4ad-l Mail for 10-26-1995

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Subject: haha..
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:43:30 -0700
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: 4ad cd auction (singles and full length)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 23:58:22 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: ...latest rough version of hnia discog...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:14:26 -0700
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@netcom.com)
Subject: keep the bids to yourself!
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 22:49:15 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: swirling swirlies swirled
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 00:03:51 -0700
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: 4ad cd auction (singles and full length)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 12:47:34 CST
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4ad cd auction (singles and full length)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 06:17:55 -0700
From: David Stack (dstack@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:12:24 -0100
From: somewhere@ANYWHERE.UNI
Subject: Re: space, spaceman3
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 11:19:37 -0400
From: EZ (st953km8@DUNX1.OCS.DREXEL.EDU)
Subject: LG at Virgin tonight
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 11:51:46 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: belly, catherine wheel (long)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 02:42:22 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: otherness or what?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 15:05:39 -0700
From: Laura M Watling (watlingl@WATMAIL.UCR.EDU)
Subject: Hidden track on Scheer CD-EP/ Cat. number trivia
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 23:26:25 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Air Miami 'Fuck You Tiger' 12"
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 00:20:12 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: *Otherness release date*
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:08:18 -0700
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Tindersticks "Live" CD '95
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 19:59:44 -0400
From: Jay Senese (JaySenese@AOL.COM)
Subject: Red House Painters
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:52:46 -0700
From: Elvia Tarango (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: short and sweet about spoonfed hybrid
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 21:23:27 -0600
From: pocahontas oi! oi! (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: Hidden track on Scheer CD-EP/ Cat. number trivia
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 22:34:47 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)

Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:43:30 -0700
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: haha..


  oh..and kenny, not jymn, is in pd-m...i knew i should have looked
  at that blurb more carefully...


  shoulda been an english major,
  k-j...princess of belated fact-checking...


Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 23:58:22 -0500
From: Steven Venn (svenn@INFORAMP.NET)
Subject: Re: 4ad cd auction (singles and full length)


Slowdive - Morningrise EP...................................Current $16


I will bid for this one Dave, remember me I bought that no balls comp and
the lush CD
awhile back.

Let me know what's on this CD okay?

Steve



The Truth is out there.


Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:14:26 -0700
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@netcom.com)
Subject: ...latest rough version of hnia discog...


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                   * the unofficial hnia discography *

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     tape * 1985-1989 stuff / his name is alive / early works *
            mail-order tape available directly from the band.
   tracks - side a...
            'riotousness and postrophe'
             1} princessly
             2} either or
             3} thoughts
             4} darkest dreams
             5} i disappear
             6} never wanted to have said
             7} a time there nearby
             8} glancing passes
             9} again not still
            10} little waves
            'i had sex with god'
            11} if july
            12} as could we ever
            13} some and i
            14} daringest
            'his name is alive'
            15} the other body
            16} ascension
            17} reincarnation
            18} hey porter
            side b...
            'livonia - home mix'
             1} free jazz w/purchase
             2} fossil
             3} you and i have seizures
             4} e-nicolle
             5} caroline's supposed demon
             6} fossil
             7} some and i
             8} how ghosts affect relationships
             9} e-nicolle
            10} cecil's been demeanor
     band - all writing and playing credits included w/tape.
      art - melissa elliott

     tape * love can't buy happiness *
            mail-order tape available directly from the band.
   tracks - side a...
            'love can't buy happiness'
             1} ode on a dave asman
             2} fascinated by a willing body
             3} your suspicions need a heaven
             4} sitting still moving still staring outlooking
             5} are we still married?
             6} why people disappear
             7} 88 naked women
             8} your suspicions need a heaven
             9} "livonia"
            10} r u coming down this weekend?
            11} angel, angel down we go (included as first song on side b)
            side b...
            'instrumentals'
             2} scene I, act 2 {the drowning girl}
             3} bullfrog
             4} birds
             5} xmas
             6} very bad a bitter hand
             7} fingers
     band - all writing and playing credits included w/tape.
      art - melissa elliott

    hnia1 * 'if july' b/w 'how ghosts affect relationships' *
            promo-only 7" given away by 4ad as a gift to fans
            with the disclaimer that anyone who tried to sell
            the 7" for money were not friends of 4ad!
      art - no picture sleeve. 7" label has writing on side AA,
            and indistinguishable beverly carruthers photo on side A.

