Subject: Re: Petition to Destroy Lush
Subject: Re: just a couple of thoughts...
Subject: Re: Slowdive & Mojave 3 Mailing List
Subject: Re: one more Shelley
Subject: Re: LUSH
Subject: Shelleyan Orphan EPs
Subject: what's wrong with Spooky/Tempean/Lush VW ad
Subject: Re: Folk Implosion
Subject: News
Subject: Re: RHP - Ocean Beach
Subject: my latest cdnow shipment
Subject: CD Europe
Subject: CD Europe e-mail and/or telephone?
Subject: Re: teensy amt. of 4AD content, lotsa name stuff
Subject: Re: what's wrong with Spooky/Tempean/Lush VW ad
Subject: Forwarded Interview with Lush
Subject: another season clearance update
Subject: leonard
Subject: CD-selling-stuff
Subject: Fan residue
Subject: A Brief Commercial Interruption
Subject: Pixies-Breeders-Muses lineage/Creation <-> 4AD/what's still wrong
Subject: Throwing Muses/HNIA - Chicago
Subject: Folk Implosion/Sebadoh
Subject: Re: Suddenly, Tammy!
Subject: Re: News (fwd)
Subject: Re: Loving the Lovering
Subject: Disco Inferno / Nick Cave / etc
Subject: Re: Credit redemption!
Subject: A 4AD compilation question
Subject: season clearance END - includes 'all new' flexi section
Subject: Re: Folk Implosion
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:50:56 -0500
---from e (quoting 'H'y):
> > It goes back to that old question of what you listies
> > are seeking from 4ad nowadays. I guess most are harking
> > back to about 87-88 when the CTs were on the label...
> > [snip]
> > Times are changing.
>
> This point is made fairly often...but I've noticed that
> most people on here who miss the Good Old Days...also
> listen to a good deal of music that is not too far off
> from what 4AD is putting out these days--but they see
> 4AD's offerings as lesser examples for the genres
> involved.
This is perfectly correct, at least for me. It seems that there are always
plenty of good bands out there that would make great 4AD bands (and could use
the v23 treatment, as well), but they end up on other labels, while 4AD has
been signing fairly mediocre bands. However, I guess I should admit that I
have not yet heard *anything* by *any* of the new acts that put out their 4AD
debuts this year (Kendra Smith, Liquorice, Lisa Gerrard, Tarnation, Air
Miami, Scheer, the Amps, Mojave 3). Sorry, I've been pretty much broke all
year, and when I do have money to spend on CDs, there's always a non-4AD
release that's more enticing. So maybe I should just bow out of this one
completely. Never mind.
> Personally I don't mind what 4AD is up to and am happy
> that they have been bold enough to kick so many awful
> bands off their label in a short amount of time.
Jeez, I'm off the list for 5� months, and what have I missed? So who exactly
IS still on 4AD, and who has departed?
I was thinking last night while listening to Hugo Largo's _Mettle_ for
perhaps the eighty millionth time that it's really a pity that they were
never on 4AD. They would have been perfect for the label, especially when
_Drum_ first came out. They would have been one of the very first US bands
to sign to the label, and they would have had an audience waiting for them
that (probably) would've been blown away by them. And, the most important
part, they might have put out more than two albums before just giving up from
the sheer frustration of not getting anywhere on a major label. Of course,
this is all just speculation, but damn, I wish they were still together.
Oh, and...
---from Micah Newman:
> All of [Lush's output] is great (still withholding
> judgment on the new stuff, which I haven't heard). This
> current anti-Lush stream is pure herd mentality.
I take great offense at this, as should anyone else who has posted about
this. I do nothing as a result of herd mentality. I love Lush's older
stuff, having bought the _Scar_ EP shortly after its release. I eventually
bought _Gala_, and still listen to it regularly. However, I think _Spooky_
is crap, mostly due to the shitty, tinny production, but frankly the songs
aren't that great, either; I knew it was going to be downhill city when they
made the mistake of printing the hilariously - nay, embarrassingly - bad
lyrics to "Nothing Natural" inside the single. I've only heard _Split_ a few
times, and it's not so bad, but it's certainly not great, either. Or perhaps
I should put it this way: there are things I would rather spend @$15 on.
