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Subject: Re: autechre
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:49:51 -0500
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: MACBETH
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:45:39 -0500
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: FS:FTWW, Frazier Chorus, etc.
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:30:04 -0500
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: unrest promo - cath carrol - for trade
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 21:58:29 -0800
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@netcom.com)
Subject: ...on the lake, a gentle ripple...
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 21:48:24 -0800
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@netcom.com)
Subject: HNIA's next album
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:05:07 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Seefeel vs Cocteau Twins: Let the flames begin!
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:32:14 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: ein quique guide to Ae
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:44:12 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: Sheer/medicine/Daou=Cool death metal bands!
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:47:44 +0100
From: snailhead (Guy.Vandekerckhove@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: Re: MACBETH
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:52:44 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Amps & Autechre again
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:34:48 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: error messages from dump.com
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:41:19 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: ok, anyone buying projekt stuff lately?
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 02:07:34 -0800
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Autechre.. _Anvil Vapre_
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 03:59:41 -0600
From: Sung Shim (foss@STARNETINC.COM)
Subject: Dewdrops goes vinyl!!!
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 06:56:45 -0500
From: KILLMESOON@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FS:FTWW, Frazier Chorus, etc.
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 06:54:24 -0500
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Seefeel/Cocteaux
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:07:20 -0500
From: "careful with that apostrophe, Eugene" (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: scheer
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:13:00 GMT
From: "Cormac O`Flaherty" (coflaher@thorung.eeng.dcu.ie)
Subject: scheer exhaustian
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:00:05 GMT
From: AKIRA (dicnnghm@TCD.IE)
Subject: Cocteau / Seefeel
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 03:05:06 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: Cranes (again)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:52:51 EST
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.COM)
Subject: Saint Etienne
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:53:12 GMT
From: Anthony John Bailey (baileya@CS.MAN.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: HNIA's next album
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:57:41 -0500
From: Initialboy@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Dewdrops goes vinyl!!!
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:57:39 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Seefeel vs Cocteau Twins: The thread continues
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:21:12 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Lush
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:23:24 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: St. Etienne
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:37:41 -0800
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: TMC sample in WFO?
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:43:09 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: brenden perry/mojave/hnia
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:05:31 -0700
From: "M. Wade Chamberlainn" (chamberlainw@YVAX.BYU.EDU)
Subject: 4AD Catalogue
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:50:54 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Super 31 / Aberdeen
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:46:37 -0800
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Amps & Autechre
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:03:41 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g.e.)" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Sheer/medicine/Daou=Cool death metal bands!
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:57:39 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: MACBETH (fwd)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:00:34 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: brenden perry/mojave/hnia
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:01:12 -0500
From: Initialboy@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: MACBETH (fwd)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:39:48 -0800
From: [suppressed]
Subject: Re: Joy Division sacred?
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:44:14 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Mojave(3)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:19:36 -0500
From: BlissedJ@AOL.COM
Subject: Medicine Broke up?/dorky bands I like
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:38:12 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject:
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:28:46 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD Catalogue
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:39:09 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re. Xymox
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:22:48 -0500
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Elysium and Dd thank you / christmas release
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:09:51 -0700
From: ".mark." (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: error messages from dump.com
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:55:11 -0500
From: Kevhin Kean (Spider1327@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Seefeel vs Cocteau Twins: The thread continues
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:05:09 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: RHP
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:08:45 -0800
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Otherness
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:26:36 -0800
From: "Linda A. B. Snyder" (labs@XYZZY.CTS.COM)

Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:49:51 -0500
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: autechre


>could someone give me some information on autechre?  i have _amber_ and enjoy
>it quite a bit.  what other releases are there and how do they compare to
>_amber_?  i seem to remember a discussion about this a couple months ago but
>can't remember what the consensus was.
>
>thanks...
>
>brian

Excuse the me too post, but I too would like some info.  I found a promo of
this for NINETY FIVE CENTS at my local cheesy record store, and bought it
because I remembered reading good things about them in this list.

I took it home, played it, and loved it!!!

techno like this.  It reminds me of drum-machine obsessed Aphex Twin.



