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Subject: i'm sorry
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:33:43 +0900
From: Masaya Toyokawa (mtoyokaw@NRIA.AFFRC.GO.JP)
Subject: Re: 4ad: deal on hnia - hiiyh
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:26:13 +0900
From: Masaya Toyokawa (mtoyokaw@NRIA.AFFRC.GO.JP)
Subject: School Pride
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 14:15:18 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: An Article
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:43:39 -0800
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Hector Zazou/Saint Etienne
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 11:51:59 -0500
From: "druzya s P." (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Hector Zazou
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 12:49:04 -0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Interesting Bay Area Events
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:05:00 EST
From: Timothy Kowalsky (gothicpoet@TORCHLIGHT.COM)
Subject: Simon Raymonde/ Drowning Craze
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:47:00 PST
From: bahman (IZZYW5B@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: new slowdive (just kidding) "doom generation" sdtk: thumbs
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 19:05:08 -0500
From: redacted (unknown@unknown)
Subject: SORRY.. BUT DOES THIS LIST WORK IN DIGEST FORM?
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 19:09:57 -0500
From: redacted (unknown@unknown)
Subject: Attention Adam Cooper! or anyone with his address!!
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:46:43 -0600
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Re: new slowdive (just kidding) "doom generation" sdtk: thumbs up!
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:56:16 -0600
From: Jon Corbett Wetzel (jcw0003@JOVE.ACS.UNT.EDU)
Subject: The Lillies
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:17:22 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Heavenly Bodies
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:29:24 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Hector Zazou and Harold Budd
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:40:59 -0800
From: Peter Repetti (repetti@NATURE.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Breathless
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:45:00 PST
From: Foothill High School Associated Student Body
Subject: Re: Breathless
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 20:16:56 -0500
From: TS61822@AOL.COM
Subject: Some 4AD, some not
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 20:37:43 EST
From: Derek Innocent (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Adam's My Name, Mail Fraud's My Game... Sucka!
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 19:10:00 -0700
From: adam (whirl@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: OZZY BLOWS GOAT
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:32:58 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: OZZY BLOWS GOAT
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:20:13 -0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)

Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:33:43 +0900
From: Masaya Toyokawa (mtoyokaw@NRIA.AFFRC.GO.JP)
Subject: i'm sorry


I didn't intend to send to the list.
masaya

Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:26:13 +0900
From: Masaya Toyokawa (mtoyokaw@NRIA.AFFRC.GO.JP)
Subject: Re: 4ad: deal on hnia - hiiyh


hello,

i'm really interested.
can you send it to japan?
i will cover your cost or trade with something you are interested.

At  7:57 PM 95.11.17 -0700, drew schwickerath wrote:
>well, i just found a copy of his name is alive's "home is in your
>head/dirt eaters" cd on ryko.  it is only $3.99.  i already have a
>copy, but if there is anyone who is interested in it, i'll go back
>tomorrow (or perhaps even sunday) to pick it up.  $3.99 + s/h
>(probably a couple bucks - i'll check).  (please route requests to
>schwicke@cs.colostate.edu, rather than to the list.  danke.)
>
>this public service announcement brought to you by - drew

masaya

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mtoyokaw@nria.affrc.go.jp


Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 14:15:18 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: School Pride


Just when I was really pissed off at school for raising tuition, cutting
programs, etc., I called the front desk of one of the residence halls
(666-6183) and, much to my surprise, the tones my phone made played the
beginning of the vocals to His Name Is Alive's _Fossil_.  God, I never
thought ol' USF would be hip enough to specifically choose a number so that
it would play an HNIA song!  I have faith once again.

Jake,
who shouldn't have this much free time

Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:43:39 -0800
From: Snarlo (repetti@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: An Article


