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Subject: Baraka
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:44:22 -0600
From: Young Grasshopper (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: The Cardigans
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 05:27:42 +0100
From: chief@LYSATOR.LIU.SE
Subject: Re: Mojave Whathaveya
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 00:04:48 -0500
From: "D.P. Mac pherson" (u9303494@MUSS.CIS.MCMASTER.CA)
Subject: Re: His Name is Alive, ugh.
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 00:18:22 -0600
From: Me (neitzl@TEZCAT.COM)
Subject: little CD sale
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 00:14:00 CDT
From: Igor V Boronenkov (BORODA@MACC.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Baraka
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 01:09:29 -0400
From: ash (ash@dhp.com)
Subject: noise and charnel things
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 23:47:59 -0800
From: silverbelle faerie (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Season Clearance - pop records - general
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:25:46 +1100
From: Season (season@WERPLE.NET.AU)
Subject: Re: mbv new ep??
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:55:27 -0800
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: lots of little things that add up to nothing
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 02:38:55 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: digest this!!
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 06:17:56 -0500
From: Hement Gopal (090GOPAL@UWCC.CC.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: Black Core and other stuff.
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:41:01 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: musings on slowdive lyrics
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 06:55:25 -0500
From: The Sid James Experience (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: V23 exhibition, who's planning to go?
Date: 20 January 1996 01:32
From: 4ad recording artists list
Subject: Re: Lush Demo/rare stuff for trade/ sorry in advance
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 13:43:33 +0000
From: Jaax Lawson (jaax@ARIA3.LYON.ARCHI.FR)
Subject: shelleyan orphan
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:13:35 -0500
From: Alan Grigg (alan@minster.cs.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re. Baraka and DCD
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:30:39 -0500
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: BB Shop... / Nefilim / Rubicon
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 04:29:32 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Tarnation (was: Re: musings on slowdive lyrics)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:42:58 +0000
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Lisa Gerrard live!
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:38:54 EDT
From: Christopher A Michaels/Instnl/VGI
Subject: Re: Snow, Cocteau, Snow, Box
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:45:16 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: 1995 poll question/suggestion
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:46:44 PST
From: "Martin A. HOYT" (MAHOYT@UCI.EDU)
Subject: Re: bros. quay
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:02:53 -0500
From: Hershal Shevade (hman@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU)
Subject: V23 thing in Newcastle
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:26:00 GMT
From: Paul Rankine (Paul.Rankine@MAIL.SEMA.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: noise and charnel things
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:45:05 -0800
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Snow, Cocteau, Snow, Box
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:23:21 -0800
From: Joel Krueger (jwkrueger@UCDAVIS.EDU)
Subject: and another thing
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:37:17 -0500
From: Sargent David Edward (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: Re: His Name is Alive, ugh.
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:50:33 -0700
From: sean devine (kober@GAS.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU)
Subject: LIAE video formats
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:10:15 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: in search of a Blue Day
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:03:39 -0600
From: Salome (lnvoigt@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Michael Brooks and U. Srinivas
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:48:10 CST
From: Larry Harbin (LHARBIN@UA1VM.UA.EDU)
Subject: free sects
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:30:06 -0500
From: Sargent David Edward (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Softlights and the Black Core...
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:50:13 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: LIAE / VHS formats
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:44:31 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Re: noise and charnel things
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:51:53 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: good shows in the next week
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:39:16 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re : Thislisty shops in London
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:26:00 GMT
From: Paul Rankine (Paul.Rankine@MAIL.SEMA.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses : New Album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 12:16:18 -0500
From: Adam J Weitzman (weitzman@INDIVIDUAL.COM)
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses : New Album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:06:51 +0100
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Is Kristin Hersh the best songwriter in the world?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 17:08:51 +0100
From: Thomas Ellingsen (jtelling@sn.no)

Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:44:22 -0600
From: Young Grasshopper (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Baraka


        I'm looking for *any* information on a good source for the film Baraka.
My video store lists it as an official video release, but they said that it was
unavailable.  I'll pay good money for a copy...it's a beautiful film with Dead
Can Dance and a host of world musicians on its soundtrack.  Thanks for your
help.



Aaron

declerca@carleton.edu

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 05:27:42 +0100
From: chief@LYSATOR.LIU.SE
Subject: Re: The Cardigans


On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, Ricardo Montalban  wrote:

> Hi. Can anyone out there bring me up to speed about The Cardigans?

Check out the following WWW page:

 Regards,
 //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se)

(P.S. If you don't have WWW access, let me know and I'll dig up
      the information for you. D.S.)


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 00:04:48 -0500
From: "D.P. Mac pherson" (u9303494@MUSS.CIS.MCMASTER.CA)
Subject: Re: Mojave Whathaveya


I'm terrible at figuring out guitar chords and was wondering if anyone
could help me out with any other mojave songs such as mercy or tomorrow's
taken or anything else???????????
i do think the album is brilliant
dave

On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, a bear of very little brain wrote:

> Not to pick nits w/ [spiral], but I just happened to have my guitar handy at
> the time.  The guitars on "Sarah" are capoed on the first fret, so the
> verses are D# and G#.  The bit before the bridge "...but I can't hide, I'm
> hurting babe, but I can't cry" is Gmin -> G#, and the line "lay your love on
> me" (inexcusable bit of rawk lyricism, but much more excusable than... erm,
> Oasis perhaps) is Cmin -> A# -> G#.
>
> Or something vaguely like that.  Light a candle and play along.  :)
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> hk
> --
> hk kahng | hk@neosoft.com & farrago@delphi.com
>          | http://www.neosoft.com/~hk/home.htm
>          | hey, look! i'm picasso!
>

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 00:18:22 -0600
From: Me (neitzl@TEZCAT.COM)
Subject: Re: His Name is Alive, ugh.


>> then i popped it in, and it was just noise.  If anyone is interested in
>
>Merzbow is noise.
>His Name is Alive _Livonia_ is not noise.
>
>Mike
>
>
Noise
"You are the sweetness in my eyes                You are an apple in disguise
 You are the sweetness i need for life           You are the sweetness in my
eyes"

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 00:14:00 CDT
From: Igor V Boronenkov (BORODA@MACC.WISC.EDU)
Subject: little CD sale


salute,
a little CD sale.. EMAIL PRIVATELY, PLEASE!!!

