and we still need
some more people to contribute. so if you are interested
please email me for specific details, i have a list
printed up to tell you exactly what to do. if you
have any questions mail me privately and well sort
stuff out... cool? very cool.
hope that helps.
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 08:46:15 -0500
>>Heard a great single by a Birmingham Allabama band Verbena, out on a UK
label Sentanta (sp?). This would have to be the best noise/groove/pop song
that's been released in the last couple of years. Well worth tracking down if
you can find it. Anybody have any bio/disc info on them ?<<
Verbena are indeed from Birmingham, Alabama and, yes, are very very good.
Currently they have two singles out on U.S. indie Merge Records (Superchunk's
label) as well as the Setanta thing. There was talk of reissuing the singles
on a CD EP for Merge, but this is still just talk, as far as I know.
RIBBON No. 3, also based in Birmingham (and very very good) will have a bit
bio on the band including extended information on their releases. This is due
out in late February.
For additional information, look up our temporary site on the world wide web.
Set your browser to...
This should be up for another day or so before we pull it to make
improvements, etc . and move to a new address.
Hope this answered some of your questions.
RIBBON | 3000-A COOK STREET | BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA 35209 | U.S.A.
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 13:28:35 -0500
> It's another bullshit American holiday created by greeting
> card companies to ensure decent first-quarter earnings.
Yeah, let's boycott Valentine's Day! Those fucking greeting card companies
are just out to sock it to us poor Americans. Dammit, why does Hallmark
have to be so heartless. Haven't they done enough damage? If it wasn't for
these damn heartless corporations, we'd all be able to enjoy fluffy bunny love
but no; we have to be opressed by these pits of despair and hopelessness.
I just keep dreaming that one day all these cruel bottom-line oriented blood-
suckers die and leave the planet in peace. Phooey! Who needs technological
advancement? I'm going home right now to destory my computer and throw my
electric razor out the window. ..and why I'm at it; I'm destroying my 4AD CD
collection too!! CDs are just another bullshit American audio format created
by record companies to ensure decent first-quarter earnings.
marvyn "capitalism stinks" Hortman
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:53:22 -0800
>February 14. It's another bullshit American holiday created by greeting
>card companies to ensure decent first-quarter earnings.
Hallmark and American Greetings are notorious fronts for the Mob. They in
fact named the holiday in honor of the famous St. Valentine's Day
Massacre of the 1920s in which Al Capone's men rubbed out several members
of a competing mob. A fact not understood by most who associate this
holiday only with flowers, hearts and candy...
Jens Alfke __________________
He wants a shoehorn, the kind with teeth
'Cause he knows there's no such thing.
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:55:34 -0700
This flick was a psychoanalytic joy to watch. I mean if you want to research
how movie makers of the early 80's attempted to play upon the insecurities
and identity structures of adolescent males and females (esp. Canadian), watch
Before I go and parle all of my "insights" of this movie, let me just
sum up this veritable smorgasboard with a memorable scene.
Keep in mind two disclaimers: I'm not a psychoanalyst by training and I am
recollecting what I saw through my twelve year old eyes.
Also this scene may just divulge how effective their efforts were since
you may have noted my pubescent age of 12.
So, one of climactic scenes (pun will soon be intended) occurs in "mine
shaft." These kids, who have been innocently seeking the teenage staples of
sex, drugs and rock-n-roll, have found themselves cornered in the "mine shaft"
at the peak of their incomplete satiation of those elements previously mentioned
bove and their terror of being killed. (Say this in a German accent or Swiss
if you wanna be accurate or cool) "Of course does not this scene beckon us to
examine the allegory of the super ego in competition with the id. The parental
installation of particular elements (primarily the sexual taboos) into the
hedonistically trained adolescents (by the media) of the early eighties, creates
deadly conflict for the psychological and organic health of the subject
experienceing this very conflict."
"The parental (and cultural) values hidden in deep in the pre-pubescent mind,
i.e. ages 2-10 years, are suddenly activated by the increased activity of the
burgeoning sexuality of the teenager. The values they are combatting are as
illusive yet as pernicious to their intended goals of pleasure (particularly
sexual) as the vicious psychopath that is slaughtering them. Thus we saw
the meta-refferential structure of the adolescents terror to the mechanisms of
the movie My Bloody Valentine (that should read "terror mirrored by the mech-
Whoa! My account is bleeping me! Does it not have a sense of irony? believing
my analysis serious?
Fear not I'll continue later.
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:22:36 -0600
At 03:22 PM 2/5/96 -0800, Jens Alfke wrote:
>Description courtesy of EAR/Rational music:
>*Third Eye Foundation-Semtex LP LSDO2 $13.50
>Strictly limited to 1000 vinyl-only release is the musical brainchild
>of Matt Elliot, one of the guys behind the Movietone/Flying Saucer
>Aftack guitar onslaught. Recorded in the shroomy fields of Bristol over
>the last year, it's a futuristic sprawl of urban rhythm/white noise,
>like if MBV did their thing over jungle beats (which I heard they might
>be doing anyway--??) with an extremely dark edge. More new stuff later
>this year. Buy or cry. (Linda's Strange Vacation)
>Sounds like really interesting shit and I demand that someone review it for me
>so I can criticise their subjectivity and spelling.
Umm, Jens, you mispelled "criticize"
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 23:52:06 +0100
>Your message dated Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:43:54 +0100 with subject "Pre-order
>Confirm..." has been successfully distributed to the 4AD-L list (397
Hum... confuse... I apologize for the last post...
Not to justify myself, but my post was to Intergalactic_Garage, it's my
nickname in Eudora : it points to the 4AD-L... sorry !
