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Subject: Re: Scan-Indie
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 03:08:42 +0100
From: chief@LYSATOR.LIU.SE
Subject: ESP Summer cassette vs 10"
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:43:23 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Bedazzled Discography
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 19:37:04 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: cocteau _Milk and Kisses_ news (bad for some)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:43:52 -0800
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: CLM Discography
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 19:32:23 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Baraka
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:34:18 -0800
From: [suppressed]
Subject: Re: ESP Summer (continental)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 23:04:17 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: 1995 poll question/suggestion
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:51:34 -0500
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: New List: Slowdive & Mojave 3 Mailing List
Date: 16/01/96 11:30
From: "Keith O'Leary" (KEITH_O'LEARY@NON-HP-UNITEDKINGDOM-OM2.OM.HP.COM)
Subject: Re: c'lest la mort and much more
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 18:13:24 +0000
From: Richard Clemens (Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Tarnation (was: Re: musings on slowdive lyrics)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:25:00 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: HNIA bashing
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:13:50 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: His Name is Alive, ugh.
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:14:20 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: Frank Black - The Cult of Ray
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 08:30:32 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Season Clearance - Indie-pop 7"s
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 16:23:29 +1100
From: Season (season@WERPLE.NET.AU)
Subject: Re: CLM and Bedazzled discographies coming
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 23:59:43 -0600
From: Michael C Lawyer (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: things to do in the mojave when you're on the radio
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:23:13 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: I'm sorry but.....
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:03:40 +0000
From: "Keith O'Leary" (KEITH_O'LEARY@NON-HP-UNITEDKINGDOM-OM2.OM.HP.COM)
Subject: Re: FS: Cocteaus, Lisa G., Pale Saints, Belly
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:14:46 -0600
From: Stratton Davis (stratt@E-TEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Scan-Indie
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:35:59 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: ESP Summer (continental)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:39:43 -0600
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: post-rock/Mojave
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 19:34:32 -0500
From: outer accelerator (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Michael Brooks and U. Srinivas
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:41:42 -0800
From: Jeff Holcomb (jeffh@APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: Tarnation (was: Re: musings on slowdive lyrics)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:51:29 +0000
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Lilliput Sale!
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 07:36:37 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Lisa G. Live-the bad news
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 08:33:58 EDT
From: Christopher A Michaels/Instnl/VGI
Subject: c'lest la mort and much more
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:38:03 EST
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: Re: bros. quay
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 08:31:20 EST
From: LGC2C@DMT03.MCC.VIRGINIA.EDU
Subject: NEW DCD!!
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 96 19:54:42 -0500
From: White Raven and Sumer (korechthonia@delphi.com)
Subject: the doom generation
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:10:27 -0500
From: "tOM." (tom@BEAVIS.IRESEARCH.COM)
Subject: new mbv
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 07:54:57 -0800
From: phil locke (PLOCKE@US.ORACLE.COM)
Subject: Re: ESP-Continent Worldwide Mail Order!
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:56:17 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: c'lest la mort and much more
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:42:17 -0600
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: the doom generation
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:12:50 PST
From: "Martin A. HOYT" (MAHOYT@UCI.EDU)

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 03:08:42 +0100
From: chief@LYSATOR.LIU.SE
Subject: Re: Scan-Indie


On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, einexile the meek  wrote:

>> what exactly is the 'scan-indie' list?
>
> Scandinavian indie whatever. A lot of bands that probably sound goofier
> than KUKL ever did...or maybe not. I am on the list hoping for the odd
> bit of info re Stina Nordenstam. So far the search has turned up little
> save a little bit on a band she has collab'd with, or will do so, or
> something...

Your problem is that Stina Nordenstam isn't considered much of an
independent artist in her native country, and therefore, you won't
find any info about her on the Scandinavian Indie mailing list. You
should take a closer look at Usenet's Swedish Mainstream Music (or
whatever it's called) newsgroup, where bands like Ace of Base, Abba,
Roxette, etc. are discussed. What I'm trying to say is, that her
music is not the type of music ordinarily discussed on the Scan-indie
mailing list.

And it would take a lot for a band to sound goofier than KUKL.

> Also for some reason Frank Black keeps turning up on that list. I guess
> he has to hide somewhere.

Perhaps because he's touring with the _Swedish_ band The Wannadies
on his UK tour? You know, Scandinavia? Sweden, Denmark, Norway,
Finland and Iceland?

 rest assured,
 Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)

 // Scandinavian Indie - http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/scan.html   //
 // Mailing list - scan-indie-request@lysator.liu.se 'subscribe'      //
 // your independent internet guide to scandinavian independent music //


Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:43:23 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: ESP Summer cassette vs 10"


I think Keith asked if the ESP Summer 10" had
all the stuff on the tape.