Leftfield       Leftism   $7.50ppd
Chemical Brothers       Exit planet dust        $7.50ppd
Sleeping Dogs Wake      Sugar Kisses(projekt/hyperium)  $8ppd
The The    Infected     $7ppd
Various   ..and even wolves hid their teeth(cold meat industry sampler)   $8ppd
O Yuki Conjugate        Peyote    $8ppd
Heavenly Bodies Celestial( Ullrich from DCD)    $8ppd
Various Dr.Death vol.IV(2CD C'est la mort, incl. Area, Contr. Bleeding etc)
        $12ppd
Ordo Equitum Solis      OES (EP)        $6.50ppd
Opium Den       Dairy of a drunken sun  $6.50ppd
Ten Wings       Wishing Well(C'est la mort,Souixie'sh)  $6.50ppd

Boroda

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 01:09:29 -0400
From: ash (ash@dhp.com)
Subject: Re: Baraka


Young Grasshopper wrote:
>
>         I'm looking for *any* information on a good source for the film Baraka

> My video store lists it as an official video release, but they said that it wa

> unavailable.  I'll pay good money for a copy...it's a beautiful film with Dead
> Can Dance and a host of world musicians on its soundtrack.  Thanks for your
> help.
>
> Aaron
>
> declerca@carleton.edu

hi there aaron,
in regards to your query concerning the film 'baraka', it is
available (though apparently still difficult to obtain.) i work at a
video store on the east coast and special ordered several copies for
the store from a distribution company called baker & taylor.
apparently, at the time it was released we were the only store in
the states (that b & t supplied) that ordered it! it's really a
goddamn shame, because the film is just brilliant. it rents
constantly, even in the cultural vacuum where i am (pittsburgh).
i have it playing frequently on the store monitors and generally
about 50-60% of the people ask about it.
unfortunately, i should point out that, for whatever ridiculous
reason, the video version is pan & scan and not letterboxed. for
such a beautiful 'art film', which is likely to be seen only by
those who appreciate film, it doesn't make a bit of sense as you
lose a third of the picture due to the cropping.
however, the rarer still laserdisc version, which i have, is
letterboxed. absolutely breathtaking...
although there are only two DCD tracks in it, they fit the imagery
like a glove, and the rest of the score is fantastic as well. anyone
who hasn't seen it should hunt it down.
try to locate it. if for some reason it's not available get a hold
of me and i'll see if i can help you out...
takecare,
peace love and squalor,
                       K-


Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 23:47:59 -0800
From: silverbelle faerie (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: noise and charnel things


  would a fellow noise addict be so kind as to point me in the
  direction of a current charnel music catalog? seems that there
  are a few things missing from my evergrowing monsterous collektion
  of strange music, most specifically the trance cd w/ol defevery
  help and some gravitar things....


  filtered through a dozen delays, k


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:25:46 +1100
From: Season (season@WERPLE.NET.AU)
Subject: Season Clearance - pop records - general


Ok, here's a few records that my girlfriend, Charm would like to sell...send
offers (in $US) to my address...season@werple.net.au