>
>Hey folks...
>I saw THIS article in "Freebase Magazine" concerning Frank Black's new cd:
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>
>New York:  The release of Frank Black's long awaited CD, the Cult of the
>Ray is coming soon, folks.  January 30th is the new scheduled release
>date.  Filled with tons of fast and furious songs, it should be a pleaser
>to all Frank Black and Pixies fans.  The cryptic lyrics of "Kicked in the
>Taco" leave us wondering if the Pixies are planning on getting back
>together after all... Here are the lyrics to that song:
>
>       "A Band broke up a while ago,
>       The lead singer was kicked in the Taco.
>       A Band broke up a while ago,
>       The lead singer was kicked in the Taco.
>       The band had a name like dixies,        (Pixies perhaps?)
>       The singer was very frank.              (Frank BLACK??)
>       The bassist once was married,           (Mrs. Murphy?)
>       The drummer drove a tank.
>       The guitarist was a spaceman,
>       And always felt a little brackish.
>       The lead singer was kicked in the Taco,
>       The lead singer was kicked in the Taco,
>       The bassist joined a new breed of folks, (new breed... the Breeders?)
>       The others went to the bar,             (The Martinis?>)
>       Mr. Frances was a runaway spaceship,
>       And well now here we are.
>       The lead singer was kicked in the Taco.
>       Now fans oh fans they are real sad,
>       But don't worry, little Tommy.
>       The solo careers are hanging on a tether,
>       In 2 more months, they'll be back together.
>       And they will be a band once more,
>       And nobody will get kicked in the Taco."
>
>Well, the stuff in the parentheses are our comments... not part of the song.
>Could the Pixies be getting back together?  And what does being kicked in
>the Taco refer to???  We can only sit back and wait... until then, here's
>saluting a great new Frank Black CD.
>__________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>Pretty freaky article, eh?
>Well... I gotta run to class now... speculate as you will.
>
>Puck!
>
>
>


Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 11:51:59 -0500
From: "druzya s P." (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Hector Zazou/Saint Etienne


Quoth cz:
>There are two releases of Sahara Blue but what i heard was this:
>David Sylvian did not appear on the US release because Sylvian's record
>label did not allow it.  In fact he does appear on the album (to a lesser
>degree) credited as "Mr X".  I think the songs in which his presence was
>unmistakable (i.e., the record company could sue) were removed and replaced
>by other songs NOT by Siouxsie but by our esteemed Dead Can Dance duo.

Hmmm...I thought it was unclear who Mr X was, exactly. DCD duo esteemed? Not
by everyone. But the bit about his record company being litigious proved to
be quite an omen, since they are now suing Cindy Crawford for using a Rain
Tree Crow song in her workout tape without permission. That's gonna be
interesting.

>btw, do all of these come with a bonus disc, or did i make an
>unwitting find?  the remix disc isn't mentioned anywhere on the packaging.

I think initial copies come with the remix disc. Is it me, or does "Too
Young to Die" just seem like "You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone" with
the singles from "Tiger Bay" tacked on, plus one new song? How much thought
and effort did that take - about five minutes' worth?

>unfortunately, it looks as if this is the end for etienne.

For now, anyway, is what the band seem to be implying. Sarah will be doing a
solo record (hasn't started yet) and it's not clear what label it would be
on. Bob and Pete will continue with different singers under a different
name, but it seems the idea is that 'tienne as we know them will return. I hope.

Larry

...okh da, okh da...


Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 12:49:04 -0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Hector Zazou


>Quoth cz:
>>There are two releases of Sahara Blue but what i heard was this:
>>David Sylvian did not appear on the US release because Sylvian's record
>>label did not allow it.  In fact he does appear on the album (to a lesser
>>degree) credited as "Mr X".  I think the songs in which his presence was
>>unmistakable (i.e., the record company could sue) were removed and replaced
>>by other songs NOT by Siouxsie but by our esteemed Dead Can Dance duo.
>
>Hmmm...I thought it was unclear who Mr X was, exactly. DCD duo esteemed? Not
>by everyone.

You'll eat those words one day (the ones about DCD), when you see the light.
 Regarding the Sylvian/X connection, you might notice that the songs that
Mr. X appears on are also credited as being co-written by Sylvian.  I guess
he can write but not perform songs with others according to his contract.

>But the bit about his record company being litigious proved to
>be quite an omen, since they are now suing Cindy Crawford for using a Rain
>Tree Crow song in her workout tape without permission. That's gonna be
>interesting.

I can't believe that!  Well, one, i can't believe that Cindy Crawford has
heard of Rain Tree Crow and, two, i can't believe they're suing her rather
than just saying "pay up".  Which song was it by the way?  Someone has to
fess up to owning this tape.

-cz    ... step, two, three, four, breath, two, three, four ...  peace
through culture ... two three four .. ad nausium

Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:05:00 EST
From: Timothy Kowalsky (gothicpoet@TORCHLIGHT.COM)
Subject: Re: Interesting Bay Area Events


Can anyone tell me if there is a 4AD site on the WWW?
(I mean one put up by the actual label?)

If any knows of any good web sites for 4AD set up by
others, I'd be interested too.

You can email me at gothicpoet@iquest.net


Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:47:00 PST
From: bahman (IZZYW5B@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Simon Raymonde/ Drowning Craze



Does anyone have any info on Simon Raymonde's pre-Cocteau band,
The Drowning Craze. I saw advertisements for it in the
Record Collector for only 2 or 3 pounds a number of years ago.

