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Subject: help please
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:28:41 +0100
From: "To my, wesole pomidorki" (FISHY@RAMZES.UMCS.LUBLIN.PL)
Subject: Re: Dust Brothers
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:22:53 -0700
From: mesocyclone (soon@UNM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Medicine vs Garbage again/Ladykiller
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:57:01 -0500
From: Naomi M Glina (SuprSwirly@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: The CONTINUATION of 4AD, v23
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:58:42 -0500
From: "[Deleted]" (robertfo@UOGUELPH.CA)
Subject: Re: CD sale / Dr. Death / Snowdrops
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:27:34 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: The Holy Single
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:18:30 GMT
From: "K. Bruner" (napalm@MINCE.UGCS.CALTECH.EDU)
Subject: public service/space
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:17:07 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: (Re: etienne) & (Otherness)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:06:06 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: (Re- etienne) & (Othern
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:03:55 -0800
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Re: this is how you save 4 a d
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:07:06 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g.e.)" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Felt fans unite!
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:04:30 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g.e.)" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re[2]: CD sale / Dr. Death / Snowdrops
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:02:39 CST
From: thad.engeling@CCQM.NATINST.COM
Subject: Re: The Holy Single
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:55:08 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Local Delivery Error
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 10:25:45 EST
From: sysop@dump.com
Subject: Re: this is how you save 4 a d
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:49:52 -0600
From: Michael C lawyer (lamic@HOMER.ACS.BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bauhaus
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:12:28 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g.e.)" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Felt fans unite!
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:33:28 -0500
From: "tOM." (tom@BEAVIS.IRESEARCH.COM)
Subject: Re: Lush
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:05:12 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: CD sale / Dr. Death / Snowdrops
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:42:34 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: Local Delivery Error (fwd)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:38:48 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: spiritualized tonight...help
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:18:12 -0800
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Dust Brothers
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:45:47 -0600
From: John Roseborough (jrose@AUSTIN.METROWERKS.COM)
Subject: Time Stereo
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:11:09 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: The Rest Of Joy Division
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:14:41 -0500
From: Ashu Rai (AshuR93236@AOL.COM)
Subject: The Glee Club???
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:57:54 -0800
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Tarnation/Warren Defever
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:55:07 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Elysium
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:24:08 -0700
From: "M. Wade Chamberlainn" (chamberlainw@YVAX.BYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bruce?!
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:21:16 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: a different subject line, now
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:39:15 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: The Holy Single
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 03:30:51 GMT
From: "K. Bruner" (napalm@AVARICE.UGCS.CALTECH.EDU)

Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:28:41 +0100
From: "To my, wesole pomidorki" (FISHY@RAMZES.UMCS.LUBLIN.PL)
Subject: help please


Hi!
This is my third polite request.
could you be so kind and tell me how to unsubscribe?
I have tried the addresses I had found in FAQ, but they does not
work. Please answer me privately with  in the subject
line.
        Thanx

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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:22:53 -0700
From: mesocyclone (soon@UNM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Dust Brothers


  There's a couple of techno newsgroups you could join on the usenet, if
ya wanted.  You know, tyhe typical alt.tdechno or alt, .rave.rave thing.
If youre interested.....

******************************************************************************

                                   A.I.D.S.
              We are all infected because we are all affected.........

                                  *********
                     Will Coucheron-Aamot a.k.a. soon@unm.edu
  MBV, medicine, seefeel, flying saucer attack, slowdive, lovesliescrushing
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:57:01 -0500
From: Naomi M Glina (SuprSwirly@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Medicine vs Garbage again/Ladykiller


larry wrote:

>USA, Tripping Daisy et al, but they seem to just be going >through the
>motions of being a noise-pop band. Nois
etc.

Has anyone heard the track from tripping daisy called -i think -phiranahs?
 Does anyone else think its a blatant rip off of One More from medicines SFSL
album?- Only with jhonny Lydon doing vocals?  Just me?

nomi


Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:58:42 -0500
From: "[Deleted]" (robertfo@UOGUELPH.CA)
Subject: Re: The CONTINUATION of 4AD, v23


On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, 'H'y wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, cz wrote:
>
> 'Otherness =  Seefeel minus thought'
>
> I was meaning that the new ep by the Cocteau Twins who aren't on 4ad
> anymore (well not for a couple of years in fact) sounds to me like Seefeel (
> although I'm no expert on Seefeel). Although, from what I've heard of
> Seefeel they are more imaginative than this current CT offering.
> OBTW - I know Seefeel aren't on 4ad.
>
Otherness was mixed by Mark Clifford of Seefeel.  So are you criticizing
the cocteaux or seefeel or both?

just curious.

i *love* otherness, by the way....

rawb.


Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:27:34 -0800
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: CD sale / Dr. Death / Snowdrops


On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Igor V Boronenkov wrote:

> Dr.Death vol.III  2cd (one instrumental)  marvels of insect life  $14
>      (M-1 aternative, Hex,Area,Johanna's House of glamour, controlled
>       bleeding)

Just a lil correction: This is actually volume IV, not III. (It's good,
though.)

Does anyone have vol. VI or know what's on it or where I can find it?

Also, what's up with Handful of Snowdrops? Did that third studio album
ever actually come out?

e

Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:18:30 GMT
From: "K. Bruner" (napalm@MINCE.UGCS.CALTECH.EDU)
Subject: The Holy Single


So what do people think of this?  I got my copy yesterday.  It's pleasant
listening, even though I'm not religious.  I do find it a little odd that
Kristin didn't write any of the songs, and that the "Counting Backwards"
arrangement of "Amazing Grace" showed up, as well as the dinosaur
"Sinkhole."

Does anyone know if Kristin is really religious?


The Official Great Goddess To Whom You Do Beg of Dogbert's New Ruling Class
--
Be careful what you pretend to be because you are what you pretend to be.
                                        --Kurt Vonnegut

Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:17:07 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: public service/space


i picked up that space cd i mentioned on the list, but i've already
arranged a trade.  however, i will be willing to dub it for anyone sending
me a blank tape and two bucks for postage (or 1.55 if you're stingy, as
that's the exact amount).  depending on what the recipient of the cd says,
and when i receive your tape, it will be either a first or second
generation (off of my copy, silly) dub.

for those of you who don't recall, space is j. cauty of the klf.  it's very
good ambient-ish type stuff.  a few people had asked if i could check liner
notes, etc., to see where they could get a copy.  bad news kids.  no liner
notes, no copyright date.  only says:

written by space for klf communications (j. cauty) e.g. music recorded at
trancetral

made in england
distributed by the cartel

i'm going to try talking to the manager at the store i bought it from, but
i can't promise anything.

oh, my address:

eric wittmershaus
305 n frances st #210
madison, wi 53703
usa

oh, and clear it with me b4 you send a tape.

thanks all,

and goodday/night

i will be offline 'till sunday.

feel free to forward this to any possible interested parties.

eric

"in our christian society there's something wrong with having pleasure.
pleasure more precisely is called sin."
        -stereolab "perversion"


Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:06:06 +0000
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: (Re: etienne) & (Otherness)

              Bailey" at Nov 2, 95 02:28:02 pm

Anthony John Bailey  wrote:
>
> Incidentally, anyone else really *like* the new single? A bit of
> Euro-tesco with real class. Yes!

I'm starting to feel a bit guilty about comparing it to Whigfield.
After a few listens, it has really got stuck in my brain.  Like a lot of
StEtienne songs, it's actually quite sad if you listen to the lyrics
rather than the happy bouncy music.

>
> To regain 4ad-content, I'd better pass some remarks on "Otherness". The
> guy in the record shop said "Oh, yeah, it's just like their older
> stuff." What??? It's just like Seefeel's older stuff, maybe! I really
> like the ep, although I wouldn't have minded more Cocteaus input - it
> comes across as Seefeel with Liz guesting on vocals to me.

I wonder how many people will buy this and miss the "(recycled symbol)
Mark Clifford" writing.  It's really a Seefeel/Clifford EP using the
Twins as source material, and I think some people's poor opinions of it
have arisen from their expecting it to be the Cocteau Twins with minor
tweaking by Clifford.

> I was hoping
> for something in the style of "Watchlar". Very nice, though. And
> "Violaine" sounds as if it will work well as a regular Cocteaus track too.

I also like the way "Violaine" has lyrics in ancient Lithuanian or
something similarly incomprehensible.

>
> @*=---=*@@*=---=*@ "F, E, E, L, I N G;  C A, double L, E D;  L, O, V, E;
> |    Anthony.    |  what's this thing that's happening to me?"
> @*=---=*@@*=---=*@ http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~baileya/Pulp/

"Different Class" is a great album, though I still prefer "Intro".