Please note that the above is my opinion only, and I do not wish to be flamed
for not liking Lush anymore.
---Jeremy
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:36:20 -0600
> RHP, being from the bay area,
> somehow summon up those images, simultaneously relating them to every
> subsequent event up until now, in the most evocative way imaginable.
> When Mark sings "I only got memories I'm still not clear of" in "Red
> Carpet", that right there is my LIFE. When I hear "Moments", the affinity
> is even greater.
I think Mark is originally from Ohio, and the band actually got started in
Atlanta, Georgia. Admittedly there are tons of San Francisco references in
RHP songs, and I do find myself doing that "looking for Penny Lane and
Strawberry Fields" thing whenever I find myself in the Bay Area (and when
I'm not going ballistic at the Sanrio store, but that's a whole 'nother ball
o' wax).
Cheers,
hk
"But it comes with a free piece of corn!"
--
hk kahng | [email protected] & [email protected]
| http://www.neosoft.com/~hk/home.htm
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 03:44:28 +0100
On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, [email protected] wrote:
> hey im a recently unsubscribed lister so any responses should be
> directed to my private adress and not sent to the list. im looking for the
> mojave/slowdive list adress...the blur list adress....the british-pop adress
> and the site for 4AD digest....thanks in advance...
The Slowdive / Mojave 3 mailing list address is:
[email protected] (Subject: 'subscribe normal' or
'subscribe digest' to subscribe)
//Erik ([email protected])
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:02:26 -0500
I got three Shelleys;
"Century Flower"
"Humroot"
"Waking Up"
I would love it if someone who has "Helliborne" would tape it for me. Does
that wrap up all their "major" releases? I've been looking for "Helliborne"
for a long time and am inclined to give up on it along with David Sylvian's
Weatherbox. :(
Getting information quickly from the Internet doesn't help much if the item
was out of print before you even knew it existed. But the good thing is now
I have a much better chance of finding limited edition stuff thanks to the cool
folks on this list who seem to have their fingers on the pulse so to speak.
here's to my second favorite mailing list!
marvynHortman (about to be frozen in and feeling sappy)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:37:33 -0500
I've only read a fraction of most of the Lush-bashing threads, so
pardon me if I'm not fully informed of the issues here.
I bought the two "Single Girl" CDs yesterday. Although the songs
CLEARLY indicate changes in Lush's sound and songwriting, I can't
say that I'm prepared to hate them. Has anyone yet heard the LP?
And if so, what is your assessment of it? "Single Girl" is only
a single, and I LIKE this song. The others are merely b-sides.
I don't think there are many bands who intend for any of their
b-sides to be smashing good tunes (although bands like Adorable
and Cocteau Twins -- to name a couple -- have managed well). That's
why they were relegated to the status of "b-side" after all, right?
I Granted, Lush's b-sides to-date have mostly been really good songs,
IMO. But for now, I'm going to sit tight and wait to hear "Lovelife"
before I make any harsh judgements.
Just my chunk of change...
Michael
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:33:17 -0800
Besides the three albums we all know and love
(ie. Helleborine, Century Flower and Humroot)
with their notable differences between the US and UK
versions that I've posted many times before,
they had the following three EPs on Rough Trade:
RTT 170 Cavalry Of Cloud / Tangled Perpetual /
One Hundred Hands (for strings)
RTT 207 Anatomy Of Love / Harmony Drone / Theme
RTT 217 Shatter / Tar Baby (live) / Amanite Muscaria /
Timeblind
These are all 12" EPs. I know the last one is also available
as a 7" and on CD, but I'm not sure about the others.
Scattered songs I know of:
the aforementioned "Ice" on a Columbia promo CD
"Suffer Dog" on Artists For Animals - The Liberator
(this is a song that only Jemaur Tayle sings on)
some cover song on a tribute album-- I really don't remember
what this was (maybe Velvet Underground or Lou Reed???)