No. The tape has a good deal more material. The
10" just has some of the tape in a greatly changed (ie. remixed)
form.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 19:37:04 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Bedazzled Discography


ps. I forgot to mention for the CLM discography that there
was never a Dr. Death Vol. 2.

Now here is the Bedazzled Discography

1-4 do not exist
SB 5    Strange Boutique        Easter Island
BDZ 6   Strange Boutique        The Loved One
BDZ 7   Buzzfish                Menthol 7"
BDZ 8   Strange Boutique        In A Heaven 7"
BDZ 9   Siddal                  Frozen Garden 7"
BDZ 10  Strange Boutique        Charm
BDZ 11  Viola Peacock           Echoplexia 7"
BDZ 12  Ultracherry Violet      Remember 7"
BDZ 13  Siddal                  Ghost 7"
BDZ 14  The Curtain Society     Chelsea 7"
BDZ 15  Mistle Thrush           Beside 7"
BDZ 16  Various                 Kindred Spirits
BDZ 17  Strange Boutique        The Kindest Worlds
BDZ 18  Viola Peacock           This Way To The Alley...
BDZ 19  Mistle Thrush           Agus Amarach
BDZ 20  Ultracherry Violet      I Fall To Pieces
BDZ 21  An April March          Lava 7"
BDZ 22  The Curtain Society     Inertia
BDZ 23  Siddal                  The Pedestal
BDZ 24  An April March          Instruments of Lust and Fury
BDZ 25  Various                 Woke Up Smiling
BDZ 26  Mistle Thrush           Silt
BDZ 27  Underflowers            Underflowers
BDZ 28  An April March          Lessons In Vengeance


|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:43:52 -0800
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: cocteau _Milk and Kisses_ news (bad for some)


At 3:40 PM 1/23/96, Read Dawkins wrote:
>I just heard that Capitol has moved the Cocteau's release back until April!!!
>The apparent reason was that too much was coming out around the original
>date.  Have they no faith in their artists?
>
>jason eugene
You must understand that all artists to an Account Executive is a
commodity.  The Rolling Stones never issued an album when the Beatles put
out an album and vis-a-versa.  It splits the buying of potential buying
power.  I know this because I studied such arcane subject matters in
college under my economic degree... fun stuff, right.


==================================================
Communicating from the corner of 5th and Vermouth

Fred/Derf Collins

(c/o elvia@uclink3.berkley.edu)

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 19:32:23 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: CLM Discography


As promised, here is the C'est La Mort Discography.
Two things to note: there are some gaps; I think 12-16 were
just skipped (Woody said something like that when
I talked to him ages ago), but I'm not sure about 42 and 46-49.
Can anyone fill these in?

CUest La Mort Discography

001     Dr. Death Vol. 1
002     Room Nine                       Voices Of A Summer Day
003     Freinds Of Ghosts               Realm Of The Senses
004     Psyche                          Unveiling Secret
006     Area                            The Perfect Dream
007     Dr. Death Vol. 3                Les Peches l'Amant
008     Arms Of Someone New             Promise
009     Beautiful Pea Green Boat        Still Life
010     Heavenly Bodies                 Celestial
011     Future Neighbors                Flesh Of Love
012-016 (unknown)                       (unknown)
017     Heavenly Bodies                 Rains On Me 12"
018     Area                            Radio Caroline
019     Arms Of Someone New             Every Seventh Wave
020     Blue Blue Blue                  Reclusallucination
021     Area                            Between Purple And Pink
022     Controlled Bleeding             Songs From Ashes
025     East Ash                        Crushing A Flood
026     Courage Of Lassie               Sing Or Die
027     Condition                       Swamp Walk
028     Handful Of Snowdrops            Land Of The Damned
029     Doctor Death Vol. 4             The Marvels Of Insect Life
030     Johanna's House Of Glamour      Farewell Street
031     Area                            Fragments of the Morning
032     M-1 Alternative                 Aviary
033     East Ash                        Ellie
034     Handful of Snowdrops            Dans l'oeil de la Tempete
035     Doctor Death Vol. 5             Hearts Lust In Limbo
036     Judgement Of Paris              Conversion
037     Grace Darling                   Grace Darling
038     Big Hat                         Shimmer
039     Doctor Death Vol. 6             Floribundus
040     Judgement Of Paris              Signal
041     M-1 Alternative                 The Little Threshing FLoor
042     ???                             ???
043     Ten Wings                       Wishing Well
044     Tel Basta                       Laid Up In Lavender
045     Johanna's House Of Glamour      Style Monsters
046     ???                             ???
047     ???                             ???
048     ???                             ???
049     ???                             ???
050     Johanna's House Of Glamour      Forever Autumn 7"


|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:34:18 -0800
From: [suppressed]
Subject: Re: Baraka


