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Subject: The Pixies, Breeders, Muses, blah blah blah
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 22:55:28 -0600
From: Space Ghost Poncherello (jrcampbe@MAIL.PITTSTATE.EDU)
Subject: hey musicians...
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 00:51:39 -0500
From: "[spiral]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: CDs for sale
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 00:52:01 -0500
From: Glen Greenman (GGreenman@GNN.COM)
Subject: Tour news
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:50:36 +1030
From: Grant.Schwarz@DSTO.DEFENCE.GOV.AU
Subject: brother(or sister) can you spare a UNIX mailbox?
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 01:45:40 -0500
From: Brendon Macaraeg (bqm1808@IS.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: My Bloody Valentine, the movie
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 00:54:22 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Tour news
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 01:02:32 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Kendra Smith
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:38:00 GMT+0100
From: Bjarne Laugesen (Bjarne.Laugesen@86197365.DA.DIATEL.DK)
Subject: Re: Tour news
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 12:28:35 +0000
From: "Roger Brewster (Wedge)" (bu6010@WLV.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: my review of the new lush album
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:13:19 +0000
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Tour news
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 08:22:10 -0600
From: "Michael C. Lawyer" (lawmic@HOMER.ACS.BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: steve's cd sale....
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:21:19 -0600
From: "I love carrots.." (z919758@RICE.FARM.NIU.EDU)
Subject: Re: hello all
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:42:04 -0500
From: "Rodney......who should really be working now......."
Subject: Re: The Pixies, Breeders, Muses, blah blah blah
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:18:55 -0500
From: Andrew Chapin (chapina@ALLEG.EDU)
Subject: Re: Tour news
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:08:04 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: hey musicians...
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:08:25 -0800
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Kendra Smith
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:45:09 -0800
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: hey musicians...
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:37:32 -0500
From: "[spiral]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: Toward the Within
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:00:05 -0500
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 22:55:28 -0600
From: Space Ghost Poncherello (jrcampbe@MAIL.PITTSTATE.EDU)
Subject: The Pixies, Breeders, Muses, blah blah blah


Has anyone played the Kevin Bacon game?  Someone names an actor and using
movies, you can link actor to actor and get finally, all the time, to
Kevin Bacon (Cary Elwes was in "The Princess Bride" with Wallace Shawn
who contributed a voice to "Toy Story" along with Tom Hanks who was in
"Apollo 13" with Kevin Bacon).  I wonder (in reference to the recent 4AD
list discussion) if the Kevin Bacon game can be adapted to "The Pixies
Game" or "The Throwing Muses" game or something in that vein.  Maybe I'm
just bored.

Just an innocent question.

James Campbell
jrcampbe@mail.pittstate.edu
1902 S. Broadway #12, Pittsburg, KS 66762
(316) 235-1602 --> Jim's Moose Outlet Hotline
(316) 235-4801 --> SAC Office (Office Hours MWF 3-4pm)


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 00:51:39 -0500
From: "[spiral]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: hey musicians...


well, joanna and i are doing this
on the mbv list and i figured with
the amount of people on this list there
is bound to be someone interested. we are compiling
the music of the musicians on this list, and the mbv-l...
if you want details ill send them to you, just
email me. the more that contribute the merrier.
and those wantiing a copy can get one even though
you dont contribute... please write, itll be loads of
fun. :) bye. spiral

Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 00:52:01 -0500
From: Glen Greenman (GGreenman@GNN.COM)
Subject: CDs for sale


Pardon the commercial interruption, but I have a small selection of
CDs for sale. Some of the things I unloading (out of necessity,
Sinead O'Connor, PIL, Police, Ofra Haza, Sting, Sugarcubes, and
more. Included in the sale are US and import full-length and single
CDs; please email for more info or a complete list. Please email to
the following address:

02724.3265@compuserve.com

My address at gnn.com will soon be invalid. Thanks.

Glen

Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:50:36 +1030
From: Grant.Schwarz@DSTO.DEFENCE.GOV.AU
Subject: Tour news


>From www.addict.com/ATN/issues/1.01/Up_Front/Music_News_Of_The_World

4AD's Own Personal Lollapalooza

Everybody wants their own personal alternative to Lollapalooza. Now 4AD
Records is going to give William Morris and Perry Farrell (together or
separately) and the Warped Tour a run for their money. They'll mount
their version this spring, which they're calling the "Shaving The
Pavement" tour. And, quite naturally, the tour will feature three of
the label's best and brightest. Lush, with a new album, Lovelife due
out next month, headline, supported by Mojave 3 and scheer. The 25 city
tour begins April 11 in Seattle, Washington . In addition to the three
official acts, we're told that other 4AD artists will drop by for guest
spots. Artists like Tarnation, Liquorice, His Name Is Alive and Lisa
Germano. If you're real good (and in the right place at the right time)
you might also witness brief performances by the likes of the Deal
twins, and their bands, past and present. One source told us, "Maybe
Kim Deal will show up and sing Hank Williams' songs--that kind of
thing." Did we tell you about the free stuff? At every show during the
tour there will be give-always of cassette samplers and the like.


