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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 17:19:58 -0800
Sounds great. I would also like to see "Best/Worst NON-4AD ..."
categories; appropriate since we talk about a lot of non-4AD stuff, and
there is a contingent here who feel that 4AD didn't release any of the
top _____ of the year in 1995.
And a reminder to everyone: Please send votes directly to Creig
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 19:27:54 -0800
>1995 4AD POLL
>
>A number of people have mentioned doing this, but nobody's come forward. I
>don't mind giving it a shot.
YAY! Hey, thanks for volunteering.
So there's one question left. Are we just submitting one vote in
each category OR as in years past are we splitting up 10 points among
artists as we please? The ten point method is more work for the compiler
but somehow more satisfying and more fair to the artists. I'm sure there's
an automated method that Lars used in order to compile the responses.
Though it's got nothing to do with the year of 1995, a category
that i particularly liked was "best album on 4AD--ever" because you can
see how different albums stand the test of time in the collective
consciousness.
-cz
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 09:31:22 PST
[email protected] wrote:
>>Does anyone know if the US Warner version has that track (I believe it's
>>"The Last Waltz") or if it's only on the UK 4AD version?
>>
>>Thankya much,
>>Jake
>
>Don't know if the US version has the last track, but at least I've heard
>that the US version has less samples on many tracks...
I originally purchased the U.S. MbM release, and then later picked up the
U.K. version by mail order. There weren't as many differences as I had
expected. Other than "The Homesick Waltz", there is a sample of someone
crying on the phone saying something about being taken to an insane asylum
(after "Jack Rabbits"), and the quiet piano and voice track between "Torso"
and "The Dirteaters" is longer. I am I missing anything? Most of the tracks
don't seem to have additional samples, and the mix sounds the same.
Martin
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 12:53:20 -0800
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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 00:21:05 -0500
>
>could someone please send me the record collector's phone # and e-mail? i
>need to get ahold of darin.
>
>thanks,
>
>BiZ
they can be faxed at 810.473.9321, their e-mail address
([email protected]) hasn't been working...
and the guy you need to talk to is Davin, not Darin.
-blue
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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 01:04:15 -0500
Thanks to everyone who offered advice on how to get a copy of HV III.
I found my solution, so no more suggestions needed. I guess you Americans
aren't so bad after all! [do i smell something burning?...] ;)
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 23:23:42 -0800
Listen this'll be my first and last post of this kind but.....
I am desperatly searching for the 88 lush demo or anything rare of
lush. I have to trade:
A live show on Video tape with all the videos up till "Superblast!"
"Show us your tits" 94 show
"Kalidecopic Harmonies" 92 Show
"Black Session" 94 radio show
and a show they did at the Metro in '94
If anyone sees something they would like to trade for and has something
they don't have PLEASE EMAIL ME!!!!
BTW is the new Lush single out yet? Can't find them in the SD area.
Brian
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 13:21:08 -0400
I debated whether replying to this publicly, but I figures since
Robin Guthrie was a member of MacBeth, in addition to Gordon's obvious 4AD
past ties, that the whole thing may be of public interest.
MacBeth are still, in theory, functioning. Although I speak with
Gordon almost daily, he's never really mentioned any firm plans with them,
although in the latest press info he sent me for inclusion in the press
kit, he does mention that "releases from the acoustic front [macbeth] as
well as the techno front [bambule] are forthcoming." and I DO know that
there is a double 12" coming out by Bambule, so maybe he does have some
plans to release MacBeth material.
In terms of Paraphernalia, it is all currently in the production
stages. I can't tell by your address where you are from, but if you are
planning on going to a show here in the US, then you will be able to buy
T-Shirts and Posters, as well as the new re-issues of the CDs at the shows.
If you are unable to attend, we plan on keeping these items available
through mail order after the shows. Whether that will be through us here at
Involved or through Gordon and Touched Recordings directly remains to be
decided.
The rest I, believe, I will answe privately...
Thanks!