Baraka is available through J+R Music World.  They have it listed in
the video section of their catalog.  I don't have the number offhand but
just flip through the current issue of Stereo Review(They always
advertise in it)

On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Young Grasshopper wrote:

>         I'm looking for *any* information on a good source for the film Baraka

> My video store lists it as an official video release, but they said that it wa

> unavailable.  I'll pay good money for a copy...it's a beautiful film with Dead
> Can Dance and a host of world musicians on its soundtrack.  Thanks for your
> help.
>
>
>
> Aaron
>
> declerca@carleton.edu
>

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 23:04:17 CST
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: ESP Summer (continental)


>Does the ESP Summer 10" contain all the stuff from the original cassette?

no.  it's "remixes" (alterations w/some new stuff would be more accurate)
from the cassette -- done by warren.

>
>Will that be the same as the CD?
>

no.  as far as i understand, the cd is the time stereo cassette -- except on
cd (though i may be mistaken.)

BiZ

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:51:34 -0500
From: Creig Jacobson (CreigJ@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: 1995 poll question/suggestion


>Pondering the "best album on 4AD ever" category, it occured >to me that
quite
>a few of my favorite 4AD releases are EPs.  I am guessing >that an EP
doesn't
>qualify as an album.  Maybe the category should be "best
>release on 4AD
>ever"?

>Oh well, It is probably too late now...

>Martin
>mahoyt@uci.edu


Actually, a lot of people have translated "album" to mean "release"....so
feel free to count an EP as one in that category.

Compilation of poll results is going very well so far.  I have only 20-odd
responses so far, so get yours in soon.  Once again, the deadline is February
14th; results will probably be posted the following day.

Anyone who is in need of the poll categories should privately e-mail me at
    , and I plan to post them to the list again in about a
week (I'll mark it as a repost to save people the trouble).   Responses
should also be mailed PRIVATELY to   Thanks, everyone, and I
look forward to hearing from you.
CJ


Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:31:00 +0000
From: "Keith O'Leary" (KEITH_O'LEARY@NON-HP-UNITEDKINGDOM-OM2.OM.HP.COM)
Subject: Re: New List: Slowdive & Mojave 3 Mailing List


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Date: 16/01/96 11:30 AVALYN The Slowdive & Mojave 3 mailing list After noticing that there were a lot of people looking for a Slowdive mailing list, I've been thinking of starting one for a while, and well, here it is, including Mojave 3, for obvious reasons. :-) The Slowdive & Mojave 3 mailing list was made to cater for the discussions about the (no longer active) Creation band Slowdive and the (active) 4AD band Mojave 3 from the UK, as well as being a distribution list for the Internet Slowdive and Mojave 3 Discographies. To subscribe to the Live version of the list, e-mail: avalyn-request@lysator.liu.se, with the subject "Subscribe". Digests will be made, not in a daily manner, but rather when the size of collected messages from the live list reach about 40-45k. Please note that the digests will not include the Discographies, due to the large size of them. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, e-mail: avalyn-request@lysator.liu.se, with the subject "Subscribe Digest". Hope to see you on the list! //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 18:13:24 +0000
From: Richard Clemens (Richard.Clemens@ucsalf.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: c'lest la mort and much more


> the latest che' newsletter has this info(i just received this, but it is from
> late 1995):
>

che' (that's how you put an ' on on this e-mail mularky) seems a
fairly okay label - they sent me the last newsletter as well. Mainly
as a source for BEAR releases (2 CD singles and two shared 7" singles
as far as I know, updates welcomed) and other sort guitary noise
stuff. Well worth checking out if you like the MBV type stuff from
the "Duh!" sampler I picked up. Also whoever they send their promos
to in Manchester seems to put a lot of them straight in the second
hand shops. They might as well send them direct to me and cut out a
couple of middle people ; )

Richard who should go home but its cold, wet and windy in Salford and
he is on his bike


Richard Clemens, Centre Officer
Department of Construction & Surveying
University College Salford, Salford M6 6PU, UK

"The comfort you demanded is now mandatory"  Jello Biafra

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:25:00 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Tarnation (was: Re: musings on slowdive lyrics)


On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Jon Kvebaek wrote:

> einexile the meek wrote:
>
> > And a wee bit of 4AD news. (Is this old?) Tarnation supposedly bailed.
>
> Not so much bailed as dropped a few members (everyone except Paula?) and
> obtained a few new ones. At least that's what I've heard...

