Subject: Re: "Another Day"/Apartments
Subject: Re: Review: QuickSpace Supersport
Subject: Re: "Another Day"/Apartments
Subject: Re: unpopular 4ad albums
Subject: Re: Review: QuickSpace Supersport
Subject: Re: Mojave 3 and TMC box set
Subject: Looking for a trade
Subject: Re: peng
Subject: Cath Carroll (the woman) and Unrest
Subject: off my listlisty shelf...
Subject: lots of Bark Psychosis info (and 4AD linkages...)
Subject: Re: unpopular 4ad albums
Subject: Re: RHP
Subject: Re: Mojave 3 and TMC box set
Subject: Re: The The
Subject: Re: MSG: *4ad-ISH*
Subject: Re: Hector Zazou?
Subject: new slowdive (just kidding) "doom generation" sdtk: thumbs up!
Subject: one of those annoying i can't find your address messages
Subject: L' Faith Healers (was Re: Review: QuickSpace Supersport)
Subject: Re: The The
Subject: Re: Cath Carroll (the woman) and Unrest
Subject: CD Europe
Subject: Re: Predictions...
Subject: Re: in defence of....einexile!
Subject: Re: This mortal coil
Subject: Re: in a daze, i make this prediction...
Subject: Pictures of Lily (was Re: suggestions?)
Subject: Predictions...
Subject: NEW THIS MORTAL COIL??
Subject: Re. RHPs and Mark K. and 4AD
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance - bootlegs?
Subject: No, I'm SortSol!
Subject: RHP Videos
Subject: Dead Can Dance Double?
Subject: Re: 4AD catalogue
Subject: Double Dead Can Dance
Subject: predictions/Dilworth
Subject: kranky stuff/Stereolab
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance - boot info
Subject: Re: unpopular 4ad albums
Subject: Re: 4AD catalogue
Subject: air miami
Subject: Re: Mojave 3 and TMC box set
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Subject: Merchandise List
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Subject: Re: unpopular 4ad albums
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Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance - bootlegs?
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Subject: Re: Mojave 3 and TMC box set
Subject: Tim Buckley (Re: "Another Day"/Apartments)
Subject: Re: Predictions...
Subject: sinkhole
Subject: Re: Cath Carroll (the woman)
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance - bootlegs?
Subject: Sorry!
Subject: Legendary Pink Box?
Subject: sleazy e and the Re: Merchandise List
Subject: non-cocteau liz frazer vocals
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Subject: Re: Mojave 3 and TMC box set
Subject: Re. DCD Bootlegs
Subject: Re: Minty 23 or the 1996(?) Calender
Subject: Re: non-cocteau liz frazer vocals
Subject: Ooops, I meant "with tomorrow" not "another day"
Subject: NO WAY MAN; _BLOOD_ R U L E S !!!!!!!!
Subject: Another Day versions
Subject: Re: Hector Zazou?
Subject: Naughty No. 23
Subject: Re: Re. RHPs and Mark K. and 4AD
Subject: Re: Legendary Pink Box? (long)
Subject: Re: Naughty No. 23
Subject: Re: Predictions... (fwd)
Subject: Pale Saints / Tom Waits
Subject: Re: non-cocteau liz frazer vocals
Subject: Mary Margaret O'Hara
Subject: Re: non-cocteau liz frazer vocals
Subject: Re: Hector Zazou?
Subject: Fave TMC tunes
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:28:01 -0800
>Jake wrote:
>
>>>not to be nitpicky (i.e. you probably already know this but just in
>case...)
>"another day" was originally Tim Buckley. "Mr. Somewhere" was the
>Apartments.<<
>
>"Another Day" was written by Roy Harper.
Well, Tim Buckley, Roy Harper... they're both 70's folk singers with one
syllable first names and two syllable last names, etc., etc....
As for the Apartments, they have a
>fairly new release out that is quite available domestically (U.S. that is).
>It is quite good as well.
I've seen the new release, but I was wondering specifically about the
release that "Mr. Somewhere" was on. Any ideas?
Jake, who's pretty fuckin' sick of hearing about the Qin dynasty for the
last three hours
Jake Reichert | I used to be indecisive/
[email protected] | But now I'm not so sure...
| -The The
--------------------------------------------------------------------
"LONELY IS AS LONELY DOES"
B.C. Gilbert/G. Lewis ------------------------ The Happy Family
A=====================================V Bulgarian Voices | Pixies
| | | ____ | Bauhaus | Frazier Chorus
| /| | /\ | | \ | Michael Brook | Spirea X
| / | | / \ | | \ | The Breeders | Colourbox
| / | | / \ | | | | Dead Can Dance | Dif Juz
| /___| | /______\ | | | | Throwing Muses | The The
| | | / \ | | / | Clan of Xymox | Rema-Rema
| | | / \ | |___ / | Cocteau Twins | Liquorice
A=====================================M Lisa Germano | M|A|R|R|S
X Mal Deutschland | Dance Chapter | Insides | The Birthday Party
A.R. Kane | Rowland S. Howard & Lydia Lunch | C.V.O | Air Miami
Ultra Vivid Scene | Unrest | Pieter Nooten/Michael Brook | Swallow
That Dog. | Psychotic Tanks | Lisa Gerrard | Last Dance | Lush
Modern English | Budd/Fraser/Guthrie/Raymonde | This Mortal Coil
The Wolfgang Press | Richenel | His Name Is Alive | Pale Saints
The Glee Club --------------------------------- Colin Newman
"LONELY IS AN EYESORE"
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:27:19 -0500
14, 95 10:48:52 am
> Andrew Norman wrote:
> >does anyone know what the rhythm section are doing
> >now? Dilworth has drummed for Stereolab
Pursuing his other job as rock photographer, most likely. He takes photos for
MM and NME, I think. See also Unrest's Cath Carroll ep.
> And hey! Whatever happened to the impending re-release of "L'" on
> American Records? I never saw it show up.
Umm.. what happened to any of the re-releases on American?! Stereolab's Peng
is sheer brilliance, Minxus' Pabulum maybe not.. but they've all gone missing,
regardless. "L'" was definitely reissued. I have seen it. But you wouldn't
know it from all the promotion it got. Mouse on Mars, anyone?
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:13:20 -0600
On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Jake Reichert wrote:
> Well, Tim Buckley, Roy Harper... they're both 70's folk singers with one
> syllable first names and two syllable last names, etc., etc....
>
After hearing the This Mortal Coil versions of Tim Buckley songs, I had
to get some of his stuff and found it to all be great. Try "Dream Letter"
or "Live at the Troubador"
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:15:17 -0800
At 01:59 PM 11/13/95 -0800, you wrote:
> Well, my favorite Pixies album is "Trompe Le Monde". Really, it
>is. Is there a single person here who shares that view? I noticed it was
>the only Pixies album not included in someone's "best of each year" list.
>
>How about that spat-upon bombastic brilliance that is "REV" by ultra vivid
scene? A totally overlooked release... not to mention "queer" by wolfgang
press, which many despise since it isn't retreading through their prior
styles. by the way, i've seen some of you real die-hard four ay dee fanatics
praise "The BURDEN OF MULES" (those of you fortunate to know what a vinyl
record is)...all i can say is listen to "Second Edition" (Metal Box) by
Public Image Ltd...you will understand. TOTAL derivative (not nearly as
good as PiL's masterpiece album that would very much appeal to most of you
kind list-folk, as would "The Flowers Of Romance", which kicks butt on Dead
Can Dance's later forays into moroccan/arab cultural appropriation.
Yours in love with the amps (the production is brilliant for those
enlightened enough to be sick of high gloss),
Pedro________________________________________________________________________
>= "The kids of today should defend ) "So we're complicated, so what?" =
>= themselves against the 70's!" ( - His Name Is Alive, "Why People =
>= - Mike Watt ) Disappear" =
>========================================================================
>= "If life is a performance, and I am not an actor, am I supposed to =
>= lay down and die?" - Juliana Hatfield =
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:41:48 -0800
At 11:27 PM 11/14/95 -0500, you wrote:
>> Andrew Norman wrote:
>> >does anyone know what the rhythm section are doing
>> >now? Dilworth has drummed for Stereolab
>
>Pursuing his other job as rock photographer, most likely. He takes photos for
>MM and NME, I think. See also Unrest's Cath Carroll ep.
>
>> And hey! Whatever happened to the impending re-release of "L'" on
>> American Records? I never saw it show up.
>
I have the american american reissue of "L'" by the Faith Healers, which i
think came out in august (which is when i purchased it)...the track listing
POP SONG
DELORES
SLAG
REPTILE SMILE
LOVELY
GORGEOUS BLUE (g.b.f.)