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 01:45:40 -0500
From: Brendon Macaraeg (bqm1808@IS.NYU.EDU)
Subject: brother(or sister) can you spare a UNIX mailbox?


Hi Folks:

I was planning on re-starting the Dreampop
mailing list (but with a wider definition
of "dreampop" other than shoegaze/miasma/whatever)
but the problem is that I need another UNIX mailbox.
I _could_possibly apply to NYU's Academic Computer
Facilities for another account, but trying to get
ACF to do anything is like getting your mom to give
you the keys to the brand new SAAB after you've
downed a six of Bud.

So I was wondering if some good soul
out there had a Unix mailbox sitting unused
that I could have access to (yes I would need
the login and password) to run the Dreampop list.
I'm using a Macintosh program called
ListSTAR for POP that basically uses a plain-old
UNIX POP account for processing a mailing list.
I've got an account, but ListSTAR requires that each
mailing list have it's own separate UNIX POP account.

Let me know ASAP! Thanks.

We now return you to your normally scheduled
music email content....

Cya,
-B

P.S. I'm looking forward to
the MBV demo-tape-whatever-you-want-to-call-it.
Sounds like a cool creative endeavor
and will maybe prompt me to get
off my ass and buy some equipment.
=====================================================
                                    Brendon Macaraeg
               http://www.itp.tsoa.nyu.edu/~brendonm
   "It's true: a glass of milk does help you sleep better."


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 00:54:22 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: My Bloody Valentine, the movie


> "My Bloody Valentine" isn't awful - it's a typical '81 slasher film (that was

Aw, it's great; I've seen it a number of times.  Just gotta sit down with
a big [root] beer (thomas kemper?) and wind yourself up to belly-laugh at
the cliches and squeal at the blood.  Fun to watch.

> or, worst of all,
> Curtains.

Anyone seen ... what was it... 'creepers'?  Killer tree roots...
My favorite is 'eyes of fire,' though it ain't all that goofy.

Say... don't know why I thought of it now, but...  did I tell you folks
about how I sang the Boo Radleys' "Barney and Me" at a Karaoke joint at
Metrotown (canada) on two separate occasions?  Probably?  Images of
blonde-haired girls with large chests playing ice hockey in swimsuits and
cut-offs...

Mike

Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 01:02:32 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Tour news


> out next month, headline, supported by Mojave 3 and scheer. The 25 city
> tour begins April 11 in Seattle, Washington . In addition to the three

DAMN IT!  Why can't it be just *one* month later when I'm 21... crap.
Anyone know the venue?

Mike


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:38:00 GMT+0100
From: Bjarne Laugesen (Bjarne.Laugesen@86197365.DA.DIATEL.DK)
Subject: Kendra Smith


I was quite surprised, when i saw Kendra Smith mentioned in this list. I'm a ext
eem Dream Syndicate fan, in which she played 1982 - 1983, and the last time i he
rd anything about her, was when she played in Opal. What has she been doing mean
hile and what solo records has she been doing.

Bjarne laugesen

Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 12:28:35 +0000
From: "Roger Brewster (Wedge)" (bu6010@WLV.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Tour news


On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Heffalump wrote:

> > out next month, headline, supported by Mojave 3 and scheer. The 25 city
> > tour begins April 11 in Seattle, Washington . In addition to the three
>
> DAMN IT!  Why can't it be just *one* month later when I'm 21... crap.
> Anyone know the venue?
>
> Mike

Hey Mike, looks like it's fake I.D time.....what a shitty law that you
have over there eh?

Roger

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:13:19 +0000
From: Chris Limb (c.limb@IOE.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: my review of the new lush album


RE lorelei tremolor's review

> surprised that it was lush, but
>liked the songs nonetheless.

I was surprised too, but how boring life would be without surprises!
Especially wonderful surprises like this one.  Without change, we would
have stagnation.  Lush have always been changing.  That's one of the
things I like about them.

>it's not the lush i fell
>in love with.  it's a whole new lush.

And what a great new Lush too!  But there are still definite traces of the
past there - in particular Last Night is very Split-esque, as is
Childcatcher (not surprising, as the song was debuted on the Split tour
back in '94).  Also the fade out to 'I've Been Here Before' reminds me of
Split moments...

>it's too bad that they're not still
>in scar mode.

See my first comment above

>slow song "papasan" is absolutely beautiful>

I totally agree.  It literally brought tears to my eyes.

>one thing that does bug me is the lyrics-- they used to be so poetic and
>now they're really not.