Has anyone heard it? Is it any good? Info appreciated.

your fine friend, Bahman


Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 19:05:08 -0500
From: redacted (unknown@unknown)
Subject: Re: new slowdive (just kidding) "doom generation" sdtk: thumbs

              up!

...I heard the sdtrk has CT, slowdive and Curve...what songs are they? Are
they new?........in suspense...Dave


Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 19:09:57 -0500
From: redacted (unknown@unknown)
Subject: SORRY.. BUT DOES THIS LIST WORK IN DIGEST FORM?


        If anyone knows how to put 4AD-L into automatic digest, you can
email me directly at  ig88@bennigton.edu    Thank you so much to the kind
soul that helps ....Dave

Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:46:43 -0600
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Attention Adam Cooper! or anyone with his address!!


I am looking for Adam Cooper. I have no other recourse but email to find him.
I sent him a sizeable amount of money in return for some things from his
"saddest cd sale of all time".  He cashed my check, and now I want my stuff!!!!

please help me prevent mail fraud!!!

lisaroo cooley
st5co@jetson.uh.edu

Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:56:16 -0600
From: Jon Corbett Wetzel (jcw0003@JOVE.ACS.UNT.EDU)
Subject: Re: new slowdive (just kidding) "doom generation" sdtk: thumbs up!


On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, redacted wrote:

> ...I heard the sdtrk has CT, slowdive and Curve...what songs are they? Are
> they new?........in suspense...Dave
>
As far as I know, all songs on the soundtrack are old....Not sure of the
exact groups you mentioned songs, but did look it over because it has a
Verve song on it (an old 'Already There')......I am almost 99% positive
that the rest is old......

Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:17:22 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: The Lillies


Just wondering just how rare (or how many of you) actually have this
flexi-disc, and how much it's going for these days (magazine and flexi).

I just found one and picked it up and was wondering if I got a good deal.

Thaks!
-Blue
blubelknol@aol.com

Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:29:24 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Heavenly Bodies


just stopped by a local store recently and seen the tape Heavenly Bodies
"Celestial" in the import bin for $9.95.  Sorry, no CD (which I already have
and think it's pretty damn good!).

And since it is out-of-print, and there was talk a week or 2 about it here on
the list, I thought there might be someone out there who would really like to
own at least the tape.  So if one of you out there would like me to get it
for them, please respond via private e-mail.

-Blue
blubelknol@aol.com

Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:40:59 -0800
From: Peter Repetti (repetti@NATURE.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Hector Zazou and Harold Budd


I saw a new cd by Senor Zazou and Mr. Budd the other day, called
"Glyph".  Anyone have any details what this is like and if there are any
other of our favorite artists contributing to it?

Peter


Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:45:00 PST
From: Foothill High School Associated Student Body
Subject: Breathless


Does anyone have any information on whether or not Breathless is still
recording?  This is Dominic Appleton's band (TMC's "I am the cosmos", and
other songs vocalist).  I have the "Between Happiness & Heartache" album,
the "Over and Over" CD single.   I was wondering what you people think of
this band.  You can respond to me at the following address.

Thanks,

Layne MC at "fhsasb@shastalink.k12.ca.us"

ps.  I have extra copies of BH&H.

Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 20:16:56 -0500
From: TS61822@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Breathless


should be a new breathless cd out in mid spring so i am told.


Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 20:37:43 EST
From: Derek Innocent (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Some 4AD, some not


Hi all, here is the first of approximately weekly posts in which I shall rabbit
on about various music topics

All this recent debate about 'how to save 4AD' - lighten up. It's only a record
label. There's been some excellent stuff released this year, too, by the
company. Give me Tarnation, Mojave 3 or the Amps over the excruciatingly dull
Cocteau Twins any day. They've long since lapsed into self-parody - Four
Calendar Cafe was atrocious. Anyway, enough of that.

Pacer is a patchy record, but when it's good (such as the title track) it's the
equal of anything Kim's been involved in. When it's not good, it's still a fun
rough'n'ready punk rock record. I saw the Amps play Sheffield back in September
supporting Guided By Voices. They were very much like their LP - ramshackle in
places, remarkable in others.

NoMeansNo's newie is a trifle disappointing. Lyrically, it's still up there with
their greatest, but there's a little too much wackiness and not enough of the
gut-wrenching despair or stomach-churning anger of their best work (cf The
River, Dad, Joyful Reunion, Victory). But they remain, with Fugazi and Girls
Against Boys, one of the very few punk-influenced bands who don't sound woefully
anachronistic in the nineties.