A HOUSE CALL ME BLUE    BLANCOYNEGRO    7"
A HOUSE KICK ME AGAIN JESUS     RIP 1   7"
A HOUSE SNOWBALL DOWN/YOU       RIP 2   7"
AMELIA  CAN YOU KEEP A SECRET?  FIERCE 055      7"
BABY LEMONADE   SECRET GOLDFISH NARODNIK 4      7"
BACHELOR PAD    SMOOTHIE        EGG 6   7"
BIFF BANG POW!  SOMEONE STOLE MY WHEELS CRE 034 7"
BIFF BANG POW!  THE WHOLE WORLDS TURNING BROUCHARD!     CRE 038 7"
BLAKE BABIES    LADIES WITH AN ATTITUDE...      WATERFRONT      7"
BODINES GOD BLESS/PARADISE      CRE 016 7"
BODINES HEARD IT ALL    CRE 030 7"
BOYRACER        AUL 36X EP      SLUMBERLAND35   7"
BRIAN   YOU DON'T WANT A BOYFRIEND      DETZI 1 7"
CANDY DARLINGS  THAT'S WHERE CAROLINE LIVES     TEA TIME 07     7"
CHARLOTTES      ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?      MOLESWORTH 5    7"
CHESTERFIELDS   GUITAR IN YOUR BATH     SUBWAY 03       7"
CLOSE LOBSTERS  NEVER SEEN BEFORE       FIRE 20 7"
CONFETTI        SEA ANEMON EP   SUNDAY 12       7"
DARLING BUDS    BURST   EPIC    7"
DARLING BUDS    IT'S ALL UP TO YOU      NATIVE 33       7"
DARLING BUDS    SHAME ON YOU    NATIVE 1        7"
DEARLY  ONLY BETWEENS   GRIMSEY02       7"
DIE FUNF FREUNDE        PERFECT DAY     MARSH-MARIGOLD 05       7"
EAST VILLAGE    VIBRATO/VIOLIN  SUMMERSHINE 14  7"
FAT TULIPS      DRIVING ME WILD VINYL JAPAN 11  7"
FAT TULIPS      FOUR SONGS FOR SIMON    HEAVEN 2        7"
FAT TULIPS      NEW SPRING RITES FOR SARAH      VINYL JAPAN 12  7"
FAT TULIPS      WHERE'S CLARE GROGAN NOW?       HEAVEN 1        7"
FIVE YEAR PLAN  HIT THE BOTTLE  BREAK 3 7"
HAYWAINS        FISHERMAN'S FRIEND      EMILY'S SHOP 1  7"
HONEYBUNCH      WALKING INTO WALLS      SUMMERSHINE 18  7"
IMPOSSIBLES     DELPHIS FONTANA 7"
IT'S IMMATERIAL SPACE   SIREN   7"
JAMES DEAN DRIVING EXP...       DEAN'S ELEVENTH DREAM   AUTUMN 1        7"
JESSE GARON...  ADAM FAITH EXPERIENCE   VELOCITY 1      7"
JESSE GARON...  SPLASHING ALONG NARODNIK 1      7"
JESSE GARON...  UNION CITY BLUE VELOCITY 3      7"
JESTERBELLS     JUST LIKE APPLES        MARSH-MARIGOLD 02       7"
JESUS AND MARY CHAIN    APRIL SKIES     BLANCOYNEGRO    7"
JESUS AND MARY CHAIN    SURFIN' USA     BLANCOYNEGRO    7"
JESUS AND MARY CHAIN    UPSIDE DOWN     CRE 012 7"
LEGENDARY BANG  BIG BLUFF       MARSH-MARIGOLD 07       7"
LINDA SMITH     TIL ANOTHER TIME        SLUMBERLAND 016 7"
LOFT    UP THE HILL & DOWN THE SLOPE    CRE 015 7"
LORELEI ASLEEP  SLUMBERLAND 032 7"
MAN FROM DELMONTE       WATER IN MY EYES        UGLY MAN 5      7"
MAYFIELDS       DEEPER THAN THE OCEAN   BUS STOP 05     7"
MAYFIELDS       WORLD OF YOUR OWN       AMBITION 1      7"
McCARTHY        FRANS HALS      PINK 17 7"
MEAT WHIPLASH   DON'T SLIP UP   CRE 020 7"
MIGHTY LEMON DROPS      THE OTHER SIDE OF YOU   BLUE GUITAR     7"
MOSSPOLES       ONE SUMMER      IDEA 06 7"
MOUSEFOLK       GRANNIES CAKE CRISIS    TEA TIME 03     7"
MOUSEFOLK       SONGS OF LOVE AND HATE  TEA TIME 05     7"
MUSICAL CHAIRS  TIME LAPSE      SOMERSAULT      7"
MY BLOODY VALENTINE     NO PLACE TO GO  FEVER 5 7"
MY BLOODY VALENTINE     SUNNY SUNDAE SMILE      LAZY 04 7"
ONE THOUSAND VIOLINS    LOVE IN DREAMWORLD      7"
PALESAINTS      A THOUSAND STARS BURST OPEN - BONUS 7"  4AD     7"
PASTELS DIFFERENT DRUM (SIGNED BY STEPHEN!)     K RECORDS       7"
PASTELS SONGS FOR CHILDREN      OVERGROUND 06   7"
POWER OF DREAMS NEVER BEEN TO TEXAS     POLYDOR 7"
PRAYERS SISTER GOODBYE  EGG 1   7"
PRIMITIVES      SPELLS  RCA     7"
PRIMITIVES      WAY BEHIND ME   RCA     7"
RAW HERBS       SHE'S A NURSE   MEDIUM COOL 03  7"
RAZORCUTS       BIG PINK CAKE   SUBWAY 05       7"
RAZORCUTS       SOMETIMES I WORRY ABOUT YOU     CAFF 10 7"
RED LETTER DAY  HIBERNATION     MARSH-MARIGOLD 03       7"
RED SLEEPING BEAUTY/ BENITO             GRIMSEY01       7"
ROPERS  I DON'T MIND    SLUMBERLAND38   7"
SERVANTS        SHE'S ALWAYS HIDING     HEAD 1  7"
SHOP ASSISTANTS HERE IT COMES   AVALANCHE 1     7"
SIDDELEYS       WHAT WENT WRONG THIS TIME       MEDIUM COOL 05  7"
SMALL FACTORY   LOSE YOUR WAY   SLUMBERLAND 026 7"
SMALL FACTORY   SUGGESTIONS     COLLISION TIME  7"
SMALL FACTORY   WHAT TO WANT    SLUMBERLAND 013 7"
SOUP DRAGONS    THE SUN IN THE SKY EP   SUBWAY 02       7"
SOUP DRAGONS    WHOLE WIDE WORLD        SUBWAY 04       7"
SPIRITUALIZED   SMILE/SWAY      DEDICATED 3     7"
STEREOLAB       DOUBT/CHANGER   DUPHONIC SUPER 45'S     7"
STONE ROSES     ELEPHANT STONE  SILVERTONE      7"
STONE ROSES     WHAT THE WORLD IS WAITING FOR   SILVERTONE      7"
SWINGS & ROUNDABOUTS EP RILEYS/ACID HOUSE KINGS/HOME & ABROAD   SOMERSAULT      
"
TEENAGE FANCLUB EVERYBODY'S FOOL        MATADOR 7"
TELEVISION PERSONALITIES        PRETTIEST GIRL IN THE WORLD     OVERGROUND 15   
"
THAT PETROL EMOTION     GENIUS MOVE     VIRGIN  7"
TIGER TRAP/HENRY'S DRESS        ASTRONAUTICAL MUSIC FESTIVAL    SLUMBERLAND 033 
"
TREE FORT ANGST BUZZING WITH BEAUTY & WONDER    VELODROME       7"
TREE FORT ANGST TILTING AT WINDMILLS    BUS STOP 039    7"
VELOCITY GIRL   MY FORGOTTEN FAVOURITE  SLUMBERLAND 010 7"
VELVET CRUSH    SOUL CRUSHER EP SUMMERSHINE 09  7"
WEATHER PROPHETS        ALMOST PRAYED   CRE 029 dbl 7"
WEATHER PROPHETS        ALMOST PRAYED   CRE 029 7"
WEATHER PROPHETS        ALWAYS THE LIGHT        CRE 056 7"
WHITE TOWN      ALAIN DELON EP  PARASOL 8       7"
WHITE TOWN      ALL SHE SAID    PARASOL 4       7"
WHITE TOWN      WHITE TOWN      SATYA 1 7"
WHORL   MAYBE IT'S BETTER       SLUMBERLAND 011 7"
VELOCITY GIRL/TSUNAMI   CHRISTMAS SPLIT SIMPLE MACHINES 7"
McCARTHY/A HOUSE        SOUNDS MACHINE SAMPLER  SOUNDS  7"
TWO FOR THE PRICE OF ONE FANZINE/EP             W.MIST/S.SET    7"
CUDGELS/DUFFLECOATS/KIND                WAAAAH  7"
STRAWBERRY STORY/DALEK BEACH PARTY/KIND         WAAAAH  7"
HAPPY HOLIDAYS EP       GOTW/W.TOWN/3HTOUR/CB&SG        PARASOL 7"
PALESAINTS/FRENTE/JPS EXPERIENCE/J HATFIELD SPLIT               WHITE   7"
 --------------------------------------------------------------------
   |\/\/\/|     Dave Harris : season@werple.net.au
   |      |     Season : Flat 3, 41 Shelley St, Elwood, 3184
   |      |              Victoria, Australia.
   | (o)(o)     Ph/Fax : 61 3 9 531 5049
   C      _)    P.S "this is an interesting signature" (smiley face)
    | ,___|
    |   /
   /____\
  /      \
 --------------------------------------------------------------------


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:55:27 -0800
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: mbv new ep??


