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Subject: Nadja: The Soundtrack
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 01:56:48 +0200
From: section25 (SECTION25@IDS.NET)
Subject: Re: COCTEAU ART WORK
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 08:11:44 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Lisa Gerrard-Minneapolis Show
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 02:02:14 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: rare 4ad stuff for sale
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:02:54 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lush Pedals? Or- behead the bowlegged chicken
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 00:45:53 -0600
From: Chadwick Dorton (cdorton@SLCPL.SLCPL.LIB.UT.US)
Subject: diverse items for sale..
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:53:48 -0400
From: Ted Watkins (fhw2n@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Saint Etienne
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:08:37 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lush Pedals? Or- behead the bowlegged chicken
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 15:05:03 -0400
From: "(Zach Martinchek)" (X95MARTINCHE@WMICH.EDU)
Subject: <>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 01:35:17 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: <> (long)
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:32:38 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: Re: Hope Hull
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:50:41 -0400
From: Cath Carroll (FAC179@AOL.COM)
Subject: ALVIN LIVES IN ATHENS
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:50:38 -0400
From: Cath Carroll (FAC179@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Saint Etienne
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 10:12:57 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS2.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Saint Etienne
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 15:58:51 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: the amps/new kristin hersh e.p.
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:43:48 -0700
From: "PLOCKE.US.ORACLE.COM" (PLOCKE@US.ORACLE.COM)
Subject: 4ad-Influenced musicians
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 10:37:54 -0800
From: kenneth (nneth@CONNECTUS.COM)
Subject: Re: RHP
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 09:26:44 -0700
From: Elvia Tarango (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: Saint Etienne
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 09:16:13 -0700
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Laugh lines
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:07:21 +1100
From: Matthew Kirkcaldie (matthewk@POSTOFFICE.UTAS.EDU.AU)
Subject: Air Miami at San Jose State today
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 13:56:53 -0400
From: GrimaceSCU@AOL.COM
Subject: the auction is over
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 17:55:54 -0700
From: lushmuse (eahu597@EA.OAC.UCI.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD catalog web-site
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:18:06 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Suscribe 4AD-L Jennifer Alexander
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 22:12:22 -0300
From: Jennifer Alexander (alexande@NBNET.NB.CA)
Subject: I've Got No Balls and I'm Facing The Wrong Way
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 21:10:24 -0400
From: IVSONGS@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: the amps/new kristin hersh e.p.
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 22:29:52 -0400
From: Keith Kenez (Keithke@AOL.COM)

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 01:56:48 +0200
From: section25 (SECTION25@IDS.NET)
Subject: Nadja: The Soundtrack


the Nadja Soundtrack will be available
on Gyroscope records very soon!

s 2 5

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 08:11:44 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: COCTEAU ART WORK


It's Elizabeth.  Same on Garlands.  The guy on the cover of
Garlands is Will Heggie.


Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 02:02:14 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Lisa Gerrard-Minneapolis Show


Amazing.

Not much more to say, really.  Lisa was angelic...white dress, lovely lighting,
*incredible* voice.

        I met her father before the concert...he was selling posters &
programs (good price:  $10 = 2 posters + a program).  He told me to stick
around after the show...I did.  They ended up leaving in a taxi...as they
passed, I waved the flower I had brought for her...she stopped the taxi...she
signed everything and told me that she had met me before...she recognized me,
somehow.  I had to tell her that it must have been someone else.  More fans
approached, she said goodnight, and the taxi pulled away.  A brief encounter,
but I'm still flying...

The concert was a good mix of old material, _Mirror Pool_ tracks, and new
compositions.  Most of the songs were quite different from their album
counterparts...the musicians really seemed to be enjoying their performance.
The poetry recital by Mark Ellis was stunning...does anyone have any more
information about his work?  I've heard mixed reviews of the Elijah's Mantle
works.  The drum (bodrean, right?) solo by Ronan O Snodaigh amazed the audience
as well.  So much sound from an inanimate object...dcd.

        i better go to bed and let the euphroria wear off...has anyone compiled
a set list for her shows?  I was paralyzed for most of the show.  There are
still 5 shows left on the tour...see one if you can.