cad0008 * livonia * cd, cs, lp.
            debut record, was supposed to be one-off release w/4ad.
   tracks - 1} as could we ever    7} caroline's supposed demon
            2} e-nicolle           8} fossil
            3} if july             9} reincarnation
            4} some and i         10} you and i have seizures
            5} fossil             11} how ghosts affect relationships
            6} e-nicolle          12} darkest dreams
     band - warren defever...guitars, basses, samples
            karin oliver...vocals
            angie carozza...vocals (lead on 10,11)
            damian lang...percussion on 2,9
            jymn auge...a couple guitars on 8
            tracy...bassoon on 10
            all songs written by his name is alive.
      art - art direction & design...vaughan/v23
            photography...beverly carruthers
            design assistance...chris bigg
    misc. - promo lp is a white-label release w/insert.

  Tdk #52 * new music report * cd
    misc. - promotional cd put out by tdk/cmj.
            this cd features a short interview with warren and
            karin {who the host of the cd calls melissa}, and
            The Song Of Schizophrenia.

  cad1013 * home is in your head * cd, cs, lp.
   tracks -  1} are you coming down this weekend?
             2} her eyes were huge things
             3} the charmer
             4} hope called in sick        }   The Song
             5} my feathers need cleaning  }      of
             6} the well                   } Schizophrenia
             7} there's something between us (and he's changing my words)
             8} the phoenix, a pool of ice
             9} are we still married?
            10} put your finger in your eye
            11} home is in your head
            12} why people disappear
            13} here eyes are huge
            14} save the birds
            15} chances are we are mad
            16} mescalina
            17} sitting still moving still staring outlooking
            18} very bad a bitter hand
            19} beautiful and pointless
            20} tempe
            21} spirit and body
            22} love's a fish eye
            23} dreams are of the body
            24} the other body - {hidden demo track}
            all songs written by his name is alive except track 7,
            written by bone machine.
     band - warren defever...guitar, bass, samples, pencil guitar
            karin oliver...vocals, guitar
            melissa elliott...guitar, pencil guitar
            jymn auge...guitar
            damian lang...drums, rainmaker, crashers, bone
            denise james...vocals (22)
      art - art direction & design...vaughan/v23
            photography...dominic davies
    misc. - jymn wrote track 22.
            karin wrote track 6.
            ...yes...the demo tape ran out...

  bad2005 * the dirt eaters * cd5, lp.
   tracks -  1} the man on silver mountain
             2} are we still married?
             3} is this the way the tigers do?
             4} we hold the land in great esteem
             5} the dirt eaters
            all songs written by his name is alive,
            except 1 {blackmore/dio}
     band - warren defever...guitars, bass, samples, etc.
            karin oliver...vocals (1,2,4)
            melissa elliott...guitars
            denise james...vocals (4,5)
            karen neal...vocals (3)
      art - design...vaughan oliver & chris bigg
            screenprint, 'the first salon'...terry dowling

 vrcd0244 * his name is alive sings man on silver mountain *
          *               and 8 other songs                *
            promo-cd from rykodisc, to coincide with re-release
            of first two hnia records.
   tracks -  1} man on silver mountain
             2} how ghosts affect relationships
             3} why people disappear
             4} as could we ever
             5} sitting still moving still staring outlooking
             6} are we still married [dirt eaters mix]
             7} if july
             8} her eyes were huge things
             9} the dirt eaters
      art - photography...dominic davies {potato plant picture}

rcd10244 * livonia * rykodisc re-release.
   tracks - same as 4ad-uk version except track 13, livonia.
    misc. - little difference in art, except for quality.
            front words "his name is alive / livonia" are layered
            on top of each other on 4ad-uk version.."his name is alive"
            logo in gold, "livonia" in copper...visible only if cover is
            turned certain ways.
            4ad-uk cd has logo and chris bigg calligraphy "his name
            alive" scrolled on it. no track listing, as with the ryko
            version.