> Re: mbv new ep??
>
> On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, lushmuse wrote:
>
> hey!
>
> i heard that my bloody valentine have 3 new tracks and is going to be
> on a wax trax compilation...or is this old news or is this real? can
> anyone verify this?

hey yourself!

something similar, if not identical, was reported in the british music
press some time ago, maybe even last year. the only other detail i can
remember is that is pretty much kevin shields working on his own.

kevin's contributions to the e.a.r. project (that sonic boom side project
thing, kevin was meant to contribute to the first lp but didn't get it
done in time) will be available shortly too, this according to a note
from the droneon list which i've since deleted, sorry.

--
andyx (a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 02:38:55 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: lots of little things that add up to nothing


On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, goo goo goo joob wrote:

> no! don't stop!

hehehehehe...

> what exactly is the 'scan-indie' list?

Scandinavian indie whatever. A lot of bands that probably sound goofier
than KUKL ever did...or maybe not. I am on the list hoping for the odd
bit of info re Stina Nordenstam. So far the search has turned up little
save a little bit on a band she has collab'd with, or will do so, or
something...

Also for some reason Frank Black keeps turning up on that list. I guess
he has to hide somewhere.

> i understand and somewhat agree with the mazzy comparison
> but imo if nothing else, the production on rhp songs is much harsher.

Mazzy are very hallucinatory and erotic and not so emotional or personal.
Their music has an epic quality to it, even when it is claustrophobic and
the sort of thing that belongs in a nice billiards joint. RHP, even at
their best, has to do with whining and obsession. There is a lot of self
loathing and cynicism and hopelessness running through. None of these
defining factors show their face on Ask Me Tomorrow. Mojave may inhabit
some of the same territory as The Jesus and Mary Chain or Simon Bonney,
but to group them with anyone, or even tie them too closely to Slowdive,
is, yes, a little lazy. Too much is new about it: the guitar style, all
the ghosts floating through the background, the stylish combination of
the laid back percussion, dispassionate strumming and impressionistic
piano (which could be credited to the mix, perhaps). But most importantly
Neil and Rachel have made the most of the unique qualities of their voices
and filled up the entire album with sounds you could never find
elsewhere, however hard anyone might try.

> may be a few exceptions but the first thing that comes to my head after
> thinking 'rhp' is the cacophony of noise on 'mother,' which is just a
> little different from mellow acoustic strumming.

Well you can hardly blame the rest of us for never making it all the way
through the song. :)

> lushmuse sez:

Nothing, but reminded me of the new Lush logo and art. I laughed my ass
off when I sawr em, and in a good way too.  The logo is just loveable
loveable wonderful. I guess some of us just have less class than others?

And I like the plumeage thing. And I do know what a fucking lyric is,
thanks.

> as complete songworks, 'souvlaki' is their best release so far. 'pygmalion'
> can test your remote control trigger finger patience sometimes (and is a
> completely different beast from what i'm offering above...i don't think one
> can compare slowdive's earlier output to 'pygmalion,' if you want to debate
> that email me privately),

No, let's debate it here. :) What are you talking about? Eh? Eh? ::frown::

And Oasis just plain suck shit except for Columbia. Sorry! (Noel should
sing, for starters.)


 einexile (who digs the chem bros)


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 06:17:56 -0500
From: Hement Gopal (090GOPAL@UWCC.CC.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: digest this!!


hiya ppl

e was right bout them digest jobbies...lost they are!!

the earliest one that the listserv has is sept 1995!!

bummer!!!

oh well, we can't always have what we want

chow
hemsy

PS :presently humming : BEE GEES - STAYING ALIVE ;)

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:41:01 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Black Core and other stuff.

              Stephen Roy" at Jan 21, 96 01:54:09 am

Darryl Stephen Roy  wrote:
>
> I'm still enamored with Seefeel and Scorn ("Gyral" sounds more like the
> quintescence of abyssal introspective depression, as opposed to fey angst
> or moping, with every listen), and have seen a Sub Rosa comp which I
> think is entitled "Soft Lights and the Black Core", with Seefeel, Scorn,
> Timothy Leary, and someone else whose name escapes me.  Is this
> detrititus, or worthwhile efforts by the artists in question?

"Ancient Lights and the Blackcore".  The Scorn track is eleven minutes
long and fairly good, though I'm not wild about Scorn anyway, and then
there are three Seefeel tracks totalling ten minutes, none very good
but not awful either.  The second half consists of a recording of South
American Shamans by David Toop, which is not something I'd want to
listen to twice, and then the old fraud Timothy Leary babbling nonsense
(as usual) over some ambient house.

Talking of David Toop, his book "Ocean of Sound" and the accompanying
double CD are out now - the book is a bit waffly, the CD is intriguing,
in a way it's part 5 of Virgin's "Brief History of Ambient" series.
It's a very eclectic collection - Debussy, Satie, the Velvet
Underground, recordings of seals and traffic noise, Miles Davis, Herbie
Hancock, the usual Virgin Ambient suspects (Eno, Budd, Hassell,
Czukay), bits of World Music and Buddhist ceremonies, My Bloody
Valentine.  All fits together remarkably well, considering the
disparate styles, though I wish he hadn't faded all the tracks into one
continuous mix, and "I Heard Her Call My Name" isn't the VU track I'd
have chosen to illustrate LaMonte Young's influence on the band.  And
those Yanomani Shamen are back again, though the recording on this
collection is mercifully short.


write your name in the wetness  wrote:
 >
 > Oh, what joy a Food list would be! We could talk about Blur and
 > er, Jesus Jones...