What I hear is there was some sort of disagreement and Paula Frazer is no
longer doing business with 4AD.

 einexile the rumormongre


Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:13:50 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: HNIA bashing


>I don't care for HNIA either.  I've offered my copy of Livonia up for
>trade/sell several times on this list but had no offers. (none!)  That kind of
>sums up to me what the general excitement level surrounding this disc is.

OK, all us HNIA fans... let's stick up for Livonia! :)
Personally I think HNIA is one of the most innovative
bands 4AD has ever worked with. Both Livonia and especially
Home Is In Your Head are brilliant, among the label's finest
moments. I'd take somewhat challenging music like this anytime
over some of the other offerings of late.

Speaking of which, I've been meaning to respond to the
"what was it you liked about Slowdive anyway" query.
For me, nearly the entire pleasure I got out of their
songs pre-Pygmalion was first and foremost the guitars.
The whole big, swirly, shoegazy mess. Morningrise!
She Calls! That's the sound I loved them dearly for. The vocals were fine,
but they must have been secondary to me, because Pygmalion
and the Mojave album don't affect me at all in the same way.


|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:14:20 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: His Name is Alive, ugh.


...and Marvyn makes three.

I don't care for HNIA either.  I've offered my copy of Livonia up for
trade/sell several times on this list but had no offers. (none!)  That kind of
sums up to me what the general excitement level surrounding this disc is.

Maybe in discussing Livonia as "noise"; neitzl@TEZCAT.COM is simply stating
that the CD seems like a bunch of discordant fragments.  (That's how I feel
anyway.)  It never really adds up to anything; as many times as I listen to
it, I still don't "get it".

Actually I purchased it by mistake thinking it was "The Kindness of Strangers"
in 1991 or sometime around then.  See what happens when you grab something by
looking at the artwork?  (which is the best part of the CD)


marvynHortman                  ftp://sharedcast.hccs.cc.tx.us

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 08:30:32 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: Frank Black - The Cult of Ray


>Short review: It sucks, don't buy it.

You're right, it's a cheap-frank-black-imitation. But the four songs on the bonu
-cd are better than the whola album. I wish I could buy this four-track only bec
use I'm not going to buy 'The Cult of Ray'...

So if anyone finds a few copies of this bonus-cd, let me know.




Emiel Efdee

the Netherlands, January 24, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 16:23:29 +1100
From: Season (season@WERPLE.NET.AU)
Subject: Season Clearance - Indie-pop 7"s


Ok, here's a few records that my girlfriend, Charm would like to sell...send
offers (in $US) to my address...season@werple.net.au

