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Subject: Drum, send my Vaughan Oliver book !
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:28:52 -0600
From: John Monroe (5ES8MONROEJ@vmsa.csd.mu.edu)
Subject: Re: star vs king
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:35:01 -0600
From: zelzah (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Re: harmony rockets...
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:25:40 -0500
From: Gil Gershman (TooPurist@AOL.COM)
Subject: Revolver
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 13:14:40 +0000
From: Richard Fitzsimons (FITZR@IRLEARN.UCD.IE)
Subject: Toomey/Tsunami/ESP/Latest Release Schedule
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:13:57 -0700
From: Noah Slankard (slankard@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Bonnie and Clyde
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 13:00:26 EST
From: mai (MAINGR01@UKCC.UKY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Oval/Seefeel/Mouse On Mars/Locust
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 12:35:02 -0500
From: MCINTYRE@PA.MSU.EDU
Subject: 4AD-L FAQ Update
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:59:07 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Cindytalk tour dates!
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 14:19:29 -0400
From: Involved Design (involved@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: Frank Black (Non-Scan)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:38:25 +0100 (MET)
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Bleak
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:34:36 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: RHP
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 13:19:34 -0800
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: long live slowdive
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:27:17 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: new Virginia Astley album!!!!
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:21:03 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: a long fatal belly dance
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:00:48 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: New Air Miami/Mark Robinson
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:16:50 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Bonnie and Clyde
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:57:41 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: ESP
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:05:38 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Frank Black at Berns? / Morpheus of the endless
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:19:56 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Cindytalk
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:14:55 PST
From: Dante Nuno (dnuno@CCMAIL.QCWORLD.COM)
Subject: This Rimy River Ltd. delay/V23 Exh.
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 20:47:36 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Tanya Donnelly and Catherine Wheel
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:23:46 +1100
From: Derby Chang (derbyc@TPLRD.TPL.OZ.AU)
Subject: Re: Bleak
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:34:36 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: long live slowdive
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 10:40:05 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Any news on Laika/Stereolab?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:59:36 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Bleak
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:40:08 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: bad Canadian music aplenty
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 06:52:41 -0500
From: "The Dutchman was dressed to impress..." (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: ESP
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:13:14 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: ESP
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:56:43 -0700
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: This Rimy River Ltd. delay/V23 Exh.
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 01:04:08 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: ESP-Continent out now !
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 23:19:11 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Re: Bonnie and Clyde
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:52:09 EST
From: mai (MAINGR01@UKCC.UKY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bonnie and Clyde
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:45:03 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Cocteau Twins DAT
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 01:44:31 +0100
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: yet another Best of '95 list... late but still nice
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:01:43 -0500
From: Gil Gershman (TooPurist@AOL.COM)
Subject: subscribe
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:38:28 +0300
From: "Igor V. Vaganoff" (igo@DONWAVE.RND.SU)
Subject: Very Pleasant Neighbor
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:47:47 -0600
From: Kagin Lee (klee1@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu)
Subject: Drum, send my Vaughan Oliver book !
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:28:52 -0600
From: John Monroe (5ES8MONROEJ@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Toomey/Tsunami/ESP/Latest Release Schedule
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:31:46 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: RHP (mbv)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:43:30 -0600
From: goo goo goo joob (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:28:52 -0600
From: John Monroe (5ES8MONROEJ@vmsa.csd.mu.edu)
Subject: Drum, send my Vaughan Oliver book !


and really, apologies to this list, but this person will not return
any mail, and has my Vaughan Oliver book.  any ideas on how to get a
reply out of someone who you give money to, in good faith, to purchase
you a Vauaghan Oliver book and then states they have it, but have
refused to send it for a _year_ ???  so, as i can get no reply out of
this person, i figured i would have to write where she reads, again!

i do apologize to all but one of you...


Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:35:01 -0600
From: zelzah (zelzah@SAT.NET)
Subject: Re: star vs king


At 06:23 PM 1/15/96 -0800, you wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, pacer wrote:
>
>> >DISAPPOINTMENTS
>
>> >Belly
>
>> um ...NO!!!  I don't think so, why is it that you say that?  Is it because
>> if KING?  I hope not because KING is WAY better than star was.  STAR was
>> good but KING great.
>> ..........i guess I just wrote this because I disagree.  LONG LIVE BELLY!!!
>

who made this thread happen.

This is the last fucking time I will write concerning Belly and the *opinions*
expressed towards them, or whatever.  I just write what I fucking feel like
writing.  I am expressing myself as was einexille and the many people on
this list do.  The list would be boring if it wasn't for people's opinions
and thoughts on the many different bands 4ad has to offer.  I personally
don't give a shit being called "arrogant" or whatever, I actually like it.

luv,
-the ever-so ARROGANT,
-zelzah.

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:25:40 -0500
From: Gil Gershman (TooPurist@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: harmony rockets...


>i've been desperately looking for a cd by harmony rockets.  for those that
>did not know and may be interested, harmony rockets and mercury rev are the
same
>band.  they released their only disc a few months ago, and for some reason
it
>has already been deleted.

Yes. "Paralyzed Mind of the Archangel Void" was deleted - temporarily. The
band (Mercury Rev in disguise) wasn't happy with the artwork. It has
apparently been reissued and it's a must-have in any form. I LIKE the
original artwork. But since when does that matter.

More raves:
the Mille Plateaux "Electric Ladyland" comp
Bedouin Ascent - "Music for Particles"
Spring Heel Jack - "There Are Strings" (#1 for '95 - impossibly beating out
Windy &                              Carl's dynamite LP!)