 rcd20245 * home is in your head * rykodisc re-release.
   tracks - same as 4ad-uk version except the last five tracks,
            which made up the dirt eaters ep.
    misc. - cover photo of pod is on the back of the 4ad-uk version.
            cover photo of 4ad-uk release is a hanging squid, cd is
            bright green.

    hnia2 * mouth by mouth promo-cd *
   tracks -  1} in every ford
             2} lip
             3} drink, dress, and ink
             4} can't go wrong without you
             5} the dirteaters
      art - artwork on white film inlay, same as 4ad-us promo cds.
            cd has same paint design as 'mouth by mouth' cds.
            cd and inlay come in plastic slip-cover.

procd6069 * in every ford * 4ad-us promo-cd.
   tracks -  1} in every ford
             2} lip
             3} drink, dress, and ink
             4} can't go wrong without you
             5} the dirteaters
      art - back cover same as other '93 4ad-us promo cds, chris bigg
            calligraphy w/ orange, white, purple colour scheme. cd is
            orange with purple writing.

     tape * ninety-three * promo-cassette from 4ad.
            3 songs by the red house painters appear on side a.
            his name is alive appear on side b.
   tracks -  1} in every ford
             2} drink, dress, and ink
             3} can't go wrong without you
             4} the dirteaters
    misc. - tapes received by mail came with 1 page description of
            of both band's latest albums. his name is alive section
            has brief synopsis of mouth by mouth from warren, "4ad's
            first ethnic heavy metal album" and 1993 tour schedule.

  cad3006 * mouth by mouth * cd, cs, lp.
   tracks -  1} baby fish mouth
             2} lip
             3} cornfield
             4} in every ford
             5} lord, make me a channel of your peace
             6} drink, dress, and ink
             7} where knock is open wide
             8} can't go wrong without you
             9} jackrabbits
            10} sort of
            11} sick
            12} blue moon
            13} ear
            14} lemon ocean
            15} the torso
            16} the dirteaters
            17} the homesick waltz
            all songs written by his name is alive, except 4, 9, and 16
            by melissa and 12 by alex chilton.
     band - warren defever...guitars, samples
            karin oliver...vocals (songs 3,5,7,10,12,15,17), cello
            trey many...drums (beginning of 1, all of 16)
            denise james...vocals (11,13,14,16)
            karen neal...vocals (1,2,4)
            chelle marie...vocals (6,8)
            melissa elliott...guitars
            damian lang...drums
            elden m...noise, vocals (17)
      art - art direction...vaughan/v23
            design...chris bigg
            photography...colin gray
    misc. - discrepencies between uk-cd, us-cd, and lp. uk-cd
            includes samples and song (17) not on us-cd. lp
            contains different artwork than what is on the cds,
            samples, and lyrics to track 17, however track 17
            is not on the lp. cd versions do not have lyrics for 17.
            there may be a slightly different mix for the lp, but i
            haven't felt up to comparing the vinyl and the cd versions...
            warren is the cover star.
            promo copies came with xeroxed note from warren about
            the songs, etc.

   s.s.10 * denise *
            promo 7" given away with issue of Dirt magazine, on
            blue vinyl. the song was originally to be released on
            mouth by mouth as 'darling'. denise james sings.

   per005 * king of sweet *
   tracks -  1} take a look around you
             2} a bird in every tree
             3} this weekend
             4} drive the dreamy demon down
             5} lake (theme for sweet hearts)
             6} blissfield (sweet corn)
             7} bears (king of sweet)
             8} ode on a dave asman
             9} a dave in the life
            10} honey babe, my blue-eyed babe
            11} the shepherds flute is always playing
            12} are you coming down this weekend?
            13} soul resides in the horse barn
            14} driftin blues
            15} meet me by moonlight, alone
     band - warren defever...bass, guitars, samples
            karin oliver...vocals (1,2,3,4,9,12,15)
            jymn auge...guitars
            melissa elliott...guitars
            denise james...vocals (10?)
            karen neal...vocals (13,14?)
            damian lang...drums
    misc. - limited edition of 2000. all tracks compiled from home
            'demo' tapes, '90-'92.
            warren is the cover blur.