                                        Aaron


Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:02:54 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: rare 4ad stuff for sale


While I was at the Pop Festival in Arizona this weekend,
Stinkweeds bought someone's entire 4AD collection. While it
was by no means complete, there is a lot of old vinyl:

All the Birthday Party albums and probably all the singles,
the "Dark Entries" single (Beggar's Banquet label),
Cocteau singles,
the Happy Family album,
an In Camera release,
TWP's Sweatbox EP (I bought the other two)
and so on. I don't remember most of it.

The real prize, however, is a copy of Nature Mortes/Still Lives,
the Japanese release with the banner-wrap thing and lyric sheet.
Kimber either bought it for $100 or is offering it for $100, if it's
still even there. I was seriously tempted, but left it for a real
collector to have.

I can't guarantee that ANY of this is still left at the store,
but it's worth a call. Ask for Kimber at 602-897-7109. She's supposedly
now online, but I don't have her address yet.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 00:45:53 -0600
From: Chadwick Dorton (cdorton@SLCPL.SLCPL.LIB.UT.US)
Subject: Re: Lush Pedals? Or- behead the bowlegged chicken


Miki uses BOSS pedals on a BOSS power supply board.  I could not for the
life of me tell what Emma was using.  It seemed Miki had the standard
battery of BOSS pedals.  Stereo Chorus, somoe kind of Distortion pedal,
more than one Delay pedal, a flanger, etc....

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:53:48 -0400
From: Ted Watkins (fhw2n@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: diverse items for sale..


all prices INCLUDE SHIPPING
Here's a few CD's I'd like to sell (and LP's)
prices are negotiable
*= claimed but not paid for- still taking orders..

All About Eve s/t LP $6
Schnitt Acht- Rage/Random Funk EP (blood red vinyl) 12" $5
Fourwaycross- Shimmer 4 tracker $5
Venus Beads- Transfixed EP import $7

*Church of Acid- Modulator CD single $4 (techno)
*Utah Saints- What Can You Do For Me CD single $4
Smashing Orange- Glass Bead Game CD $7
Sonic Youth: Dirty CD $8
Low Pop Suicide: Disengagement EP CDS $4
Grace Darling: s/t CD (pre Cest la mort release on sardonic
                sounds) $7
*Blue Blue Blue: Reclusallucination CD (Cest la mort) $7
Batman Returns Soundtrack $8 CD
*NitzerEbb- Belief CD $9
*Ofra Haza- Desert Wind $9
*Shelleyan Orphan- Humroot $9
*Body Count (Ice-T)- There Goes the Neighborhood CDS (promo on WB)
                        $4
Screaming Trees- Invisible Lantern $9 CD
Swirlies-What to Do About Them mini CD $7
Flying Saucer Attack - S/T CD on VH1 label $10
*DeeeLite- Infinity Within CD $9
Sven Vath- L'Esperanza CDS promo on WB $4
Sven Vath- An Accident in Paradise/Ritual of Life CDS $4
Shamen - LSI CDS $4
Jam and Spoon - Right in the Night CDS-import (with Follow Me)
                        $8
*Future Sound of London- ISDN CD- orig. import with artwork- black
        velcro sleeve- $13
*Inanna- not.hing- on Dark Vinyl $14 import- brand new copy.
*Thomas Koner- teimo (on Barooni)- import $13 brand new copy.
Ambush- s/t album on Harthouse (TRIBAL!! ala O.Lieb)- import $12
*808 State - Ex:el CD $9
Alter Ego- s/t CD on Harthouse label- strange ambient/trancey bit..
        $10

contact me before sending money to ensure that the item is not
already sold.
contact fhw2n@faraday.clas.virginia.edu

if the price is too high- make an offer

--
__________________________________________________________________________
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability
of the human mind to correlate all its contents." HPL
__________________________________________________________________________

Ted Watkins
304 14th ST NW Apt 6
Charlottesville VA 22903
fhw2n@faraday.clas.virginia.edu

"You don't have to call it music, if the term disturbs you." JC

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:08:37 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Saint Etienne


You wrote:
>
>i just heard the St.Etienne cover of "I'm Too Sexy" and it's
>beautiful!!!!  It's turned into the mostest melancholiest song...
>


what is that from, i have never heard it and i am very intersted.


                            -robert.

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 15:05:03 -0400
From: "(Zach Martinchek)" (X95MARTINCHE@WMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Lush Pedals? Or- behead the bowlegged chicken

              <199510141852.LAA10641@ix7.ix.netcom.com>

I missed the address of the one who was asking about lush guitar sounds...if
anyone would like sound recipies or has questions, mail me personally...i'd
be glad to help.