*** once you've gone jungle, there's just no turning back.

until something like THESE come along:
Cul de Sac - I Don't Want to Go To Bed
The Mike Gunn - Almaron
 - psychedelia never died... it was just hibernating. :)

Keep dreaming stormy dreams; drop me a line if you want more info about any
of these.

GuerillaG - walking in George of the Jungle's musical shooz.


Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 13:14:40 +0000
From: Richard Fitzsimons (FITZR@IRLEARN.UCD.IE)
Subject: Revolver


Bascaly just a thank you to whoever mentioned revolver on teh list. I saw the a
lbum selling for a few pounds and decided to pick it up. I got it on Friday and
 its been on my turntable all weekend. This is an amazing album....somewhere be
tween Ride and teh Stone Roses....imho...:)

Brilliant brilliant album...mut look out for the eps now....were they released
on vinyl?

and if the album was only released 93, I'd say we're safe enough for another re
lease.....I mean look at the Stone Roses or mbv...:)

R

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:13:57 -0700
From: Noah Slankard (slankard@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Toomey/Tsunami/ESP/Latest Release Schedule


> Is Tsunami on 4AD now that liqourice is a label member???

        No. Tsunami are on Toomey's Simple Machines label.

> How did Jenny Toomey wind up on 4AD?

        When I recently interviewed Ivo for Alt. Press, he said that he
liked Jenny's voice and just asked her whether she had a project outside
of Tsunami that 4AD might be able to release. Liquorice/Ida
guitarist/vocalist Daniel Littleton and Toomey used to play together
(pre-Tsunami) in a band called "Geek," of which Liquorice is basically a
continuation. Also, Jenny and Mark Robinson have been friends for a long
time, so I'm sure that Ivo probably met her through that. Of course, one
shouldn't forget that Warren Defever produced the last Grenadine
(Robinson, Toomey, Andrew of Eggs) album, or that HNIA drummer Trey Many
is a member of Liquorice. See, Toomey has lots of 4AD connections...

> Also, is the collaboration between Ian Masters and Warren Defever,
> Esp Summer, going to be a 4AD release???

        Probably not. They passed on the option of releasing it earlier.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's the latest 4AD release schedule (for the US, at least):
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
3/5

* LUSH - _Lovelife_ CD

4/9

* SCHEER -  "TBA"  CD

5/14

* THROWING MUSES - _Limbo_  CD (released via Throwing Music/Ryko in USA)

* LISA GERMANO - _Excerpts From A Love Circus_  CD


Sometime later (ie: no clear date):

* HIS NAME IS ALIVE - _Stars On ESP_   CD

* DEAD CAN DANCE - "TBA"     CD

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 13:00:26 EST
From: mai (MAINGR01@UKCC.UKY.EDU)
Subject: Bonnie and Clyde


Dear 4-ADlers,

I think I read it here a while back, so I'm sorry if I'm rehashing
old material, but could someone tell me who is singing and playing
on "Bonnie and Clyde" ( a hidden track?) on Luna's PENTHOUSE.
A friend brought it to my attention when I lent her the disc. Is
it Johnette singing? There is no documentation provided for the 11th
cut and we've been trying to guess who is involved. Nice song.
Any help appreciated, thanks in advance.

Mark Ingram
maingr01@ukcc.uky.edu

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 12:35:02 -0500
From: MCINTYRE@PA.MSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Oval/Seefeel/Mouse On Mars/Locust



>Oval 'systemich' - thier first album (that I know of)
>        is very smooth and mechanical and ambient and
>        sweet and wierd.
>Oval 'dickont' - thier secont album (that I know of)
>        is smooth and totally unproductable with respect
>        to what is around that next corner.

Can anyone tell me something about the people behind Oval?  I bought their
two discs at a record show because they had been filed with discs by
Cluster.  The woman working the booth said her boss had told her they were
associated with Cluster, but all she knew was that he had said so.

Frankly, I don't hear any connection.  Can anyone confirm or deny the
connection?

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept
Michigan State University
mcintyre@pa.msu.edu

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:59:07 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: 4AD-L FAQ Update


I've updated the 4AD-L FAQ again, incorporating recent
corrections/additions mailed my way and fixing up some HTML glitches. The
major addition is a discussion of the "Facing The Wrong Way" and
"...think I'm getting the hang of it" comps and their track listings.

As always, you can get the FAQ from

    http://www.inow.com/~jens/Jens/4AD_FAQ.html

Enjoy!

__________
Jens Alfke __________________          _________________________
           jens@mooseyard.com          http://www.inow.com/~jens
       _______________________________________________________________
       Old Aunt Nyla she looked out on the feast of Stephen
       When they stole her special ham, she swore she would get even
       So she took a belt of Scotch and picked up a barstool
       Praying to her porcine god: "Deliver me that pig-stealing fool!"


Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 14:19:29 -0400
From: Involved Design (involved@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Cindytalk tour dates!


Here are the tentative dates for the upcoming Cindytalk US tour. I
apologize profusely to anyone on more than one of the 4 lists I sent this
message to (4AD, World Serpent, Cindytalk, our Tour List) and I promise not
to do it again, but I think you'll all agree that Cindytalk have a diverse
fan base. Also, if you see a cindytalk tour date message on any usenet
group, you may safely ignore it!

        Here are the dates as of today: (dates are subject to change, and
many probably will be, but the gist is sound!)