NOT A GOD
find it, it is quite excellent
beauty in subjectivity,
pedro >
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:20:55 -0800
At 12:51 PM 11/14/95 EST, you wrote:
>There is a TMC box set sitting in a local record store for $45. The shrink
>wrap is torn off but for 4 discs costing the usual $50 to $70 this is a good
>price. I think that the TMC box set is discontinued. E-mail me privately if
>you wish to buy this excellent box set.
>
>I was wondering if anyone has access to the new Mojave 3 cd on import. I've
>been combing all of the record stores in the PRovidence and Boston area and
>have been coming up empty. If anyone has access to one I will pay all
>shipping and handling and cost of the record and have my heartfelt gratitude.
>Thanks.
>
>here in the san francisco/bay area you can find mojave 3 at either amoeba
records or mod lang, both in berkeley. the area code is 510, so call
information & order it...they both do mail order, and the cd is about $21 or
so. I personally think the album is one big melodrama cal southern rock
70's country bore... but i also didn't love slowdive, so i am not the best
judge.
ep's by the Cocktoe Twins for $8.99...they do mail order also i am quite
shure, so dial area code 415 & get the num. that ep is quite interesting.
aahh, the beauty of subjectivity,
Pedro
>
>[email protected]
>
>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:50:04 -0500
I'm been searching for for the following stuff (who hasn't, right?) for
awhile and haven't seen or heard a peep about it for a long time (again, no
big surprise), and was wondering if anyone had one, or an extra they were
willing to sell or trade. I can offer a couple sealed "AVAM"'s, a few Mai
Pen Rai's, a "NO BALLS", and I also have a few "Joe Friday"'s I'm willing to
part with for the following (some of which I'm sure anyone on the list would
love to get their hands on):
Various - "The 13year Itch" - video & CD
Various - "Natures Mortes-Still Lives"
Various - "12" Anthology" (japanese thingy right?)
Wolfgang Press - "Choir" (this was a japanese thingy, like PS "Mrs. Dolphin")
His Name Is Alive - the "home" tapes
Air Miami - their "home" tapes as well (I think there were 2)
the first v/23 poster pack
any of the v/23 postcard packs
any of the v/23 calendars
again, i'm sure everyone on the list is looking for one, a couple, or all of
the items listed above. but since i haven't seen anyone ask or offer these
in awhile, i thought i'd ask. and, as always ------- PLEASE respond via
private e-mail.
much thanks,
-Blue
[email protected]
"Know who you are at every age" - CT
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:45:35 -0600
>Umm.. what happened to any of the re-releases on American?! Stereolab's Peng
>is sheer brilliance, Minxus' Pabulum maybe not.. but they've all gone missing,
>regardless. "L'" was definitely reissued.
i've seen the reissue of peng at best buy.
eric
"watch me fall apart, but leave me with my heart."
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:55:36 -0600
hey. while listening to "moves like you," a cath carroll song from the
factory days, i noticed that near the end of the song she sings "angel,
i'll walk you home. . ." that's one of the names on unrest's "perfect
teeth" cd, with cath on the cover. the album, as most of you no doubt
know, also contains the song cath carroll. are any of the other songs on
the album "inspired" by her? i would look/listen, but i traded my copy of
perfect teeth away (for the NEW cath carroll album -- coincidence? i think
NOT!).
how is the factory album in general? i have the song "moves like you" on a
comp disc, and that is it. more importantly, is it still available?
"moves like you" kicks the new album (which is still ok) into the ground,
so i'd like to hear the older stuff.
so who's keepin' my company tonight while i write my stories for Journalism?
g'bye,
eric
"why do children break toys?"
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:23:57 -0500
not knowing the etiquette here, i hope this is appropriate... do people
offer lists of different non-4AD thislisty groups here? if so, here are
some off my shelf (and i hope you will try some of these out, if you
haven't already)...
black tape for a blue girl - mushy and lushy - "lush garden within",
projekt records
blue faces (hometown band - seattle)- oh, how to describe?? - "in the
days of the lightbulb", vagrant records
faith and disease (another hometown band)- dream pop/ethereal - "fortune his
sleep" and "beauty and bitterness", ivy records
sky cries mary (yet another seattle band) - mixture between ethereal,
dreampop, and classic rock... very very very good stuff, esp the EP "exit
at the axis", "a return to the inner experience", "this timeless
turning", world dominion records
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SuJean Chon New College Student Alliance
[email protected] 941-359-4267
Developmental Psychology fax 941-359-4284
Sociology 5700 N. Tamiami Trail, Sarasota FL 34243
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 02:32:22 -0500
Jens, an all-around great guy with simply amazing taste, said:
>The only other things I know of are:
>
>Big Shot / Reserve Shot Gunman
> A-side is the album version. B-side is one of the best things they've
>ever done, a piece of all-out techno with their regular instrumentation,
>incl. guitars and real drums and only bits of keyboard. During the
>breaks, instead of samples, you get piles of feedback. Awesome, but good
>luck finding it.
>
it's "A Street Scene / Reserve Shot Gunman". Came out on cd, btw... with
really beautiful sleeve art/deep red see-through case. A.S.C is exactly the
same as on "Hex" (an album which I STILL insist is too perfect for words!).
And Jens' comments about R.S.G are all right on...
>Blue / Hex / Big Shot(?) remix
> "Blue" is more or less in the same style as the album "Hex" but more
>upbeat and with synthesized bass and drums.
'Blue" is the closest that BP will ever/should ever come to making pop. It
sounds like a v-e-r-y moody Pet Shop Boys. Doesn't mean that I don't love it
utterly - this band has yet to make a single misstep - but "Blue" isn't what
"Hex" fans are expecting. Bark Psychosis seems to travel in footsteps
parallel to A.R.Kane... mere 'pop' from either group dusts the ground with
everything else in its wake. :)
>"Hex" is incredibly noisy.
"Hex", the 'title track'(?) IS incredibly noisy - but it's probably the most
addictive bit of pure noise overdose you'll ever experience; think Princess
Dragon-Mom, Merzbow, and (Dead) His Name Is Alive - run through with
Main/Labradford flatline sensibilities.
>The remix (is it "Big Shot" or some other album track? I forget) is
>redone as all-synths. Worth picking up for the completist but there's
>nothing really good on it.
>
"Big Shot" is remixed by Rudi (A.R.Kane) Tambala - which not only makes it
essential, but also gives it tangible 4AD relevance! Yay! :-D
>Supposedly the band are still together, but they haven't released
>anything since '94.
I dunno - just saw the dreaded words 'ex-Bark Psychosis' in a Boymerang
preorder statement. :( Let's just all hold hands, cross fingers, and hope
that it's not true - since Bark Psychosis without Graham Sutton would be
like...uh... Disco Inferno without Ian Krause (WAAAAH! I'm still crying over
that one...)
quick backtrack:
"All Different Things"(89) and "Nothing Feels"(90) were originally issued as
2-sided 12"s ONLY on Che(ree) Records. The two 12"s were combined to create a
single EP, "Nothing Feels/I Know/All Different Things/By Blow"(90) - the
first four tracks on the INDESPENSIBLE "Independency" compilation. The first
- and only non-compiled B.P. track - was on a Che(ree) flexi with Spacemen 3
and the Fury Things. But Graham himself (who are we mortals to doubt him?!)
says that it's absolute crap. :) ... actually, he says that about the
spine-melting "By Blow", too. So go out, look for it, and let me know what
YOU think! It might even be on the "Mon Cheree Amour" cd comp. . . I don't
know.
If you need to satiate your Graham Sutton cravings - can't blame you, of
course - check out O'RANG - "Herd of Instinct". Not only is it Talk Talk's
rhythm section; it's also fookin' brilliant - sensational, rich, vibrant,
complex, dub/world/ambient/experimental music. AND Graham -Hallowed Be His
Name- plays guitar on tracks 1,2, and 3!!!! Beth (Nobody Loves Her) Gibbons
and Matt (more 4AD relevance!) Johnson are on the album, too. Graham used to
reefer to the band as SCHWAA in interviews, but I'm pretty sure that they
simply changed the name of the project. It's a phenomenal album - hard to
find and expensive, but aren't ALL the best things in life?! :) There's an
EP, too - "Spoor". Both are on Echo UK, though the ep has been reissued by
the wonderful folks at HitIt! - who also resurrected
[go-out-and-buy-it-this-minute] BUTTERFLY CHILD's "Onomatopoeia".
Just a note, since my 'cred' seems to be at stake here. I am NOT connected
with any sort of store, label, or commercial venture. The AE reviews were
posted for purely informational purposes - I thought it a shame that few have
been aware of those two amazing albums... I don't work for ae, Hitit!, Echo,
or Third Stone - hell, I'm not even working. :( I'm trying to dig up some
'unheard' classics. Hope that's clear now.
please join me in setting fire to all the busses in the world...