There's also supposedly a promo release of "Burst", but I've
never seen it.
As for videos, all I know about are Shatter and Burst (although
I've never seen the latter-- can anyone tape it for me?)
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:17:16 -0500
>- Its sound is relentlessly full and there is little in the way of
> subtlety or crispness to break it up, so that one gets a sensation of
> drowning. Tiny Smiles is unbearably cloying and many of the album's
It's way too trebly too.
> other songs (including some of Lush's best work) never gives you a
> moment to breathe, so you have this happening on a small scale as well.
Plus some of them need some editing.
> This is all made worse by the uniformity of the vocals, which always
> have that Eye in the Sky sound to them.
Haha, yes. I never thought anyone could compare Lush to the Alan Parsons
Project, but I defer to e.
> For Love, which is one of Lush's uglier and more predictable songs.
I used to be in a band with someone who thought Lush were the greatest thing
since reservoir-tipped condoms (not her actual words), wrote lame Lush-alike
songs and insisted on attempting to cover For Love, even though she had the
chords all wrong. I soon learned to hate that song with its solo - lots of
the same notes played in succession in a supposedly quirky rhythm, something
that became a formula in all of our own songs. I'm not been too keen on Lush
since then.
>Where did you hear that
>it's called "Tempean"?
Printed backwards on the inside of the CD booklet.
>if lush agreed to do it, it's not bad
>because volkswagon is a pretty cool car company :)
if you ignore the fact that they MADE CARS FOR HITLER...it's VolkswagEn, btw
>The first album I ever bought was Simple Mind's _Once Upon A Time_. Which
>is still great (second only to _Live In The City Of Lights_
Light. Paris is the City of *Light*, not the City of LightS. That would be
Vegas. Probably.
>....must...go...read...german...books...
muss...immer...mehr...lesen...
Larry, getting mad at his modem
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:21:51 -0500
though the song I heard (natural one) seems TOTALLY stolen from Peter
Gabriel I still seem to tap my foot and groove to it every time I hear
it...
I'd be interested to know if all their stuff is any good...
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:51:06 -0800
HI everyone,
here's some news from robin. I'll post it on the web site soon.
jack b huynh
[email protected]
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 02 Feb 96 07:03:35 EST
Hi Jack,
Forgive the berevity of this note but heres what's going on.
CD Single 1 Tishbite
Primitive Heart
Flock of Soul
CD Single 2 (limited) Tishbite
Round
An Elan
12 inch Vinyl Tishbite
Primitive Heart
An Elan
Circling Girl
This is released March 11 in the UK but not in the US {order on import now!! :)
}
Milk and Kisses is released April 9
March 11 Hotel Babylon UK Live TV
March 12 Mark Radcliffe Show 10-12pm UK Live Radio Show
March 15 TFI Friday UK Live TV
Forthcoming events
Contribution to Rough Trade's 20th Anniversary Celebrations (A small liv
show Maybe)
US Radio sessions (more details later)
UK, European and US Shows (small)........(more details later)
Milk and Kisses Tracklist:
violaine
serpentskirt
tishbite
half-gifts
calfskin smack
rilkean heart
ups
eperdu
treasure hiding
seekers who are lovers
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:18:28 -0500
I agree with the pro 'Ocean Beach' string...
I think its really a maturation for RHP... they manage to staadle a fine
line btx their earlier more self-indulgent style and a more cohesive
song/structure kinda thing. Songs like 'san germino' and 'drop' really
hold me.
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 10:29:29 -0800
I *love* this service. Most of the stuff I'm buying now I can't
find in any store.
Suddenly, Tammy! - [self-titled]: now playing, "on my walkman
this morning". I already had "(We Get There When We Do.)", and quite
liked it, so decided to scope out the minor-label debut. They remind me a
*lot* of Throwing Muses. It's in the vocals, the lyrics, the idiosyncratic
time-signature changes; even the bass player sounds a lot like Leslie
Langston. This one is a bit more avant-garde and quirky than its
major-label follow-up, which is to be expected, I suppose. "Plant Me" and
"Lamp" are great.