        February 17     Washington DC           Black Cat
        Febryary 21     Ceveland, OH            Speak In Tongues
        February 22     Detroit, MI             Alvin's
        February 23     Minneapolis, MN         7Th Street Entry
        February 24     Chicago, IL             TBA
        February 27     Portland, OR            Satyricon
        February 28     Seattle, WA             Crocodile
        March 1         San Francisco, CA       Trocodero
        March 2         San Francisco, CA       Bottom of the Hill
        March 3         San Jose, CA            Brass Rail
        March 4         Santa Clara, CA         Cactus Club
        March 8         Los Angeles, CA         Viper Room
        March 9         Los Angeles, CA         Whiskey A Go Go
        March 11        Tempe, AZ               TBA
        March 13-17     Austin, TX              SXSW
        March 18        New Orleans, LA         Howling Wolf
        March 21        Orlando, FL             Sapphire Supper Club
        March 23        Atlanta, GA             TBA
        March 25        Charlotte, NC           Tremont Music Hall
        March/ April ?? Philadelphia            TBA
        March/ April ?? New York City, NY       TBA
        March/ April ?? Cambridge, MA           Middle East

For more info feel free to contact us here at Involved. We look foreward to
seeing you on the road, and so does Gordon!

Rick and Annie

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:16:00 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Frank Black (fwd, funny as shit)


This is about the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. More on the way
if I can find time to read the rest of the thread. :)

e

---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:38:25 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Re: Frank Black (Non-Scan)


On Fri, 13 Jan 1995, John Boqvist  wrote:

> Two of my (unnamed, but very indie-initiated) friends attended the
> Nojesguiden Awards bash at Berns the other nigth.
> Suddenly a fat bloke with an acoustic guitar appeared and played
> some songs, just like *any* half shite acoustic guitar player.

Funny that. It seems like Frank Black is really digging his own
grave, or rather, the record company is. Read in Expressen Fredag
about the company's promotion stunt for Mr. Black, which made them
(the Fredag crew) cancel their interview:

Three guys dressed in black wearing sunglasses entered their editorial
room, slams a tape recorder on the floor, they press play, and start to
dance. Right there in front of their desks. The music is Frank Black's
latest single.

I'm not sure, but I would have thought it was funny, though they do
have a point when saying that they'd like to decide if the music
is good or not themselves, without this kind of promotion stunts.

 //Erik


Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:34:36 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Bleak


On Mon, 15 Jan 1996, Micah Newman wrote:

>         I'm considering buying Bleak's "Vane" with my next Projekt mail
> order, when lovesliescrushing's "Xuvetyn" comes out, and I'm wondering if
> anyone can tell me about it. I gathered that einexile doesn't like it,
> and I wouldn't mind knowing exactly why, but does anyone else have input
> about it? I really like Lycia a lot (although unbelievably, I have yet to
> buy _The Burning Circle..._, but soon will), and the Darkwave catalog
> description of Bleak being more the intense, "A Brief Glimpse" side of Lycia
> sounds pretty damn good to me.

I may have posted about this before so apologies if I am repeating
myself. My problem with Bleak is that it is shoddy and seems to have been
knocked off. If you were to draw a line indicating sound quality and
spontaneity, it would look like this...

 Circle -> Stark -> Ionia -> Wake -> Live -> Vane

...Vane being at the "bootleg" and "flippant" end of the spectrum. It
sounds like demos for Live, if Live were a Studio album. It is shoddy
enough that I am inclined to think it might have been written and
recorded live, perhaps as warmup or cooldown during the Circle sessions.
There is no doubt in my mind that the people responsible for Burning
Circle could come up with this stuff on the spot. But I'm still not
impressed. There are a few halfway decent tunes, but they don't surprise
or haunt or rock and it all sounds pretty awful. If I hadn't got it at
the same time as Burning Circle the album might make me fvery angry, but
since I did and given that they have made a special effort to remove it
conceptually from Lycia, I don't have a problem with it. I just find it
near-unlistenable and fairly useless and disappointing. Buy the other
album instead.

Does anyone have the new Soul Whirling Somewhere?

 e


Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 13:19:34 -0800
From: Rick Stone (crnholio@EMF.NET)
Subject: RHP

              meek" at Jan 15, 96 06:23:07 pm

I just heard the most fucked-up thing this morning.

Someone posted a note here saying that they heard that RHP signed to RCA
and the album would be out this spring.  I mentioned that to a friend of
mine who told me that he heard that RCA had an offer on the table (which
would have paid 4AD back for the money THEY spend on this new album, by
the way), and they called 4AD to find out the 'poop' on Mark and 4AD just
slagged Mark off completely, so RCA backed out.  Really shitty, if you
ask me!

Rick


Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:27:17 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: long live slowdive


Funny (not) that when the band most often discussed on this list actually
signs to 4AD, they get their own list.

The US release of the Mojave album came out today and I bought it. I had
the CD already and could understand the words fine, so I essentially
bought it for pride of ownership and the artwork. (The artwork is
beautiful.) So guess what? Payment for my decadence is the booklet is
damaged. Let he who is clever and opens these CDs and plays them and puts
them back beware. Better yet, let him get a clue as to how someone else's
CD inserts should be handled, eh?

The thing is, I suspect this happened in the factory. Anyone else have a
Mojave insert like this? :(

Whatever. The art is indeed very nice, the band name...is irritating. Has
anyone ever tried continually changing their band name but releasing
albums all with the same title? _Mojave_ by Ask Me Tomorrow; "Mojave",
the hot new single from Tomorrow's Taken, etc...

Ugh. Score one against all that trademark copyright shit. Bleagh.

Does Christopher Andrews not wish to be photographed?


 einexile (still thinks rutti is the best music gets)


Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:21:03 -0800
From: Dewdrops Records (nelson@ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: new Virginia Astley album!!!!