Gil
Pure. . . for quite some time now. The only thing is that they charge album
price for it. Seems pretty stupid, considering that it's only 6 tracks
long...
Oh. . . .
13th Floor Elevators RUUL!
and Kranky has yet to release anything less than sensational.
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:08:56 -0800
You wrote:
>
> Well, my favorite Pixies album is "Trompe Le Monde". Really,
it
>is. Is there a single person here who shares that view? I noticed it
was
>the only Pixies album not included in someone's "best of each year"
list.
>
>_______________________________________________________________________
_
>= "The kids of today should defend ) "So we're complicated, so what?"
=
>= themselves against the 70's!" ( - His Name Is Alive, "Why People
=
>= - Mike Watt ) Disappear"
=
>=======================================================================
=
>= "If life is a performance, and I am not an actor, am I supposed to
=
>= lay down and die?" - Juliana Hatfield
=
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~
>
still unpopular with me? their best was the first, well okay who
really cares. still unpopular with me, IMNSHO euthelene
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:46:47 -0800
"M. Wade Chamberlainn" at Nov 14, 95 08:07:37 pm
Its definitely happening...different set than the '3 hour tour' shows
(slightly anyway) and its at the Noe Valley Ministry.
>
> any more word on the December 8 date in Frisco Me and a bunch of friends
> are gonna drive out from SLC if so!
>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:18:08 -0500
If you're in the Boston area, HMV in Harvard Square can special order
the Mojave3 CD for you. They actually had one in stock a couple of
weeks ago, but told me that it was on hold for someone who had
special ordered it.
Mike
[email protected]
P.S. I don't think the TMC Box Set has been discontinued. Or maybe it's
just too expensive. I've seen it everywhere. $50 is a good deal,
though.
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:12:21 -0800
You wrote:
>
>I just saw the "Unpopular 4AD albums" message and thought about my
>recent visit to my local 2 hand shop. After listening to Frank Black's
>Teenager of the year LP I decided it wasn't for me. Then I found The
The's
>Blue Soul Mining(?) on CD and gave it a listen. I couldn't quite get
into it. I have Infected
>as well as some 12" which I really enjoy. Maybe it's coz they are
mixed by
>J G Thurlwell. I don't know.....
>
>Chris
>
ARGH sacrilidge, slaming Burning Blue Soul. okay so you weren't
slamming it. sometimes these older releases don't stand up production
wise to the new fangled toys of today. for its time, BBS was an
incredible venture. i thank the day IVo gave matt a chance.
euthelene, who is not a closet theThe fan...i'd give matt a rose anyday
and he could eat it or throw it away
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:55:24 -0800
Oops. Sorry for the massive .sig, all. that's what happens when you don't
get your crack first thing in the morning.
Jake
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:20:37 -0800
You wrote:
>
>Could someone please tell me more about Hector Zazou? I know he'w
worked
>w/Siouxsie & Dead Can Dance (not bad I know!)
he's a producer and arranger extraordinaire. into the keyboards,
programming and elctronics thang. on his latest "Songs from the Cold
Seas", which is excellent, he collaborates with the voices of bjork,
suzanne vega, john cale, jane siberry, siuxsie, and several world
musicians. he empahsizes the ethnicity of music, not really world beat
music purely but a zazou'edified take on native melodies and folk
tunes. as for his background etc, i have to dig up the interviews i
have stowed somewhere, can't seem to remember all this music stuff
anymore, too much stored in the ever shrinking brain. euthelene
>
>Also, does anyone have a copy of the "Moonchild" soundtrack performed
by
>Dead Can Dance?
>
>Thanks,
>Andrea
>[email protected]
>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 03:49:48 -0500
this may be old hat by now... i don't know because i haven't been keeping up
with the list, but i just wanted to throw in my 2 pennies in favor of the
"doom generation" sdtk. i was quite pleased with "curve"... a band i've
grown quite fond of lately. if anyone can suggest some albums by them, i'd
welcome the info. ( oh, i have "cuckoo" )
i loved the sdtk, especially twp's remix of "christianity." one question
tho', what other sdtks are there that feature as many 4AD bands as "doom
generation"? if any of you haven't heard it yet, take a listen...
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:00:04 -0600
Ron Jost. please e-mail me. i can't find your e-mail address anywhere,
and to make this slightly less offensive for the rest of you, i'd like to
see chris trout working with lisa gerrard on the next tmc album, or ian
with the pale saints -- minus colleen ;).
the e. e. witt-me
"the greater is the beauty. the profounder is the stain. significant of the
forbidden transgressed in eroticism."
-stereolab "pack yr romantic mind"
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:28:10 -0500
>And hey! Whatever happened to the impending re-release of "L'" on
>American Records? I never saw it show up.
But it did! It did get show up!... um, y'know what I mean. If memory
serves, the US domestic release of "L'" happened a couple of months ago.
Now only if I can find a second-hand copy....
hk
"We were swinging on so nice, bubbly pink champagne on ice,
Nancy, Jaques Closeau and Claire, I believe they all were there
Having the time of their lives..." - The Cardigans
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:32:36 PST
>ARGH sacrilidge, slaming Burning Blue Soul. okay so you weren't
>slamming it. sometimes these older releases don't stand up production
>wise to the new fangled toys of today. for its time, BBS was an
>incredible venture. i thank the day IVo gave matt a chance.
>euthelene, who is not a closet theThe fan...i'd give matt a rose anyday
>and he could eat it or throw it away
I'd also give the man a rose (for the post 4AD albums). This is a turnaround
yes? It's not a case of production inferiority either. It just didn't do it for
e.
Personal taste and all that.....
Tack for att Ivo har listnad till Matt (Skit, jag har glomt mycket).
Chris
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:43:55 +0100
Eric wrote:
>hey. while listening to "moves like you," a cath carroll song from the
>factory days, i noticed that near the end of the song she sings "angel,
>i'll walk you home. . ." that's one of the names on unrest's "perfect
>teeth" cd, with cath on the cover. the album, as most of you no doubt
>know, also contains the song cath carroll. are any of the other songs on
>the album "inspired" by her?
There's a line in 'Angel I Walk You Home' that goes "England Made You". The
title of CC's solo LP on Factory is 'England Made ME'.
The Unrest instrumental on 'The 13 Year Itch' is called 'Where Are All Those
Puerto Rican Boys'. And that's a line from CC's 'Beast (On The Streets)', a
track on 'England Made Me', also released as a CD-single/12".
>how is the factory album in general? i have the song "moves like you" on a
>comp disc, and that is it.
The 'England Made Me' LP/CD is rather good but a bit too smooth. I prefer
her 'True Crime Motel' album on Teenbeat. 'England Made Me' contains the
original version of 'Moves Like You' which isn't half as good as the
single-remix.
> more importantly, is it still available?
Factory went down 3 years ago, so you'll have to look for a second hand
copy, I'm afraid. Or try to get in touch with someone in Germany. The album
was re-issued there via Rough Trade in 1992.
Frank
++++++++++++
[email protected]
++++++++++++
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 12:33:33 -0800
I want to share my first experience with ordering online
from CD Europe. In short, I'm delighted! 21 days ago
I placed an order for Disco Inferno's "Summer's Last Sound"
and yesterday it arrived in my mailbox. They have a nice feature
where you can check on the status of your order, and it was
great to view the progress of my order as it went from
"on order" to "filled" to "shipped".
The only problem is that the prices are more than you
typically would pay at a record store. For all the
stuff I looked up, prices from $25 to $30 or more
were common, even for readily available releases.
But if you just can't find that one disc anywhere else,
maybe it's worth it. For the Disco Inferno cd-single
I ended up paying $11.95 plus $3.50 shipping.
Pretty painful, but I think that's the only way I could
have gotten it.
Here is something someone posted here over a year ago:
>For my fellow 4AD-Lers with telnet access to the internet: CD Europe is now
>on line (node 199.35.15.100). There're 200,000 imports listed, including CDs,
>CD singles, box sets, cassettes, vinyl, etc. The Cocteau Twins alone had 50
>items listed. Check it out even just to browse around and see what's _out_
>there. Despite the name, CD Europe also carries some Japanese releases (take a
>look at the listing for Curve).
Get there by telnet cdeurope.com or
telnet 199.35.15.100
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:37:09 +0000
"Johnathan A. Rickman" at Nov 14, 95 04:49:08 pm
"Johnathan A. Rickman" Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 05:08:11 -0500
>
> I have a better idea. Why don't we start a newsgroup called
> alt.4ad.dipshits-with-tiny-dicks that guys like you can post to?
>
> Martin
oh boy
a year later and not much has changed!!!
"cynical appreciation, cynical appreciation...my 4ad collection for
some cynical appreciation " he cried!
piss and vinegar dept
hemsy or wattso or whatever the hell he calls himself!!