Rick
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 00:00:02 -0500
hk wrote
>You could call 310-555-1212 and ask Information. And it is indeed called
>the Record Collector. A cozy little shop, really. Anyhow, either that, or
>you can send them a fax (the number's on the ESP Summer 10" sleeve). And I
>presume you mean Davin?
>
Just curious...
I talked to ~windy at Aquarius Records today who told me that "THE" Windy (of
Windy & Carl) fame works at Time Stereo's record store in Livonia!
Does anyone know if this is true?
W&C is an absolutely sensational band - and I'm still desperately seeking two
of their four (?) 7"s... ~windy suggested that I check directly with...uh...
Windy.
What's with this concentration of great music in Michigan?!
I mean, the budding Detroit Scene (Fuxa, Windy & Carl, Asha Vida, Spectacle
(RIP - now Illuminate), Childrens' Ice Cream, Gravity Wax, etc, etc) is
putting nearly all of the bands on our tiny blue Earth to shame!
Anyone have any explanations for this odd phenomenon? Is it breathing in all
that auto exhaust? :-b
Just wasting yer time, as usual.
GuerillaG
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 22:59:51 -0600
>is this going to be a cd? i knew that they had planned on doing a mono 7"
>release, but i thought that was all perdition was going to release. what's
>the word on that? and is spoonfed hybrid officially dissolved now, or what?
Perdition Plastics had indeed planned on doing a wire-recorder mono 7" at
one time, but I think Kurt may have abandoned that idea (a pity) in order to
put all his energies into doing a CD (which is pretty cool anyway). Anyhow,
the last time I talked to anyone about it, I was told that Perdition
Plastics will be doing the CD.
BTW, the sleeve for the ESP Continent CD was done by the same chap who did
the Spoonfed 7" sleeve. I have yet to see the CD artwork, but judging by
the work Michael's done on the 7", I'm sure it's gonna be boss.
And speaking of which, Spoonfed Hybrid is alive and well, but on hiatus, as
Chris is busy doing his other band Bear full-time. However, Chris and Ian
did record some new material recently which we're currently working on
releasing in the next couple of months.
Anyway, that's all I've got for today. :)
hk
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 23:45:19 -0500
Has anyone heard either one of these releases, either
Bay's "Alison Rae" or Blueshift Signal's Seven Natural Scenes?
I do like the Blueshift Signal song on the Waking Up Happy
Compilation put out by Bedazzled, and I keep hearing
good things about them. I keep seeing Bay at the HMV but its
$36 so I am tempted to know a little more about them first.
Also dewdrops guys...have you shipped any of Elysium's
"Glisten" to Toronto?? Can you tell me how I might go about
ordering one from you directly if you hadn't planned on shipping it.
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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:23:21 +1100
Hi All,
Dave here from Season - just got a new internet account & signed back on to
the list...what better way to get to know you all than to have a record
sale!!!...
Charm & I have just moved into a new flat & have found that we have too many
doubles of records & not enough space...Charm has decided to off-load all of
her 7"s, except for Sarah 1-10, which she hasn't decided to part with yet.
Charm is a pop-kid from way back so get ready for some wonderful suprises!!!
(Sarah, Palesaints, MBV, Sugargliders, EAWS...)
I'm just punching them all into the 'puter now, so I'll upload the lists
(seperated into General, Aust & NZ, & Sarah) as soon as i'm done.....
Stay tuned....
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Russell
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 06:06:06 +0100
On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, einexile the meek
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 03:37:46 -0500
Hi again (busy tonight!) :)
Steve V. wrote:
>Has anyone heard either one of these releases, either Bay's "Alison Rae"
I wrote about this album a few days after it came out - and it even made my
best-of-95 list. Here's what I thought... anyone who has already seen this
should just ignore it.