I just got word from Japan that there's a
new Virginia Astley album coming out in March!
Joy!

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:00:48 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: a long fatal belly dance


On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, zelzah wrote:

> einexille:  this isn't in reference to you rather than to the stupid fuck
> who made this thread happen.

The impression I got was that this person was just goofing off. This is
an excuse often used around here when a careless flame gets its poster
all wet, but my reaction at the time was that this was a rather clever
spoof on the conventional "who are you to judge my opinion" paradoxes
that show up here from time to time.

Just to set the record straight: If you don't like someone's opinion of
your opinion, then tell them your opinion of their opinion, and if they
have an opinion of that, repeat as necessary. It is never wrong to tell
someone that he is full of shit and it is even less often necessary to
note that your post is not in fact a new stone tablet sent from Great
Spirit Herself. Usually it's more fun to just go on arguing about what
you were arguing about rather than argue about what you ought to be
arguing about.

This has been a little bit of musin in the shape of a pretzel. More where
that came from if you fail to comply.

> This is the last fucking time I will write concerning Belly and the *opinions*
> expressed towards them, or whatever.  I just write what I fucking feel like
> writing.  I am expressing myself as was einexille and the many people on
> this list do.  The list would be boring if it wasn't for people's opinions
> and thoughts on the many different bands 4ad has to offer.  I personally
> don't give a shit being called "arrogant" or whatever, I actually like it.

Look at it this way: At least Doktor Elvia and Ms. Elvia didn't see fit
to quote the entire 23k speil back at us, eh? That might have been kind
of fun, tho...


 einexile, who will continue to talk about slowdive HERE thank you

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:16:50 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: New Air Miami/Mark Robinson


Found the following in the new release schedule I got from TeenBeat:

 23-April The Olympic Death Squad (Mark Robinson solo) "Blue"  CD (#200)
 7-May  Air Miami 12"/CDsingle (# 197)

The latter isn't scheduled for 4AD release, is it?

Frank



++++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++++


Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:57:41 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bonnie and Clyde


>old material, but could someone tell me who is singing and playing
>on "Bonnie and Clyde" ( a hidden track?) on Luna's PENTHOUSE.

it's luna with laetitia from stereolab.  for those of you that have the ep
and penthouse, which version is on the lp?  i only have the ep, and it
features two versions, the bonnie parker version and the clyde barrow
version.  i prefer the former, though they're both good.

curious,

BiZ

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:05:38 -0600
From: the boy in zinc (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: ESP


>> Also, is the collaboration between Ian Masters and Warren Defever,
>> Esp Summer, going to be a 4AD release???
>
>        Probably not. They passed on the option of releasing it earlier.

word has it that esp summer (the tape) will be released on cd (in france,
again) sometime this year.  it's going to be called esp continent, and will
be limited to about 800 copies or so.  as to a release date, i have no
idea.  anyone care to divulge? (beams at hk)

end transmission,

BiZ

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:19:56 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Frank Black at Berns? / Morpheus of the endless


I assume this is the Berns nightclub in Stockholm. If so, does Swedish TV still 
ave "live
at Berns"? (They were still showing this when I lived there '91/'92). Then some 
vensk
could verify if it was said Fat Acoustic Black Frank Type Person or not.

And talking of Sweden - has anybody got any info on Morpheus Of The Endless. Ver
 &ATTrees/
Nephilim sounding. I have the Neurochild  12" on CD (wierd Nun records), and was
wondering
whether they had done anything else....


Chris den f.d. svenskan


Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:14:55 PST
From: Dante Nuno (dnuno@CCMAIL.QCWORLD.COM)
Subject: Cindytalk


Can Ronnie or Annie please  mail me back some info. on Cindytalk/Gordon Sharp.
I would like to know if Macbeth ever got up off the ground, and also where I
might be able to get Cindytalk paraphernalia.  I would also like to know how to
get in touch with him if that is at all possible.

Please send private email to:

dnuno@qcworld.com

Danté

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 20:47:36 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: This Rimy River Ltd. delay/V23 Exh.


Received a mailing from 4AD mailorder saying that:

Publication date for the 'This Runy River' ltd. edition now is sometime in
March.
The cover of the book wil be "3mm clear acrylic giving the appearance of
glass, bound with an orange leather spine. The slipcase is dark blue suede
with a silver foil blockage design".

There is a v23 UK exhibition in Newcastle Upon Tyne, at the University
Gallery from 24th February to 29th March.

Frank
++++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++++

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:23:46 +1100
From: Derby Chang (derbyc@TPLRD.TPL.OZ.AU)
Subject: Tanya Donnelly and Catherine Wheel


I watched a cute video of Catherine Wheel's "Judy's Staring At The
Sun", and suddenly there is Tanya, duetting.  I've never been much
of a fan of Catherine Wheel (there was a very nice Australian Catherine
Wheel, but they are long gone).  Now I am very interested.

So what's the goss.  Are there more songs with Tanya?  How did they
meet?  What is the song _about_?

Derby


Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:34:36 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Bleak


On Mon, 15 Jan 1996, Micah Newman wrote:

>         I'm considering buying Bleak's "Vane" with my next Projekt mail
> order, when lovesliescrushing's "Xuvetyn" comes out, and I'm wondering if
> anyone can tell me about it. I gathered that einexile doesn't like it,
> and I wouldn't mind knowing exactly why, but does anyone else have input
> about it? I really like Lycia a lot (although unbelievably, I have yet to
> buy _The Burning Circle..._, but soon will), and the Darkwave catalog
> description of Bleak being more the intense, "A Brief Glimpse" side of Lycia
> sounds pretty damn good to me.