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 01:35:17 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: <>


        Here's a long list of 4AD and 4AD-related CDs and Records that I'm
offering for sale and/or trade.  This is an AUCTION, so I'm looking for the
best offer for each item.  I will consider bids in cash, trade, or a
combination of the two.  My "want" list for trades is appended to the end.
If you make a cash offer, include estimated shipping costs in the total.
All of the items are in excellent condition, unless otherwise noted.

*** The auction ends at 11:00 EST on Wednesday, October 25, 1995 ***

I will update bidders on the status of their intended items via private e-mail.
I will repost this list to the 4AD-list once, half way through the action.

*** Send all bids via private e-mail to MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU ***

=================
CDs for Sale/Trade
=================

        18TH DYE -- Done (Matador/OLE117)  13 tracks.  39 minutes.  1st album.
        APHEX TWIN -- Donkey Rhubarb (Sire/66104)  Promo copy.  24 minutes.
4 tracks, one orchestrated by Philip Glass.  In FLP packaging.
        BAILTER SPACE -- Wammo (Matador/OLE142)  38 minutes.  10 tracks.
Comes in Digi-pak.  First album for Matador.
        FRANK BLACK -- Conversation and Music With...  (Elektra/PRCD-
8829)  Promo-only release.  45 minutes.  Interviewed by Kurt St. Thomas, June
22, 1993.  White carboard sleeve with image of FB on round sticker.
        FRANK BLACK -- Live 6/24/93 10pm est  (Elektra/4AD/PRCD?)  Promo-
only.  45 minutes.  Features They Might Be Giants on 14 FB and TMBG songs.
        THE BOO RADLEYS -- Lazy Day (Columbia/CSK4659)  Promo-only
single.  4 tracks: Vegas, Feels Like Tomorrow, and Whiplashed are exclusive.
        CATHERINE WHEEL -- Judy Staring At the Sea (Fontana/CDP-1496) Radio
promo single: album version, and Tanya Donelly-vocals version. Nice Digi-pak.
        CATHERINE WHEEL -- Crank (Fontana/CWCDB5)  Ltd. Edition single.
3 tracks: Crank, Pleasure and Tongue Twisted.  Slight indention on cover.
        CATHERINE WHEEL -- Show Me Mary (Fontana/CDP-1058)  Promo single.
3 tracks: SMM, High Heels and Mouth Full of Air. Cardboard sleeve, small scuff.
        CATHERINE WHEEL -- Black Metallic (Fontana/CDP-694)  Promo
single.  20 minutes.  Cardboard sleeve.  4 tracks: album version, UK edit,
KROQ edit, and Let Me Down Again.
        CATHERINE WHEEL -- The Nude (Fontana/CDP-1191)  Promo single.
Digi-pak foldout with three photos.  1 track: Scott Litt remix.
        NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS -- Live Seeds (Mute/9-61554)
Promo sampler for the Live Seeds CD/Photo book set.  60 minutes.  13 tracks.
        CHAPTERHOUSE -- Falling Down (BMG/RDJ-62019)  Promo single.
19 minutes.  4 tracks: two from album, plus Feel the Same, and Satin Safe.
        CHAPTERHOUSE -- We Are the Beautiful (Arista/ASCD-2626)
Promo e.p.  36 minutes.  4 tracks: two remixes, plus Frost, and Picnic.
        CONTROLLED BLEEDING -- Songs from the Ashes (CLM-CD022)  Promo
copy.  70 minutes.  16 tracks.
        CURVE -- Missing Link ep (Charisma/DPRO-14116)  Promo-only. 4 tracks:
album version and Trent Resnor remix, plus remixes of Rising, and Half the Time.
        CURVE -- Blacker Three Tracker Two (Anxious/ANXCDS-42) Promo-only
release.  Same as Missing Link ep, but without the album version.
        DEAD CAN DANCE -- American Dreaming (PRO-CD-7213)  Promo single.