(12/29/95)
>Bay - Alison Rae
Slowburn stately Slint/Codeine-like dual guitars put to the service of
beautifuly tearstained Red House Painters songwriting and vocals. An English
duo comprised of Jason Taylor and Aidan Moffat (whose two
less-than-Adonislike mugs are plastered all over the otherwise nice
booklet...) on France's (?) Anoise Annoys label. "Alison-Rae" is actually a
double cd - one disc is 72 minutes of music beautiful enough to chase off the
RHP/Slint withdrawl blues - with a featherlight touch; belated autumnal
elegance - perfect for watching the snow fall ...and fall... and fall... and
fall ...throughout a stormy New England afternoon; The other disc is shorter
(10 tracks, 35m?) and contains all-acoustic tracks, including a Nick Drake
cover ("which will"). Only 3 'crossover' tunes with the first CD! Same
wonderful effect - but with less abrasive crunch.
4AD relevance: Will Heggie (of at least one Cocteau album fame (psst: he
played bass on "Garlands)) reappears here to lend a hand - along with Ross
Ballany and Ronnie Young. The names sound familiar. Does someone have any
clue why they would?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 06:06:25 +0100
On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, [email protected] wrote:
> I assume this is the Berns nightclub in Stockholm. If so, does Swedish TV
> still have "live at Berns"? (They were still showing this when I lived
> there '91/'92). Then some Svensk could verify if it was said Fat Acoustic
> Black Frank Type Person or not.
Indeed, it was the Berns nightclub in Stockholm. Though the 'Live At Berns'
show is no longer with us, unfortunately. I guess that the ZTV tv-channel
have made some kind of segment on the whole thing, but I haven't seen it
(yet).
By the way...
Swedish music business magazine Topp40 had a small note and a picture
today of the "three guys dressed in black wearing sunglasses dancing in
front of desks with a cassette deck on the floor playing Frank Black's
latest single". The promotion thing you know.
And while I'm at it...
Swedish pop-meisters "The Wannadies" will tour with Frank Black on his
UK tour which starts January 29th.
//Erik ([email protected])
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 06:05:37 +0100
On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, lushmuse
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 03:33:09 -0800
On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, Michael R. M. Cheselka wrote:
> Send a mesage with HELP in the body of the email to the listserv.
> Should list the info, or how to get that info.
I recall that when the list moved there was mention that some of the
archive might have been lost. Did we ever find out if this was the case?
a concerned netizen
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 07:07:31 -0500
>Are we just submitting one vote in
>each category OR as in years past are we splitting up 10 >points among
>artists as we please? The ten point method is more work for >the compiler
>but somehow more satisfying and more fair to the artists.
OK...the 10 point method in each category sounds good to me. If you're
reading this before submitting, please take note. I've already gotten 3
responses, so I'll contact those people by personal e-mail (actully one of
them already broke it down that way). Don't worry about the work involved
for me...I love this stuff.
>Though it's got nothing to do with the year of 1995, a >category that i
particularly liked was "best album on >4AD--ever"
That's a good idea too...please add "Best Album on 4AD ever" as category 13,
I believe.
Thanks, everyone!!!
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 09:58:41 -0800
Here's the latest obnoxious reply from the sysadmin who's responsible for
flooding the list with bounced digests these past few days. His rationale
seems to be "it's not my fault that the listserv at american.edu is set
up improperly, and I'm an important sysadmin with lots to do, so it was
only fair that I spam mail to 400 list members who have no idea what's
going on". I've twice tried to make him understand that it would have
been easier to send a single polite message to the list asking how to get
this user unsubscribed, but to no avail. (I also hinted that a competent
sysadmin would understand how a listserv worked.)
If any of you felt annoyed or inconvenienced or confused by those bounced
digests (esp. those who had to pay to download them over a modem) I would
suggest that you drop this bozo a line to explain to him that he made
your day just that much worse. Nothing else but personal mail from each
of the people he inconvenienced is going to teach him a lesson. There are
strong clues in his message that he has added me to his kill file
(stenboy must be laughing right now) so no further ranting by me (and
I've been damn polite too) will have any effect. It's your turn.
too easy to filter.)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 05:11:20 -0800
Lots of other rambling as well. You have been warned.
Does anyone have Pygmalion lyrics? Even some icorrect ones would be nice.