I may have posted about this before so apologies if I am repeating
myself. My problem with Bleak is that it is shoddy and seems to have been
knocked off. If you were to draw a line indicating sound quality and
spontaneity, it would look like this...

 Circle -> Stark -> Ionia -> Wake -> Live -> Vane

...Vane being at the "bootleg" and "flippant" end of the spectrum. It
sounds like demos for Live, if Live were a Studio album. It is shoddy
enough that I am inclined to think it might have been written and
recorded live, perhaps as warmup or cooldown during the Circle sessions.
There is no doubt in my mind that the people responsible for Burning
Circle could come up with this stuff on the spot. But I'm still not
impressed. There are a few halfway decent tunes, but they don't surprise
or haunt or rock and it all sounds pretty awful. If I hadn't got it at
the same time as Burning Circle the album might make me fvery angry, but
since I did and given that they have made a special effort to remove it
conceptually from Lycia, I don't have a problem with it. I just find it
near-unlistenable and fairly useless and disappointing. Buy the other
album instead.

Does anyone have the new Soul Whirling Somewhere?

 e

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 10:40:05 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: long live slowdive


>Funny (not) that when the band most often discussed on this list actually
>signs to 4AD, they get their own list.

It's REALLY annoying. Eventually we will have a separate mailing list for
discussing every song by every band ever on 4AD. e will hang out on the
"Rutti" list, presumably. Look for me on the "My Love Paramour" and
"Sweetness And Light" lists. For the time being I will resist the
tendency and ignore the Slowdive list.

>The US release of the Mojave album came out today and I bought it.

Ha! Somebody from Warner Bros. e-mailed me out of the blue and offered to
send me a free promo copy, which should be arriving next week. I feel
like a net.bigwig or something. Does this mean I have to write a fawning
sycophantic review?

I still keep musing about Brant's dismissal of "Pygmalion", esp. since
I've been listening to "Avalyn" a lot (it's on a comp. tape I made in
1991 that I just dug up and stuck in my car stereo.) Frankly, to me
"Pygmalion" sounds a lot like "Avalyn" without so many pedals, which is
part of why I love it so. (Not that I minded the effects...)

>Whatever. The art is indeed very nice, the band name...is irritating. Has
>anyone ever tried continually changing their band name but releasing
>albums all with the same title?

The [distinctly nonthislisty] SF band Caroliner sort of do this, in that
they're always tweaking their name ... "Caroliner Rainbow", "Caroliner
Bites A Singing Pig", etc.


__________
Jens Alfke  __________________
            jens@mooseyard.com
                          _______________________________________________
                         "Ten, sir," said the tensor.
                          Tension, apprehension and dissention have begun.

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:59:36 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Any news on Laika/Stereolab?


It's been a while since "Silver Apples Of the Moon" -- does anyone have
any news of what Laika are up to? Is there a new album in the works?

And I believe Stereolab's new LP is supposed to be released in the near
future, or so the Web site says; has anyone managed to snag an advance
copy?

Youth wants to know,

__________
Jens Alfke  __________________
            jens@mooseyard.com
                          _______________________________________________
                         "Ten, sir," said the tensor.
                          Tension, apprehension and dissention have begun.


Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:40:08 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bleak


On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, einexile the meek wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Jan 1996, Micah Newman wrote:
>
> >         I'm considering buying Bleak's "Vane" with my next Projekt mail
> > order, when lovesliescrushing's "Xuvetyn" comes out, and I'm wondering if
> > anyone can tell me about it. I gathered that einexile doesn't like it,
> > and I wouldn't mind knowing exactly why, but does anyone else have input
> > about it? I really like Lycia a lot (although unbelievably, I have yet to
> > buy _The Burning Circle..._, but soon will), and the Darkwave catalog
> > description of Bleak being more the intense, "A Brief Glimpse" side of Lycia
> > sounds pretty damn good to me.
>
> I may have posted about this before so apologies if I am repeating
> myself. My problem with Bleak is that it is shoddy and seems to have been
> knocked off. If you were to draw a line indicating sound quality and
> spontaneity, it would look like this...
>
>  Circle -> Stark -> Ionia -> Wake -> Live -> Vane

Ouch... I only have "Ionia" and "Stark Corner" at this point, but they're
both pretty blatantly four-track type recordings, although still excellent.

> ...Vane being at the "bootleg" and "flippant" end of the spectrum. It
> sounds like demos for Live, if Live were a Studio album. It is shoddy
> enough that I am inclined to think it might have been written and
> recorded live, perhaps as warmup or cooldown during the Circle sessions.
> There is no doubt in my mind that the people responsible for Burning
> Circle could come up with this stuff on the spot. But I'm still not
> impressed. There are a few halfway decent tunes, but they don't surprise
> or haunt or rock and it all sounds pretty awful. If I hadn't got it at
> the same time as Burning Circle the album might make me fvery angry, but
> since I did and given that they have made a special effort to remove it
> conceptually from Lycia, I don't have a problem with it. I just find it
> near-unlistenable and fairly useless and disappointing. Buy the other
> album instead.

        It's next on my list. I think I'll still try Bleak, though.

> Does anyone have the new Soul Whirling Somewhere?
>
>  e

        Yeah... I posted about it awhile back, and I would feel awfully
self-repetitive if I had to go through that whole spiel again; but I'll
say it's at least as good as _Eating The Sea_; a little more varied, more
guitar and other instruments in addition to the familiar swaths of lush
keyboards.