Frank Black - "The Cult of Ray": pretty middling. Advance word on
this was more or less accurate. I don't think it's *bad*, just extremely
complacent, which is exactly what I think boondogs Belly. Unfortunately,
I think complacency is a major component of the Frank Black persona.
The upside is, "Teenager" will sound even better.
His Name Is Alive - "Mouth By Mouth": a most pleasant surprise.
The first 6 songs or so blew me away. I don't think they lose anything at
all in their use of the 'full band' sound. 2/3 of the way through, it
does start to drag a bit, though.
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:28:56 -0600
telnet cdeurope.com
or
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:00:51 -0500
Hi again
Sorry to keep using the List as a Rolodex(tm), but in transition between home
and school (not to mention e-mail accounts!) I lost some important
information.
Does someone have the phone number for CD Europe? Better yet, does anyone
have an e-mail address for a direct contact? I don't have telnet access, so
that information does me less than no good. And that's all I can find. :( A
copy of CINdYTALK's recently - reissued (?) "Camouflage Heart" hangs in the
balance. HELP!
To return a favor to my good buddies on the List:
someone (you, Heffalump?) asked for the address for Charnel Music.
(courtesy of a very spiffy Gravitar disc which everyone should own... no
excuses now!)
Here ya go:
CHARNEL MUSIC
P.O. BOX 170277
SAN FRANCISCO CA
94117-0277
...anyone have the phone # for Charnel Music?
Just kidding. :-b
Thanks to those who helped me with the Slumberland #, btw. Now it's just a
matter of good old fashioned telephone tag.
I hate phones.
Now you can go back to whatever it is that y'all do on weekends that leaves
the List as deserted as the Kelso Run...
GuerillaG
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:13:05 -0500
don't forget the "white" bands - lion , Great - , - snake, -cross, etc.
andrew
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:14:49 -0800
> > so that one gets a sensation of
> > drowning. Tiny Smiles is unbearably cloying and many of the album's
>
> It's way too trebly too.
Briefly entering into the Lush pro/con fray, I'll come to the
defense of Spooky significantly before anything after that
album. What a few people have said they find annoying about it
is exactly the reason I love it. Treble, drowning in guitars,
cloying, Guthrie production... for me anyway, this is what
makes it tower over the likes of Split, which is still a good
album, but not great. Even the best song on Split, "Lit Up",
I don't really find nearly as memorable as "Tiny Smiles"
or "Fantasy". Then if you go back even farther, you come
to what I would call the masterpieces: "De-luxe" and "Thoughtforms v.2"
In fact the whole Mad Love EP is right up there among the best
things 4AD has ever put out. So I guess my point is that
you can count me as another Spooky-phile. One of these days
maybe I'll even hear the new EP. My question though is this:
who's the dolt who designed the packaging? Hello?! It
strikes me as the WORST thing v23 has done in a very long time,
maybe ever.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 14:27:22 -0500
The article below was printed in "The Newspaper" (Issue 15, Volume 6,
January 26, 1996) - a Loughborough student compiled free newspaper. I
thought it may be of interest to some of you.
It was written by a gut who calls himself Sydeburns, and can be contacted
at
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 10:15:27 +1100
will this ever end.....
bids are in $US & don't include postage(which will cost $3.50 for 4 7"s)
equals = more than one bid at that price.
I have 4 copies of EAWS - one step forward & 4 of Goes so slow + one red
vinyl, so I can take a few equal bids on these.
i HAVE A FEW COPIES OF THE pALESAINTS lTD eD ALSO
any records that have disappeared from the list have disappeared ('pop') -
sorry.
the prayers is a brilliant single! (YOU MUST ALL HAVE IT ALREADY!!!)