Crazyhead (where are they now?  Probably have jobs behind the bar at the
Pump and Tap).

 >
 > Somewhat interesting article in the latest Guitar Player (?)
 > about the stupidly named and possibly not at all existent
 > "post-rock" phenomenon,. The angle is basically "Do you [meaning
 > yer average rock guitar dude] have anything to fear from bands
 > with names like Tortoise, Laika and Pram?" (Answer: since they
 > play funny-looking axes and none of them can play like Stevie
 > Ray, no).

But I hear Pram have been taking lessons from Steve Vai, so watch out
for plenty of rockin' action on their next release.

 > It also traces the origin of the genre's name: Simon Reynolds
 > had to combine three articles about Laika, Scorn and God into
 > one and invent a scene, otherwise it wouldn't get published. So
 > that's how these things get started...

There was a long, intermittently interesting, article about "post-rock"
by Reynolds in a recent issue of The Wire - a magazine I have now taken
to flicking through in newsagents rather than buying, since the
reviewer of the two recent Cocteaus EPs failed to notice that the songs
she particularly liked were not new, and that the reason for the second
EP's flirtation with ambient techno was that it was entirely remixed by
Mark Clifford.  And they tried to hype Stereolab as a hot new band a few
months ago, too - "enigmatic", because they don't put photos of
themselves on their sleeves, which suggests that the author hadn't
picked up a copy of any other music mag, or even the Guardian, for the
last two years.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 22/01/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/NORMAN.HTM
Pulp - Intro


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 06:55:25 -0500
From: The Sid James Experience (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: musings on slowdive lyrics


>>>love songs on the radio
>>>        your sweetheart lies in bed
>>>        she's dreaming of the things you said
>>>        she's hoping that it's meant
>>>
>>>I don't mean to nitpick, but the lyric contains such a glaring
>>>grammamtical error that I am inclined to think it means something fairly
>>>clever.
>>
>>What grammatical error would that be, then? There's nothing wrong there.
>
>i think you're kidding, but the lyric should read, "she's hoping that they're
>meant."

I'm not kidding, but I didn't see that one at all. It should be "they're"
because of "things", you mean? That's true, but hardly a glaring error.
Besides, it doesn't infer anything different whether it says "it's" or
"they're" - it's comprehensible either way.

e, is this what you were referring to?


>>"watch the spring in all it's [sic] plumage"
>>
>>The glaring error of punctuation aside, something makes me want to shout
>>"only birds have plumage!" at the stereo. Surely Neil meant "foliage", or am
>>I being nitpicky? It just sounds odd.
>
>"Foliage" wouldn't fit as well.  Aside from that, if one were to compare a
>spring scene with a bird, then the green leaves could be analogous to its
>feathers.  I dunno, but I personally think it's a nice analogy.

I guess it's a metaphor then. And "foliage" wouldn't quite scan, on second
thought.

>Good God, what is this now, a poetry class?  :)

Yes. Sit down, you're late. Where's your assignment from last week?

Larry


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:19:00 +0000
From: Nick Hill (NHill@MSMAIL.CSL.GPT.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: V23 exhibition, who's planning to go


Yes I will be.

Nick Hill
 ----------
From: 4ad recording artists list
Subject: V23 exhibition, who's planning to go?

Date: 20 January 1996 01:32 Hi, V23 has an exhibition in Newcastle-Upon-Tyne at University Gallery 24th february to 29th March. Has anybody (besides me) plans to visit the exhibition? Cheers, Huite

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 13:43:33 +0000
From: Jaax Lawson (jaax@ARIA3.LYON.ARCHI.FR)
Subject: Re: Lush Demo/rare stuff for trade/ sorry in advance


>they don't have PLEASE EMAIL ME!!!!
>
>BTW is the new Lush single out yet? Can't find them in the SD area.
>
>                                            Brian

yeah it's out since 8th january in the uk...
 but i'm in france ,so I'm as desperate as you are cos' I'll have to wait
,and wait ,and wait ....=(
anyway I can't help you ,but your videos ...
  Jaax

KILINC  Mustafa  kilinc@aria3.eal.fr
******************************

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:13:35 -0500
From: Alan Grigg (alan@minster.cs.york.ac.uk)
Subject: shelleyan orphan


Does anyone have a copy of SHELLEYAN ORPHAN - HELLEBORINE on CD for sale (or kno
 where I can get hold of a new copy - I've tried loads of mail order places etc 
ut without success)? I think it was released on CD for a short while on Rough Tr
de.
Alan Grigg (alan@minster.york.ac.uk)


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:30:39 -0500
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Re. Baraka and DCD


I've got a copy of the video which is widescreen format (letterbox, not pan
and scan). I didn't find it difficult to get hold of over here in L'il ol'
England - in fact I wasn't even looking for it and just happened to see
multiple copies sitting in an HMV or Virgin Megastore in that massive
shopping centre (sorry, mall) in Sheffield. It'll be the wrong format (as
in PAL, NTSC or whatever) for most other countries I would assume. Can
anyone shed light on these formats and their different countries' use of
them? I ordered LIAE from 4AD mail order and got NTSC which doesn't seem to
agree with either of my VCRs...

>although there are only two DCD tracks in it, they fit the imagery
>like a glove, and the rest of the score is fantastic as well.

There is only one DCD track in the film's score isn't there? (I can't be
bothered to run through it again.) My video does have a "bonus" music video
of Yulunga which is basically like a trailer for the film in that it's just
a load of clips from the film put together.

Does anyone else have that funny little promo CD of Dead Can Dance's (cat
no DCD1) with the monkey from Baraka on the cover? It has The Host of
Seraphim and Yulunga (Spirit Dance) on it (the former is the track used in
the film). I thought it was an odd promo when I found it - I'd never heard
of it before, and haven't since (it is on 4AD).