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John B. Jones                           e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu


"A pox upon the media and everything you read,
 They tell you their opinions and they're very good indeed." -Soft Boys
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:45:39 -0500
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: MACBETH


>>>>Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Macbeth's album????<<<
>
>
>Did they ever release an album?  The only song I ever encountered
>from Macbeth (Gordon Sharp, Robin Guthrie, and someone else) was
>a cover of "Help Me Lift You Up" my Mary Margaret O'Hara. It was
>featured in Volume 5 CD/Magazine back in 1992.
>
>Mike
>iceblink@delphi.com

Never Never mention the name of the Scottish play.


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John B. Jones                           e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu


"A pox upon the media and everything you read,
 They tell you their opinions and they're very good indeed." -Soft Boys
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:30:04 -0500
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: FS:FTWW, Frazier Chorus, etc.


I'm auctioning the following items off-
_______________________________

Frazier Chorus-Ray cd

In Camera-13 Lucky for some cd (Teenbeat/4AD)

Pixies-Letter to Memphis- us pro-cd

Unrest-Make out club- us pro-cd

V/A-Facing the wrong way- 4AD u.k. sampler in digipak cd

V/A-All virgos are mad- 4AD sampler cd

______________________________

and a few vinyl offerings: (cover graded first then vinyl)

The Breeders-Let's Breed (3 track 7")  M-/M-

Cocteau Twins-I wear your ring (us pro. 12")  VG+/M-

Colin Newman-Provisionally entitled the singing fish-lp (CAD 108)  M-/M-

Jane Siberry-The Walking lp (promo stamp on cvr)  M-/M-

Xmal Deutschland-Devils lp   M-/M-

If interested please respond to me, and of course not the list itself.  I'll
do this for about a week or so, and notify top inquiries thereafter.
If you are need of track listings etc., e-mail me.

Thanks for looking,

Jason

srilank@aol.com


Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 21:58:29 -0800
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@netcom.com)
Subject: unrest promo - cath carrol - for trade


  this isn't mine, though i do own one. swell thing. anyway, my friend
  has this promo and he's looking to trade it for whatever anyone feels
  like trading for it. he thought it would be best to do it on here and
  make a swap, rather than try to sell it off at a local store. i don't
  know what he wants for it, other than "No Unrest!!!"...he's a bit sick of
  them. he also has a 7" for 'bavarian mods' from unrest..clear vinyl,
  perfect condition...i guess he could lump the two together and
  offer them up for trade. anyhoo, if you wanna swap with him, e-mail me...


  k-j

Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 21:48:24 -0800
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@netcom.com)
Subject: ...on the lake, a gentle ripple...


  one of my bestest pals wrote me about many a thing tonight, one of
  those things being the set hnia did with monaural this past weekend.
  here is his description....

  embers,
  k-j

  -----*-----

  "HNIA and Monaural this past saturday were great.  HNIA played all new
  songs...maybe 9 or 10 altogether.  They didn't play a single old one.  It
  was such a lovely, gentle set by them.  Karen's hair's short now...short
  bangs w/hair not quite past her ears.  Wore a silly sort of beret and
  knee-high boots.  voice was flawless.  Warren sat down and played very
  pretty, warm electric guitar...no screeching or squawling.  It was all
  just surprisingly gentle and everyone really loved it.  Trey played
  w/brushes and matt smith from outrageous cherry played these low bassy
  warbles on a little moog.  The lyrics are still very spiritual and some
  are about michigan and the lake.  It's just super to have seen this set
  coming from Warren...I think he's getting out a lot of his prankish and
  noisy urges w/all the Time Stereo stuff he's been involved w/recently."


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:05:07 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: HNIA's next album


does anyone know if ian masters will be doing any guest vox on this?

i know it seems unlikely, but given his recent involvement with time
stereo. . . and of course esp summer.  hey, wait, maybe sbk will resurrect
itself, distribute the album in the us, and attach the entire esp summer
tape on the end as a bonus track.

especially playful,

eric

"watch me fall apart, but leave me with my heart."

Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:32:14 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Seefeel vs Cocteau Twins: Let the flames begin!


On Tue, 7 Nov 1995 BluBelKnol@AOL.COM wrote:

> >Date:  95-11-06 13:30:34 EST
> >From:  soon@UNM.EDU (mesocyclone)
> >
> >Yes, fellow listies, do not compare Seefeel and the Cocteau Twins:
> >Seefeel is easier far better than CT could ever hope to be.
>
> So tell me, are you on drugs? or just some sort of mild brain damage?
> -bbk

That's funny. As it turns out, the Cocteau Twins were using drugs *and*
inflicting upon themselves mild brain damage all during the recording of
your misspelled namesake.