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 02/11/95
On my walkman this morning : Pulp - Different Class
Hearing it by this distant northern sea.

Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:03:55 -0800
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: Re: (Re- etienne) & (Othern


                      RE>>(Re: etienne) & (Otherness)              11/2/95

I thought they'd broken up last year, or something about Sarah Cracknell
leaving for a solo career. Anyone?

NB
-------------------------------------------


> Incidentally, anyone else really *like* the new single? A bit of
> Euro-tesco with real class. Yes!

Is this the one entitled "Hug My Soul"?  I'm enjoying it immensely.  I really
like St. Etienne.  Where have they been all my life?  :O


marvynHortman                 ftp://sharedcast.hccs.cc.tx.us
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:07:06 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g.e.)" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: this is how you save 4 a d


Sounds like you've got the basis there for your very own record label,
k-j.   Don't try to recreate an already existing label.  If you are
unsatisfied, I say go for it!  Start a label!  You could call it twee
records or something :) :) :)

Strick9

Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:04:30 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g.e.)" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Felt fans unite!


On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, Russell Martin wrote:

> >Are there other Felt fans out there,
> >speak up!
> >
> >--


Which Felt?  Those weird guys that did the beautiful song 'Primitive
Painters' with Liz Fraser?  I don't like them very much although I love
that song.

Or is it the other Felt?  The band that just recently released an album?
I've never heard them.

Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:02:39 CST
From: thad.engeling@CCQM.NATINST.COM
Subject: Re[2]: CD sale / Dr. Death / Snowdrops


> Does anyone have vol. VI or know what's on it or where I can find it?

Vol VI is called Floribundus

The track listing is:
1. Eleven Shadows -- 56 in 81
2. Myself a Living Torch -- Mermaid of Marin
3. Collection D'Arnell Andrea -- Une Attente Fragile
4. M-1 Alternative -- Dilemma
5. Ten Wings -- Special
6. Dazzle Painting -- Shift
7. Breathless -- Over and Over
8. Johanna's House of Glamour -- Industrial Beach
9. Eden -- Healingbow
10. Tel Basta -- Watering the Seed
11. Ivory Library -- Adams Street
12. Psychowelders -- VHVH
13. Judgement of Paris -- Bridge
14. Muzzle -- Orphans
15. M-1 Alternative -- Roasseau's Rainbow
16. Grace Darling -- Victoria Knows
17. Judgement of Paris -- Floribundus (Main Theme)

> Also, what's up with Handful of Snowdrops? Did that third studio album
> ever actually come out?

As far as I know, it never did. If it does, it will probably not
be on C'est la Mort, since Woody has decided to pretty much move
out of the music business.

Oh, yeah, e, if you read this, I still have your copy of the Ultra
Vivid Scene live tape. Let me know if you want it.
Also, could I persuade you to send me your Fax rating guide, that
you sent out many months ago? I can't find the copy I thought I
had saved to disc.

later on,
Thad
"This isn't death, this is just a textural event"

Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:55:08 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: The Holy Single


> So what do people think of this?  I got my copy yesterday.  It's pleasant
> listening, even though I'm not religious.  I do find it a little odd that
> Kristin didn't write any of the songs, and that the "Counting Backwards"
> arrangement of "Amazing Grace" showed up, as well as the dinosaur
> "Sinkhole."

        Then who wrote "Sinkhole"? I thought that was an old Hersh
composition from when she was 14 or so.

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=  - Mike Watt                     )    Disappear"                     =
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= lay down and die?" - Juliana Hatfield                                =
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:14:52 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g.e.)" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Local Delivery Error (fwd)


Hmmmm... got this weird message after posting to the list...anyone know
what's going on??


---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 10:25:45 EST
From: sysop@dump.com
Subject: Local Delivery Error


This message was automatically generated by Major Gateway/Internet:

The message you sent was improperly addressed.
User "multiple" does not exist on this system.

Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:49:52 -0600
From: Michael C lawyer (lamic@HOMER.ACS.BETHEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: this is how you save 4 a d


>Sounds like you've got the basis there for your very own record label,
>k-j.   Don't try to recreate an already existing label.  If you are
>unsatisfied, I say go for it!  Start a label!  You could call it twee
>records or something :) :) :)
Once we actually start playing, you could sign the kumQuats!

Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:12:28 -0800
From: "J Beswick (c.l.g.e.)" (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Bauhaus


>
> Which tracks were on that?  Is it similar to the 'in the flat field' album
> cover art?


Hmmm... it's about 5 or 6 songs.  I'm working from memory here...

Terror Couple Kill Colonel
Telegram Sam
She's in Parties (?????)

I don't really remember what's on it, but the cover is a photo called
'Masks'.  It's very nice.  One of those elegant minimalist type thingys...

Strick9

Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:33:28 -0500
From: "tOM." (tom@BEAVIS.IRESEARCH.COM)
Subject: Re: Felt fans unite!

              unite!" (Nov  2, 10:04am)

On Nov 2, 10:04am, J Beswick (c.l.g.e.) wrote:
> Subject: Re: Felt fans unite!
> On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, Russell Martin wrote:
>
> > >Are there other Felt fans out there,
> > >speak up!
> > >
> > >--
>
>
> Which Felt?  Those weird guys that did the beautiful song 'Primitive
> Painters' with Liz Fraser?  I don't like them very much although I love
> that song.
>

indeed the one.  Too bad you don't like 'em, or as someone here said, "It's
an aquired taste".

> Or is it the other Felt?  The band that just recently released an album?
> I've never heard them.

Never heard OF this, much less heard it either.




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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:05:12 -0800
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lush


You wrote:
>
>Hi there!
>
>> Hey, I just heard Ladykiller and it sounds just like elastica...Is
the
>> whole new album like this?
>
>>         Brian
>
>uh-oh...
>
>I guess if this is true , there will be a lot of people dissing Lush
for copying
>Elastica. But IMHO some  Elastica songs sounded a *lot* like very
early Lush
>(Stutter = Female Hybrid if you ask me) ...


Don't you run that lush page? It's pretty good actually......
Do you know when they'll get more on baby talk?

Anyway where could I find the '88 demo? Do you know who sells it?

                                    Brian

Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:42:34 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: Re[2]: CD sale / Dr. Death / Snowdrops


> Also, could I persuade you to send me your Fax rating guide, that
> you sent out many months ago? I can't find the copy I thought I
> had saved to disc.

yeah, I lost my copy as well...could you just maybe post it to the list?

I think you gave "alien community" pretty high marks if I remember, but I don't
remember any of the others...


marvynHortman

PS Thanks Thad; Parasol records did the trick.  I got a copy of EOST "FreeD" on
its way.  (and I'm still enjoying that Breathless tape you made me a couple of
years ago!)


Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:38:48 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Local Delivery Error (fwd)


>Hmmmm... got this weird message after posting to the list...anyone know
>what's going on??


Well, I looked at the output, thought about it for a while, looked at some
similar things I'd seen before, and came to a conclusion.

american.edu has a crack habit.

Jake

Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:18:12 -0800
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: spiritualized tonight...help


  can someone give me info on how much the show is and what time it starts?
  i was planning on going until the brakes in my car severed, but i
  may still be able to go if i can get the info in time. all i know is it's
  at the whiskey...right? jOHN will be there, as will e veryone who's
  anyone. i was really jazzed about going... :( so either i hitch a late
  ride, or i pray the temporary fix job my grandfather did will get me
  to la and back safely...


  k

Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:45:47 -0600
From: John Roseborough (jrose@AUSTIN.METROWERKS.COM)
Subject: Re: Dust Brothers


>Does anyone out there know how to obtain Dust Brothers on l.p or CD?

Go to Tower Records, last I saw it was on sale (CD) for $11.99.

>Is there a techno list out there for me to join?

There are several techno mailing lists.  See the URL below for more info:


Here are some of the ones listed there.

       The Ambient Music Mailing List
       Analogue Heaven
       313: The Detroit Techno Mailing List
       IDM: The Intelligent Dance Music Mailing List
       Lowlands: The Dutch Techno Mailing List
       The Gabber Mailing List
       The List of Rave Lists
       The List of Musical Mailing Lists

John

>Just drinking my latte in Berkeley.
>
>Fred/Derf
>
>(c/o elvia@uclink3.berkley.edu)

 ____________________________________________________________________
john roseborough                jrose@metrowerks.com

     Beauty is ever to the lonely mind
     A shadow fleeting; she is never plain.
     She is a visitor who leaves behind
     The gift of grief, the souvenir of pain.