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:50:41 -0500
>filagree and shadow. TMC is really more of a collaboration that
>evolves its participant list like the golden palominos--some of the
>same people but lots of fringees. love there covers, especially
>holocost by alex chilton, chills on the spine.
The cover of "Holocaust" is on the first TMC album, not 'Filigree and
Shadow'. And while I'm not sure exactly how the timetables line up, I think
the Paisley Underground "soopergroop" Rainy Day might have beaten Ivo'n'Co.
to the punch by covering the aforesaid LX Chilton toon on their album with a
similar arrangement as the TMC version.
Personally, while 'It'll All End in Tears' has more than its share of
outstanding songs (albeit covers, including a characteristically wordless
rendition of Roy Harper's "Another Day" sung by our favorite twitchy siren
Liz Fraser), I'd found 'Blood' to be more... coherent, to pull a word out of
the air.
Trainspottingly,
hk
"We were swinging on so nice, bubbly pink champagne on ice,
Nancy, Jaques Closeau and Claire, I believe they all were there
Having the time of their lives..." - The Cardigans
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:06:48 -0800
> hnia will save 4ad in 1996.
Even if they don't, Mr. Jake will be one happy guy come '96.
Jake
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:43:11 -0500
>I've got to add my $0.02 here...the Lilys 2nd proper album (Eccsame the
>Photon Band) is either just in the top 5 on '94/'95 (came out the end of
>'94) or it might be the single best album. (The single best new band
>honor would have to go to The For Carnation) This album takes a bit of
>MBV, a lot of Sgt. Pepper (in a good way - not the hokey crap most bands
>do) and a lot of drugs and make the fantastic, psychedelic, slowcore
>album of the past few years. Its hard to compare against others as its
>somewhat of an enigma...but listen for yourself. Has anyone here??
Actually, it is hard to compare 'Eccsame the Photon Band' to anything else,
because there really isn't anything as marvellously schizoidly pop as the
aforementioned long-player from Mssr. Heasley & Co. The Boo Radleys came
close in spots of 'Giant Steps' (another repectably Sgt. Pepper-inspired
album, in my book), but on the whole, the "Difficult Second Album from the
Lilys" is quite the curious beast all on its own.
But anyhoo, if the original topic of discussion had to do with "noisy guitar
pop bands," I'd throw in my endorsement for Henry's Dress, the mythical
missing link between the Valentines, Unsane, and Beat Happening, and quite
arguably one of the loudest three-piece bands I've witnessed of late. And
there's this band Godzuki from Detroit (home of MC5, natch) whose relatively
recent set w/ ESP Family was gratifyingly noisy yet concurrently melodic
(and the two-time double-feature of 'A Hard Days Night' and 'Death Race
2000' on the background movie screen did cast a really funny VU/Warhol angle).
And here's a curveball from out of nowhere: does anyone here rememeber Yuji
Oniki?
Cheers,
hk
"We were swinging on so nice, bubbly pink champagne on ice,
Nancy, Jaques Closeau and Claire, I believe they all were there
Having the time of their lives..." - The Cardigans
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:49:08 -0500
This predictions thread got my thoughts a rollin', and it seems I have
some predictions of my own............................................
AIR MIAMI
(i'll bet 4ad won't push their new album - have they really? - or any
future AM albums, thus AM will have little impact on anyones lives,
especially in England where Mark Robinson seems to have little effect
on anybody. The UK generally overlooked or up their noses towards
Unrest, so why should they care about AM? Mark's projects will probably
always have a place on 4AD though, cuz Ivo thinks Mark is tha shit, and
rightfully so in my opinion.)
HNIA
(i think someone mentioned that this band will "save" 4ad or will release
THE 4ad lp of the decade or something. I hope that this is the case, and
i certainly think it's possible, but their cut and paste approach has
kinda wore thin with me. I haven't heard any of the esp cassttes, but
anything Warren touches seems to turn to gold. I don't know that he'll
"save" 4ad, but he could be the glue that hold it together.)
LUSH
(easily my favorite , current 4ad act. anything they release i always like,
although the last lp made me fidgety. if their new album DOES sound like
elastica, it could give 4ad a little more worldwide cred, but i don't know
if i would want to buy anything that sounds like elastica. but i'm not
worried, it still is Emma and Miki runnin' the show after all.)
PALE SAINTS
(to me, ian's departure is the most depressing 4ad factoid ever. i found
this to be even more depressing than the Cocteau's departure from 4ad.
their last album MAYBE showed promise, and you can accept them for what
they are, but to me, listening to them now is simply painful. as far as
i'm concerned, ian was the pale saints. and i predict that their new album
will anger me, and not just simply make me roll my eyes like the last one. i
kinda wish they'd just go away. their new album, if there is to be one,
will flop, flop, and flop.)
i'm beginning to wonder if i actually made ANY predictions. :P
just my mind mind wondering i guess, thanx for listening!
any other thoughts to add to mine?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
''J''O''H''N'''''''R''I''C''K''M''A''N''''''''''''''''''''''''
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 05:28:52 -0500
hi gang
I had a nightmare last night. TMC had reformed for a 4th release and
in keeping with the trend of using current in house rosties, Ivo got
together the "talents" of amps/scheer/mojave 3/liquorice...but wait
theres more..the release was a triple album *yikes* and the cover art
was a luminous bright orange background with an out of focus photo of
a half eaten mouldy cabbage...and it was one of those scrath-'n-sniff
jobs too!! I can't remember more as I was awoken by the slapping palm
of daddy dearest..apparently my nightmare induced wails had awoken
the entire block...but i'm a lot better now after those two nice man
in the white van came to take me away...in fact i'd hug them if it
wasn't for this ridiculously tight fucking straight-jacket! ah
well...time for my shot again!
damn..i hate it when my other half takes over the terminal. soory
gang...just a little mail to say that i wrote off to 4ad complaining
about the fact that their supposedly free FTWW disc was being sold
here for $30 so those nice chaps sent me a freebie + a crappy belly
postcard + a copy of the catalogue (i have a spare now so Ed, write
me if you want it). Anyways, the catalogue included a nice A4 card
listing releases available post catalogue release and also a
list of deletions. The funny thing is that it had DCD towards the
within marked as double cd/tape/lp...right down to the catalogue nos
too! anyone know anything about this...is this a conspiracy?? also
had the lisa gerrard tour prog listed as a sale item but alas no
price was given! anyone want to shed light on the Towards the Within
anomaly...??
in the mean time i best get my asbestos suit on...and who the hell is
LUSH anyway...are they old or new 4ad sounding??
sugar and spice dept
hemsy
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:58:15 -0500
>"The
>feeling we were getting from 4AD was that we couldn't go in a studio and
>have fun any more," said Kozelek.
Ha ha hah ha hahh ha haaaaahh haah hahhhhh ha ha ha ha hhhhhahhh. He's such
a happy chappy our Mark is, eh? Such a joker....
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:01:58 +0200
...
...Attachment converted: Computer:Re- Dead Can Dance - bootlegs?
..(????/----) (0002A606)
Sometimes there are some strange documents attached to 4AD-l messages...
Why? And what the hell am I supposed to do with them?
Emiel
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 20:58:41 -0500
There will be no more SortSol (if you were paying attention, you know why).
1. Someone asked about UVS. I know that they are no longer on 4AD. Do they
still exist?
2. Does anyone know the whereabouts of Colourbox and/or Lorita Grahme (sp?)?
3. Just to get it straight, who is in RHP now? Who left? Who were the
musicians that Mark K. recorded with (someone mentioned this once before I
believe)?
4. The band TONE on Bruce Licher's IPR does contain Phil Krauth of Unrest. T
or F? (i.e. I want to know)
Regretfully,
Sibyl (who thinks that "Pump Up The Volume" is actually good)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:08:56 -0800
Does anyone out there know if it's possible to purchase RHP videos? I would
apreciate any information on the subject. Thanks!
Elvia
([email protected])
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:50:11 +0000
95 05:28:52 am
Hement Gopal <[email protected]> wrote:
> The funny thing is that it had DCD towards the within marked as
> double cd/tape/lp...right down to the catalogue nos too! anyone
> know anything about this...is this a conspiracy?? also had the
> lisa gerrard tour prog listed as a sale item but alas no price
> was given! anyone want to shed light on the Towards the Within
> anomaly...??
Same with Frank Black's last one, and the first self-titled Red House
Painters album - the DAD catalogue numbers are used for albums where
the *vinyl* version is a double disc, so you don't need to worry about
there being a double CD version of that DCD live album somewhere.
--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // [email protected] // 15/11/95
On my walkman this morning : St Etienne - So Tough
Ah, love, let us be true
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:16:28 -0600
>I finally got my 4AD catalogue in the mail, but I've still got a few
>questions. First, does this automatically put me on the mailing list for
>all those things like free 7"'s and Christmas cards? Second, I got mine
>from 4AD UK. If I were to get it from 4AD US would I be able to order
>things through the US office or would it still go through the UK?