$2.50 rob A HOUSE CALL ME BLUE
$3.50 rob A HOUSE KICK ME AGAIN JESUS
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$5.00 laura BODINES GOD BLESS/PARADISE
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FIVE YEAR PLAN HIT THE BOTTLE
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IT'S IMMATERIAL SPACE
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THAT PETROL EMOTION GENIUS MOVE
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WALTONES THE DEEPEST
WALTONES SPELL IT OUT
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DIED PRETTY TIME/ MARCH PAST
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$6.00 equals EVEN AS WE SPEAK GOES SO SLOW
$6.00 equals EVEN AS WE SPEAK ONE STEP FORWARD EP
FEAR OF FALLING CROSSROADS OF REALITY
FEAR OF FALLING FOR THE TOURIST
FEAR OF FALLING HAND IN HAND
FEAR OF FALLING YOUR PLACE
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PRAY TV SPENT
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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 03:18:13 -0500
>i spent my
>sabatacle (sp) listening to mojave....what a nice record....sounds a lot like
>early leonard cohen....only with rachel's backing vocals the musicality isn't
>dominated by the folk lyrics as was often the case, and i assume the intention
>of leonard cohen.
Ha, I was wondering if anyone was going to make the comparison. I also
noticed the distinct influence of ol' Laughing Len on this record,
especially on "Candle Song 3" and "Where Is The Love". Rachel's backing
vocals are also not quite as cloying as those of the backing singer(s) LC
used to use on songs like "Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye".
There's an interview with Mojave in the latest AP, with a rather startling
photo of the band. Neil looks much scruffier than ever before and Rachel's
new haircut appears to be self-inflicted. Anyway, it's mostly about
Slowdive, as it turns out, and the catastrophe that was their relationship
with SBK and, towards the end, Creation as well. Worth reading.
Larry
--------------------------------
Yeah, Cohen and Nick Drake are big influences on "Ask Me Tomorrow,"
as well as a few other oldies.
For those interested I have a short interview with Rachel in my Dreampop
zine.
Still working in the road trip size with frames for Netscape 2.0 and sound
files.
as well as some new LP reviews; they'll be up by Tues.
Rachel's interview can be found at:
Someone mentioned awhile back that 4AD is running into financial difficutly.
My interview seems to back this up, e.g. corp. sponsorship.
The Lush/Scheer(SP?)/Mojave tour this spring is being
sponsored by Miller Beer and Rolling Stone magazine. I have mixed
feelings about it, but if it means the difference between getting to hear
Mojave live and not, I guess I'll have to accept it. Mind you , I don't like
it, but....
Other stuff: it seems a NYC-based indie called Instinct Records is
licensing a lot of FAX stuff for U.S. release. I pixed up the FAX I compilation
for $16 (2 CDs...not bad at all). Has anyone else taken a listen to the
"Heat" soundtrack? Lisa Gerrard is on it as well as a great deal of work
by Kronos Quartet; also some great work by Brian Eno and others....I've heard
it and I think I am going to pick it up. I liked the movie, so that helps....
Also, can someone give me a good LP of Auchtere's (sp?) to start with?
There's a new shop called Other Music downtown NYC that carries
a lot of this good stuff.
Cya,
-B
=====================================================
Brendon Macaraeg
http://www.itp.tsoa.nyu.edu/~brendonm
"It's true: a glass of milk does help you sleep better."
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 01:02:47 -0800
Well, I got quite a few responses last time ... but only one with $$
offers, so here are my prices. This is the only time I'll post this info to
this list. (I'll also post on alt.music.alternative and rec.music.
marketplace.cd.) If you have any questions or if you want to buy
something, email me *privately*. Shipping is included in the price(s).