Don't make me look on some web page because I can never connect to any of
them. :)
I have a few questions. Be warned that some if not all of them may
qualify as petty ovaranalyses by an obsessed fan.
First, is this correct?
Into the wad of things
inside your head,
go kill the both of us;
don't bother me.
That's what I hear, and if I'm right I really love this lyric. (I
probably love it if not, as well. How about this?
you say love and it sounds so good
you say alive and it sounds so sweet
I don't know what to think of this except that perhaps they have made
artful use of the no-lyrics-included thing by allowing one statement to
mean two or more things by way of vocals you can't hear properly. :)
While I am knocking on Pygmalion, which is something I do quite often
even though it is my favorite album in eight years, here is some stuff to
think about:
- The only lyrics to Crazy for You seem to be "crazy for love..." which
strikes me as fairly sinister.
- All through J's Heaven, Neil sounds exactly like Doug from The State.
Does Rachel really think the lyrics to Machine Gun are cheezy?
And here is what I really mean to be soliciting opinions on:
love songs on the radio
your sweetheart lies in bed
she's dreaming of the things you said
she's hoping that it's meant
I don't mean to nitpick, but the lyric contains such a glaring
grammamtical error that I am inclined to think it means something fairly
clever. The entire album rings with double meanings and sarcasm and maybe
I should just leave this alone and not ask, but a part of me suspects
that this might be just a dumb mistake. (Plus I like to gab about
Slowdive lyrics.) My inclination is to believe that IT is the sole
reference to something not otherwise mentioned in the song but relative
to or a cause of the THINGS. Or hinted at by them. Or something.
Have I lost everyone yet? :)
A few hours ago I saw From Dusk Til Dawn. I can't say I was impressed.
It's more in the stupid Desperado vein than it is what one might expect
from a QT-written vampire movie. But although it was really quite
horrible, it's a lot of fun if you aren't expecting too much. (It's also
depressing.)
And a wee bit of 4AD news. (Is this old?) Tarnation supposedly bailed.
Someone was asking about a bit of info he had seen in a Melody Maker
recently but could not now find. What was this about?
happy trellisazing,
e
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 11:58:46 EST
Hi. Can anyone out there bring me up to speed about The
Cardigans? I have heard only stray opinions and reviews, but am
extremely intrested in finding their CDs. I have been unsuccessful
thus far in even finding them in a catalog, much less an actual music
store...can anyone help?
(and,) mel, could you write to me? I've lost your address!
brian..
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 10:06:30 -0800
On very short notice, Elysium plays tonight
in Glendale at Stage Left which is at
208 N Brand Blvd. Phone is 818-551-9791.
The show is probably free and it's anyone's guess
when they play. Get there at 8:00, have a latte and
chat with the band. The new single will be there,
still without a sleeve.
Their next show is on Feb 3 at the Impala Cafe
with Closedown.
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 13:29:09 -0500
Does someone have a fairly comprehensive bibliography of
articles or reviews on 23 envelope?
Also, someone at 4AD (Los Angeles) told me (in September '94) that the
"This Rimy River" exhibition was hopefully going to be shown in
N.Y.C. Has anyone heard the same? Did I miss it? Or is it just not
happening?
Thanks,
Mel. L.
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 09:09:08 -0600
>What's with this concentration of great music in Michigan?!
>I mean, the budding Detroit Scene (Fuxa, Windy & Carl, Asha Vida, Spectacle
>(RIP - now Illuminate), Childrens' Ice Cream, Gravity Wax, etc, etc) is
>putting nearly all of the bands on our tiny blue Earth to shame!
Add to that list Godzuki, Monaural, and Madison Electric (the latter may
have dissolved, but they do have some songs coming out on the Quiddity
label) - all quite wonderful bands.
>Anyone have any explanations for this odd phenomenon? Is it breathing in all
>that auto exhaust? :-b
Perhaps it's those Motown vibes? ;)
Cheers,
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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 17:51:48 +0100
Gil wrote:
>W&C is [deleted] - and I'm still desperately seeking two
>of their four (?) 7"s... ~windy suggested that I check directly with...uh...