>Basically, I just want to know if it would be less costly and more expedient
>to get a new catalogue from the US office.
What's the sddress to get a catalog from the US office?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:35:57 PST
Wattso,
I also received that catalogue (and FTWW). As I recall, the CD is single (althou
h the
catalogue number is DAD) The vinyl version has the two extra tracks from a passa
e in
time i.e. Bird, Spirit. The CD doesn't. My "Towards the within" is definitely s
ngle, but has
a DAD number on it. It's obviously a plot to confuse the masses and force us to
collect"
it. My catalogue has a Scheer promo postcard and some "wormy looking things" on
t.
I would imagine the wormy things are from the mouldy cabbage from your TMC
cover. And by the way you are incorrect. In my dream the new TMC is a 4 album
metal boxed set which contains real voodoo dolls of some members of the bands
you mentioned....
Chris, who found Vaughan lurking in his veggie patch
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 07:51:54 -0500
>- Expect to hear from Dean Garcia, Richard Ashcroft, and Guy Chadwick.
What *is* Guy Chadwick doing these days? Did that new band of his, The
Madonnas, not get off the ground, or did he break it up once he realised
what an awful name it was?
>does anyone know what the rhythm section are doing
>now? Dilworth has drummed for Stereolab and one of the songs on
>PJHarvey's last album, but I haven't heard anything about his getting a
>permanent job.
At the time of Stereolab's tour for Mars Audiac Quintet, Dilworth was on a
motorcycle trip around Europe, according to Duncan from Stereolab, but I
suppose he's finished that by now. I imagine he's doing photography again.
Dilworth is the only person to have a Saint Etienne song named after him
*and* to be mentioned in a different SE song...
Larry
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 07:19:37 -0500
>Labradford and JEssamine are 2 great Kranky bands......
Absolutely. Labradford do a good atmospheric thing, especially on their new
one "A Stable Reference". Another recent release is by a New Zealand band
called Flies Inside the Sun, which should appeal to fans of all-out noise
and general sonic mayhem. Jessamine you will like if you are a fan of noisy
guitar a la Swirlies or Th' Faith Healers and/or droney old keyboards,
similar to Stereolab. Speaking of which...
>> stereolab are crap,
>
>Truer words were never spoken.
>them's fightin' words!
Never mind all that...I'd like to see you follow through with Brant's
eminently sensible idea: explain WHY and HOW they suck/rule, in your own
words, at least 500 words, on my desk by Thursday lunchtime.
Laetitia thinks you're a capitalist worm,
Larry
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:10:20 -0500
For whoever is compiling the DCD boot info, here is one I have, good quality
Dead Can Dance - "Europe 1987"
Live Storm Records (made in Italy) #LSCD51514
1. Anywhere Out Of The World (4'14")
2. Host Of Seraphim (4'30")
3. The Arcane (4'34")
4. Cantara (3'54")
5. Indoctrination (6'16")
6. Dreams Made Flesh (5'56")
7. Enigma Of The Absolute (4'14")
8. Ocean (2'39")
9. In The Wake Of Adversity (3'55")
10. In Power We Intrust (4'45")
11. Xavier (4'00")
12. Circum Radient Dawn (4'42")
13. Persephone (3'01")
14. At First And Then (5'00")
15. Avatar (3'17")
16. Severance (4'05")
17. The Children's Toys (4'16")
The sleeve doesn't say where in Europe it was recorded, all it says is
"Recorded Live In Europe, February 22nd 1987"
It was recorded in front of an audience, but not in the order on the CD (i.e.
there's a blank space in between each song)
I also know some of the songs on the sleeve are mistitled. For example, #9
(if I'm not mistaken) should be "In power we entrust the love advocated"
(from the first self-titled CD of course). But I listed the songs as they
appear on the sleeve. I hope this helps someone.
-Blue
"Know who you are at every age" - CT
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:16:19 -0600
> Well, my favorite Pixies album is "Trompe Le Monde". Really, it
>is. Is there a single person here who shares that view? I noticed it was
>the only Pixies album not included in someone's "best of each year" list.
>
Favorite Pixies Album, hummm, Surfa Rosa is an undeniable classic
(Gigantic, River Euphraties, Vamos) But Trompe Le Monde is also truly great
(Head on, Subucultcha, planet of sound, U-mass) but let's not forget
doolittle (debaser, no 13 baby, I blead, tame, dead) However I would have
to cast my vote for the Come on Pilgram EP (vamos, ed is dead, I've been
tired, caribou, nimrods son, basically the whole darn thing is good) It
lacks some of the passion of Surfa Rosa, but it still walks the thin line
of mania while preserving talent, a well balanced EP, however, I'm open to
having my mind changed if anyone can pursuade me otherwise.
mike
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:39:15 -0500
Could someone please tell me how to get on the 4AD mailing list to
receive/purchase a catalogue (in the US or UK) Thanks!
Andrea
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:38:08 -0500
hi,
i'm on the indiepop list as well as 4ad and someone recently asked this
question and we weren't sure about the answer so i said i'd ask it here...
thanks in advance to everyone who responds!
maura
we now have a new rule on the bus: passengers will refrain
from killing my soul! --stu the bus driver
[email protected]
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 14 Nov 1995 15:23:22 U
but what i want to know is, what's the deal with the two
air miami cassettes that are advertised inside the album's
booklet. does anybody have these? do they really exist?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 07:56:48 -0600
Hi Charles,
Me again. I forgot one of the main points of my letter you you! Is the TMC
box still available? If so then I would really like to buy it.
Thanks,
Chad
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[email protected] Center for Strategic Technology Research
I speak only for myself
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:55:31 -0500
> I also received that catalogue (and FTWW). As I recall, the CD is single (alt
> hough the
> catalogue number is DAD) The vinyl version has the two extra tracks from a pa
> ssage in
> time i.e. Bird, Spirit. The CD doesn't. My "Towards the within" is definitel
hmmm sounds like the into the labyrinth double vinyl set...it too has
the two unreleased trax (bird/spirit) on it....in fact spirit in on
the dcd box set promo cd too if me brain is in working order...guess
i'll have to check it out tonite...the disc not my brain!!
piss & vinegar dept.
hemsy
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:11:12 +0100
Please send a merchandise list or any info regarding 4AD logo/pixies t-shirts,
hanks Dave.
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 07:46:18 -0600
At 12:51 pm 11/14/95 EST, you wrote:
>There is a TMC box set sitting in a local record store for $45. The shrink
>wrap is torn off but for 4 discs costing the usual $50 to $70 this is a good
>price. I think that the TMC box set is discontinued. E-mail me privately if
>you wish to buy this excellent box set.
>
>I was wondering if anyone has access to the new Mojave 3 cd on import. I've
>been combing all of the record stores in the PRovidence and Boston area and
>have been coming up empty. If anyone has access to one I will pay all
>shipping and handling and cost of the record and have my heartfelt gratitude.
>Thanks.
Hi Charles,
You can order the Mojave disc from Intergalatic Garage (contact information
below). This is were I ordered mine. I believe that the total cost of the
whole thing after shipping and stuff was about $28. Not exactly cheap, but
at least they have it.
Hope this helps,
Chad
Here is the IG information:
INTERGALACTIC GARAGE
POB 3047
Shepherdstown, WV
25443
(304) 876-6818
(304) 876-9414 FAX
best Email = [email protected]
Home Page: http://www.intrepid.net/igg/igg.html
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[email protected] Center for Strategic Technology Research
I speak only for myself
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:43:33 +0100
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I must definitly reply to tell that I fully agree on the Pixies albums;
it's shame that after they've splitted up, neither Frank Black or Kim
Deal reached the same level as they did with the Pixies, although the
Breeders had some good singles and maybe Kim's new project is something
to look forward to. Let's hope -after a bad sale- they reconsider
working back together. At least I will continue buying their next records.
----------
Date: Wednesday, 15 November, 1995 05:16
> Well, my favorite Pixies album is "Trompe Le Monde". Really, it
>is. Is there a single person here who shares that view? I noticed it was
>the only Pixies album not included in someone's "best of each year" list.
>
Favorite Pixies Album, hummm, Surfa Rosa is an undeniable classic
(Gigantic, River Euphraties, Vamos) But Trompe Le Monde is also truly great
(Head on, Subucultcha, planet of sound, U-mass) but let's not forget
doolittle (debaser, no 13 baby, I blead, tame, dead) However I would have
to cast my vote for the Come on Pilgram EP (vamos, ed is dead, I've been
tired, caribou, nimrods son, basically the whole darn thing is good) It
lacks some of the passion of Surfa Rosa, but it still walks the thin line
of mania while preserving talent, a well balanced EP, however, I'm open to
having my mind changed if anyone can pursuade me otherwise.
mike
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NigwOTMpAKoK
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:23:48 -0500
Ha ha ha!