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 06:52:41 -0500
From: "The Dutchman was dressed to impress..." (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: bad Canadian music aplenty


Jens wrote:
>On the other hand:
>> Rose Chronicles - Shiver
>The worst kind of adolescent Lush/Ride knockoff with lyrics even sappier
>than Liz Fraser's recent output. Avoid like the plague. Someone needs to
>do Gil a favor and take this klunker off his hands but it ain't gonna be
>me.

Or me...features an incredibly lame breathy female singer who you can just
tell really loves the sound of her own voice and her "profound" teen diary
style lyrics.

Speaking of lousy Canuck music, what do I see joroses selling?
>--Moist - Silver                                                        $3

Oh, I can't believe anyone in the US even bought this! Total beer-commercial
music. "Buy my crap", indeed. You should be paying people to take this one
off your hands. Oh well, everyone's entitled to a mistake once in a while.

this early morning rant brought to you by
Larry


Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:13:14 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: ESP


>800 copies?!  Is there any way we as the list could buy up half of them
>(all 400 of us want this on CD don't we?).   Anyone know if there's a way
>to pre-order them?  I hate listening to tapes so i haven't ordered it but i
>have heard a few songs (thanks BiZ).

Right on!  If anyone ever hears about this, please, please, prettyplease let
us all know... I think I'd get kind of upset if there were copies of this
floating around and I didn't have one.

Possessive of Warren schtuff as ever,
Jake

If you shoot a mime ... nevermind.

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:56:43 -0700
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: ESP


>word has it that esp summer (the tape) will be released on cd (in france,
>again) sometime this year.  it's going to be called esp continent, and will
>be limited to about 800 copies or so.  as to a release date, i have no
>idea.  anyone care to divulge? (beams at hk)

800 copies?!  Is there any way we as the list could buy up half of them
(all 400 of us want this on CD don't we?).   Anyone know if there's a way
to pre-order them?  I hate listening to tapes so i haven't ordered it but i
have heard a few songs (thanks BiZ).

-cz

___<<<<<<<<<*********ckemnitz@students.wisc.edu********>>>>>>>>>___

"That's how society strangled all those it wanted to get rid of, or wanted
to protect itself from, and put them in asylums, because they refused to be
accomplices to a kind of lofty swill.
     For a lunatic is a man that society does not wish to hear but wants to
prevent from uttering certain unbearable truths."   -Antonin Artaud


Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 01:04:08 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: This Rimy River Ltd. delay/V23 Exh.


>Received a mailing from 4AD mailorder saying that:
>
>Publication date for the 'This Runy River' ltd. edition now is sometime in
>March.
>The cover of the book wil be "3mm clear acrylic giving the appearance of
>glass, bound with an orange leather spine. The slipcase is dark blue suede
>with a silver foil blockage design".



Yeah... but despite extra costs the mail-order price remains at =A3150.00!

Happy Happy Happy, Joy Joy Joy!

?




Emiel Efdee

the Netherlands, January 18, 1996
... efdee@luna.nl

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 23:19:11 +0100
From: "Laurent Lapierre \"P'tit Greg.\"" (lapierre@MICRONET.FR)
Subject: Re: ESP-Continent out now !


>>> Also, is the collaboration between Ian Masters and Warren Defever,
>>> Esp Summer, going to be a 4AD release???
>word has it that esp summer (the tape) will be released on cd (in france,
>again) sometime this year.  it's going to be called esp continent, and will
>be limited to about 800 copies or so.  as to a release date, i have no
>idea.  anyone care to divulge? (beams at hk)
>BiZ

Exact! (I remember the name ESP-continent now!) I've seen it 3 days ago in
a shop in Paris. I think the release was last week.

                expensive in France! 1$ < 5FF )

If there is really only 800 copies, maybe it will be difficult to find in US
I can take a few copie here for Ian/Warren addicts, but you will have to
e mail me privatlely.

Maybe it's possible to take it trough _Time Stereo_ for less bucks.
(this is a french released but the tape came from Time Stereo).


>>>->-->---> L a u r e n t   L a p i e r r e   "P'tit Greg." <---<--<-<<<
mail : lapierre@micronet.fr             http://Is.coming.soon/I.hope.html

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:52:09 EST
From: mai (MAINGR01@UKCC.UKY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bonnie and Clyde

              

                Incoherent rage?  Do you make a soft crackling noise when
>the wind blows you?  Okay?  (I hate smileys, here's one of me sticking
>my finger in my ear, wincing and wearing a false goatee beard: $%#$*)
>
>mai  wrote:
>>
>> I think I read it here a while back, so I'm sorry if I'm rehashing
>> old material, but could someone tell me who is singing and playing
>> on "Bonnie and Clyde" ( a hidden track?) on Luna's PENTHOUSE.
>
>It's either Dame Kiri Te Kanawa or Laetitia "Stereolab" Sadier, you
>decide which is more likely to be right.  I won't try to confuse you
>with "humour".  There were two versions released on a single, the
>"Bonnie Parker" version and the "Clyde Barrow" version - the latter
>features a lot of strange whooping yells, and is the one on my copy of
>the album, but according to some people theirs feature the other
>version.
>Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 17/01/96



Hmm. This IS a strange list, but that's ok. I can handle humor, well some.
Thanks for the answer. Actually I really like Kiri, but would be a tad
surprised if it were her. I suppose that's the humor part? Maybe Kiri
could tour with Peter Murphy? Tony Bennett and HoL?   Frank S and U2
is possible....