Autechre's Tri Repetae struck me as being pretty bland on first listen, but it
worms it's way into your subconscious eventually. They have a knack of reducing
techno to it's cold, mechanical elements, and yet conjuoring up something warm
and organic. That is some feat. I think I prefer the Anvil Vapre ep. There's a
bit more edge to it.

It's been out a few weeks, but Dubstar's Disgraceful is an LP I come back to a
lot. According to a recent MM interview, the band members are 4AD obsessives,
but the music they make has more in common with the likes of St Etienne or the
Pet Shop Boys. There are a couple of irritating throwaway pop tunes on the
record, but when it strikes a more melancholy tone, such as on Stars, Just A
Girl She Said and especially The Day I See You Again, it's almost
heartbreakingly beautiful. I'm going to see them live next week for the first
time. I'll be interested to see how they translate live.

David Holmes has released the epic No Man's Land from his This Film's Crap Let's
Slash The Seats LP, and it's one of the greatest tracks of the year. A 13 minute
instrumental, it combines an eery tolling bell, with sinister synth washes, and
military drumming to bring an image of war-scarred landscapes, and utter
desolation. The album from which it comes was released in the summer, and is a
truly essential buy - another highlight being Gone featuring Sarah Cracknell
from St Etienne on lead vocal (inspired by the Shangri-Las' I Can Never Go Home
Any More).

Finally, a few words about Meiso, the latest album by DJ Krush from Tokyo on Mo
Wax, a label that can do no wrong in my eyes. It marks a change in direction
from his previous album, the purely instrumental Strictly Turntablized that came
out at the beginning of the year, in that it includes several rap tracks amongst
the breaking and scratching hip hop instrumentals that are his trademark. Some
critics have criticized this move, but I think they make for a more varied and
interesting album. The raps aren't groundbreaking, but neither are they
cliche-ridden. But the best track by far is Duality, the duet with Josh Davis
aka DJ Shadow. Nine minutes of hip hop heaven as the two of them duel with the
decks to create something that is blissful, but also vaguely threatening. I was
a bit disappointed that the album doesn't include any of the drum 'n' bass
excursions that appeared on his last ep, but if the intention was to cross over
to a wider rap market, then branching out into jungle would probably be
commercial suicide in the States - a country that discovered punk rock in 1991
for fuck's sake!

Anyway that's all from me for now. Still waiting for a release date for
Kristin's Holy ep here in the UK. And I'm already looking forward to the new
Muses LP.

        - Dez

Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 19:10:00 -0700
From: adam (whirl@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Adam's My Name, Mail Fraud's My Game... Sucka!


>I am looking for Adam Cooper. I have no other recourse but email to find him.
>I sent him a sizeable amount of money in return for some things from his
>"saddest cd sale of all time".  He cashed my check, and now I want my stuff!!!!

>please help me prevent mail fraud!!!

Hello Miss Tactful, I suppose you have not received my posting to YOUR
personal Email address requesting your snail mail address. Your package has
been sitting here for weeks just waiting for your ever so kind reply (Sorry
I lost your address in the first place!) I'll gladly forgive your flippant
post to the whole list if you accept the magnificent new Ozzy Osbourne
promo I think I'm going to include in your package. Yes ma'm, Ozzy's back,
weaving his metal magic to an audience that consider the local 7-11 parking
lot home and laced up mocassins proper footwear. You Young Missy will feel
the power of the OZ! Forget this fancy smancy talk about all this fluffy
stuffy 4AD nonsense this new OZZY flat out RAWKS. You'll learn what a riff
really is, what shredding means, and how to express yourself through the
simple but beautiful act of banging your head.

Feel the NOIZE baby
Adam

RANDY RHODES RULES......R.I.P.

Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:32:58 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: OZZY BLOWS GOAT


Listen, I read a post stating to the effect that metal is music and
4-ad is namby pamby.  At the expense of sounding
narrow-minded.....METAL SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't need some long haired, numbskull screaming while some freak
guitar guy does a 90 minute guitar solo. As for banging ones
head.......No wonder metal heads are so stupid.

                                Brian


Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:20:13 -0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: OZZY BLOWS GOAT


>At the expense of sounding
>narrow-minded.....METAL SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is certainly *not* the place for a butting of heads over whether metal
rules or sucks.  Please take this discussion OFF of the list and argue to
your heart's content.

-cz             ... i'm personally much more interested in whether God
exists  ...


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