I, for one, am glad to see you back, Hemsy. Your off-beat humor is what this
list has been missing lately. (not to take anything away from e's offbeat
humor...)
marvynHortman ftp://sharedcast.hccs.cc.tx.us
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:30:18 +0100
On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Emiel Efdee wrote:
> ...BTW - was the box a Limited Edition?
>
> There were 'only' 2000 boxes released.
>
> That's about 8000 cd's
>
> I've got one, my sister owns a copy so there must be 1998 elsewhere...
>
>
> Emiel
>
I have one! (and i love it too!).
kate.
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:37:20 +0100
On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, cz wrote:
> Holly said:
> >Hi. I have two CDs of DCD not on 4AD. I think they are bootlegs. Anyone
> have these? Are there others like the ones I have? Anyone want more
> information on these?
>
> I have a different one called "Gothic Spleens" but actually i seem
> to remember that there are two pairs of duplicate boot CD's with different
> names.
hey, i've got a few myself. and, i was wondering if you also had noticed
that some of these tracks were recorded by lisa gerrard on her new
album (i.e., "Arabian Gothic" becomes "Swans"--very beautiful, i must say).
kate.
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:29:30 -0500
The two air miami cassettes advertised inside the album's booklet were
privately given out by Mark Robinson as gifts to his friends & employees.
They were never commercially available, and unfortunately prolly never will
be. Anyone who can get me a copy of one or both please e-mail me ;)
PS I have a live AM bootleg tape from 2/16/95 which features "I Hate Milk"
with different lyrics! Can't really make 'em out though...
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:07:49 -0700
I bought my TMC box set in Albuquerque for around $33 (course, I worked
at the store I bought it at, so....). It's a good investment. Really
enjoyable to listen to, especially the Thais pieces, and that one that
sounds like a ship in the fog (what was that called? I want to say the
Pierced Heart or somethign similar to that). If you don't want to invest
in the whole thing, just get Filigree and Shadow. It hsa the above
mentioned tracks.
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:05:38 -0500
>> Well, Tim Buckley, Roy Harper... they're both 70's folk singers with one
>> syllable first names and two syllable last names, etc., etc....
>After hearing the This Mortal Coil versions of Tim Buckley songs, I had
>to get some of his stuff and found it to all be great. Try "Dream Letter"
>or "Live at the Troubador"
Most definitely, 'Dream Letter' and 'Live at the Troubadour' comprise a very
good starting point for Tim Buckley's works. If memory serves, those two
live albums document a period in Buckley's career that I personally find to
be his peak (somewhere around 'Happy/Sad' and 'Starsailor').
Okay, so can anyone recommend a good Roy Harper album to get?
Cheers,
hk
--
"We were swinging on so nice, bubbly pink champagne on ice,
Nancy, Jaques Closeau and Claire, I believe they all were there
Having the time of their lives..." - The Cardigans
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:09:43 -0800
On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Johnathan A. Rickman wrote:
> This predictions thread got my thoughts a rollin', and it seems I have
> some predictions of my own............................................
>
> AIR MIAMI
> (i'll bet 4ad won't push their new album - have they really? - or any
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm, YES.... EMPHATICALLY YES.
It went number 1 in CMJ, ya know.
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:07:37 -0800
I noticed whilst perusing the eyesore database last night that Sinkhole
was on one of the first Throwing Muses CDs. Is this the same Sinkhole
that's on the new Kristen Hersh Holy Single? Does anyone eat pomegranets
anymore? Enquiring minds want to know.
thanks,
matthew
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:19:35 CST
>> more importantly, is it still available?
>
>Factory went down 3 years ago, so you'll have to look for a second hand
>copy, I'm afraid. Or try to get in touch with someone in Germany. The album
>was re-issued there via Rough Trade in 1992.
>
that said, does anyone have an extra copy?
eric
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:10:54 +0100
Nov 14, 95 08:48:52 pm
And lo!, cz spake unto the masses:
> I have a different one called "Gothic Spleens" but actually i seem
> to remember that there are two pairs of duplicate boot CD's with different
> names and different covers that are from the same concert. so, be careful.
You are right, I have one called "Ailema", which is also the Belgium 93
concert. I don't know if it's exactly the same as "Dark Christmas" - if
anyone wants to compare, "Ailema" has 18 tracks (first is "Amelia", last "Angel
Tears")
The second DCD bootleg I own is called "The Rare Traxx" and has been "recorded
live in the US 90-94". Sound quality is quite good.
Tracks are:
- Fuaelo
- Spleens
- Lilian Colours
- End of a Circle
- Desert Sun
- Mystical Rain
- Sailing the Sea
- Watch over me
- Out Of A Serpent's Egg
- Amelia
- Ignis
- Lost Treasure
- Forest Of Souls
- Factuus
- Empty Dreams
- Mourner Rose
- Garden of Refuge
- Ichor
Some other bootlegs I know of: "Golden Age" (fairly old, ~86), "Mystical Rain"
++roland
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...only the madman is absolutely sure...
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:15:32 -0600
Forgot to check those damn headers!
My sincerest apologies,
Chad
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[email protected] Center for Strategic Technology Research
I speak only for myself
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:04:00 EST
A bunch of LPD CDs showed up recently and I am curious about the
contents of the Legendary Pink Box. Is it a comp? Remixes? Repackaging
of original albums? Worth getting? Thanks.
--michael--
callahan%[email protected]
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:49:36 -0500
On Wed, 15 Nov 1995 [email protected] wrote:
> Please send a merchandise list or
> any info regarding 4AD logo/pixies t-shirts, thanks Dave.
should we send dave a faux list of things he can buy??
since when did the flame department become
the merchandise section??
3rd floor... auto parts and baby food.
thanks e for making the list readable the past
few days... it was quite dramatic and about the
only thing i read through the 10 gazillion messages...
i hope you people realize e thrives on your blood...
and flames. you always have been the voice of reason.
a sincere thanks from lil' spirally me. :)
---> [spiral]
[email protected]
ps. you know? you could tell me what you think
about the moons boat you bastard... dont pull a j.
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:57:00 PST
i am interested in collecting all liz frazer vocals on non-cocteau
tracks. below is the list of all the tracks that i am aware of.
if anyone has any comments or info, please share them w/ the rest of us:
1. this mortal coil--
song to siren
another day
16days, gathering dust
2. ian Mcculloch
candleland
heaven's gate
3. wolfgang press
respect
i am the crime
4. dif juzz
love insane
5. Felt (one of my favorite bands)
primitive painters
4. peace it-- be still
the robin guthrie mix
bahman
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:51:55 -0800
>Personally, while 'It'll All End in Tears' has more than its share of
>outstanding songs (albeit covers, including a characteristically wordless
>rendition of Roy Harper's "Another Day" sung by our favorite twitchy siren
>Liz Fraser)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Interesting story about this song. I read once in a magazine that Kate Bush
was a big Tim Buckley fan, so back in the early '80's she and Peter Gabriel
did a duet of it.... AND IT WAS NEVER RELEASED!!!!AAAARRRRRGGGG...
Being one of my favorite songs sung by one of my favorite artists, I was
obviously a little incensed. I finally found a copy of a demo of the song
on a KB bootleg, but the quality was definitely below mediocre.
Maybe in a parallel universe somewhere, it reached #1 and stayed there for
15 weeks straight. I can only hope.
Jake
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:56:00 PST
In response to the person from AOL asking where to find the 'Miss
America' album by Mary Margaret O'Hara:
1. Look around at used record stores. It's out of print.
2. The artwork is done by Mary Margaret O'Hara herself, NOT Chris Bigg!
Unless the part on the liner notes that said "Album Artwork : M2O'H" is some
strange sister company of V23.
3. This album was produced by Michael Brook, which may be the 4AD connection
you were thinking of.
4. 'Help me lift you up' is the best song on the album... so don't expect a
potpourri of shimmering brilliance.
Glad to be of assistance, please deposit 20 cents for the next 10 minutes.
This is my Stupid Signature Line
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:13:19 -0500
> Does anyone eat pomegranets anymore?
Of course! I *love* pomegranets! I used to go vist my grandmother's farm and
pick these things up all the time and eat them. Unique flavor!
marvynHortman ftp://sharedcast.hccs.cc.tx.us
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:43:08 -0600
"Katy Renick" at Nov 15, 95 03:37:20 pm
Yes, did anyone mention Mystic Dreams, which is definitely not put out
by them themselves, considering the bootleggy titles and the cover
art??
*Kendal*
>
> On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, cz wrote:
>
> > Holly said:
> > >Hi. I have two CDs of DCD not on 4AD. I think they are bootlegs. Anyone
> > have these? Are there others like the ones I have? Anyone want more
> > information on these?