Thanks y'all
Mark Ingram
maingr01@ukcc.uky.edu

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:45:03 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Bonnie and Clyde

              96 01:00:26 pm

Russell Martin  wrote:
 [Me:]
 > > Can I be frank?
 >
 > Hey buddy! Why don't you fucking knock it off! What are you
 > trying to do, upset the listies? Don't you understand? Attempts
 > to be humorous only confuse them. So just butt out and let FRANK
 > answer the damn question.  Okay?

Hey, who are you to tell me to not express my opinion of "King" and I'll
fucking knock it off if you censor my self-expression who makes the
rules anyway?  Incoherent rage?  Do you make a soft crackling noise when
the wind blows you?  Okay?  (I hate smileys, here's one of me sticking
my finger in my ear, wincing and wearing a false goatee beard: $%#$*)

mai  wrote:
>
> I think I read it here a while back, so I'm sorry if I'm rehashing
> old material, but could someone tell me who is singing and playing
> on "Bonnie and Clyde" ( a hidden track?) on Luna's PENTHOUSE.

It's either Dame Kiri Te Kanawa or Laetitia "Stereolab" Sadier, you
decide which is more likely to be right.  I won't try to confuse you
with "humour".  There were two versions released on a single, the
"Bonnie Parker" version and the "Clyde Barrow" version - the latter
features a lot of strange whooping yells, and is the one on my copy of
the album, but according to some people theirs feature the other
version.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England 17/01/96
nja@le.ac.uk, http://www.engg.le.ac.uk/staff/NORMAN.HTM
Th' Faith Healers

Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 01:44:31 +0100
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: Cocteau Twins DAT


>'D' is indeed a code for DAT and not for DCC. 4AD never issued a DCC, at
>least not in the UK, maybe in Japan(??).
>The reason they use a 'D' in the catalogue and not 'DAT' is a very practical
>one I think: DAT wouldn't in that little circle they use to indicate the
>formats! By the way, the 'D' can't be found in the pricelist. I suppose they
>are free :)
>
>And yes, the 'Blue Bell Knoll' LP initially was released in a gatefold
>sleeve. Cat.# CAD 807. No extra 'D's or whatever.
>
>Frank

...there is a price for the DAT-Tape GBP 10.00.
You can find it on the last Correction/Deletion/Addition list.
The catalogue number though is again wrong on this list: CAD T 807C D

Matthias.


Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:01:43 -0500
From: Gil Gershman (TooPurist@AOL.COM)
Subject: yet another Best of '95 list... late but still nice


Hi all-
If anyone cares...
Actually, if you'd like more info on any release, feel free to e-mail me. I'm
more than eager to share some of these discoveries with those who'd
appreciate them. :)

and now . . .

Everything is in order, but I took the cheesy way out: Why compare apples n'
oranges? SHJ and Scott Walker are both #1's in my book. . . and this is just
about the only way to show that. Conspicuously missing: 7"s and vinyl. But
I'm a newcomer to that format, and I haven't even heard the stuff I DO have
on vinyl. Next year. . .Also missing:anything I haven't heard. Oh well.

 ~~~ noise from the jungle & the electronic revolution ~~~
1.SPRING HEEL JACK - There Are Strings
2.MOUSE ON MARS - Iaora Tahiti
3.SEEFEEL - Succour
4.APHEX TWIN - ...I Care Because You Do
5.ALEC EMPIRE - Low on Ice (The Iceland Sessions)
6.BEDOUIN ASCENT - Music for Particles
7.LOCUST - Truth is Born of Arguments
8.GERM - Parrot
9.DISJECTA - 1.0
10.PANASONIC - Vakio

 ~~~ (probably) not of our world ~~~
1.WINDY & CARL - Portal
2.MAIN - Hz
3.LABRADFORD - A Stable Reference
4.HOEDh - Hymnvs
5.SLOWDIVE - Pygmalion
6.RACHEL'S - Handwriting
7.CUL DE SAC - I Don't Want to Go To Bed
8.FLYING SAUCER ATTACK - Further
9.STARS OF THE LID - Music For Nitrous Oxide
10.FLIES INSIDE THE SUN - An Audience of Others (Including Herself)
11.ROY MONTGOMERY - Scenes from the South Island
12.LUCID - Baby Labyrinthian
13.HARMONY ROCKETS - Paralyzed Mind of the Archangel Void
14.HAIR & SKIN TRADING CO. - Psychedeliche Musique
15.BOWERY ELECTRIC - Bowery Electric
16.AFTER THE FLOOD - After the Flood
17.SUFI - Life's Rising
18.LOREN MAZZACANE - 9th Avenue
19.MEDUSA CYCLONE - Medusa Cyclone
20.BARDO POND - Big Laughing Jym

 ~~~  "Why Do You Think they Stopped Calling it Pop?" ~~~
1.SCOTT WALKER - Tilt
2.SWERVEDRIVER - Ejector Seat Reservation
3.LORELEI - Everyone Must Touch the Stove
4.LONG FIN KILLIE - Houdini
5.MERCURY REV - See You on the Other Side
6.HELIUM - Dirt of Luck
7.MOVIETONE - Movietone
8.BUGSKULL - Phantasies and Senseitions / Crock (sndtrk)
9.BOO RADLEYS - Wake Up!
10(tie.) PRAM - Sargasso Sea / WITCH HAZEL - Landlocked

 ~~~ Nice/Normal Guys Sometimes Finish First ~~~
1.FOR AGAINST - Mason's California Lunch Room
2.DART - 36 Cents an Hour
3.BAY - Alison-Rae
4.THE ROPERS - All the Time
5.RED HOUSE PAINTERS - Ocean Beach