Dumb AOLer!


 einexle9946


Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 23:44:12 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: ein quique guide to Ae


I figger it's been at least a month or two since I did this... :)

(old tracks on AI1 and Volume) - trippy and fun but boring
Incunabula - spooky and nice, lots of beats but very ambient
Basscad,ep - five mixes of same track, but very good stuff, seefeel mix
"Chatter" - track on AI2, hard and trippy and mindblowingwonderful
Amber - dark and icy and menacing compared to Incunabula
Anti - three track ep, weird, not much atmosphere, just kooky and fun
Garbage - awesome, long & pretty, 4 tracks ranging from dancey to ambient
(remix on Scorn's _Elipsis_) - nice atmosphere but a real bore, actually
Anvil Vapre - four songs, very dark cool hard stuff, amazing and a blast
Tri Repetae - haven't heard it but andrew's review is probably right on

My personal favorite is Amber followed by INcunabula and Garbage. I would
say Anvil Vapre but I am too much a pussy to listen to ennjoy it proppa.

Hope this is helpful.


 e


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:47:44 +0100
From: snailhead (Guy.Vandekerckhove@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: Re: Sheer/medicine/Daou=Cool death metal bands!


On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Scott, Mari & Brian wrote:

>     I just heard a sheer song on a sampler, called "Take You Anywhere"
> Anyway I liked it and was wondering if I should get the record/cd

Well Scheer are quite good,isn't it.But they don't have an album out yet,
you'll have to do with their EP 'schism' ,witch is quite good.
I'd say buy it!
About this info:the only thing I know about them,is that they are from
Belfast(N-Ireland) and that they haven't been in any (known) bands
before.

guy

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:03:12 +0100
From: Katy Renick (katy.renick@STUDENT.UNI-TUEBINGEN.DE)
Subject: Re: MACBETH (fwd)


---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:52:44 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: MACBETH


>Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Macbeth's album????<<<


>>Did they ever release an album?  The only song I ever encountered
>>from Macbeth (Gordon Sharp, Robin Guthrie, and someone else) was
>>a cover of "Help Me Lift You Up" my Mary Margaret O'Hara. It was
>>featured in Volume 5 CD/Magazine back in 1992.

this song "Help Me Lift You Up" is on the This Mortal Coil comp., if I'm
not mistaken (and I'm not).
katy.

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:34:48 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Amps & Autechre again


Heffalump  wrote:
 > I saw the Amps open last Sat. when Sonic Youth played on campus
 > here...  Isn't that 'hoverin'' song a breeders song?

Yes - from the last album.  Listened to "Pacer" last night, and my
decision would have been to throw out every second song from "Tipp City"
onwards, but keeping the last one.  Which would have left an excellent 7
track EP.  All the time I was thinking "wish she had taken the paper bag
off her head before singing this one", or "wish they had taken the
trouble to mix this one so I could hear the guitars properly".  There is
no producer on this album, surprise surprise.

"John B. Jones"  wrote:
 > Excuse the me too post, but I too would like some info.  I found
 > a promo of this for NINETY FIVE CENTS at my local cheesy record
 > store, and bought it because I remembered reading good things
 > about them in this list.
 >
 > I took it home, played it, and loved it!!!
 >
 > Question: Is it really classified as techno?  If so, I've never
 > heard techno like this.  It reminds me of drum-machine obsessed
 > Aphex Twin.

Today's question: What Is Techno?  (2000 words by next Friday, please).
Autechre are sometimes dismissed as "armchair techno" by people who
think the only place to listen to music is in a club, Warp's definition
might be "electronic listening music", there's a mailing list dedicated
to "intelligent dance music".  I don't dance, ever, and I can't see how
anyone could dance to most of Autechre's music.  e has posted a potted
discography, and I agree that any of the three albums (Incunabula,
Amber, Tri Repetae) or the "Garbage" EP (4 tracks, 40 minutes) are the
first things to get.

einexile the meek  wrote:
 >
 > My personal favorite is Amber followed by INcunabula and
 > Garbage. I would say Anvil Vapre but I am too much a pussy to
 > listen to ennjoy it proppa.