> >
> > I have a different one called "Gothic Spleens" but actually i seem
> > to remember that there are two pairs of duplicate boot CD's with different
> > names.
>
> hey, i've got a few myself. and, i was wondering if you also had noticed
> that some of these tracks were recorded by lisa gerrard on her new
> album (i.e., "Arabian Gothic" becomes "Swans"--very beautiful, i must say).
> kate.
>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:30:18 -0500
Hate ta burst yo' bubble, but CMJ ALWAYS gives any Mark Robinson release
mad props. Then again, this #1, was it for college radio results, or for
CMJ staff picks? If it was for the former, then I must say I'm surprised,
i wasn't aware that Air Miami was getting so much college air play!
Then again, I live in D.C. which is totally devoid of college radio.
If it was for the latter, then I would argue it has more to do with a
bunch o' hip New Yorkers (CMJ staffers) who always worship at the TeenBeat
alter. This is great for publicity, but 4ad had little to do with it. It
coulda been on Cleopatra & CMJ woulda given it the highest rating.
Ya see - the power of Mark E. in effect!
Sorry to sound negative, and thanks for pointing the CMJ fact out, but
I'm still not convinced 4AD will push Air Miami the way they have other
acts - i.e. Breeders, Lush, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
''J''O''H''N'''''''R''I''C''K''M''A''N''''''''''''''''''''''''
[email protected]
On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, J Beswick (c.l.g.e.) wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Johnathan A. Rickman wrote:
>
> > This predictions thread got my thoughts a rollin', and it seems I have
> > some predictions of my own............................................
> >
> > AIR MIAMI
> > (i'll bet 4ad won't push their new album - have they really? - or any
>
>
> Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm, YES.... EMPHATICALLY YES.
>
> It went number 1 in CMJ, ya know.
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:58:11 -0800
> any more word on the December 8 date in Frisco Me and a bunch of friends
> are gonna drive out from SLC if so!
>
I don't know about that show but Mark is doing a solo acoustic thingy
here in Seattle on Nov. 21st at some place called the Tracter Tavern.
Will I be there? Of course. Anyone else in the area might want to stop
in as well, if you're 21. It's only $6!
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:27:22 -0800
Ok. Here are some others:
Medicine
time baby 3
Felt
the day the rain came down
(it's hardly noticeable, but it IS credited)
and remember that there are two different versions
of "Candleland", both with her vocals (as far as I
recall). Liz actually appears in the video!
I've got a feeling there are others, but they aren't
coming to me.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:02:37 -0800
<[email protected]>
I hate to say this, but I bought the Mojave 3 CD (and it looks, for all
intents and purposes, to be an import copy) for $14.99 at Rasputin's in
Berkeley, CA. After reading everybody's posts I have no idea why my copy was
so cheap, but I'm sure that one of us Bay Area 4AD-L people could
periodically check out for it at Mod Lang / Rasputin's / Amoeba (you can't
shop at just one!) if any of y'all are interested.
yrz,
ozy
ozymandias G desiderata [email protected] Ravers Suck Our Sound
(415)284-6888 http://www.organic.com/Staff/ogd/ ::AOAIOXXYSZ::
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:40:50 -0500
Just to add my two pennies worth, I got this DCD CD at a recrd fair in
Glasgow. There were actually four there. One was exactly the same recording
as this one, but different artwork and design of CD. One other was
seriously bad quality, and another was pretty good quality and was their
earlier stuff (not my cup o' tea).
This one is okay quality, bit quiet (apart from the audience - especially
the person standing next to whoever recorded the gig - he coughs bloody
loudly!).
The CD is on (surprise surprise)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:33:43 +0100
Nov 14, 95 05:20:42 pm
And lo!, Frank Brinkhuis spake unto the masses:
>
> I just got the v23 'Modern Calender' in the mail (there's no sign that it is
> a calender for 1996!). All I can say is that I'm.... slightly disappointed.
"Slighlty disappointed" is quite mildly put - in fact, I'm very disappointed.
Somehow, I expected a calendar designed by v23 - however, only very few
are done by them (at least, I've never heard of the other artists in
context of v23 (in fact, I've never heard of them at all)):
One month is by S. Larbalestier, one by C.Bigg and one by V. Olivier
himself (and although I generally like Olivier's work, this is certainly
well below his usual standard)
The months done by the other artists are with few execptions fairly
uninteresting photographs.
> Just 13 (14) nice pictures.
About 4 pictures are nice, 4 are so-so, and the others are imo quite ugly.
> I think the 1993 calender was far better and
Actually, I think all other calendars are far better (if anyone has one
to spare, drop me a mail ;)
> And no decorated cardboard box, just the calender. The calender is also not
> part of the 4AD catalogue (the cat.# is MINTY 23), so officially it doesn't
> count as another nail in 4AD's coffin :) :)
Praise God for small favours ;)
++roland
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..und da macht ein hauch mich von verfall erzittern..
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:46:05 +1300
Future Sound of London - Lifeforms EP
Robin
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:52:44 -0500
Earlier in my gushings about _Blood_ I meant to say the other song I liked with
the piano was "with tomorrow" not "another day". All this talk about "another
day" had that on my brain when I sent the other note.
mH
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:05:17 -0500
BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD!!!! ...and nothing but!
Everyone rags on this one as being the weakest of the three, but I gotta
disagree. "You and Your Sister" is one of the most haunting songs I've ever
heard...I still get chills when I listen to it.
"..til I gain control again" is also one of my favorite songs. God, have you
heard the original? Who is it? Tammy Wynette or someone that did it? I
absolutely love the old piano in that song. I recently inherited my aunt's old
piano which sounds identical to the one in the song; and I grew up listening to
that piano, so that song along with "another day" really evoke strong feelings
in me. However, I always thought she said "..that marks the straightest jetti's
end" instead of "that marks the safest journey's end." which I got from the
original version so that kinda depressed me. I had images of a jetti poking out
in the water in the dead of night with a lonely lighthouse at the end.
Nonetheless, THIS SONG RULES!!
Speaking of perfection, the initial way the CD starts out also just relaxes the
hell out of me. I hear it start out and just lose myself in the wash. I can be
having the worst day of my life; and I hear this CD start up and I'm instantly
in the best mood.
The cover of Syd Barrett's "Late Night" is also good; and I really like the
"sicker than a cat" song; I forgot the name.
Anyway, I like Filigree and Shadow (I bought it on tape in 1986, I think and
fell totally in love with it on a three-hour drive home one time; I later bought
the CD to it.)
Next I bought "It'll End In Tears"; which, maybe I'm not that "into" the old 4AD
sound; but I liked it the least. (Course, the only Cocteau Twins album that
really struck me was "Heaven Or Las Vegas" so you can see my bias.)
Finally, in 1991, I saw "Blood" in a Tower Records in New Orleans; I bought it
and have been completely in love with it ever since. I almost don't want to
listen to it too much (ever feel this way?) for fear of it becoming too
"commonplace" in that it doesn't have the same feelings I get now whenever I
listen to it.
Then a couple of years ago I bought the box set and I have to second the
recommendation about the orignal disc in the set. It is incredible as well.
Especially after hearing all these songs for years; and then get the orignal (in
some cases) more haunting versions of the songs as well?
Sheesh. Ivo truly is a genius (at times). hemsy, don't worry; I think if he
can turn mediocre talent like Heidi Berry into a goddess on this CD; that he can
even make something out of Scheer and Tarnation if he chooses to put together
another TMC.
In brief; instead of each TMC getting weaker; I feel just the opposite. Even in
the weird order I bought them in, I still rank them:
1. Blood (by a wide, W I D E margin)
2. Filigree and Shadow
3. It'll End In Tears
PS You fools! Diedre R. is a goddes and "The Kindness of Strangers" is an
awesome work. Go listen to it again. I'll wrastle anyone who says otherwise.
(I'm getting ready to go join wattso on the piss and vinegar list)
marvynHortman ftp://sharedcast.hccs.cc.tx.us
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:01:24 -0800
> was a big Tim Buckley fan, so back in the early '80's she and Peter Gabriel
> did a duet of it.... AND IT WAS NEVER RELEASED!!!!AAAARRRRRGGGG...
I've got a copy of this song from a live bootleg. It's
fairly good quality as bootlegs go. I would think that this
was the way the song was always meant to be performed,
to better agree with the lyrical content. It's also
the first time I ever heard this song and I just figured
it was some Peter Gabriel thing. Silly me. He also
does a stirring version of "Here Comes The Flood"
(? I hope that's the right title).
The bootleg is called something like "The Wizards Quest"
or some such nonsense, and it's a double vinyl thing.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:13:39 -0500
On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Andrea Dawn Meth wrote:
> Could someone please tell me more about Hector Zazou? I know he'w worked
> w/Siouxsie & Dead Can Dance (not bad I know!)