AFTERGLOW       FALL BEHIND     SUMMERSHINE 23  7"
AUTOHAZE        DIVE INTO THE SUN       SUMMERSHINE 25  7"
AUTOHAZE        UNDECIDED       SUMMERSHINE 13  7"
BATS    BLOCK OF WOOD   F.NUN84 7"
CAPTAIN COCOA   BORN TO SHOP    MUSICLAND       7"
CHILLS  PINK FROST      FLYING NUN      7"
CHILLS  ROLLING MOON    FLYING NUN      7"
CLEAN   GETTING OLDER   FLYING NUN      7"
CLERGY  ROSETHORN       SELF    7"
CLUB HOY        ON AND ON       WATERFRONT 128  7"
DIED PRETTY     TIME/ MARCH PAST        DP001   7"
EARTHMEN        COOL CHICK #59  SUMMERSHINE 031 7"
EARTHMEN        FIGURE 8        SUMMERSHINE044  7"
EARTHMEN        STACEY'S CUPBOARD/ROLL  SUMMERSHINE 20  7"
EVEN AS WE SPEAK        BLUE SUBURBAN SKIES     BIG HOME        7"
EVEN AS WE SPEAK        GOES SO SLOW    PHANTOM 34      7"
EVEN AS WE SPEAK        I WON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT YOU (2ND)   BIG HOME        
"
EVEN AS WE SPEAK        ONE STEP FORWARD EP     SARAH 049       7"
EVEN AS WE SPEAK        SMALL FISH IN A BIG MACHINE (1ST SINGLE)        VOYEUR  
"
FEAR OF FALLING CROSSROADS OF REALITY   PHANTOM 7"
FEAR OF FALLING FOR THE TOURIST PHANTOM 7"
FEAR OF FALLING HAND IN HAND    PHANTOM 7"
FEAR OF FALLING YOUR PLACE      PHANTOM 7"
GIRL OF THE WORLD       LE CIRQUE       PARASOL 7"
GIRL OF THE WORLD       TRAVEL EP       PARASOL 7"
HONEYS  GONE AWAY/MONSTER       WATERFRONT 109  7"
HONEYS  THE MAN WHO WAS THROUGH ...     WATERFRONT 87   7"
HUMMINGBIRDS    2 WEEKS WITH A GOOD MAN ROOART  7"
HUMMINGBIRDS    BLUSH (SIGNED)  ROLLING STONE   7"
HUMMINGBIRDS    GET ON DOWN     PHANTOM 26      7"
HUMMINGBIRDS    HINDSIGHT       PHANTOM 29      7"
LOVE POSITIONS  LIGHT OF DAY    HALF A COW 1    7"
MACGUFFINS      RICH TOGETHER   DEX     7"
PRAY TV SPENT   AUGOGO 114      7"
RAINYARD        HELLBENT SUICIDAL...    SUMMERSHINE 03  7"
RIPE    SPACESUIT 42    POLYESTER 19    7"
STRAIGHTJACKET FITS     DOWN IN SPLENDOUR       FLYING NUN      DBL 7"
SUGARGLIDERS    AH PRAHRAN      SARAH72 7"
SUGARGLIDERS    ANOTHER FAUX PAS...     MARINE 3        7"
SUGARGLIDERS    BUTTERFLY SOUP  SUMMERSHINE 12  7"
SUGARGLIDERS    FURLOUGH        SUMMERSHINE 07  7"
SUGARGLIDERS    LETTER FROM A LIFEBOAT  SARAH 063       7"
SUGARGLIDERS    SEVENTEEN       SARAH67 7"
SUGARGLIDERS    SWAY    SUMMERSHINE 04  7"
SUGARGLIDERS    TOP 40 SCULPTURE        SARAH86 7"
SUGARGLIDERS    TRUMPET PLAY    SARAH77 7"
SUGARGLIDERS    WILL WE EVER LEARN      SARAH83 7"
THE FILLS       MONTH   FILLS   7"
WHIPPER SNAPPERS        YOU NEVER LOOK  GREEN FEZ 4     7"
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   |      |     Season : Flat 3, 41 Shelley St, Elwood, 3184
   |      |              Victoria, Australia.
   | (o)(o)     Ph/Fax : 61 3 9 531 5049
   C      _)    P.S "this is an interesting signature" (smiley face)
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 23:59:43 -0600
From: Michael C Lawyer (lawmic@BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: CLM and Bedazzled discographies coming


>I'm also going to post a Bedazzled discography, having just worked
>one out. They're is becoming THE label to watch, and if you're
>fed up with the whole 4AD situation, I think Bedazzled is becoming
>a fine substitute.
>
Where did they get that name from? I know of a movie of that name that was
supposedly very good, and I have an EP of a band called Beddazzled which is
five remixes of music from the same move, but the band consists of Chris
Conolly (Revco, ministry, pigface, Murder inc, most any other industrial
band) and the bassist from The Jesus Lizzard, the band never struck me as
thislisty and I'm not sure if their is a connection or not, but I am very
curious.

/-=-\/-=-\/-=-\/-=-\/-=-\/-=-\/-=-\/-=-\
On monday when the sun is hot
I wonder to my self a lot
"Is it true, or is it not,
That what is which, and which is what?"
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
/\/\/\/\/\lawmic@bethel.edu/\/\/\/\/\
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-mike (or not as the case may be)

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:23:13 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: things to do in the mojave when you're on the radio


On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, The Sid James Experience wrote:

> >>>love songs on the radio
> >>>        your sweetheart lies in bed
> >>>        she's dreaming of the things you said
> >>>        she's hoping that it's meant

> I'm not kidding, but I didn't see that one at all. It should be "they're"
> because of "things", you mean? That's true, but hardly a glaring error.
> Besides, it doesn't infer anything different whether it says "it's" or
> "they're" - it's comprehensible either way.
>
> e, is this what you were referring to?

Yes. "It's" cannot refer to "things" so it must be in reference to
something else. Neil is not a careless writer of lyrics. And he is
clever. So either we have "it" as the sole mention of something, or what
it's doing is focussing in on one of the things--who cares which or
what--but a sense that many things have been said and are being thought
about, but one of them is so exceedingly important as to stand out
obviously from the others, recognizable enough that "it" needs no further
explanation.

At least that's what it would mean if *I* wrote it. :)


 e again

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:03:40 +0000
From: "Keith O'Leary" (KEITH_O'LEARY@NON-HP-UNITEDKINGDOM-OM2.OM.HP.COM)
Subject: I'm sorry but.....