1 track: album version. CD is color of TTW, not the usual promo-orange.
        DEAD CAN DANCE -- Toward the Within (VADD4015)  Limited edition
cardboard box with the CD and videotape.  Mint condition (never been used).
        EDEN -- Gateway to the Mysteries (Third Mind/TMD-9219)  Promo
copy.  71 minutes.  16 tracks.
        BRIAN ENO -- The Shutov Assembly (Opal/WB-9-45010)  10 tracks
57 minutes.  Cut-out copy.
        BRIAN ENO -- Ali Click (Opal/WB-9-40650)  Compact Disc Maxi-
Single.  41 minutes.  8 tracks: 7 remixes, plus I Fall Up.
        BRIAN ENO -- Fractal Zoom (Opal/WB-9-40539)  Compact Disc
Maxi-Single.  70 minutes.  12 tracks: 11 remixes, plus The Roil, The Choke.
        BRIAN ENO -- Words and Music from Wrong Way Up (Opal/WB/PRO
CD-4691)  Promo-only release.  26 minutes.  6 tracks from the album, with
conversation inbetween.  No insert.
        BRIAN ENO -- Nerve Net (Opal/WB-9-45033)  Promo copy.  64 minutes.
12 tracks.  No insert.
        LISA GERMANO -- Stars (PRO-CD-7184)  Promo single. 1 track: album
version.  CD is black w/ stars, instead of the usual promo-orange color.
        THE HAIR & SKIN TRADING CO. -- Psychedelische Musique (Lava Surf
Kunst) (FRR-011CD)  52 minutes.  14 tracks.  Digi-pak.  Made in England.
        HALF STRING -- Tripped Up Breathing  (IPR-048CD)  5 track e.p. in
beautiful Independent Project Records packaging.
        KRISTIN HERSH -- Your Ghost (PRO-CD-6714) Promo single. Album version.
        HIS NAME IS ALIVE -- In Every Ford (4AD/PRO-CD-6069)  Promo
single.  5 tracks from Mouth By Mouth.
        HUMAN DRAMA -- s/t (Projekt/PRO052)  28 minutes.  8 tracks,
including a rerecording of the '89 single The Waiting Hour.  Their 5th release.
        KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION -- 4 Men (A&M/31458-8038)  Promo-
only sinlge.  3 tracks: 4 Men, Goodbye Voyager and Skin.  Digi-pak.
        LOOMINGS -- Dropping Bitter Tears e.p. (Mood Drawer/MDR013)
4 tracks: Terminus, Dull, April Lucy, and Fused.  Still shrink wraped.
        LUSH -- For Love (PRO-CD-5299)  Promo single. 1 track: album version.
        LUSH -- Superblast (PRO-CD-5471)  Promo ep.  4 tracks: remix, Starlust,
Fallin' In Love (Dennis Wilson cover), and the album version.
        LUSH -- De-Luxe (PRO-CD-4662)  Promo single. 3 tracks: single edit,
alternate single edit, and album version.
        LUSH -- LoveLife (PRO-CD-7092)  Promo single.  16 minutes.  3 tracks:
album version, suga bullit remix edit, and sugga bullit remix.
        LUSH -- Hypocrite (PRO-CD-6983) Promo single. 1 track: single version.
        LUSH -- Black Spring ep (4AD/BAD1016cd)  4 tracks: 2 from Spooky,
plus God's Gift and Fallin' In Love (by Dennis Wilson).  Produced by Robin
Guthrie. Made in England.
        MAGIC HOUR -- Will They Turn You On Or Will They Turn On You
(Twisted Village/TW-1035)  40 minutes.  6 tracks.
        MOONSHAKE -- Eva Luna sampler (Matador/PRCD-5157) 4 tracks from album.
        PETER MURPHY -- The Sweetest Drop (Beggars Banquet/HDJ-62239) Promo
only.  5 tracks: radio edit and album version, Low Room, plus live versions
of All Night Long and The Line Between the Devil's Teeth.  Cardboard sleeve.
        NEGATIVLAND -- Fair Use: the Story of the Letter U and the Numeral 2
(Seeland-013CD)  Promo-only release.  72 minutes.  10 tracks: nine songs, one
26-minute spoken word piece.  Radio sampler from CD/book release.
        STINA NORDENSTAM -- Little Star (EastWest/PRCD-5851)  Promo single.
14 minutes. 3 tracks: album version, be zet wireless edit, and celestial mix.