>Windy.
Four?? I got two and a half:
'Instrumentals' on BURNT HAIR
'Emerald' on ENRAPTURED
'Left Without Air' on BLUE FLEA (this is a split with FUXA)
And I know there's another 7" on BLUE FLEA, called 'Watersong', isn't it.
(and they have of course a track on the ENRAPTURED Silver Apples Tribute 10")
Are these the 4 you mean??
Frank
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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 15:31:43 -0500
Just received in our station ... Lush "Last Night."
Catalog Number PRO-CD-8034
Strange to have the "Undertow" and "Lovelife" remixes here! "Last Night"
sounds a bit dull to me, like "Desire Lines." But I've been a fan
of "Ladykillers" since I got the Reprise promo.
enjoy.
jason eugene
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 16:00:20 -0600
> Also, someone at 4AD (Los Angeles) told me (in September '94) that the
> "This Rimy River" exhibition was hopefully going to be shown in
> N.Y.C. Has anyone heard the same? Did I miss it? Or is it just not
> happening?
>
For those of us who don't travel quite as much will there ever be a v23
show in the midwest, specificaly Twin Cities area? I'd really love to see
one of there shows, but New York and LA are just to damn far away.
mike
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 15:24:22 -0800
Slowdive should've gotten their own list YEARS ago.
I agree with you whole heartly!
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(c/o [email protected])
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 15:47:49 -0600
I spent part of my summer in London, and I found Camden Town is one of
your best bets, full of little basement stores and other oddities, you
can find most stuff there, especially bootlegs, just watch yourself after
dark (it's not always a plesant part of town, but very intresting none
the less) the tube stop is kalled Camden Town so it shouldn't be hard to
find.
The other good shop is in Kennsington Market, up on the third floor, just
a dinky little place that specalizes in bootlegs, I picked up two very
wonderful pixies boots there, I can't remeber the tube stop, I know it
had Kensington in the name, and it was on either circle or district line.
Kensington market isn't to hard to find though, most anyone in that area
should be able to give you directions if you ask nicely. Another good
place to brose is town fairs, outside of london most towns will have a
market day of somesuch, it's worth parusing for a good record store,
Oxford has a specal record sale one saturday a month, also very good
stuff(promo's and such like) happy hunting.
On Thu, 18 Jan 1996 [email protected] wrote:
> Please help if possible.
>
> A friend of mine is off to London for a month, and I thought I might take the
> opportunity to find a few goodies that I haven't up to now located. I am looki
g for
> small indie / alternative (I use these terms vaguely and loosely) record shops
> in London that stock second hand / new listie music. I've been to Tower and
> Sister Ray, but there are apparently quite a number. If somebody could give me
> names (and maybe Tube Stations nearby), I would be most appreciative.
> In particular I hear there are a couple of Beggars Banquet / 4AD shops. These
> addresses please.
^^^^^^
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Hope you can help.
>
> Chris, looking to spend a packet.
>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 14:12:25 GMT
You liked Tricky & Maxinquaye and I like you for that but for fooks sake Wake
up Boo is supposed to be chipper and pointless. This is called SARCASM. Its
a well known thing in the UK and the rest of the world but obviously not in
the US.
--
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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 17:33:49 -0500
In addition to the two His Name is Alive videos, the Brothers Quay have two
compilations of their short, animated works (Volumes 1 & 2, respectively)
which include Street of Crocodiles, Cabinets of Jan Svankmeyer, etc. They also
did a tiny snippet of a Peter Gabriel video (Sledgehammer?) Both volumes are
available at indie video-rental shops, generally filed under experimental or
contemporary animation.
They've just come out with their first full-length, non-animated (but still
quite surreal) film called Institute Benjamenta. Apologies if the title is
slightly off - I haven't seen it yet.
If you like the Brothers Quay, you may also want to check out Jan Svankmeyer
and Maya Deren, whose "Meshes of the Afternoon" inspired the Pram song.
-Susan
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 17:18:42 -0400
Steven Venn wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard either one of these releases, either
> Bay's "Alison Rae" or Blueshift Signal's Seven Natural Scenes?