Item Subject: HNIA bashing
I'm sorry - my boss has asked me to remove my name from your list
but I've lost my mailing list instructions.
Can somebody help?
K


Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:14:46 -0600
From: Stratton Davis (stratt@E-TEX.COM)
Subject: Re: FS: Cocteaus, Lisa G., Pale Saints, Belly


At 04:42 PM 1/23/96 -0500, you wrote:
>hope these cds might be of interest to some of you:
>
>>Lisa Germano "on the way down from the moon palace"
>
>>Pale Saints "mrs. dolphin"
>
>>Cocteau Twins "the conversation disc series" (ABCD 010)--- limited edition
>of 1500.
>
>>Belly "baby silvertooth"--- still in shrink wrap.
>
>>...think i'm getting the hang of it
>
>reply to me if you're interested. thanks for looking.
>
>Jeff


How much do you want for the CT interview disc??

Stratton
stratt@e-tex.com

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:35:59 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Scan-Indie


On Wed, 24 Jan 1996 chief@LYSATOR.LIU.SE wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, einexile the meek  wrote:
>
> >> what exactly is the 'scan-indie' list?
> >
> > Scandinavian indie whatever. A lot of bands that probably sound goofier
> > than KUKL ever did...or maybe not. I am on the list hoping for the odd
> > bit of info re Stina Nordenstam. So far the search has turned up little
> > save a little bit on a band she has collab'd with, or will do so, or
> > something...
>
> Your problem

It wasn't a problem; it was an explanation. To someone else.

> is that Stina Nordenstam isn't considered much of an
> independent artist in her native country,

Is she even on a label in her native country?

> > Also for some reason Frank Black keeps turning up on that list. I guess
> > he has to hide somewhere.
>
> Perhaps because he's touring with the _Swedish_ band The Wannadies
> on his UK tour? You know, Scandinavia? Sweden, Denmark, Norway,
> Finland and Iceland?

Ah! I knew there had to be some connection! I was starting to wonder if
perhaps Sweden was the only country left that would allow the fucker
within its borders.


 einexile

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:39:43 -0600
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: ESP Summer (continental)


>Does the ESP Summer 10" contain all the stuff from the original cassette?
>
>Will that be the same as the CD?

The cassette came first, and the CD is the same thing as the cassette.  The
songs on the 10" came into existence about six or eight months later when
Warren remixed a bunch of songs from the cassette for the express purpose of
doing a 10" EP that would complement the cassette/CD.  I can't vouch for my
objectivity, but they are different enough, I think.


hk
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 19:34:32 -0500
From: outer accelerator (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: post-rock/Mojave


> > Somewhat interesting article in the latest Guitar Player (?)
> > about the stupidly named and possibly not at all existent
> > "post-rock" phenomenon,. The angle is basically "Do you [meaning
> > yer average rock guitar dude] have anything to fear from bands
> > with names like Tortoise, Laika and Pram?" (Answer: since they
> > play funny-looking axes and none of them can play like Stevie
> > Ray, no).
>
>But I hear Pram have been taking lessons from Steve Vai, so watch out
>for plenty of rockin' action on their next release.

Actually, the article mentioned that Matthew, the guitarist from Pram, seems
to be the most "rock 'n' roll" member of the band. First prize for nerdiness
has to go to the guys from The Sea and Cake, though.

>>>>>love songs on the radio
>>>>>        your sweetheart lies in bed
>>>>>        she's dreaming of the things you said
>>>>>        she's hoping that it's meant

>yes, it's comprehensible, but
>still wrong.

And there's no question of there being another meaning that can be read into
it, unlike the "lies in bed" part.

>And I do know what a fucking lyric is,
>thanks.

Pah. The way you used the word before, you could have fooled me.


Eerie coincidence for today:
The drummer in Martha and the Muffins was named...Tim Gane! Spook!

Larry


Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:41:42 -0800
From: Jeff Holcomb (jeffh@APPLE.COM)
Subject: Re: Michael Brooks and U. Srinivas


At 9:48 AM 1/22/96, Larry Harbin wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Someone asked earlier about the Michael Brooks collaborative effort with an
>Indian musician.  I believe this is the U. Srinivas and Brooks CD entitled
>_Dream_.  I have not heard this, but I am somewhat familiar with Srinivas
>and his solo efforts.  He plays mandolin in the southern Indian tradition,
>Carnatic or Karnatic, and I have found his work to be excellent, if you enjoy
>traditional Indian ragas.  I think any collaboration with Brooks should prove
>interesting and I'm on the lookout for this CD.