I found the film exceptionally inspiring visually. When I first watched it
it provoked a miriad of ideas for my own work (I'm a photographer), which I
was in two minds as to whether to write down whilst I was watching. I
didn't because I wanted to concentrate on the film and thought that the
same ideas would be jolted when I watched it a second time. They weren't.
Bummer.

I would really recommend that if anyone has a chance to see the film in a
cinema (theatre?) that they should go and do it. It's much better that way
- the quality is amazing since it was shot on 70mm film.

BTW, don't be dissapointed with the first 20 minutes or so of the film. I
was getting a bit bored, waiting for the DCD track to come on, but then it
really gets going and is literally awesome.

Andie

Ps. I fucking love Wonderwall and all the rest of (What's the Story)
Morning Glory. I especially love Wonderwall for the cello. And I love the
way they sing like they "couldn't give a shit" as someone said to me. It's
so Northern England it's funny and in a perverse,contrary inverted manner
is quite beautiful. I love people who can make the ugly beautiful - Joel
Peter Witkin, Vaughan Oliver, Simon Larbalestier, Jenny Saville etc. It's
so much more creative and skillful.


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 04:29:32 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: BB Shop... / Nefilim / Rubicon


Allow me to pose a number of questions:

1. Thanks for all the info on music shops in London. But I'll have one more bash
at locating the Beggars Banquet shop. A while back somebody did a posting
on this shop saying it was mostly a BB shop with a whole 4AD section. Appears to
be
the place to pick up limited editions, deletions and the like. Seems it could be
on
the Putney Bridge Road off the Putney Bridge Tube Station.  Anyone have the
exact address?

2. Anyone have any info on the supposed new Nefilim (not  Nephilim)
lp? There was supposed to be a single in December? and an LP in the
new year (which has gone).

3. What's the name of the new Rubicon LP?

Correct answers to all three questions entitles the sender to a pint of guiness
at my local pub.  (Air Ticket and accomodation not included).

Chris,
Who is off any second now to said local pub to knock back *A FEW*.......

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:42:58 +0000
From: Jon Kvebaek (ceejok@CEE.HW.AC.UK)
Subject: Tarnation (was: Re: musings on slowdive lyrics)


einexile the meek wrote:

> And a wee bit of 4AD news. (Is this old?) Tarnation supposedly bailed.

Not so much bailed as dropped a few members (everyone except Paula?) and
obtained a few new ones. At least that's what I've heard...

--
Jon Kvebaek 

Teleport and exteriorization equipment can be constructed by any boy
mechanic in his basement workshop. References are 'Collected Works of
Willam Reich', 'Journeys Out of the Body' by Robert A. Monroe.
                             - William S. Burroughs, "Port of Saints"


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:38:54 EDT
From: Christopher A Michaels/Instnl/VGI
Subject: Lisa Gerrard live!


For anyone living near Philadelphia, PA USA:
 Lisa Gerrard (Mirror Pool) will play live on
radio station WXPN 88.5 fm on Tuesday Jan 23rd during a
show called 'Echoes' (between 11pm-1am).
For everyone else:
I will attempt to make a tape of the show.  If I do, I'll notify the
list, and I'll be glad to send copies to those interested!

Cheers!
Christopher
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:45:16 -0600
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Snow, Cocteau, Snow, Box


Why order it by itself?  It was free with Otherness.

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:46:44 PST
From: "Martin A. HOYT" (MAHOYT@UCI.EDU)
Subject: 1995 poll question/suggestion


Pondering the "best album on 4AD ever" category, it occured to me that quite
a few of my favorite 4AD releases are EPs.  I am guessing that an EP doesn't
qualify as an album.  Maybe the category should be "best release on 4AD
ever"?

Oh well, It is probably too late now...

Martin
mahoyt@uci.edu

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:02:53 -0500
From: Hershal Shevade (hman@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: bros. quay


For those of you in the Washington, DC area, the National Gallery of Art
will be featuring several of their films at a screening next Saturday [27
january] at 2:30pm in the NGA auditorium.

hershal


On Sat, 20 Jan 1996, Susan Curran wrote:

> In addition to the two His Name is Alive videos, the Brothers Quay have two
> compilations of their short, animated works (Volumes 1 & 2, respectively)
> which include Street of Crocodiles, Cabinets of Jan Svankmeyer, etc. They also
> did a tiny snippet of a Peter Gabriel video (Sledgehammer?) Both volumes are
> available at indie video-rental shops, generally filed under experimental or
> contemporary animation.
>
> They've just come out with their first full-length, non-animated (but still
> quite surreal) film called Institute Benjamenta. Apologies if the title is
> slightly off - I haven't seen it yet.
>
> If you like the Brothers Quay, you may also want to check out Jan Svankmeyer
> and Maya Deren, whose "Meshes of the Afternoon" inspired the Pram song.
>
>
>    -Susan
>


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:26:00 GMT
From: Paul Rankine (Paul.Rankine@MAIL.SEMA.CO.UK)
Subject: V23 thing in Newcastle


ABout this V23 thingy up in Newcastle ( Im assuming upon Tyne)
Any other noters planning to go ??  Meet for a few beers - its famous for
having a few bevvies is Newcastle - local phrasebook recommended - how the
f**k could a toilet become a nettie ??, still NUFC are doing well, so the
locals are happy.

Share a car to go up there ??  Ive got a spare room if any southern UK
noters want to split the journey by staying o/night in the Midlands.

Cheers

Paul


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:45:05 -0800
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: noise and charnel things


>  would a fellow noise addict be so kind as to point me in the
>  direction of a current charnel music catalog?

        Charnel House has a web page (i don't know the url offhand, but a
netscape search oughtta give it to you).  I don't know how current they
have kept it but they did have Crash Worship soundclips prior to the album
coming out.  If they didn't have a current catalogue, i'd be surprised.

Hope this helps,
cz

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:23:21 -0800
From: Joel Krueger (jwkrueger@UCDAVIS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Snow, Cocteau, Snow, Box


On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Michael R. M. Cheselka wrote:

> Why order it by itself?  It was free with Otherness.
>
I don't think they're doing that anymore.  I was told that they're
selling them separately - it might have just been a Christmas thing.
I didn't care because I already have Otherness,...

