Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 20:56:14 -0800
>> i think "university" is kristen's best work for the muses...very
thought out, great vocals and everything. as for "red heaven", i didn't
like it too much at first. i only liked "furious" and then i'd change
the cd but then i listened to it more in its entirety and noticed that
it's a pretty good cd. "pearl" is a great song...a lot of it is if you
give this cd a chance, i think. i got "the real ramona" as a gift from a
friend and loved it, which was then i started picking up their other
Yeah, that's the thing with Red Heaven -- when I first listened to it, I
liked Furious but it seemed to decline from there. But as I reached the
last song, something clicked and I could see the album as a whole, and
its enticing sense of distance and ineffable mystery. It fits in well with
what Throwing Muses are all about.
The best album of 1995: Red House Painters, _Ocean Beach_, hands down.
Also the best album 4AD have ever released.
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 21:14:13 -0800
On Sun, 14 Jan 1996, Tony Ting wrote:
> The below is in Spainish. Can anyone help me by roughly telling me what it
> is all about. It is about postage fees?
That's SPANISH even though its mother country is not Span, but yeah. It's
about postage fees.
> **********Recuerda que al pedido debes sumarle 250pts por gastos de
> empaquetado y envio (350pts si realizas el pedido contrareembolso. En
> pedidos contrareembolso correos recarga un 0.5% del valor del pedido).
Remember you should submit 250 pesetas for postage fees. (350
pesetas if you need a [cash?] order. In the case of cash orders, the post
office charges a 0.5% fee).
> Los discos se envian como PAQUETES POSTALES certificados. Recibiras una
> notificacion de la llegada del paquere en tu domicilio y deberas pasar a
> recogerlo por tu oficina de correos.
The records come in certified postal packages. You will receive a notice
of the arrival of the package at your house and you should pass it along
to your post office.
> SIEMPRE QUE HAGAS UN PEDIDO NO OLVIDES INDICAR LA FORMA DE PAGO(GIRO POSTAL,
> CONTRAREEMBOLSO O CHEQUE BANCARIO). PUEDES HACER TUS PEDIDOS POR CARTA,
> TELELFONO O FAZ A LA DIRECCION Y TELELFONO DE MARID. ************
Always when you make an order, don't forget to indicate the form of
payment (postal order, cash, or cheque). You can make orders by credit
card, phone, or fax to the address and phone of MARID [sic].
No es de nada.
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 10:22:48 -0500
Mailing List, sorry for the duplication.
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 10:39:23 -0500
So I am finally back from my trip to Japan. First, I must say thanks
to everyone who gave me hints of where to shop. It helped a lot! I found
a whole slew of stuff both relevant and not to these lists (I only cross-
posted to two!), and I thought I'd, well, brag. So here goes ...
Echo and the Bunnymen: "Never Stop (Discotheque)/The Original Cutter"
Echo and the Bunnymen: "Rescue/Simple Stuff"
My Bloody Valentine: "To Here Knows When/Swallow"
My Bloody Valentine: "No Place To Go/Moonlight"
Jesus and Mary Chain: "Upside Down/Vegetable Man"
Jesus and Mary Chain: "Never Understand/Suck"
Stone Roses: "Sally Cinnamon/Here It Comes"
Jesus and Mary Chain: "You Trip Me Up" b/w "Just Out Of Reach" & "Boyfriend's
My Bloody Valentine: _Geek_ EP
My Bloody Valentine: _The New Record By ..._ EP
Stone Roses: "Sally Cinnamon"
_CDs_ (only a few of note listed)
that new Stone Roses crap (_Crimson Tonight_ and "Begging You")
and some other miscellany that I could have gotten anywhere
I believe the major finds here are the three old MBV items (although
musically there are incredibly bad) and the JAMC singles. The three
Colourbox 12-inches were purchased for about $3 apiece!!!
Ok. Braggin' done. It is now time to sleep and all that.
By the way, one store I went in had the first Stone Roses single,
"So Young/Tell Me" for what amounted to about $190!!!
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 14:11:06 EST
If anyone's interested, in today's UK singles chart Lush went in at 21, Frank
Black at 37
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 17:06:32 -0500
>This is the later version of Shine On, and while still brilliant is a lot
>more commercial and washed-out than the original - find it on the
>creatively titled House of Love lp on Creation cat no RTD/CRE 9-63. This is
>not the one on Creation that I talked about before - that has a picture of
>Guy and one of the other members on the cover. This one has all five (count
>'em) members and is slightly soft-focus (hey, Guy isn't what you would call
>beautiful IRL!). One of the members in the photo is a girl - I actually
>didn't know that there'd ever been a lassie in the group... Anyway, this
>has the original Shine On, the first Love and the funny Hedonist (who's
>that about Guy?!). My copy has a Pacific Imports sticker on it, so I think
>it may have been produced for the American market. It is, after all, all
>the early singles and their b-sides I think.