I bought this cd several months ago and totally love it.  It is from Peter
Gabriel's Real World label.  The blurb on the back cover says:  "A journey
through the darker meditations of Eastern and Western ambient music.
Virtuoso Indian mandolin player in conversation with Michael Brook, Nigel
Kennedy, Caroline Lavelle, Jane Siberry, Sikkil R. Bhaskaran and Nana
Vasconcelos."  Brook both performed on and produced the album.


Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:51:29 +0000
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Tarnation (was: Re: musings on slowdive lyrics)


On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, einexile the meek wrote:

> What I hear is there was some sort of disagreement and Paula Frazer is no
> longer doing business with 4AD.

No? A 4AD employee just told me that Ivo wanted to head the new band as a
singer/guitarist/songwriter/drummer, and Paula would be reduced to play
the tambourine and do some backing vocals. For some reason, Paula felt that
this affected her artistical integrity - and consequently left 4AD.
Sad story really...

Jon Kvebaek 

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mechanic in his basement workshop. References are 'Collected Works of
Willam Reich', 'Journeys Out of the Body' by Robert A. Monroe.
                             - William S. Burroughs, "Port of Saints"


Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 07:36:37 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: Lilliput Sale!



How about $65?

Keep me posted on the bids and also where I can
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 08:33:58 EDT
From: Christopher A Michaels/Instnl/VGI
Subject: Lisa G. Live-the bad news


I had posted to the list that I was going to tape
a Lisa G. live radio performance.  Well.........
due to unforeseen circumstances I wasn't able to.
Sorry to get anyone's hopes up!
Hopefully someone else out there in list-land
had the opportunity!

sorry!

chris
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
"like the stone i've weathered slowly"-SL&G
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:38:03 EST
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.MEA.COM)
Subject: c'lest la mort and much more


the latest che' newsletter has this info(i just received this, but it is from
late 1995):

"johanna's house of glamour have a new-ish 7" out on a label called
c'lest la mort, it's called 'forever autumn, they've had records out
previously on the excellent sticky label and are well worth your
attention"

c'lest la mort
po box 1351
eugene, oregon 97440

also, maybe of some interest:

"the slightly disturbing news from 18th dye is that drummer piet has
finally been dragged away to do his national service.  being of danish
birth this seems to be something that cannot be avoided, even if you
no longer live in denmark.  the good news is that he'll only be away
for about six months (it could have been worse apparently), but it
does mean that there'll be no new lp from 18th dye until at least
november 96.  life sucks.  it's possible he'll be able to take time
out for the band to record a new single in the meantime, we shall see."

"dart released their 'bugger' 7" on che' in october.  their uk november
dates had to be shelved due to internal band problems, and the release
date of the lp has subsequently been put back to february.  it'll be
worth the wait!  36 CENTS AN HOUR will be available on cd and vinyl,
and it looks totally wonderful."

"lilys have been most busy these last couple of months.  the first
thing is that plans to release the ECCSAME/AMAZING LETDOWNS cd
compilation have been shelved because main lilys guy kurt heasley
wants to remix all he tracks.  this is not a problem as such, but
we've had calls from people looking for this cd, and it's obviously
not appeared.  the exciting news is that the lilys have just finished
the final mixes for their new record.  we have a twelve track lp CAN"T
MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER that will come out sometime around may next year,
preceded by a single 'returned ever mourning'."

"fuxa have an astoundingly wonderful 7" ep on a label called burnt hair,
FREE YOUR SOUL is minimal instrumental and ambient, i've been playing
this to death, on the same label is windy & carl and grvity wax, pretty
much the same kind of stuff, all totally essential.  contact mind
expansion, po box 5519, dearborn, mi 48128 usa.  windy & carl have a
cd out on the excellent ba da bing label, PORTAL is genius, we'll have
this on mail-order shortly.  check out the ba da bing FOLLOW THE
BOUNCING BALL COMPILATION we have on mail-order!"

also, there is quite a lengthy tindersticks discography.

does anyone have any info on merzbow?

i tried to type this in a fast as possible, so sorry for any
grammar/spelling mistakes.

alan

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 08:31:20 EST
From: LGC2C@DMT03.MCC.VIRGINIA.EDU
Subject: Re: bros. quay

              

just when you thought it was safe to get back in the water...
Further details:  There is a Saturday 1/27 2:30 ;showing of the
short films of the Bros. Quay.  Sunday at 6:00 PM, in the Nat'l
Gallery, the filmmakers will actually introduce their film,
Institute Benjamenta, their first feature length film.  Prom;ises
to be worth the drive - but I would recommend getting there EARLY.
Besides this exceptional program, their schedule for the
upcoming 2 mos. pretty amazing.  A whole series of Werner Herzog
films in February - HE will ac;tually be at a 2/25 6:00 screening of
Transformation of the World into Music.  Be there.