>
> Also, does anyone have a copy of the "Moonchild" soundtrack performed by
> Dead Can Dance?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrea
> [email protected]
>
>
>
Hector Zazou has made two albums, "Songs From the Cold Seas" and "Sahara
Blue."
Both albums are of the compilation sort, but with pretty clear central
direction from Hector Zazou. Sahara Blue is the first and has a more
industrial edge, the second album is more ethnically diverse. Take your
pick, they're both interesting.
Michael
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:47:31 +0200
At 17:20 14-11-1995, Frank Brinkhuis wrote:
...I just got the v23 'Modern Calender' in the mail (there's no sign that it is
...a calender for 1996!). All I can say is that I'm.... slightly disappointed.
...Just 13 (14) nice pictures.
And you can't write all of those favourite birthdays of family and friends
on it as well...
Just kidding, I think they (v23 and friends) made a beautiful piece of
work. I hoped it would be more than 14 pieces of paper, some hardboard and
a wire-o but the pictures are great. I love the idea of not putting the
days of the week on it because I never use a wall-calender to see what day
it is anyway... Sometimes I still look at April in August. So why make it
functional? I am not disappointed with this thing (than again, I don't have
copies of the first two calendars) but I don't think it's one of 'the
studio's most challenging designs' as Vaughan (is that him on the cover??)
likes to call it. I think this thing will be on my wall in 1997 too.
Vaughan himself did a great job by working with Ichiro Kono, I have seen
other images from this artist and I like it.
Look at number 23, it's a naughty little socker!
Any of the other calenders for sale somwhere?
Emiel Efdee
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[email protected] (the netherlands)
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http://www.luna.nl/~efdee
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:34:12 -0800
At 6:58 PM 11/14/95, Andrew Massey wrote:
>>"The
>>feeling we were getting from 4AD was that we couldn't go in a studio and
>>have fun any more," said Kozelek.
>
>Ha ha hah ha hahh ha haaaaahh haah hahhhhh ha ha ha ha hhhhhahhh. He's such
>a happy chappy our Mark is, eh? Such a joker....
your point being....?
Elvia
([email protected])
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:35:18 -0800
You wrote:
>
>A bunch of LPD CDs showed up recently and I am curious about the
>contents of the Legendary Pink Box. Is it a comp? Remixes? Repackaging
>of original albums? Worth getting? Thanks.
>
>--michael--
>callahan%[email protected]
>
I own this puppy, here's the listing of both CDs from the liner notes:
CD1
Pearl Moon
Tanzder China Dolls
Obession
Thrusday Night Fever
Time Dance
The Blessing
God Speed
A Day at the Dreamies
Close Your Eyes, You Can Be A Space Captain
Permonition 13
CD2
(Still) Defeated ( 1981)
Voices (1980)
Hauptbanhof (1981)
Closet Kings (1981)
Clean Up (1982)
Government Health Warning (1984)
Film of the Book (1982)
Ego Tripper (1983)
Curse - the Sequel (1983)
The Plasma Twins (1983)
Apocalypse Soon (1983)
Rapunzel
Black Highway (1981)
Swordfish Lament
HTH
cheers, euthelene
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 01:44:18 +0100
Emile wrote (Nov 15):
> I think they (v23 and friends) made a beautiful piece of work.
>Vaughan himself did a great job by working with Ichiro Kono, I have seen
>other images from this artist and I like it.
>Look at number 23, it's a naughty little socker!
What naughty? It's a football player! He's only trying to get in the box!!
(I know, this is a VERY sexist joke)
Frank
P.S. He Lars, what do you think about the match in Rotterdam last night!
++++++++++++
[email protected]
++++++++++++
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:43:25 -0800
On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Johnathan A. Rickman wrote:
> Hate ta burst yo' bubble, but CMJ ALWAYS gives any Mark Robinson release
> mad props. Then again, this #1, was it for college radio results, or for
> CMJ staff picks? If it was for the former, then I must say I'm surprised,
Surprise! It was number one on their college radio chart. Beat out
Sonic Youth even.
Strick9
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 19:11:11 +0200
Pale Saints are one of the artists on the Tom Waits tribute:
Step Right Up, The Music of Tom Waits
If we have to tell you how cool Tom Waits is, then you may as well skip this
and go to the Barry Manilow website. If however, you are hip to one of the
world's truly iconoclastic songwriter/poet/raconteur(s) then you are going
to superdig this disc. I mean c'mon...it would be an awesome LP just for the
songwriting. But, when you've got some of Waits best songs performed by
artists like 10,000 Maniacs (the last track released w/Natalie Merchant),
Tindersticks, Drugstore, Violent Femmes, Alex Chilton, Pete Shelley, The
Wedding Present, Dave Alvin, Magnapop, Pale Saints, Frente!, Tim Buckley,
Jeffrey Lee Pierce, Archers of Loaf and These Immortal Souls...well, need we
say more? Well, maybe just one more thing...on the cover of the LP is one of
the only pictures we could find of the legendary Tropicana Hotel--the Home
of Waits, Rickie Lee Jones, and just about any L. A. Hipster you'd care to
name. This record is available everywhere in the U. S. from your fave record
store, or Caroline Distributors. For the rest of the world, look for it on
the totally wacky Virgin label.
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Manifesto Records announces the upcoming release of album "Step Right Up:
The Songs of Tom Waits," which will be released worldwide on November 6,
1995.
The full line-up for the album is as follows:
* DRUGSTORE "Old Shoes"
* TINDERSTICKS "Mockin' Bird"
* PETE SHELLEY "Better Off Without A Wife"
* THE WEDDING PRESENT "Red Shoes by the Drugstore"
* VIOLENT FEMMES "Step Right Up"
* ALEX CHILTON "Downtown"
* ARCHERS OF LOAF "Big Joe and Phantom 309"
* THESE IMMORTAL SOULS "You Can't Unring a Bell"
* JEFFREY LEE PIERCE "Pasties and a G-String"
* MAGNAPOP "Christmas Card from a Hooker in
Minneapolis"
* DAVE ALVIN "Ol' 55"
* PALE SAINTS "Jersey Girl"
* TIM BUCKLEY "Martha"
* FRENTE! "Ruby's Arms"
* 10,000 MANIACS "I Hope That I Don't Fall In Love With You"
The album will be out in the U.S. and Canada through Caroline
Distribution, and in U.K., Europe, and Australia through Virgin Records.
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the Manifesto Records Home Page:
Emiel Efdee
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[email protected] (the netherlands)
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http://www.luna.nl/~efdee
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:43:16 +0800
On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, bahman wrote:
> i am interested in collecting all liz frazer vocals on non-cocteau
> tracks. below is the list of all the tracks that i am aware of.
> if anyone has any comments or info, please share them w/ the rest of us:
...aside from those you listed, there's the 'Lifeforms' e.p (paths 1-7)
by Future Sound of London where Liz does vox...
-mel-
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:47:25 -0500
A lot of people have been asking about M2O'H's "Miss America," so I thought
I'd provide what info I could.
I have no idea if it's still in print, but here's the US cat. info: Virgin
Records 91274. It is genius. If you like Lisa Germano and/or Kendra Smith,
you really should check it out. Check it out even if you don't like them,
because she's better than they are. Actually, those comparisons are
probably not as good as Tarnation and Mojave 3. There's definately a
country feel to it. Sort of a "deranged k.d. lang" vibe. And what a voice!
Contrary to at least one opinion, I don't think the album is just "Help Me
Lift You Up" and a bunch of filler. It is the best song (head and shoulders
above the TMC version), but "To Cry About," "Body in Trouble," and "You Will
Be Loved Again" are brilliant too.
Anyway, good luck finding it. I hope the information helps you.
-- Jeff
Jeffrey T. Gayton
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:30:44 -0500
Don't forget the 'Lifeforms' 7-track EP by Future Sound of London, 'Time
Baby 3' by Medicine, that Bathers track which I don't know the name of,
the tribute to Pink Floyd with the London Philharmonic Orchestra, and I
believe there may also be one other Felt track called something like 'The
Day the Rains Came Down'. Heard of this?
On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, bahman wrote:
> i am interested in collecting all liz frazer vocals on non-cocteau
> tracks. below is the list of all the tracks that i am aware of.
> if anyone has any comments or info, please share them w/ the rest of us:
>
> 1. this mortal coil--
> song to siren
> another day
> 16days, gathering dust
>
> 2. ian Mcculloch
> candleland
> heaven's gate
>
> 3. wolfgang press
> respect
> i am the crime
>
> 4. dif juzz
> love insane
>
> 5. Felt (one of my favorite bands)
> primitive painters
>
> 4. peace it-- be still
> the robin guthrie mix
>
> bahman
>