> I do like the Blueshift Signal song on the Waking Up Happy
> Compilation put out by Bedazzled, and I keep hearing
> good things about them. I keep seeing Bay at the HMV but its
> $36 so I am tempted to know a little more about them first.
>
> Also dewdrops guys...have you shipped any of Elysium's
> "Glisten" to Toronto?? Can you tell me how I might go about
> ordering one from you directly if you hadn't planned on shipping it.
>
> Steve
hey steve,
in regards to that Bay release you referred to...
i picked it up due to the fact that i'd heard they were sort of in
the Red House Painters/American Music Club vein, which is not
exactly untrue. the double album contains (as another fellow, gil, i
believe, said) one normal semi-electric album and one that is
entirely acoustic, the latter actually just being jason taylor and
his guitar, without his bandmate(s). as it happens, i prefer the
acoustic one. THAT one has some degree of RHPishness to it, the
other one is just a bit too amped and discordant for such a
comparison. as far as lrical quality, i have to say they're not
quite on the same level as RHP/AMC. the lyrics are a bit on the
ordinary side, though still rather nice. worth picking up i'd say,
however, WHAT the fuck is up with that 36$ pricetag? i picked up to
copies, one for myselfish and one for a friend here in Pittsburgh
and both were priced (amazingly) reasonably at 15$ for the limited
edition double. if you do decide to pick it up, and i think you'll
probably like it, and can't find it at a decent price in Toronto, or
wherever you are, let me know and i'll grab you one (15$ plus
whatever shipping, what's that, 18$? a hell of a lot better than
that absurd figure of 36.)
let me know.
also, it's notable that the tiny but respectable ANoise Annoys label
that puts out Bay also puts out Lowlife's stuff now. If you are
unfamiliar with them, they're pretty amazing. this, it should be
mentioned, is the reason for the involvement of will heggie who was
one of the founders of the cocteaus. the lead singer, craig
lorentson, has the most incedible low voice and some pretty engaging
lyrics. the band's sound is rather difficult to describe. it varies
from album to album, but always has will heggie's amazing, i hate to
say it, 'garlands'-esque bass playing as the lead music, rather than
guitar.
i love 'em. in fact, i'm putting together a website for them (the
official one, actually, at my own request,) though it's going to
take me a while. look for a post about it's completion in about a
month's time. it'll have tons of sound bites so if you don't feel
like buying their stuff without hearing it, you'll be able to sample
them first.
well, take care everyone,
peace love and squalor,
K-
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 19:08:19 -0500
>> Also, someone at 4AD (Los Angeles) told me (in September '94) that the
>> "This Rimy River" exhibition was hopefully going to be shown in
>> N.Y.C. Has anyone heard the same? Did I miss it? Or is it just not
>> happening?
>>
>For those of us who don't travel quite as much will there ever be a v23
>show in the midwest, specificaly Twin Cities area? I'd really love to see
>one of there shows, but New York and LA are just to damn far away.
>
>mike
Any word if Toronto is slated for this exhibition? We have a brand new design
museum and information centre called the Design Exchange. I would love
to see this show here if and when it comes. I count myself as v23 fan no.1
although I know here in Toronto I am not the only one.
Let me know if you heard anything about Toronto, anyone.
Steve
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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:58:12 -0500
A lesson learned already: I should have asked you guys to muse about this
for a bit before beginning. Anyway, I've read all of your suggestions, and
I've pieced together something that seems to work really well.
First, Brant recommended:
>Before we all start voting, I'd like to suggest that
>we follow the procedure that Lars has always gone by:
>assigning points to what we vote for. I believe it went like
So for "Best 4AD Release" you could do >something like
>5 University
>5 The Mirror Pool
>or
>10 Tipp city
>or
>7 Listening Cap
>2 Gentle Creatures
>1 Ask Me Tomorrow
>and so on.