Joel
jwkrueger@ucdavis.edu


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:37:17 -0500
From: Sargent David Edward (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: and another thing


so, like, hey, what's the scoop on Cest' la Mort? i've recently
                             h f
been taken with buying everything i can find on that label
                             e i
in every used record store east of the western hemisphere. last
                             l r
i heard, they moved to mississippi or somethin'.
                             l e
ok, so this is slightly out of date and not at all thislisty.
                               !
megasnaps from dave "queen of clubs" sargent (desarg@mail.wm.edu)

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:50:33 -0700
From: sean devine (kober@GAS.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: His Name is Alive, ugh.


> on the contrary, it has a
> hermetically-sealed glassy smoothness to it -- all little lines of melody
> that repeat over and over, and breathy soprano vocals that are absolutely
> inflectionless and sound as though they're reciting some kind of dull
> voice lesson -- that I would characterize as "claustrophobic" or
> "suffocating".
> __________
> Jens Alfke

*This describes exactly why I like HNIA, and in particular Livonia. Thank
you for such a clear definition of that album. :)
        -sean Devine
                livonia franklin high school 1991


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:10:15 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: LIAE video formats


As we seem to rehash every so often, the Lonely Is An Eyesore
video is available in BOTH PAL and NTSC formats. It's
probably even still available in both formats, unless the
4AD catalogue says otherwise. I own an NTSC, non-bootleg
copy.

The 13 Year Itch video was also available in both formats,
although there were far more PAL than NTSC.

The AVAM video, I am almost certain was, again, available
in both formats, but for obvious reasons there were far more
NTSC than PAL copies. A call to 4AD would clear this up.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:03:39 -0600
From: Salome (lnvoigt@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: in search of a Blue Day


Greetings all, I wish to pester you today not with intriguing 4ADish
information or other merry musical banter but rather with a request.  I
would very much like to purchase, boldly put for those skimming the list:

            b l u e   d a y      - -     s l o w d i v e

So if any one of you has a spare or with your many connections and secret
shopping spots could locate this little darling for me, I would gleefully
trade or toss a bit of cash your direction.  Thanks ever so much.

Farewell ~
Lisa

-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

 -- we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars --

                             Oscar Wilde
________________________________________________________________________

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:48:10 CST
From: Larry Harbin (LHARBIN@UA1VM.UA.EDU)
Subject: Michael Brooks and U. Srinivas


Hi,

Someone asked earlier about the Michael Brooks collaborative effort with an
Indian musician.  I believe this is the U. Srinivas and Brooks CD entitled
_Dream_.  I have not heard this, but I am somewhat familiar with Srinivas
and his solo efforts.  He plays mandolin in the southern Indian tradition,
Carnatic or Karnatic, and I have found his work to be excellent, if you enjoy
traditional Indian ragas.  I think any collaboration with Brooks should prove
interesting and I'm on the lookout for this CD.

Hope this was of some help.

Larry Harbin
UA Libraries

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:30:06 -0500
From: Sargent David Edward (desarg@MAIL.WM.EDU)
Subject: free sects


they say that "free" is the most powerful word in the
 english language.
  alas, i am actually going to perpetuate the use of the
   list as my private little market.;)
    the two kings of sweet that i had are pretty much sold,
     but here is what else i have:
      Laika-Silver Apples of the Moon-Domestic Version $7.11
       i'm sorry, but i just couldn't get into the breathy vox
        My Bloody Valentine-Feed Me with your Kiss+3-
         CRE SCD 061 $6.09
        flying saucer attack-vhf#11-$7.89 just a bit too
       much abstractnesssssssss for me
      and finally, since everyone is talking about Baraka, if
     you call today, you too can experience the lushness of said
    soundtrack for the low, low price of $eight(ocho,otto,ate)
   it's on Milan records. speaking of movies, and since i haven't
  been on the list for a while, was there any discussion of the film
 Najda? or how 'bout Amateur? goddamed beautiful score on that one.
i'm not sure if anyone is still keeping track, but here are the KoS
 numba's that i'm about to sell: 0401 and 1561.
  this incoherent message brought to you by:
   Dave (desarg@mail.wm.edu) Presley

*------------IIIIIIII

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:50:13 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Softlights and the Black Core...


"Ancient Lights and the Blackcore" was pretty dull IMHO. The Scorn track
was decent if not memorable -- I have a feeling it's a very heavily
remixed version of an album track -- and the Seefeel stuff was a bunch of
pointless Casiotone twangings, even more sterile than "Succour". The
Yanomami shamen were uninteresting -- I was glad it was audio-only so I
didn't have to see them blowing hallucinogenic powders up each other's
nostrils or later vomiting as a result of same, but unfortunately the
booklet does give vivid descriptions of such. And Timothy Leary was lame,
a tepid ripoff of Terrence McKenna's earlier and already damn lame
attempt at druggie-rambling-over-ambient-techno.

Avoid.

__________
Jens Alfke  __________________
            jens@mooseyard.com
                          ________________________________________
                          He wants a shoehorn, the kind with teeth
                         'Cause he knows there's no such thing.


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:44:31 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Re: LIAE / VHS formats


>Can
>anyone shed light on these formats and their different countries' use of
>them? I ordered LIAE from 4AD mail order and got NTSC which doesn't seem to
>agree with either of my VCRs...

NTSC  -> USA
PAL   -> Europe (except France and some others "little" countries)
SECAM -> France and some others "little" countries...

Pal and Secam are quite near, if you put a PAL VHS in a only SECAM player, i=
t
will be in black and white (easy for Brothers Quay's HNIA videos!)
(same for a SECAM in a PAL player).

But NTSC is totally different, and you have to find:
- A NTSC player (rare in Europe)
- and a TV which support 60 Hz (and not 50 Hz!) for NTSC.
Usually only big TVs (70 cm large... NICAM sound...) are NTSC compatible.

LIAE should be in PAL cos it's an UK released! (mine is PAL)
AVAM compilation is only NTSC -> compiled for american market.

Got to same pb to view AVAM. The only transcoder NTSC/PAL are professionnal.