Here's the stuff:
Belly -
feed the tree ep (UK) $8
feed the tree ep (US) [spine-scratched promo] $6
gepetto remix 1 ep [2018] $8
slow dust ep $10
star (US pre-release promo) $7
[all for $34, including shipping]
Pale Saints -
fine friend ep $8
slow buildings (stamped promo) $7
[both for $13, including shipping]
Slowdive -
morningrise ep (new) $20
Spiritualized -
lazer guided melodies $7
pure phase $9
fucked up inside $12
feel so sad ep $10
anyway that you want me ep (slight damage; plays fine) $9
[all for $42, including shipping]
angel'in heavy syrup - II (Japan) $14
the clean - vehicle $10
heisei tanuki gassen ponpoko - [drama CD] (Japan) $25
morrissey - interesting drug ep (UK) $12
omoide hatoba - black hawaii (Japan) $15
ruins - graviyaunosch $10
this mortal coil - 5 selected originals (promo only, 5 tracks: tim buckley,
rain parade, big star, roy harper, and chris bell) $makeanoffer
Thanks,
Mike
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 08:26:56 -0600
Joseph Burns made the polite inquiry:
> as for al this 'decline of 4ad', if the label and its bands distress so
> many of you, why do you bother? this isn't an attack (as it will probably
> be taken as), but i cant understand why somebody would want an endless
> stream of messages in their box about artists they dislike seemingly so
> vehemently.
I'm only distressed that I now have to look harder for good music. It's
still out there. And a great deal of more post-CT 4ad product remains
that Perry hasn't plodded across...
Why stay? 4AD, at their peak, defined an aesthetic that it has spent
years now trying to disavow. When a print review cites a band as being
"4ADish", or as listmembers would say, "thislisty", I think we can consent
that they're not describing an affinity to Scheer, Tarnation, RHP, Spirea
X, or Pixies.
The embryonic 4AD list discussed primarily music from the label, but
that's an absurd limit when the best "thislisty" music hails from other
provences. The more prolific listers are valuable fount of music
knowledge, evaluated from a shared aesthetic perspective. I trust their
opinions far more than those expressed on usenet or the web or in the
press. Einexile, for instance, was instrumental in overcoming my
aversion to the techno I was familiar with to go exploring in the
"Ambient Techno" section of the shops. Autechre's "Amber" puts me into a
"4AD" frame of mind better than anything I've heard on the label for years...
4AD's music used to touch upon something far more ... awe inspiring ...
than nonclassical music has ever aspired to. At moments, it was a
secular hymn... Take Cocteau Twin's "Five Ten Fiftyfold" or DCD's "Ocean"...
Now, they've touched the ground, and their best music is that of
consolation (Mojave 3 and Heidy Berry), rather than invocation.
D. Stephen Roy //\\ Die in your thoughts every morning and
[email protected] \\// you will no longer fear death - Hakakure
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 09:44:44 +0100
Two super bargains:
I'm in a position to offer the new CD/CDROM/BOOK from the VOLUME series
for $18.99.
Here's the publisher's description:
"Includes Excl trax and remixes from Cocteau Twins, New Order, Baby Bird,
Wannadies, Ultramarine, Mick Harvey and 14 More, Plus a bonus interactive
CD rom that will blow your mind!"
Item #2: 1996 4AD Calendars, still in original cartons. $18.99 (ltd supply)
(Will be shipped in their cartons unless you want to pay for custom packing.)
I'm only accepting orders at this price thru 10am EDT this Monday. All
orders must be pre-paid (that's by either your account here or charge card)
and will be shipped this coming WEDNESDAY.
Order by email, phone or fax. (Info s.b. in the footer.) Check our WWW page
for detailed how to order info.
Postage is $4 per shipment to a US address, for any quantity of disks, so
check our WWW page for other goodies.
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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 09:58:41 -0500
with Spooky
>Anyway, don't forget Josephine Wiggs, who used to be the bass player for
>"The Perfect Disaster" before she was in the Breeders.
I think the family tree would have to be redrawn to include TPD and
Octopussy and that guy from Slint who played drums on Pod...
>has any other band
>besides Slowdive -> Mojave 3 made the transition from Creation to 4AD or
>the other way around?
Heidi Berry moved from Creation to 4AD
>Briefly entering into the Lush pro/con fray, I'll come to the
>defense of Spooky significantly before anything after that
>album. What a few people have said they find annoying about it
>is exactly the reason I love it. Treble, drowning in guitars,
>cloying, Guthrie production...