This I think is the best way to do it, and in fact some of you have already
sent in your responses in this fashion. If you've done that, you are excused
from further work (I'm a teacher; I'm authorized to do this). Otherwise,
could I trouble the rest who've already responded to go through the topics
again in the new technique?
Remember, voting will end on Valentine's Day. I'm already compiling. All
votes will be kept confidential (although frankly I've been shocked a few
times already). I'll post the categories again in about a week just in case
anyone misplaces this post.
*****PRIVATELY E-MAIL RESPONSES TO [email protected]
And here is the poll:
Assign 10 points for each category; divide amongst 1995's releases in any way
you choose:
1. Best 4AD release of the year
2. Worst 4AD release of the year
3. Best 4AD song of the year
4. Worst 4AD song of the year
5. Best 4AD graphic design of the year
6. Best 4AD typography of the year
7. Most promising new artist on 4AD of the year
8. Best 4AD video of the year
9. Best 4AD related tour of 1995
10. Most anticipated 1996 4AD release
11. Artist of the year we wish were on 4AD
12. Album of the year we wish were on 4AD
13. Best Album on 4AD ever
14. Most missed former 4AD group/artist
15. WORST 4AD graphic design of the year
16. Most boring post on 4AD-L
17. Best NON-4AD album of the year
18. Best NON-4AD group/artist of the year
19. Best NON-4AD song of the year
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 16:55:16 -0800
On Sat, 20 Jan 1996 [email protected] wrote:
> Just received in our station ... Lush "Last Night."
>
> Tracks:
> 1: Last Night (Latent Power Mix) 5:23
> 2: Undertow (Spooky Remix) 9:12
> 3: Last Night (Darkest Hour Mix) 4:57
> 4: Lovelife (Suga Bullit Remix) 8:15
> 5: Last Night (Hexadecimal Dub Mix) 6:31
> 6: Ladykillers (Demo/Ruff Mix '95) 3:14
>
> Catalog Number PRO-CD-8034
>
> Strange to have the "Undertow" and "Lovelife" remixes here! "Last Night"
> sounds a bit dull to me, like "Desire Lines." But I've been a fan
> of "Ladykillers" since I got the Reprise promo.
>
> enjoy.
>
> jason eugene
"Desire Lines" is far from dull. It is *awesome*, their best song
IMO! I'm glad to hear they are still doing songs like that.
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 20:04:27 CST
i know how much you hate these "unsubscribing" messages, but i am near
delirium! before the holidays, i wrote to my system manager and to the person
that the "help" message i received suggested and i am STILL ON THIS LIST!!!
(screams of hysteria)
what has happened is that i subscribed under the address of
[email protected] (or something similar...this was such a long time
ago i can hardly remember...) but now my e-mail address is
[email protected]. it is under the same account and the same system,
though the address got altered on us.
i feel so completely trapped here, but i just can't handle the volume of mail
anymore! can't somebody please help me, please?
xoxo,
janice ariane
[email protected]
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:09:50 -0800
On Sat, 20 Jan 1996, monkey wrote:
> You liked Tricky & Maxinquaye and I like you for that but for fooks sake Wake
> up Boo is supposed to be chipper and pointless. This is called SARCASM. Its
> a well known thing in the UK and the rest of the world but obviously not in
> the US.
The mere fact that something is *intentionally* chipper and pointless
doesn't necessarily make it anything other than chipper and pointless.
Nor does it raise chipperness or pointlessness to the status of art. :)
On the other hand, I don't see how it could ruin a Boo Radley's record.
e
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:18:48 -0800
On Fri, 19 Jan 1996 [email protected] wrote:
> Before we all start voting, I'd like to suggest that
> we follow the procedure that Lars has always gone by:
> assigning points to what we vote for. I believe it went like
> this: for each category you get 10 points to distribute however
> you want. So for "Best 4AD Release" you could do something
> like
> 10 Tipp city
If memory serves, we were limited to a maximum of 5 points for each album
listed. This seemed to balance things out as well as make voting a little
more painful than most other polls. (Actually it's why I liked this
list's poll better than the others.) But something ought to change so...
oh who cares. :) I just liked it.
e