I listened to it this morning - a little bit brutal for breakfast time,
perhaps.  The album is *much* better, I think.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 08/11/95
On my walkman this morning : Luna - Penthouse
But now I only hear


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:41:19 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: error messages from dump.com


Is everyone still getting these messages? They are starting to piss me
off some.

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 02:07:34 -0800
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: ok, anyone buying projekt stuff lately?


  care to review any of the new offerings? thanatos? or how about that
  xmas cd?

  yeah yeah..i finally got a new catalogue,
  k

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 03:59:41 -0600
From: Sung Shim (foss@STARNETINC.COM)
Subject: Re: Autechre.. _Anvil Vapre_


At 09:34 AM 11/8/95 +0000, you wrote:
> > My personal favorite is Amber followed by INcunabula and
> > Garbage. I would say Anvil Vapre but I am too much a pussy to
> > listen to ennjoy it proppa.
>
>I listened to it this morning - a little bit brutal for breakfast time,
>perhaps.  The album is *much* better, I think.

     for those of you who don't quite enjoy Anvil Vapre because of it's
abrasiveness, (and you have it on vinyl), try it at 33, easier to catch and
appreciate their intricate percussions and rhythms and not as overwhelming
to some.  although i myself find that playing it at high volume on an
efficient pair of speakers to give it the most justice.

toodles
sung

(Lots of Autechre chatter on 4AD, it's sort of a fantasy of mine, them doing
some mixes of 4AD artists.  I chatted with Tanya Donelly a few weeks ago and
brought up Autechre, to my suprise she recognized them but I think my
relentless requests to her to send stuff to Booth/Brown to mix will remain a
fantasy!)
---
  foss@starnetinc.com
  http://www.starnetinc.com/pwp/foss/index.htm


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 06:56:45 -0500
From: KILLMESOON@AOL.COM
Subject: Dewdrops goes vinyl!!!


>>>Dewdrops goes vinyl!<<<

Good! Great! It's about time. Now, when you get the cash, reissue everything
on vinyl (especially Elysium). For the record, I really love them, but I hate
their name.

Phil (ILIKEVINYL but IHATEMILK)

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 06:54:24 -0500
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: FS:FTWW, Frazier Chorus, etc.


Would like info. breakdown on the following (no. of tracks, cat. no., etc.):

Pixies-Letter to Memphis- us pro-cd

Unrest-Make out club- us pro-cd

The Breeders-Let's Breed (3 track 7")  M-/M-


Let me know soon so I can start me bidding.


Thanks,

RBN Ry@aol.com

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:07:20 -0500
From: "careful with that apostrophe, Eugene" (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Seefeel/Cocteaux


>>Yes, fellow listies, do not compare Seefeel and the Cocteau Twins:
>>Seefeel is easier far better than CT could ever hope to be.
>
>So tell me, are you on drugs? or just some sort of mild brain damage?
>-bbk

Oh come on, leave him alone. I don't necessarily agree with him (although I
do think Otherness is better than the last couple of Cocteau releases, even
if it really is a Seefeel EP). Besides, it's not as if someone with an
address like "BluBelKnol" (hmmm...I wonder where *that* came from) could be
expected to be even the least bit critical of CT.

Larry

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:13:00 GMT
From: "Cormac O`Flaherty" (coflaher@thorung.eeng.dcu.ie)
Subject: scheer


I have now seen scheer 4 times (but then again I do live in Ireland, so I
would have, wouldn`t I?).  Anyway they keep getting better and better
    Most of you Americans on the list don`t seem to know too much about
them, so I`1l share my limited knowledge with you.The singer is called Audrey
and they released (I think) 2 ep`s before signing to 4ad, wish you were dead
and another one (possibly howling boy, but I`m not too sure.  Sorry)
Sorry the info is so limited but when I find out some more, I`ll post it asap!