But on Spooky even the bass sounds trebly, which has got to be one of the
most annoying sounds ever. Plus Guthrie made them use those electro drums or
whatever they're called. And the practice of sticking tons of chorus on the
guitars and vocals on every song is lazy and uninspired, to say the least.
But their move into riff-rock circa Hypocrite is still the dumbest thing
I've heard them do.
Larry
"Country music at this time of day / can make the future seem so far away"
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 12:24:26 EST
Does anyone know if Throwing Muses will be playing any shows in Chicago
soon? I know that they're performing in San Francisco on 18 February.
And what about HNIA ... any more warm-up shows in Chicago that will seat
more than 100 people with a little advance warning of the show date? If
anyone on the list attends tonight's Chicago show at Lunar Cabaret, can
you post a short review?
Thanks,
Tom
[email protected]
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:04:23 -0500
this is my understanding of folk implosion, I have a feeling I'm
wrong so please corrrect me.
I WAS TOLD:
Folk Implosion was something that Lou Barlow and some dude
named Eric ? did on friday and saturday nights when they were
in high school.
Then came Lou Barlow in Dinasour Jr.
Sebadoh was a side project that then became more full time
as lou and Dino. Jr. separated.
Now before you condone me for not having a clue, Fill me in on what's
correct
By the way, Sebadoh is one of my favorite groups, the only thing is
that The only two things I have of them are The Freed Weed and 4 song
cd
Any info or help is much welcomed.
andrew
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 11:02:16 -0800
>Suddenly, Tammy! - [self-titled]: now playing, "on my walkman
>this morning". I already had "(We Get There When We Do.)", and quite
>liked it, so decided to scope out the minor-label debut. They remind me a
>*lot* of Throwing Muses.
Oh goodie -- I was afraid I was the only one who heard the Muses
similarities. The early-Kate Bush influence is so obvious as to not need
mentioning (he said, mentioning it) but the Muses flavor is a bit more
subtle.
>It's in the vocals, the lyrics, the idiosyncratic time-signature changes
Maybe not quite so much the lyrics, which tend to be happier and not so
much "I'm about to lose my mind" as most of Kristen's output.
This was really mostly just an excuse to plug Suddenly, Tammy! who are
just too fabulous. Don't let the pretty-stupid name fool you. I just
recently noticed that their singer sang backup on the Lilys'
also-too-fabulous "In the Presence Of Nothing" and one of the other band
members helped engineer it.
__________
Jens Alfke __________________ _________________________
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________________________________________________________________
This segment's question is whether the 7th angle of the diatonic
flange grids should be amended! Blue or amber?
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:20:32 -0500
---from Jack B Huynh (apparently channeling Robin Guthrie):
> > ...heres what's going on.
> >
> >
> > CD Single 1
[single plus two b-sides]
> > CD Single 2 (limited)
[single plus two *more* b-sides]
> > 12 inch Vinyl
[with "Circling Girl", very clever...]
In other words, just like Catherine Wheel and the House of Love before them.
You know, I *really* hate Fontana. I was just sure that Cocteau Twins would
be considered above all this nonsense...or, heaven forfend, that they might
actually use their pull to keep this shit from happening. I guess the one
saving grace here is that there's nothing on the vinyl you can't get on CD
(unless you miss out on the wonderfully limited second single).
---Jeremy
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 14:41:07 -0600
>> > and David Lovering now plays drums for Cracker.
>> > Am I pretty close?
>>
>> Mostly, actually I believe David Lovering played drums for
>> Camper Von Beetoven whith David Lowery of Cracker.
>
>I'm 99% positive that this is not correct, since I'd never heard it mentioned
>before.
>
I believe I spooted it on the Camper website, I don't have my Camper album
handy, but I checked on both Cracker albums and he's not listed anywhere,
but they usually have two or three diffrent drummers so it's entirely
possible that he did play with them on the 120 minnutes set.