I like the new lyrics - the whole album has a very bitter and cynical
outlook.  And the change in production technique means that you can
hear the words very clearly.  But I think Lush's lyrics have always had
this edge to them as well as the poetic edge (re. 'Bitter', 'Hypocrite')

>"500" has some bad lyrics i think- from "shake baby
>shake...rake baby rake" to "they call you little mouse by name"

But it's a very good song, it has such a joyful feel about it, and there's
nothing wrong with the odd lighthearted lyric

>and all the horns they use...well, i don't mind them although i'm
>sure people will.

I was a little shocked when I first heard the horns, but after a minute or
two I got into the idea of them.

All in all, I find the album virtually flawless! :-)

>has anyone seen the single girl video yet?  i haven't...

Yes.  An amusing angle on Four Weddings and a Funeral...

Chris -]}:>


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 08:22:10 -0600
From: "Michael C. Lawyer" (lawmic@HOMER.ACS.BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Tour news


When is the shaving the pavement tour again? I'm sure it was already
posted, but I wasn't really paying attention (sorry) most important when
are the midwest dates, (tell me the'll play in Minneapolis at some time!)

mike


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:21:19 -0600
From: "I love carrots.." (z919758@RICE.FARM.NIU.EDU)
Subject: steve's cd sale....


I am sorry to everyone, but I was out of town all weekend, and retrieved
my mail this morning....thank you to everyone that replied, I am sending
out mail today, repling to all those letters.


thanks, steve
maddrose@niu.edu


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:42:04 -0500
From: "Rodney......who should really be working now......."
Subject: Re: hello all


In a message dated 96-02-02 20:20:34 EST, you write:

>trivia ? for the 4AD diehards, has any other band
>besides Slowdive -> Mojave 3 made the transition from Creation to 4AD or
>the other way around?

Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:18:55 -0500
From: Andrew Chapin (chapina@ALLEG.EDU)
Subject: Re: The Pixies, Breeders, Muses, blah blah blah


I've played the "World according to Kevin Bacon" before.  It's Pretty cool.  I t
ink you're on the right
track with the pixies and the breeders and whatnot.  Give her a few more years a
d band changes
and kim deal could be a good origin to start from  or to get to
andrew


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:08:04 -0600
From: "Jose A. Garcia Camil" (pepegtc@HALCON.LAGUNA.UAL.MX)
Subject: Re: Tour news


Are there any dates in Texas? It=B4s the closest state to where I live
(Mexico)... please let me now!!!

Ever Thankful,
Pepe


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:08:25 -0800
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: hey musicians...


hello, i am interested in being part of your compilation! if you would
send me the details i would be very gratful! thank you.
BTW- you mentioned the MBV list i was curious about the subscribing
address for that... could you help me?

                -robert.


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:45:09 -0800
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Kendra Smith


        Bjarne laugesen said:
>I was quite surprised, when i saw Kendra Smith mentioned in this list. I'm a
>>extreem Dream Syndicate fan, in which she played 1982 - 1983, and the last
>time >i heard anything about her, was when she played in Opal. What has she
>been >doing meanwhile and wha solo records has she been doing.

        Well, you shouldn't be too surprised since she's now signed to 4AD.
 Her post Opal solo work has been primarily Guild of Temporal Adventures
(can't remember the lable) and Five Ways of Dissappearing (on 4AD).  I like
the Guild recording which might be hard to find but it's well worth the
effort.

-cz

Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:37:32 -0500
From: "[spiral]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: hey musicians...


On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Ken McGrath wrote:
> Also, I've forwarded your note to my girlfriend, blah@blah.com.  She
> subscribes to several mailing lists that I don't (so we get more coverage)
> and wouldn't have received this.

yikes! i hope we dont get 3000 people wanting a tape.
ouch. well so far the majority of people only want a
tape, and not to many contributers... come on people!
im going to be on it for goodness sake! now you know
there is no reason to be shy! :)

                ---> [spiral]
                99lear@lab.cc.wmich.edu


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:00:05 -0500
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Toward the Within


Einexile spouted in his usual supercilious fashion:

>I think the Lush singles are the worst 4AD releases since
>Ocean Beach if not Toward the Within.

I'm sick of his unjustified (that I have seen) slagging of the latter
beautiful album whenever he can seem to fit a dig at it in. I'm glad to say
I know that I don't see eye-to-eye with such a poor judge of people, music,
importance of role playing games, and especially self-worth; but I wonder
what other people's views on this album are. Am I alone in thinking that it
is one of the top two or three albums which 4AD have released? I wouldn't
think so - but who knows. Apart from the messy Cantara, which is it's only
downpoint for me, the whole glow of this album hits me for six everytime.
Rakim is so huge a sound. Sanvean is sung so heartfeltly (I realise that
this is not a word before the flames start) that it could not be bettered
in the studio for her album. And Don't Fade Away shimmers long after it
finishes, as the crowd at the recording acknowledge in their wondrous
applause. What more could be asked for?

Andie


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