       ?? * his name is alive - live in mexico *
            cassette tape put out by Time Stereo. from a concert
            performed at an avante-garde arts festival in mexico, late
            1993.
   tracks - tiger and me
            el santa machina
            count your spots
            i know a place
            zona centro CP 3700
            moon don            honey moon
            maya paloque
            mono
            hurican ramirez
            brown poems
            juan melia

  comps.:

          * liliput *
            2-cd set w/accompanying book, distributed to record stores
            and college stations, etc. to commemorate 4ad's distribution
            deal with Warner Bros.
 track 10 - 'are we still married?'.

          * and dog bones too... *
            4ad's first retail sampler.
  track 8 - 'the dirteaters'.

          * mai pen rai *
            4ad retail sampler. package design by bruce licher of
            IPR & IPP. available in 8 different colour variations.
  track 7 - 'in every ford'.

   acs001 * the adventure club sessions *
 track 10 - baby fish mouth
    misc. - compilation cd of radio performances/specially
            recorded broadcasts from various artists. The hnia
            track is an acoustic studio recording.

(shuffle) * 4ad presents the 13 year itch *
            limited edition cd of 2000, sold at the 13 year itch
            festival in july 1993 to coincide with 4ad's 13th
            anniversary. 1 song from 13 4ad bands is included.
 track 12 - 'the time falling bodies take to light'.
    misc. - original version of song was to appear on mouth by
            mouth as 'time light books'. beginning instrumental
            was not on the original version.

cat.45789 * all virgos are mad *
            limited edition cd of 10,000 sold to coincide with
            4ad's all virgos are mad festival in los angeles,
            california (sept. 27th - oct. 2nd 1994).
  track 6 - 'library girl'.
    misc. - band is listed as his name is alive with dara.

  videos:

          * are we still married? *
            directed by the bros. quay.
            available on mouth by mouth promo video (no catalogue
            number. limited to 1000.), 4ad presents the 13 Year Itch
            video compilation (shuffle), and various sampler video tapes.

          * lip *
            directed by warren defever and kenny greenbaum.
            available on mouth by mouth promo video, 4ad presents
            the 13 Year Itch video compilation.

          * can't go wrong without you *
            directed by the bros. quay.
            available on mouth by mouth promo video, 4ad presents
            the 13 Year Itch video compilation, 4ad
            presents All Virgos Are Mad video compilation.

 posters:

          * XAD 23 *
            set of 15 posters by 4ad artists. the hnia poster is
            for 'livonia'. photography by beverly carruthers.

          * FAD 23 *
            set of 13 posters, released during the 13 year itch
            festival. the hnia poster is for 'home is in your head'.
            photography by dominic davies.

then & now:

his name is alive are more or less a "sound lab",
            formed around the time that warren defever was 16.
            the band name {supposedly} stems from some notes
            warren had written in a history class pertaining to
            abraham lincoln. he thought it sounded good, so he
            decided to name his next band 'his name is alive'.
            from the bio released with 'livonia', warren and
            angie met at high school and worked together on music
            for some time. angie then left for college and
            warren met up with karin oliver at eastern michigan
            university. from then on, the group has been a
            loose line-up, warren being the one who constructs the
            the music and writes the bulk of the lyrics, karin
            being the lead vocalist for all releases, and their
            friends playing various instruments {and non-instruments}
            as instructed by warren. angie soon dropped out of the
            picture after 'livonia' was released...
            all hnia material is recorded in the basement of
            warren's parent's {now his} house in livonia, michigan...
            initially on 4-track recorders, on a reel to reel 8-track
            as of '91. at the present time, hnia have done 1 full-blown
            tour of the US and often play shows in and around michigan...
            if you're looking for straight answers about the
            group, their music, and anything else, good luck.
            warren likes to tilt the truth a bit, so nothing is
            ever 100% believable. you can get in touch with the band
            via the address below, but i warn you...hnia are
            not very good about getting back to their mail and
            it may be a year or more before you get any response.
            in fact, i wouldn't even count on a response. hnia
            used to sell t-shirts and mail order tapes themselves,
            but the shirts are all gone and so are the tapes...