               ~~~     EPs:    ~~~
1.GASTR DEL SOL - Harp Factory on Lake St.
2.STEREOLAB - Music For the Amorphous Body Study Center
3.QUICKSPACE SUPERSPORT - Superplus!
4.shiFt - A Folding Sieve
5.SWERVEDRIVER - Last Day on Earth
6.BOO RADLEYS - Find the Answer Within 1,2
7.BUTTERFLY CHILD - Flaming Burlesque
8.FLYING SAUCER ATTACK - Outdoor Miner
9.DOLDRUMS - Secret Life of Machines
10.ICE - Project: Quarantine (remixes)
11.COCTEAU TWINS - Twinlights

       ~~~    Compilations and reissues   ~~~
DISCO INFERNO - In Debt
EGGS - How Do You Like Your Lobster?
CHAMELEONS - What does Anything Mean Basically
CHAMELEONS - Script of the Bridge
CINdYTALK - Camouflage Heart

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:38:28 +0300
From: "Igor V. Vaganoff" (igo@DONWAVE.RND.SU)
Subject: subscribe


I would like to subscribe to the 4 AD mailing list.
Thank you.

igo@donwave.rnd.su
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igo@donwave.rnd.su


Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:47:47 -0600
From: Kagin Lee (klee1@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu)
Subject: Very Pleasant Neighbor


Gil Gershman  wrote:

> The opening band, Very Pleasant Neighbor,
> were worth keeping an eye on as well:quality moody noise pop in an MBV/Helium
> vein.

What records do they have out?  I really like this band, they sometimes
 remind me of the Dog Faced Hermans, and sometimes they sound like Babe
 the Blue Ox.  Sometimes like Pram, perhaps?  Anyway, ever since i lost
 contact with civilization i haven't heard anything from these folks.
 What am i missing, and where can i get 'em?

kagin


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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 20:38:05 -0500
From: Erikas Aras Napjus (erikas+@CMU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Where is the archive?


Excerpts from internet.listserv.4ad-l: 16-Jan-96 Where is the archive?
by Darryl Stephen Roy@OWLNE
> Is 4AD-L continuing to be archived?  I no longer recall the address of
> the former remailer, and nothing is available at ftp.american.edu.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.

If you can put up with terrible formatting, occasional missing

information, and my total inability to write a program which correctly
computes the date, you can try my experimental archive at:


It runs back to November, 1994 (more or less, slightly more less). Much
to my amazement, a few web crawlers have also indexed the whole damned
thing, so you can often find prolific posters to 4ad-l located there via
web searches.


------------------------------

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 18:57:34 EST
From: Derek Innocent (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD UK Mail Order


>I just recieved the Additions/deletions sheet for 4AD as well as the Mail
>Order Subscription Form.
>
>I have TWO questions :
>
>Will 4AD send me EVERY  new stuff on CD (this being the format I prefer) from
>january 96 to the date I cancel my subsciption? Does his include Cd singles?
>
>Sorry to bother you guys but IT IS a great deal of money since I live in
Mexico.
>
>
>Pepe Garcia Camil

Answer - yes to both questions. If you tick CDs only, that's precisely what
you'll get. If you tick CDs preferred, you will get that + any vinyl releases
not issued on CD (eg the rumoured series of ltd edition 10" eps)

- Dez

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 21:08:45 -0800
From: Lab User (labuser@DEPAUL.EDU)
Subject: 4AD question


Is Tsunami on 4AD now that liqourice is a label member???  How did Jenny
toomey wind up on 4AD?  Also, is the collaboration between Ian Masters
and Warren Defever, Esp Summer, going to be a 4AD release???

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 22:28:52 -0600
From: John Monroe (5ES8MONROEJ@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU)
Subject: Drum, send my Vaughan Oliver book !


and really, apologies to this list, but this person will not return
any mail, and has my Vaughan Oliver book.  any ideas on how to get a
reply out of someone who you give money to, in good faith, to purchase
you a Vauaghan Oliver book and then states they have it, but have
refused to send it for a _year_ ???  so, as i can get no reply out of
this person, i figured i would have to write where she reads, again!

i do apologize to all but one of you...

------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:31:46 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Toomey/Tsunami/ESP/Latest Release Schedule


        Is _Lovelife_ to be the name of the new Lush LP, then?

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:43:30 -0600
From: goo goo goo joob (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: RHP (mbv)


tito (not the man) scribblied:
--I just heard the most fucked-up thing this morning.
--
--Someone posted a note here saying that they heard that RHP signed to RCA
--and the album would be out this spring.  I mentioned that to a friend of
--mine who told me that he heard that RCA had an offer on the table (which
--would have paid 4AD back for the money THEY spend on this new album, by
--the way), and they called 4AD to find out the 'poop' on Mark and 4AD just
--slagged Mark off completely, so RCA backed out.  Really shitty, if you
--ask me!
--
--Rick

and thank you rick for posting that that many times. now we *really* know
how shitty 4ad are. thanks for getting the point across.
.j.

an upcoming tvt/warp comp. end of january. new tracks. techno tracks. has
anyone else heard anything about this?!? they heard about it in that good
ole' rag melody maker. if some kind uk listie could read their rags this
week and let us know, i think it would be much appreciated. thanks! :)

---
joroses@mail.utexas.edu                http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~joanna
andover '94
-
Syndicated columnist Dave Barry says that "those weird string of letters
that have started showing up everywhere in newspaper stories,
advertisements, TV shows, etc., the ones that look like
http//www/clamsucker.doo.wah"  are "code instructions to Dan Rather from
his home planet."