If you find one, it may take =A310 or =A315 to convert the format!

Hope it helps!

                          ___
Laurent Lapierre         |-,-|                       On the pick up now:

lapierre@micronet.fr     | - |    Mojave 3 _Black Session Live in Paris_

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:51:53 -0800
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: noise and charnel things


>         Charnel House has a web page (i don't know the url offhand, but a
> netscape search oughtta give it to you).  I don't know how current they
> have kept it but they did have Crash Worship soundclips prior to the album
> coming out.  If they didn't have a current catalogue, i'd be surprised.

I checked the web page today - the catalog (unless I didn't find the
right one...) was out of date.  The 'Trance' CD was listed as a
'forthcoming release'.

What's Cock ESP?  Seeing as Princess Dragon Mom was released on GROSS,
and a new Aube release on GROSS is supposed to be a collaboration with this
Cock ESP thing...

Mike

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:39:16 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: good shows in the next week


There are two shows that are well worth seeing this week:

Monday 1/22
  The Sugarplastic and Electric Company at Spaceland.
  It's a free show, but I don't know when it starts.
  Probably the usual 9pm, and these two probably go
  on later. IT'S FREE! How could you NOT lose? Plus
  more people HAVE to get into The Sugarplastic.
  Think XTC. A lot of it. I don't have anything to do with
  the band, I'm just a big fan.

Saturday 1/27
  The Sugarplastic again at Spaceland, 11pm. $5 before 10:30;
  $10 after. I'm going to both shows.

Spaceland
1717 Silverlake Blvd, next to the 7-11.
21 and over, call 213-413-4442 for more info.

Sugarplastic info 310-837-5865

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:26:00 GMT
From: Paul Rankine (Paul.Rankine@MAIL.SEMA.CO.UK)
Subject: Re : Thislisty shops in London


I usually head for Berwick Street - someone mentioned this but forgot the
name of the street.  There are a few shops along here - the one down the
bottom next to the fruit market ( Is it Sister Rays ??) is very good for
ambient stuff.  On the same side half way up the street is another (name
escapes me - sorry) lots of US and Japanese imports good 2nd hand choice too
 - then at the top of the Street is Selectadisc, which IMHO is one of the
better ones.

Funny someone recommended ROugh Trade in Neals Yard, as it was they who went
'ooh if you want that stuff, youll need to go to Berwick St ' !!.  Is there
a Beggars Banquet in Kingston that supposed to be good - dont know meself,
cos Im up in the provinces !! - Selectadisc in Nottingham is good.

Cheers

Paul

ps  COuld Xtine please tell me how she resolved her getting Heavenly Voices
Part 3 problem ?  Im after this also, but drawing blanks at the moment.  Ta
in advance..


Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 12:16:18 -0500
From: Adam J Weitzman (weitzman@INDIVIDUAL.COM)
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses : New Album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>         They signed to Rykodisc as their distributor in the U.S., since
> Sire dropped them (idiots), because of _University_ not selling a certain
> amount.

Actually, as I understand it, this provision in the contract was put in there
by Throwing Muses themselves, so that they would have an "out" if they felt
that WB wasn't promoting the album enough, due to the myriad changes in WB
management in the past year or two and the danger of _University_ "falling
through the cracks."  The promotion didn't happen, it didn't sell, TM left,
and Sire doesn't even exist anymore.

--
Adam J Weitzman ----- Individual, Inc. ----- weitzman@individual.com
"I love the music of the 20th century!" - Bruce Willis, "12 Monkeys"

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:06:51 +0100
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses : New Album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>>> I haven't heard anything about the new TM album, but I the last I heard
>they had founded their own label "Throwing Music" under Rykodisc.  The KH
>"Holy Single" was the first release for Throwing Music.  I have no clue
>about what their relationship with 4ad is anymore. <<
>
>        They signed to Rykodisc as their distributor in the U.S., since
>Sire dropped them (idiots), because of _University_ not selling a certain
>amount. As far as I know, they're still on 4AD, but that could change at
>any moment. Possible scenario:
>        ivo: "Dammit, Kristin's way too brilliant for this label! I require
>        a certain quotient of mediocrity, and she's ruining it! Throw her off!"
>        flunkie: "Uh... yessir."
>

Bhahaha. It sure looks like it...
No, this is how it's done:

4AD(UK) does releasing and distribution for UK and Europe.
Throwing Music does releasing and Rykodisc distributing in the USA.
Who's doing the rest of the world, I'm not sure.

Cheers,

Huite

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 01:09:53 +0100
From: snailhead (Guy.Vandekerckhove@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: Re: Is Kristin Hersh the best songwriter in the world? (fwd)


Hi I've got this message from a bloke who wants to start up a=20
Throwing Muses - Belly fanclub or something.
He asked me to inform other people,so I forwarded this to these
mailinglists.
bye,
 __________________________________________________________________________=
___
   :
   :
   :
   :


---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 17:08:51 +0100
From: Thomas Ellingsen (jtelling@sn.no)
Subject: Re: Is Kristin Hersh the best songwriter in the world?




Yes,indeed, Guy. The Muses do rule.
And since you=B4ve mentioned it, I would like to ask you to be in a commite=
e
led by myself in order to launch a Belly/Muses fan-club. I really do hope
you like Belly too. Anyway, you=B4re still welcome. The plan is that we sha=
ll
open a Belly/Throwing Muses Home Page on the Net. but before that we need
member. It will be awesome. At last, the Belly/Muses fan can get together
in one happy family,=B4cause where I live (Norway) noone=B4s ever heard of
either of the bands.
There will be plenty of room for discussion! Considering myself a guru at
these bands, I will have the ultimate control, and be the natural chief of
the tribe.
(My reign will be of a friendly character).
        You can also write to Christine, who will be The deputy Chief,
since she was the second member. Reply quickly, and you may get the chance
of becoming The Secretary of the Tribe.

PLEASE TELL OTHER INTERESTED PEOPLE TO JOIN MY FAN-CLUB!





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Thomas Ellingsen            For those about to rock, we salute you!
Dalhaugane 19
5062 B=F8nes, Norway
Don=B4t believe the Hype
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