            to get in touch with hnia, write:

            star artist management
            p.o. box 114
            fraser, mi 48026
            usa

 spinoffs?:

          * elvis hitler *
            this is a "hellbilly" group consisting of jim leedy,
            damian lang, john and warren defever.
            they have released 3 albums on Restless {'hellbilly',
            'disgraceland', 'supersadomasochisticexpialidocious'}
            and at last word, had a 4th wrapped up {though i
            think they were dropped from Restless and are shopping
            for a new label}. in any event, warren defever
            will not be a part of any future elvis hitler records
            or tours, and he stresses that he was in no way
            responsible for their lyrics, album covers, etc. he
            "just played bass". unless one likes extremely goofy,
            punkrockabilly, elvis hitler are best left untouched
            by his name is alive fans...

          * bone machine *
            punk rock meets artsy garage band.
            there really is no way of giving bone machine a
            proper description. they have one record out on
            AUD {'decapasaurus'}, and have been recording
            tracks for a new album for at least year...though
            when they'll be able to release something new is
            up in the air. the group consists of warren,
            jymn, and scott...

          * princess dragon-mom *
            noise. noise. noise. noise. noise.
            this is yet another threesome consisting of
            warren, davin, and jymn. their music is
            very loud and very bizarre and a lot of fun
            for the whole family.
            princess dragon-mom, as well as
            all defever related bands, share the same p.o. box
            and pd-m seemingly want inquiries from the curious...
            {sidenote: non-japanoise loving hnia fans should stay
            away from this as it is nothing but *pure noise*...i have put
            together a separate pd-m & Time Stereo discog. for those
            who are interested.}

          * the dirteaters *
            similar to his name is alive, the dirteaters
            are made up of melissa, warren, damian, karen
            neal {early incarnation}, and denise james.
            this is melissa's group and she is the primary
            songwriter. no releases as of yet, but they may
            have an album out in the near future and will
            continue to play live in and around MI...

          * his name is arrive *
            this is hnia's take on japanese noise music.
            The group seemingly doesn't exist anymore, but
            it should be said that warren and chelle-marie were
            at the head of this project. they were supposed to release
            something at one time...they had a complete set of
            songs. their music has been described as
            incredibly beautiful and melodic, with fits of
            uncontrollable noise here and there...

          * grenadine *
            warren produced the group's 2nd album, titled
            'nopalitos', and the single from that album.
            rob christiansen, mark robinson, and jenny toomey
            make up the band.

          * inside-out *
            this is the band that karen neal is from.
            a 3 grrrl line-up, along the lines of other
            punk-type girl groups. they have several albums
            and singles out, only attainable via mail order or
            lucky searching...

          * liquorice *
            band make-up is jenny toomey, dan littleton (ida),
            and trey many.
            warren produced the band's debut record, 'listening cap', a
            one-off release with 4ad. they also have a single out on
            simple machines {'stalls'} and a song on the cd and first
            limited 10" 'red, hot, and bothered' from the Red Hot
            organization {the same people that put out 'No Alternative',
            amongst others}...

          * warren defever's mystic moog orchestra *
            japanese noise music with moogs, no guitar.
            Their first live performance was made up of 9 people
            playing nothing but moogs and included warren, jymn, and
            laetitia sadier of stereolab {who the moog orchestra had
            opened for}. they have a one release {self-titled, i'm pretty
            sure. i need to check up on the specifics, though} available...