Laurent Lapierre |-,-| In the theater tonight:
la[email protected] | - | _Funny Bones_
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 22:00:52 +0200
>Fruit and vegetables are as good as any for V/A albums, I think.
Yeah, but if anyone gave you these fruits and vegetables, would you eat them?
the Netherlands, February 6, 1996
... [email protected]
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:27:20 -0500
Some possibly old news: in the December issue of Pulse magazine, Mouse
on Mars said they were planning to collaborate with Stereolab, Pram,
and possibly Brian Eno.
Now, the best records of 95 that I bothered to write blurbs about:
Minxus - Pabulum
Lead vocal, guitar, bass, drums. They don't fool around with effects
or samples or even harmonies, but their arrangements make inventive
use of all the instruments - it's no wonder that the writing credits
go to "Minxus".
The lyrics sung by the bassist are confrontational, but you won't mind
because her belting is seductive, if bombastic. On the other hand, if
a gravel driveway could sing, it would probably sound like the
guitarist. Honestly, it wouldn't take too long to get tired of either
one, but the sequencing wisely has no more than three by the same
singer in a row (with a few instrumentals thrown in as well), so their
unique singing styles are a net plus.
By the way, don't judge them by the track "Steal, Steal, Steal" on
Pabulum are significantly better, IMHO. In fact, I think that
compilation is a poor introduction to Too Pure, overall.
Mouse on Mars - Iaora Tahiti
Imagine if _Exit Planet Dust_ were had been created by actual
songwriters inspired by Krautrock instead of remixers inspired by
disco. (BTW, "remixer" is a slam on the Chemical Brothers, but
"disco" is not.) As good as _Iaora Tahiti_ is, I would recommend
starting with _Vulvaland_, which guides you into the MoM universe more
Here's some stuff stolen from Pulse:
The title _Vulvaland_ was inspired by _Ausenberger
Puppentiste_, a kids' TV marionette-show that St. Werner has
loved since he was a boy. "There's this little island called
Lummerland where two characters live. We adapted it to
Vulvaland, which is our idea of a utopia that's here and now,
not in the future where you can't reach it. Everyone has
their own kind of Vulvaland where they like to go. With the
new album, it's like we've left Vulvaland and are now ready
for adventures. `Iaora Tahiti' is like a pirate cry - `We
(For those who already have IT, if you've been wondering about the
first track, the Japanese spoken word stuff is some kind of "fairy
tale about stereophonic experiences", how small things can seem big or
The Wolfgang Press - Funky Little Demons
They claim in interviews that they're just trying to mimic important
poets when they write their lyrics, but I enjoy approaching this as a
concept album, anyway :-) ...Maybe something about rejecting
mainstream religion but being born-again as something new.
Throwing Muses - University
IMO, second only to Real Ramona. While some of the songs may not be
as clever or "experimental" or even as catchy as in the past, this
album's strength is its consistency of mood and groove.
Chris Isaak - Forever Blue
Created in the wake of a messy break-up, _Forever Blue_ is basically a
genteel _Pretty Hate Machine_. What's surprising is how well the
narrow thematic range is compensated for by the variation in the
songwriting (from pleading to rockin', from moaning to meditation) and
the shades of blue expressed (from wistfulness to cynicism, from
desperation to resignation). Indulging my hobby of crossbreeding
pigeonholes, _Forever Blue_ could be the result of Elvis hanging out
with Stina Nordenstam (I'm talking about instrumentation and stuff,
don't expect Isaak to whisper in your ear), though Elvis couldn't hit
these high notes even if he were still breathing.
Scheer - Schism EP
It may be the heaviest thing 4AD's ever released, but it's not like
they've gone and signed Slayer. Although Scheer gets a headbanging
groove going sometimes, I think it's most accurate to call _Schism_
"pop with a metallic sheen". Picture a sporty Japanese hatchback
painted metallic green with big orange flames (if you think that
mental image is ugly, you should see the (brilliant) artwork on this
In fact, Lush covering Ned's Atomic Dustbin wouldn't be too far from
Scheer, minus the wanky guitar. But the wanky guitar is what makes
_Schism_ stand out, and it's there to serve the songs, not vice versa
- that's why I use the label "pop" instead of "metal". I've only
heard one other metallic pop band use this many flourishes without
going psychedelic, and they never broke out of Boston (Orangutang), so
Scheer certainly doesn't have an identity crisis (not to mention that
Orangutang was more ironic and their lead "singer" Christian Dyas
would never have been likened to Harriet Wheeler-from-the-Sundays-
Ned's Atomic Dustbin - Brainbloodvolume
BBV displays as much sonic invention as, say, _The Downward Spiral_ or
the Underground Lovers' _Dream it Down_, but stretches the borders of
mainstream rock instead of just crossing them. With lyrics neither
profound nor adolescent, the high points are sublime and the filler is
better than _Are You Normal?_.
Bonus random opinion - as much as I enjoy my copy of TWP's _Bird Wood
Cage_ (which I found for $1.99 - beat that bargain :-P), it does sound
like a cross between Talking Heads' _Remain in Light_ and Byrne/Eno's
_My Life in the Bush of Ghosts_, and that's not much of a cross.
Richard Tauriello [email protected] "I'm an American, not American't"
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 22:08:14 +0100
I have the following item for sale:
Matt Johnsen "Burning Blue Soul"LP (CAD 113, 4AD 1981)
in original Psychedelic Eye Cover-Sleeve + Inner sleeve!!!
The record is near to mint, while the sleeve get`s a very good.
Offers please to my PRIVATE mail-address not the list!
If the offers are too low (my opinion).......I will not sell!
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 18:58:57 -0500
Would someone please post impressions/reviews of
low frequency oscillation's advance? This was recently
released in the UK on the Warp label. Recommendations?
T i m J a c o b
Department of Spanish