You know, the fact that HoL never really bothered with album titles makes
this all a bit confusing. RTD/CRE 9-63 was released on Rough Trade Germany
under license from Creation and features tracks from the first few singles
and the Real Animal mini-LP. Track listing:
1. Shine On
4. Real Animal
5. The Hedonist
7. Nothing to Me
9. On the Hill
10. Loneliness is a Gun (track listing actually says "Loneliness IN a Gun")
Shine On was re-recorded for the Fontana album, as was The Hedonist (which
became just "Hedonist").
The girl in question in Andrea Heukamp (guitar/vocals), who had to leave the
band and go back to Germany because of immigration problems. She sang On the
Hill and later made a guest appearance on Babe Rainbow.
I don't know how hard this is to find - I got my copy at New Rose in Paris
but haven't seen it anywhere else since.
Their "proper" first album came out on Creation as CRELP 034.
>well, as I stated in my original post, I had been watching an old episode of
>120minutes from about 3 years ago when I seen the video of HoL's "Feel". I
>still do have it on tape, and plan on keeping it for sometime, but do not as
>of yet have another VCR to dub it - not yet anyway!!
It would be good if there was a video comp available. Here in Canada,
MuchMusic showed a spotlight on the band once and I stupidly neglected to
on now: The High Llamas - Gideon Gaye
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 18:11:37 -0500
Oval 'systemich' - thier first album (that I know of)
is very smooth and mechanical and ambient and
sweet and wierd.
Oval 'dickont' - thier secont album (that I know of)
is smooth and totally unproductable with respect
to what is around that next corner.
Mouse on Mars - Vulvaland, reviewed many time's on this list, I think.
"Mouse on Mars. Taste it all! And eat as much as you can.",
as the liner notes say. It's been a while since I've heard this
so I can't review it, but I listened to it for a long time when
I first heard it. I have the newer 'IAORA TAHITI', but I can't
remember what it sounds like.
Can anyone tell me about the new project featuring someone from MoM and
someone from Oval?
Oh, and what about that thing with someone from Seefeel and the
guy from Locust?
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 17:35:19 -0600
SIGN OFF 4AD-L
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 19:32:02 -0500
Anyone who hasn't heard the new Vangelis CD, _Voices_ is missing a treat.
(well, one of the songs, anyway.) This new CD which came out a few days ago
features her highness as well as Paul Young and Caroline Lavelle on different
I've just listened to the Stina Nordenstam track "Ask The Mountains" for about
the 50th time in the last 3 days, and it is amazing! It's not exactly Stina's
typical music; it appears Vangelis did the music, and Stina provided the
lyrics and the vocals. It begins very sparse, vocally--it nevertheless
resonates through you as it carefully builds (the song lasts 7:55!). It
actually starts out with crickets; and what sounds like a wolf or bird howling
in the distnace. I think this is one of the most beautiful songs Stina has
done. It's certainly as well-crafted as anything from _memories of a color_
or _and she closed her eyes_. Very sad; yet beautiful. A heavy bass
underlies the whole song while sprinkled throughout are reverberating
synthesizers and the soft plinks of a piano which make this song more haunting
than anything I've heard in ages.
As for the rest of the CD; I could take it or leave. Mostly, leave it, I
suppose; as it sounds like Vangelis hasn't progressed much since he did the
music to Blade Runner in 1982. However, this one song is worth the price of
the CD. Stina rocks my world and her new and improved house of worship should
be up anytime now; complete with Shockwave animations.
BTW I got engaged in San Antonio over the weekend!!! (no, not to Stina) You
guys are the first people I've had a chance to tell. Wish me luck and if you
want to see what she/I look like; check out my web page. (same address as the
ftp site on my .sig)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 18:52:33 -0800
Here is his e-mail address, by popular demand: firstname.lastname@example.org. I
know this makes me 'responsible' for any flaming that might ensue, but if
the guy wants to print his e-mail address in the magazine itself, that's
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 14:03:17 EST-11
I understand that this EP was never released on CD by 4AD, so I
gather it is only available on vinyl or cassette. Does anyone
actually have any idea how many copies were pressed. I have yet to
see it anywhere and am wondering how rare this actually is.
Appreciate any info. Thanks guys.
Kristin says: "The Rabbit's Dying"
Tony says: "The Rabbit's Dead Kristin"
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 22:27:06 -0600
At 07:56 PM 1/13/96 -0700, you wrote:
> Regarding einexile's opinions zelzah said:
>>>>um ...NO!!! I don't think so, why is it that you say that?
>>>Wow, that is some kind of arrogance! How can you say "NO!!!" to someone's
> and zelzah replied:
>>...i just did.
> the question wasn't whether or not it was *possible* but how can
>you regard yourself so high and mighty that you think it's appropriate that
>you tell everyone "NO!!!" to someone's opinions. ... and besides, i'm a
>little confused, does your "NO!!!" mean that no, einexile does not believe
>the things that he wrote? ;)
okay, okay, I give in... *NO!!!* meant No, as *in my opinion*, NO, Belly
does not suck. And I am not telling *everyone* no, just einexile. I don't
remember me saying anything about me being *high and mighty*, either.
-There, happy? :)