          * esp summer *
            warren and ian masters {ex-pale saints, spoonfed hybrid}.
            a cassette of this recording is available on davin & kenny
            own cassette label, Time Stereo, and a limited 10" of remixes from
            the cassette is out on farrago records. a 7" is planned for
            release in the very near future, on perdition plastic...

          * esp beetles *
            a group that has an "all-star" line-up.
            the band consists of warren, davin, kenny, matt
            smith, and damian lang. sometimes scott. they have
            2 tapes out on Time Stereo and have played live in
            MI often {along with any other warren band that
            ever existed.} a split 7" is planned with local livonia
            noiseband and pals of mine, jennifer wolski, which will
            also earmark the end of the beetles...

          * dead his name is alive *
            once again, a noise group in it's purest form.
            one song on noise compilation, 'the arbitrary nature
            of meaning'. also, there is a pd-m song on this cd.
            as told to me by jeff, the co-owner of Isomorphic
            Records: "Warren wanted to use a different name since the
            track 'Do You Want to Have Trouble' is pure noise in the vein
            of Hanatarash, Hijohkaidan, or early Controlled Bleeding and he
            didn't want to alienate any of his mainstream fans."

          * inside-out *
            this is the band that karen neal is from.
            a 3 grrrl line-up, along the lines of other punk-type girl
            groups. they have several albums and singles out, only
            attainable via mail order...

          * godzuki *
            warren produced this band's first "record", which is
            being released as a set of 7"s on March records, as
            well as a song that appears on a split 7" with other MI
            band asha vida. an easy description of their sound is
            "indie-noise-pop".
            warren will be producing other MI groups over time...
            possibly working with monaural next...

   etc. :

            if you're seriously interested in hearing princess
            dragon-mom, please contact the following...

            Subterranean
            PO Box 2530
            Berkeley, CA 94702
            USA

                                   or

            G.R.O.S.S. c/o Akifumi Nakajima
            412 Higashianekoujicho Sanjo-agaru
            Furukawacho Higashiyama-ku Kyoto 605 Japan
                                   ***
            for a 4AD catalogue, send two US dollars to :

            4AD
            P. O. Box 461599
            Los Angeles, CA 90046
            Attn: Catalogue Order

            4AD "hotline" - (310) 535-1714
                                   ***
            to get in contact with Isomorphic Records, write to :

            Isomorphic Records
            17709 108th Ave SE
            Renton, Wa.  98055
                                   ***
         for information on Time Stereo, or how to contact other
record labels mentioned above, please e-mail me at the address below...

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              please send comments, questions, corrections,
            bootleg info, and ultrafun stuff to kelli@netcom.com

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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 22:49:15 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: keep the bids to yourself!


Come on people! How many times must it be said?
Don't post bids to the whole list. Please figure out the
difference between replying to the "Sender" and "From"
lines in the header. It can't be that hard!

That said, I'll get back to news:

Swirlies @ Las Palmas Theatre this Friday the 27th.
I think *k-j* is going. What more reason do you need?

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 00:03:51 -0700
From: snowangel k-j (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: swirling swirlies swirled


> Swirlies @ Las Palmas Theatre this Friday the 27th.
> I think *k-j* is going. What more reason do you need?

  that i am, and so is jOHN. i'll probably be in jeans and a
  li'l t-shirt w/my hair either up in a messy Pebbles-ish do
  or down in a messy Friends-type do...come say hi to me and donate
  spare change to the Buy k-j Expensive Alcoholic Beverages fund... :)
  we might also go see Spain w/Sixteen Deluxe tomorrow {thursday}
  night @ jabberjaw. it's all a question of money and if i really
  want to drive to shows two nights in a row....

  hiccups,
  k-j

  ...btw, is there anything kool to do in southern california on
  halloween night, other than scaring li'l children who come to your
  front door or shaking your finger at the ones dressed as OJ?...

Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 12:47:34 CST
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4ad cd auction (singles and full length)


In Message Wed, 25 Oct 1995 08:11:30 -0700,
  David Stack  writes:


>Pale Saints - Flesh Baloon (Out of print, BAD 1009 CD)......Current $14

THIS IS NOT OUT OF PRINT.  sorry for the all caps, but a friend of mine
ordered this from 4ad over the summer and only paid about $10 including
postage.  and this in america for crying out loud.  false advertising, it
blows.  i believe i have pointed this out before.  That'll teach ya to send
auction updates to the list.

eric


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 06:17:55 -0700
From: David Stack (dstack@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: 4ad cd auction (singles and full length)

              Oct 25, 95 11:58:22 pm

>
> Slowdive - Morningrise EP...................................Current $16
>
>
> I will bid for this one Dave, remember me I bought that no balls comp and
> the lush CD
> awhile back.
>
> Let me know what's on this CD okay?
>
> Steve
Ok, the curent bid was $16, so I will put you down for $17.

I'll send a track listing later today when I get home.
I think that there are 3 tracks on it.

Dave


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:12:24 -0100
From: somewhere@ANYWHERE.UNI
Subject: (no subject)


                                        Is it true that there will be a Lisa Ger
ard live cd after the tour
finishes?

Somebody


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 11:19:37 -0400
From: EZ (st953km8@DUNX1.OCS.DREXEL.EDU)
Subject: Re: space, spaceman3


i'm listening to the Darkside right now. another Spacemen3 spinoff that
should have got more attention then they did.
-eric

"art is not a mirror held up to reality, but a hammer with which to shape it"
-Brecht


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 11:51:46 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: LG at Virgin tonight


Lisa Gerrard is doing a signing at the Hollywood
Virgin Megastore tonight.

So how was the show last night?

brant

'you can't get the wood you know'


Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 02:42:22 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: belly, catherine wheel (long)


well, i hopped on my bike last night for the twenty minute ride to the
belly show (god, am i out of shape!)

got there after jewel had played (darn!), but shortly before catherine
wheel started.  i have to say, they really didn't do much for me.  with the
exception of one or two songs, the music they played was the sort of thing
i'd hear if i walked into a bad frat party (soundgarden rules heh heh!)

after gritting my teeth through the cw performance (and an encore, despite
the fact that almost no one cheered for it), i anxiously awaited belly.
oh, one more thing.  for the first song of their encore, cw played a song
called "pain" (i guess it could be "pane," but i kind of doubt it).  it was
actually pretty decent, a sort of slow, accoustical number, until the rest
of the band started playing.  after that, it quickly went downhill.

then belly came on, playing mostly stuff from king, of which i'm not all
that fond.  they played angel and low red moon, though, two of the three
songs i wanted to hear (the other was star).  for the last song of the
encore, they played a new song, which tanya announced was "for the ladies."
it started out really slow with tanya and gail singing a capella (ok,
there may have been a keyboard or guitar playing softly, i don't remember).
gail can't sing at all.  the song was kind of lame, and several people
shouted during this segment, causing tanya to kind of stop and re-start a
couple of times.  eventually, the song picked up, and the show ended with a
drum solo.

can't really post a set list because i don't know many of the songs on king
very well, but they played judas, red, feed the tree, gepetto, um. . . some
more.  i still think that that REDREDRED bit in the chorus of red ruins a
great song.

oh well,

eric


"i hear the language of flowers, and now i can't hear anything else."
        -pale saints "language of flowers"


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 15:05:39 -0700
From: Laura M Watling (watlingl@WATMAIL.UCR.EDU)
Subject: Re: otherness or what?


is the cocteau's 'otherness' ep being released in the states or what?