Cormac O`Flaherty
I`m new tothis sorta thing


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:00:05 GMT
From: AKIRA (dicnnghm@TCD.IE)
Subject: scheer exhaustian


I'm not surprised you've seen Scheer 4 times Cormac.
I'm from Dublin and I've seen them 3 times.
They must have gigged every goddam day of the year over the last year.
There was one stage when they played every College event in every college
and where playing in the Rock Garden (R.I.P.) every Wednesday night.
Talk about overkill...
AKIRA (dicnnghm@alf2.tcd.ie)

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 03:05:06 PST
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Cocteau / Seefeel


>>Yes, fellow listies, do not compare Seefeel and the Cocteau Twins:
>>Seefeel is easier far better than CT could ever hope to be.
>
>So tell me, are you on drugs? or just some sort of mild brain damage?
>-bbk

1) You at least can make the comparison. Who the hell are Seefeel / Mark Cliffor
?
I gather some sort of ambient wailing (probably rather good too).

2) I received the 4AD mailing list yesterday valid to July 1994 or was it DEC 94
(I think?). There were
some lovely items I want to buy like Xymox 12"s. There was a deletion list inclu
ed
eg. Medusa. I wonder if anyone can comment on validity of offers. Can you still
get these items. It's a bit of a mission to send plenty pounds only to get them
sent back (I hope). Then again it had the Scheer EP promo pamphlet, so I suppose
they keep up to date re. stocks / availablility etc.

Just warbling
Chris


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:52:51 EST
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.COM)
Subject: Re: Cranes (again)


with all this talk about the cranes, i went home last night and listened to
them for the first time in a while.  what i'm getting at is that i discovered i
have two 'lilies' promotional e.p.'s.  i would like to trade the extra for some-
thing.  e-mail me directly if anyone wants it.

alan
alan@msai.com

        1. lilies(flood mix)
        2. brighter
        3. casa blanca
        4. shine like stars
        5. leave her to heaven
        6. paris and rome(flood mix)

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:53:12 GMT
From: Anthony John Bailey (baileya@CS.MAN.AC.UK)
Subject: Saint Etienne

              digest processor on Wed, 8 Nov 1995 00:02:59 -0500)

Hello,

Larry answered somebody who asked about an old Etienne singer:
>> Actually I meant the girl who sings on "Only Love Can Break Your Heart".
> Umm...I think that's Sarah Cracknell. I was just reading about how when
> they went for their first recording session, they didn't have any original
> material, so they did "Only Love..." and "Kiss and Make Up".

The story is correct, but it ain't Sarah; the first single she sang on
was "Nothing Can Stop Us". The vocalist in question is Moira Lambert,
who sang with All About Eve-ish Croydon band Faith Over Reason.

Originally the question was: what is said vocalist doing now? I know
Faith Over Reason made a few records, but I think they gave it up a
while back. Moira was living in Brighton the last I heard, but all
this information may well be out of date.

@*=---=*@@*=---=*@ "F, E, E, L, I N G;  C A, double L, E D;  L, O, V, E;
|    Anthony.    |  what's this thing that's happening to me?"
@*=---=*@@*=---=*@ http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~baileya/Pulp/


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:57:41 -0500
From: Initialboy@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: HNIA's next album


>does anyone know if ian masters will be doing any guest vox on this?

>From what I've gathered, the only collaborative work of Ian and Warren is ESP
Summer.  There is, however, a Farfisa song on the new album (Farfisa.
 Farfisa good.).

>i know it seems unlikely, but given his recent involvement with time
>stereo. . . and of course esp summer.  hey, wait, maybe sbk will resurrect
>itself, distribute the album in the us, and attach the entire esp summer
>tape on the end as a bonus track.


Cheers,


hk

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:57:39 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Dewdrops goes vinyl!!!


>>>>Dewdrops goes vinyl!<<<
>
>Good! Great! It's about time. Now, when you get the cash, reissue everything
>on vinyl (especially Elysium). For the record, I really love them, but I hate
>their name.
>
>Phil (ILIKEVINYL but IHATEMILK)

What about Elysium 3? Well, maybe they'll have to change their name anyway,
because there is a rather huge techno/ambient act from Danmark called
Elysium too! (they did 2 succesfull albums so far).

Frank


++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:21:12 -0500
From: BluBelKnol@AOL.COM
Subject: Seefeel vs Cocteau Twins: The thread continues



>That's funny. As it turns out, the Cocteau Twins were using drugs *and*
>inflicting upon themselves mild brain damage all during the recording of
>your misspelled namesake.

yet another correction for a non-AOLer:  It was only Robin who was having
difficulty during that time and began using narcotics.  At least he had the
courage to admit to himself he had a problem and loose the habit.