     Robert Nathan (1894-1985)
     U.S. novelist
     Beauty Is Ever to the Lonely Mind

Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:11:09 -0800
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Time Stereo


Does anyone have the list of Time Stereo tapes for sale that was posted
about a month ago?  I inadvertantly deleted my copy.

Thanks,
Jake
reicja00@dons.ac.usfca.edu


Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:14:41 -0500
From: Ashu Rai (AshuR93236@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: The Rest Of Joy Division


this sounds as bad as the recent A Means to an End, covers of Joy Division
songs.  btw, check out Evelyn McDonnell's recent article on the band and this
horrible compilation in the November issue of Interview.

Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:57:54 -0800
From: Nadim Baki-Zada (nadimbz@2LAUNCH.COM)
Subject: The Glee Club???


I have the Glee Club album called MINE. I know they have a few singles out,
but any other albums, do they still exist?

NB

Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:55:07 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Tarnation/Warren Defever


I found the piece below on the Indie-List (Vol. 4 No. 43). It's a snippet
from an interview with Paula Frazer (Tarnation). She was interviewed in
Amsterdam by pjoe@grafix.xs4all.nl, during her first promotional tour around
Europe.

"... You might think it's weird that 4AD would pick up a band like this.
"First only Warner was interested in us, but they gave a tape to 4AD's
label owner, Ivo Watts.  When he finally listened he contracted us.
He likes female voices a lot." After that Ivo tried to give Tarnation
a direction.  "He wanted me to make a solo record.  But I wanted to do
an album with the band." There's still a lot of solo work on Gentle
Creatures, a record produced by His Name Is Alive wizard Warren
Defever, among others.  "That was Ivo's idea.  A good idea, but it
didn't work out as I liked.  Warren wanted to keep everything bare and
clear, while I like a bit of reverb.  And he didn't have the right
kind of mics.  My favorite moments aren't the sessions with Warren.
We were in his house for a week and it gave a lot of tension in the
band." The band split right after the sessions.  "But I've found three
new band members.  We're still using the name Tarnation, but it sounds
a lot more dynamic.  A bit louder, but still reserved.  A lot of
contrast, I think it sounds better than the last Tarnation."

One of the things Paula is very content about is the artwork 4AD did
for the album.  "I think Paul of 4AD has done a wonderful job.  The
pictures were made by a guy from Portland and seem very old and weird,
the pale colours give just the right effect.  I'm glad 4AD has taken
care of that; we couldn't have done it any better," she says."

Frank


++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++

Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:24:08 -0700
From: "M. Wade Chamberlainn" (chamberlainw@YVAX.BYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Elysium


Elysium are one of the best bands I've  heard in a long time! and they
also put on an increadible live show. I saw them rececntly here in Provo
and I was  fully immeresed in the beauty of the preformance!  Jen, the
lead singer has one of the most captivating and alluring voices I've ever
heard. And she is backed by brilliant guitar work.  Not to mention great
bass playing by John West!  If you are a fan of bands like The Glee Club
and Cocteau Twins you'll love Elysium!  Their CD "Glisten" ranks high on my
all time best list>  Altough I hope they include a cover of the Placenta
classic Cheeseburger on their next release!

Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:21:16 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Bruce?!


> Bruce?! There's no one in CW named Bruce. You mean Rob, Rob Dickinson.
> Bruce Dickinson is his uncle, the former singer of Iron Maiden. Unless
> there was something very strange going on at that show...

        Aren't the two Dickinsons cousins? That's what I heard.

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=  - Mike Watt                     )    Disappear"                     =
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:39:15 -0800
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: a different subject line, now


Simon wrote:
> Then there's the very quiet bit right at the end of "The Eternal" on Joy
> Division's Closer where we find out what those men with weight on their
> shoulders are really like.

        I've had this album for about five years but haven't heard what
you're referring to. What is it? I'll have to listen for it next time.

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= themselves against the 70's!"    (  - His Name Is Alive, "Why People =
=  - Mike Watt                     )    Disappear"                     =
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= "If life is a performance, and I am not an actor, am I supposed to   =
= lay down and die?" - Juliana Hatfield                                =
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 03:30:51 GMT
From: "K. Bruner" (napalm@AVARICE.UGCS.CALTECH.EDU)
Subject: Re: The Holy Single


Micah Newman  writes:

>        Then who wrote "Sinkhole"? I thought that was an old Hersh
>composition from when she was 14 or so.

On the single, it's credited to her father, W. J. Hersh.


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