>When Cracker (and god, I can't stand them)
personally I think they're great, not very thislisty but quite enjoyable
nonetheless
were on "120 Minutes" to promote
>their last album, David Lovering was playing drums behind them. I'd read
>somewhere that he was going to be their permanent drummer, but who knows?
> I'm still getting over the fact that he was playing with Nitzer Ebb...
well not everybody's perfect
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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:44:25 EST
I know there are others out there who mourn the passing of the great Disco
Inferno. Some news in today's Melody Maker. The album recorded for One Little
Indian, 'Technicolour', was shelved when the group split. Whether or not it will
be released is under discussion at the moment (all very political music biz
stuff). Ian Crause, however, has a new group called Transformer (crap name).
They have contributed one track to the forthcoming Wire tribute LP (also
containing a track by Lush fact fans)
The new Nick Cave album Murder Ballads has been universally praised. It's not as
good as everyone makes out. The subject matter becomes a wee bit tedious after a
while, and fifteen minutes of the violence-fest that is O'Malley's bar is more
than enough for anyone to take. There are some great tracks on it though, just
don't expect consistency.
The new LFO album advance is pretty damn amazing, and almost worth the wait of
nearly five years. It doesn't really show an enormous amount of progression from
the first - the same only better I think.
Finally, I got Volume 15 to day which includes tracks by Scheer and the C******
T**** amongst others. Not listened to it yet.
By the way, I get heartily sick of people who still cling to the myth that 4AD
is some ethereal, wispy label, and that everything they put out has to conform
to these stereotypes. There was just a brief period in the mid-eighties when the
likes of DCD and the Cocteau Twins dominated. Prior to that there was the
Birthday Party, and that tradition was continued with the likes of the Pixies
etc. It's always been a healthliy eclectic label - after all, the best selling
4AD single ever was the groundbreaking Pump Up The Volume. Isn't it about time
you bloody goths out there woke up to the fact that the eighties finished six
years ago - time to move on.
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 15:10:06 -0800
Allan,
Hi,
i just wanted to find out what the status of the pre-orders i did a while
ago were? I ordered the new frank black and a morrissey single (see email
attached below.
i would also like to order the Volume CD/CD-ROM.
you should have all the necessary info there, but if not just let me know.
talk to ya,
peter repetti
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 07:50:05 -0500
>Morrissey - Sunny CD5
>Frank Black - Man in Black CD5
Peter - I got you orders and will check your account. Assuming everything
is in order, please bare in mind that these are pre-orders and these pieces
won't be in stock for a little while.
What do you think of the Beatles Anthology, both TV and CD?
-=Allan
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HOME PAGE: //www.intrepid.net/igg/igg.htmlAt 09:44 AM 2/3/96 +0100, you wrote:
>Two super bargains:
>
>I'm in a position to offer the new CD/CDROM/BOOK from the VOLUME series
>for $18.99.
>
>Here's the publisher's description:
>
>"Includes Excl trax and remixes from Cocteau Twins, New Order, Baby Bird,
>Wannadies, Ultramarine, Mick Harvey and 14 More, Plus a bonus interactive
>CD rom that will blow your mind!"
>
>Item #2: 1996 4AD Calendars, still in original cartons. $18.99 (ltd supply)
>(Will be shipped in their cartons unless you want to pay for custom packing.)
>
>I'm only accepting orders at this price thru 10am EDT this Monday. All
>orders must be pre-paid (that's by either your account here or charge card)
>and will be shipped this coming WEDNESDAY.
>
>Order by email, phone or fax. (Info s.b. in the footer.) Check our WWW page
>for detailed how to order info.
>
>Postage is $4 per shipment to a US address, for any quantity of disks, so
>check our WWW page for other goodies.
>
>Thanks!
>
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>
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 21:09:34 -0500
Awhile ago, a couple people mentioned a 4AD US compilation called "Yeah,
PRO-S-7630. Can anyone give me more information, like a tracklisting and
where I can get one? I'll offer $30 for it! Thanks.
-- Jeff
Jeffrey T. Gayton
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