And despite the drug use, they were able to put out one of their greatest
pieces of work,  (aforementioned Blue Bell Knoll) FAR surpassing anything
Seefeel ever, or ever shall put out.

-BBK


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:23:24 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lush


Y
>You could contact _reality_, the keeper of the discography. I send him
a copy
>for the now infamous _fLUSH_ compilation tape.


What is the fLUSH compilation tape?


                        Brian


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:37:41 -0800
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: St. Etienne


>
>If you can't find 'Life,' I'd be happy to trade you a tape of the disc
for a
>tape of the Dubstar album.

hopefully, i will be able to find a copy... but if not, sure! also, if
i find one and you still would like a copy of the Dubstar CD i would be
happy to dub it for you if you sent me a blank tape... i can also dub
you their two singles "stars" and "anywhere" both have very good dance
remixes and "anywhere" has a bonus track.


                            -satori-

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:43:09 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: TMC sample in WFO?


e writes:
>I'm talking about the first track on Excusions in Ambience: The Second
>Orbit, "No One in the World" by WFO. Is this a This Mortal Coil sample
>here? It souns like one but I can't place the source. The lyric, for the
>/ Nowhere in this where could there be a love as pure as my love." Who
>is/are WFO, anyway? This is a killer song.

Woohoohoohoo! I'll be the first to admit that TMC can be more than a bit
syrupy at times, but WFO are in fact sampling THE CARPENTERS, from the
hit song "Hurting Each Other". That's the melliflous, anorexic tones of
Karen Carpenter you're grooving to there.

It _is_ a killer track. If you doubt that a long Carpenters sample can be
crafted into a killer nine minutes of ambient techno, just take a listen.
I've never heard anything else by WFO, though. This isn't really the
right list to be asking on, but does anyone know?

____________
Jens Alfke |__________________      He was once a little round ball of cells
            jens@mooseyard.com   Now he makes loud noises & sometimes smells

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:05:31 -0700
From: "M. Wade Chamberlainn" (chamberlainw@YVAX.BYU.EDU)
Subject: brenden perry/mojave/hnia


Does anybody know what the hell happened to Brenden's solo album?
Postponed indefinitely?  Is anyone else distraut?  I must know.

Are HNIA and Mojave on tour or did they just play New Mexico?


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:50:54 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: 4AD Catalogue


I sent in a money order to 4AD UK for the catalogue around October 9th.  I
haven't recieved anything yet, and I was just wondering if anyone in the US
knows about how long it should take to get here.

Jake

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:46:37 -0800
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Super 31 / Aberdeen


Kelly might have posted this here already:

Thursday (tomorrow night) at 9pm
Hell's Gate, Hollywood
Super 31
Aberdeen
8 Page Story

Also, Jane Siberry is playing at the Wadsworth on Nov 13.


|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:03:41 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g.e.)" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Amps & Autechre


On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Heffalump wrote:

> I saw the Amps open last Sat. when Sonic Youth played on campus here...
> Isn't that 'hoverin'' song a breeders song?

Yup...it's a b-side to Divine Hammer, and the best song on Pacer, IMO.

Strick9

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:57:39 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Sheer/medicine/Daou=Cool death metal bands!


>Well Scheer are quite good,isn't it.But they don't have an album out yet,
>you'll have to do with their EP 'schism' ,witch is quite good.
>I'd say buy it!

Funny how all the initial posts I saw about Scheer talked about how terrible
they are, and now more all the closet Scheer fans are starting to come out
en masse.  Personally I've liked them since I heard them on TIGTHOI, but hey,
that's just me...

Jake

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:00:34 -0500
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: MACBETH (fwd)


this song "Help Me Lift You Up" is on the This Mortal Coil comp., if I'm
not mistaken (and I'm not).
katy

-------


DUH. Gordon Sharp and Robin Guthrie did yet ANOTHER version of that song
under the name Macbeth, and that particular version was featured on the
Volume 5 CD.  This Mortal Coil's version, which appeared on "Blood", was
arranged by Jon Turner and performed by Caroline Crawley and Deirdre
Rutkowski.  We're talking about two different cover versions of the
same song.