Call the National for a schedule, or feel free to e-mail me directly
for details.

gay church

Gay Church
University of Virginia, Health Sciences Center
lgc2c@virginia.mcc.edu
804-924-2930


Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 05:31:36 -0800
From: Ed Wakabayashi (zorg@ALOIS.ICON.PALO-ALTO.MED.VA.GOV)
Subject: New DCD info?


I plucked this off of alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc.  Any concrete info
pertaining to this?  Also, if anyone out there recorded the Lisa
Gerrard broadcast on Echoes, I'd love to get a copy and can offer
some live DCD in return.

Ed
---------------------------

From: White Raven and Sumer (korechthonia@delphi.com)
Subject: NEW DCD!!

Date: Sat, 20 Jan 96 19:54:42 -0500 Hi all! According to an interview with Lisa Gerrard, the new DCD album will be out in April. (whether that is the UK/Europe release or the US/CA release, I don't know). It is entitled _Future Music_. If anyone happens to get a promo of this before its release, please post! Raven -- Edward Wakabayashi /\ You've kissed everybody else's \/ so you can kiss my ass as well zorg@alois.icon.palo-alto.med.va.gov /\ -*Her Majesty the Baby*- zorg@interramp.com \/

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:10:27 -0500
From: "tOM." (tom@BEAVIS.IRESEARCH.COM)
Subject: the doom generation


Saw this soundtrack in the music store the other day and noticed that Slowdive
(unfortunatly I don't remember which song) was one of tracks on it.  It also
has
a pretty good smattering of this-listy bands.  That's when I realized, damn, it
was playing last weekend but doesn't look like its on the schedule anymore at
the local theatre.  Anyone seen seen this movie?  How is the soundtrack?

If this has already been covered and I have just been reading my mail with
my eyes closed, please just send me a summary.



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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 07:54:57 -0800
From: phil locke (PLOCKE@US.ORACLE.COM)
Subject: new mbv


since there's been discussion of a new MBV ep, i thought i'd
toss out a couple blurbs from the latest ICE...

1) "the WMO label -- distributed by Caroline -- plans
February 20 for a Wire tribute album, titled _Whore_.
Among the 21 participants are Lush, My Bloody Valentine,
Mike Watt, aMiniature, and Band of Susans."

2) "Noted musician-writer David Toop has compiled an album
of key tracks and environmental sounds, _Ocean of Sound_,
which explores the development of ambient music.  The
double-disc set features a suprising breadth of artists,
ranging from The Beach Boys to Aphex Twin, Debussy to
Miles Davis and Erik Satir to Sun Ra.  Other artists include
King Tubby, My Bloody Valentine and Herbie Hancock."

no word on where the tracks for these albums come from.  Lush
has already covered "outdoor miner", but then so have FSA
and Antenna.

anyway...

--phil

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:56:17 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: ESP-Continent Worldwide Mail Order!


> Price is $20, which include postage rates (for USA and wordlwide), payable
> by IMO (Inernational Mail Order) to Karina Square, or simply cash.

$20 in. . . U.S. dollars?  ??

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:42:17 -0600
From: a bear of very little brain (hk@NEOSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: c'lest la mort and much more


>"dart released their 'bugger' 7" on che' in october.  their uk november
>dates had to be shelved due to internal band problems, and the release
>date of the lp has subsequently been put back to february.  it'll be
>worth the wait!  36 CENTS AN HOUR will be available on cd and vinyl,
>and it looks totally wonderful."

Despite some grumblings to the contrary (hi, Rick!), the album does look
quite nice, and it sounds even better.  '36 Cents an Hour' should be readily
available Stateside, although I'm not quite sure when it's coming out (I've
heard rumors of the release date being pushed back further, but them's
scuttlebutt).

Yadda yadda yadda,


hk
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:12:50 PST
From: "Martin A. HOYT" (MAHOYT@UCI.EDU)
Subject: Re: the doom generation


tom@iresearch.com wrote (about "The Doom Generation"):

>Saw this soundtrack in the music store the other day and noticed that
>Slowdive (unfortunatly I don't remember which song) was one of tracks on it.

It's "Blue Skied an' Clear" from Pygmallion.  I also noticed the Spooky remix
of "Undertow" by Lush.  Can anyone who has picked this up recommend it? (the
soundtrack I mean, not the Lush remix)?

Martin
mahoyt@uci.edu


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