*** the record-store-dude told me it would be out tomorrow (Fri), but
you know those record-store-dudes...I'll keep my fingers crossed!! :)
-Laura


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 23:26:25 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Hidden track on Scheer CD-EP/ Cat. number trivia


Is there anyone who has any idea what's the title (and the point!) of the
hidden, 5th track on the Scheer 'Schism' CD-EP? (it isn't on the 12")


4AD catalogue number trivia:

On the inner bag of the Air Miami 'Me.Me.Me' LP you can find a large number
5012, while the actual cat.number of the album 5011.
The original cat.number in the running grooves of the Scheer 12" is  5013,
while the actual cat. number is 5012 (the '3' has been striked out and
replaced by a '2').
So it seems that at a certain point a release was cancelled or re-scheduled.
Any suggestions?

Yours,
Frank
++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++


Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 00:20:12 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Air Miami 'Fuck You Tiger' 12"


I've searched in vain for a copy, but I'm afraid 4AD only issued a 7" and a
CD-EP.
Am I right?

Frank
++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++

Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:08:18 -0700
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: *Otherness release date*

          Twins 

        According to the "new releases" list at
        _Otherness_ is due out November 21.

= "Wake up, see    \ If there's no God, why      + "Where unadmired beings =
= the sun...what's / are there atheists?         + dread the due changes   =
= done is done..." \  -variation on St. Anselm's + ahead..."               =
=  -Ride: "Today"  /   Ontological Proof         +  -Red House Painters    =

Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 19:59:44 -0400
From: Jay Senese (JaySenese@AOL.COM)
Subject: Tindersticks "Live" CD '95


... I just received my weekly CD shipment from the UK and they double-shipped
(and double-charged!) me for the new limited-edition Tindersticks Live in
Bloomsbury CD.  (They also sent the new CT "Otherness", which is even more
handsome than the last one!).   If someone is interested in buying my extra
Tindersticks CD, you can have it for what I paid: $15.00 + $2.00 shipping (US
only).  Thanks, JaySenese@aol.com


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:52:46 -0700
From: Elvia Tarango (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Red House Painters


Well folks, I read in the  San Francisco Bay Guardian, Oct. 25 issue from
the column "Scene'n'Herd the following:

        After three years, four albums, and one EP, the Red House Painters
and 4AD have parted company. Singer Mark Kozelek says the break was
initiated by a side project he recorded with Bruce Kaphan of the American
Music Club, Michael Urbano and Davey Faragher of the John Hiatt Ban, and
Stephanie Finch of Chuck Prophet's Creatures of Habit. "When I turned it in
to 4AD, they let me know that there were parts they wanted to edit out"
Kozelek said. "This was a departure from my other recoreds - there were
rock songs and extended guitar solos that they didn't like." Kozelek is
currently shopping the album - which he plans to release under the Red
House Painters' moniker - and should start gigging again in early December.

Well folks, I for one am very glad that Mark is growing as a musician. I am
very sad though, that American Music Club is no more.  Let us have a minute
of silence. I know this information is probably not that new as I new about
this stuff when I went to the Berkeley Square and American Music Hall
concerts for RHP. But, thought inquiring minds might want to know...since
its in print now.

Thanx-a-latte
Fred Collins

Elvia

(elvia@uclink3.berkeley.edu)

Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 21:23:27 -0600
From: pocahontas oi! oi! (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: short and sweet about spoonfed hybrid


if anyone is still in need of the cd, waterloo in austin has five copies.
$23.99 each + tax. i will be willing to pick them up for people if they
want as long as the money is sent first, the only reason for this being
that i can't afford to buy these discs myself, i don't get paid for three
weeks and will have no money after this weekend. i am a responsible trader
if not the swiftest, but i try. if you want a cd, email me.

this pubic 4ad service announcement (no, dahling, no sp) has been brought
to you by:
.joanna.

---
joroses@mail.utexas.edu
andover '94
-
Mommy, mommy, can I have a cookie?
 -- Sure, honey, take as many as you want from the jar.
 -- But, Mommy, I don't have any arms.
 -- No arms, no cookies.


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 22:34:47 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Hidden track on Scheer CD-EP/ Cat. number trivia


>So it seems that at a certain point a release was cancelled or re-scheduled.
>Any suggestions?

it was hope hull!!!  actually, it may have been that lush ep.

eric


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