Mike
iceblink@delphi.com


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:01:12 -0500
From: Initialboy@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: brenden perry/mojave/hnia


>Are HNIA and Mojave on tour or did they just play New Mexico?

Neither apparently.  Looks like that show in Mexico City got cancelled at the
last minute.  However, HNIA did play a special show in Detroit to try to make
up for it (I think one of the stipulations for that show was to have the
venue's flyers have the band name in Spanish...).

As far as poor Mr. Perry goes... funny, I was just wondering the exact same
thing the other day.

Cheers,


hk
--
"I'm wasted, I'm fried, I'm a fool, I'm a liar, but I need you to hold me
again." - Mojave (3, natch!)

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:39:48 -0800
From: [suppressed]
Subject: Re: MACBETH (fwd)


On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear wrote:

> this song "Help Me Lift You Up" is on the This Mortal Coil comp., if I'm
> not mistaken (and I'm not).
> katy
>
> -------
>
>
> DUH. Gordon Sharp and Robin Guthrie did yet ANOTHER version of that song
> under the name Macbeth, and that particular version was featured on the
> Volume 5 CD.  This Mortal Coil's version, which appeared on "Blood", was
> arranged by Jon Turner and performed by Caroline Crawley and Deirdre
> Rutkowski.  We're talking about two different cover versions of the
> same song.
>
>
> Mike
> iceblink@delphi.com
>
Does anyone have more info on this?  What's MacBeth and what's the Volume
5 CD?  Is Macbeth a song name, or a group?

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:44:14 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Joy Division sacred?


>I'd have to say nope to that one. It is horrible to hear others cover their
>songs though (i.e. Swans cover of "Love Will Tear Us Apart" circa 1988). Sort

I'm a Joy Division fan, and I thought the Swans' cover(s) of "Love Will
Tear Us Apart" were much better than the original, which had unbelievably
cheesy synth-pop instrumentation. The Swans brought to it the gloom and
slowness that it really deserved all along.

____________
Jens Alfke |__________________      He was once a little round ball of cells
            jens@mooseyard.com   Now he makes loud noises & sometimes smells

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:19:36 -0500
From: BlissedJ@AOL.COM
Subject: Mojave(3)


i have a promo cd of Mojave "ask me tomorrow". if you're interested, make me
an offer.

BlissedJ@aol.com

oh, for anyone having a problem finding a copy of "think i'm getting the hang
of it", i have one of those as well.

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:38:12 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Medicine Broke up?/dorky bands I like


    Did Medicine break up, I thought I heard something to that effect a
while ago. Oh yeah here are the dorky bands I mentioned that nobody
else here likes but me:

9.) Veruca Salt
2.) Bow wow wow
3.) Scheer
4.) Metalica "Meticalla"
5.) Cathrene Wheel
6.) Belly "Star" (the good one)
7.) Chris Issak
8.) Smashing Pumpkins
1.) Lush
10.) Lemonheads
 There I preety much out of the closet, I feel so free!


                            Brian


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:28:46 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM) > >Funny how all the initial posts I saw about Scheer talked about how terrible >they are, and now more all the closet Scheer fans are starting to come out >en masse. Personally I've liked them since I heard them on TIGTHOI, but hey, >that's just me... > >Jake > Listen, I would have liked to have defended Scheer when they were being bashed but I did'nt know who they were, but I think there good and and if anybody says otherwise they can suck "El Schlongo" Sure not very intelligent but it gets the point across:-) Brian

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:39:09 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD Catalogue


You wrote:
>
>I sent in a money order to 4AD UK for the catalogue around October
9th.  I haven't recieved anything yet, and I was just wondering if
anyone in the US knows about how long it should take to get here.
>
I sent my money in July, Nothing yet! But they did cash my check A
month ago so maybe thats a good sign. If it helps I life in Southern
California, so if you live abroad than it might be awhile longer.


                                        Brian

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:22:48 -0500
From: Andrew Massey (andie@AMASS.DEMON.CO.UK)
Subject: Re. Xymox


>2) I received the 4AD mailing list yesterday valid to July 1994 or was it DEC
>94 (I think?). There were
>some lovely items I want to buy like Xymox 12"s. There was a deletion list
>included
>eg. Medusa. I wonder if anyone can comment on validity of offers. Can you still
>get these items. It's a bit of a mission to send plenty pounds only to get them
>sent back (I hope). Then again it had the Scheer EP promo pamphlet, so I
>suppose
>they keep up to date re. stocks / availablility etc.
>
>Just warbling
>Chris

Doesn't everyone know that 4AD has a mail order catalogue, which, unless I
wasn't notified, still has all the stuff (Clan of) Xymox did on 4AD
available in it?

Me? I want the really rare stuff like Natures Mortes. Any (reasonable) sales?
Please...

Andie


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:09:51 -0700
From: ".mark." (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: Re: Elysium and Dd thank you / christmas release


On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Brant Dewdrops wrote:


> What's currently in the works at our label is a 7", possibly
> released in time for Christmas (but at this point, it's best
> not to hold your breath). If not in time for Christmas, then
> it'll happen shortly afterward. The single will feature 4 tracks--
> a new Elysium song called "Christmas", a "new" song from Orange
                             ^^^^^^^^^
oh boy!  ohboy!  oh boy!  my prayers may yet be answered! :)

        .mark....who's been dreaming of hearing that song again for weeks now.

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:55:11 -0500
From: Kevhin Kean (Spider1327@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: error messages from dump.com


i am.  what the hell are they?


teho-
kk

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:05:09 -0800
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Seefeel vs Cocteau Twins: The thread continues


BluBelKnol@aol.com wrote:
>And despite the drug use, they were able to put out one of their greatest
>pieces of work,  (aforementioned Blue Bell Knoll) FAR surpassing anything
>Seefeel ever, or ever shall put out.

This is a really lame argument, verging on flamebait. Do you have a point
here, or are you trying to add some much-needed noise to this mailing
list? I really don't like to generalize about AOL members (I was one once
back in the dark ages, and my sister is one) but you're really doing a
nice job of proving all the stereotypes true. "Cocteau Twins TOTALLY
RULE! Seefeel SUCK!"

My own take? Both have release some really lame material ("Four-Calendar
Cafe" for CT, most of "Succour" and the "Blackcore" tracks for Seefeel)
and both have release really wonderful and transcendent moments of pure
musical bliss (say, "Head Over Heels" and "Polyfusia".) Of course,
Seefeel's shining moment was ten years later than the Cocteaux, so it
sticks in ones short-term memory a bit more.

And as I recall, this whole annoying thread came about because
BluBlKnl183654 disagreed with someone's comparison of the two bands. I'd
definitely say there are comparisons to be made, and that Seefeel are
self-evidently in debt to the Cocteaux. Not so much for specific vocal
sounds, more for instrumental textures. And both bands are big fans of
each other. Now what's the point in dissing a band just because someone
dares compare them to your favorites?

____________
Jens Alfke |__________________      He was once a little round ball of cells
            jens@mooseyard.com   Now he makes loud noises & sometimes smells

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:08:45 -0800
From: "Elvia M. Tarango" (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: RHP


All you Northern California RHP fans, come out, come out wherever you
are....Eunice, I- see- you. Got some info. E-mail me.

Elvia

(elvia@uclink3.berkeley.edu)


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:26:36 -0800
From: "Linda A. B. Snyder" (labs@XYZZY.CTS.COM)
Subject: Re: Otherness


Spin records informed me yesterday that they'd finally located Snow for me.
When I got there they said, "I don't know if you're interested, but we
got Otherness in today also."  Great shopping day.  They were both fairly
cheap for imports(Otherness was only about $9).
Otherness is so strange to hear after twinlights.  The only way I can
describe it is to compare the albums to two divergent trains of thought;
one fairly clear-cut and the other gently twisted.
Seekers Who Are Lovers doesn't live up to its cool name.
Feet Like Fins doesn't resemble the original much, but the music is haunting
none the less.
The original Cherry Coloured Funk is one of my favorites.  The
intro to this one sounds pretty, but it drags.  I'd rather hear the whole
song's worth of lyrics than a few phrases on top of one another.
The beat of Violaine pounds into your head the way rap songs sometimes
do, but with Violaine I welcome the intrusion.  This song is the least
repetative new track, and is definitely my favorite.
Each song is interesting, but I'm not as excited about Otherness as I've
been about every other CT work when I got it.  Well, expect the
unexpected from the Cocteau Twins.