        PALE SAINTS -- Angel (Will You Be My) (PRO-CD-7140) Promo single.
1 track: album version. Artwork on CD different then usual promo-orange.
        POLARA -- s/t (Clean/CR-89276)  Promo copy.  12 tracks.  Includes
John Strohm (from Blake Babies, Velo-Deluxe). Toured with Spiritualized.
        RED HOUSE PAINTERS -- I Am A Rock (PRO-CD-6498)  Promo single.
1 track: edit version.
        RUN ON -- On/Off (Matador/OLE143)  Promo copy.  5 tracks.  Slight
fatigue on Digi-pak spine.  Compared to TFUL282.  Toured with Yo La Tengo.
        SCENIC -- Incident At Cima (IPR-050CD)  Radio promo copy.  42
minutes.  14 tracks.  In jewel case.
        SLOWDIVE -- Souvlaki (SBK-88263)  57 minutes.  14 tracks, 4 are
exclusive to this US version.
        SLOWDIVE -- Alison (SBK/DPRO-08729)  Promo single. 2 tracks:
Alison and non-album track Moussaka Chaos.  No insert.
        KENDRA SMITH -- Valley of the Morning Sun (4AD/PROCD-7743-R)
Promo single.  Two tracks: radio edit and album version.
        SPACEMEN 3 -- Big City (RCA/RDJ-2801)  Promo release.  20
minutes.  4 tracks: Drive (Everybody I Know Can Be Found Here), Drive,
Big City (Waves of Joy) demo and Drive (demo).  No inset.
        SPIRITUALIZED -- Run (BMG/RDJ-62269)  Promo single.  2 tracks:
Run and Angel Sigh.
        SPIRITUALIZED -- I Want You (BMG/RDJ-62327)  Promo single.  17
minutes.  2 tracks: I Want You and unreleased Feel So Bad.  No insert.
        SPIRITUALIZED -- Lay Back In the Sun (Arista/ASCD-2840)  Promo
single.  2 tracks: alternate edited master version, and the album version.
        SPIRITUALIZED -- Let It Flow (Spirit-009CD)  25 minutes.  4 tracks.
Number 2 in a series of ltd. edition singles.  Cardboard sleeve.  Made in UK.
        STRAITJACKET FITS -- Melt (Arista/ARCD-8645)  43 minutes.  12
tracks.  Cut-out copy.
        STRAITJACKET FITS -- Missing from Melt (Arista/ASCD-2244)  5 tracks:
3 remixes, plus non-album tracks In Spite of It All and Cave In. Cut-out copy.
        STRAITJACKET FITS -- Blow (Arista/AD-18697)  47 minutes.  13
tracks.  Cut-out copy.
        SWERVEDRIVER -- Last Train to Satansville  (A&M/31458-8247) Promo
e.p.  30 minutes.  6 tracks: edit, remix and 4 exclusive tracks.  Digi-pak.
        SWERVEDRIVER -- Reel to Real (A&M/75021-2402)  Promo copy.
16  minutes.  4 tracks: three exclusive.
        SWERVEDRIVER -- Never Lose That Feeling (CRESCD-120) 23 minutes.
4 tracks.  Made in France.
        TARNATION -- The Hand (4AD/PRO-CD-7798) Promo-only single. With
standard 4AD promo design: orange cd, no insert. 1 track: edit version.
        ULTRA VIVID SCENE -- Candida (Chaos/4AD/OSK 5111)  Promo e.p.
23 minutes.  5 tracks: three alternate versions of songs from Rev, as well as
versions of Opal's She's A Diamond and John Cale's Winter Song.
        VARIOUS -- The Winter of Our Discontent (T&N/Volume1)  Tooth and
Nail Records 1994 Winter Sampler.  74 minutes.  23 tracks: 2-4 songs each
from Star Flyer 59, MxPx, Wish for Eden, Havalina Moon, and 4 more bands.
        VARIOUS -- Doctor Death's Volume III (CLM-CD007)  Promo copy.
45 minutes.  11 tracks from Legendary Pink Dots, Beautiful Pea Green Boat,
Drowning Pool, Controlled Bleeding, Heavenly Bodies, Front Line Ass., & more.
        VARIOUS -- Opal: Assembly 1 (PRO-CD-3175)  Promo-only release.
34 minutes.  10 track sampler of Opal recording artists, including Hugo Largo,
Brian Eno, Roger Eno, Harold Budd and Laraaji.  Comes with a detailed booklet.
        THE VERVE -- This Is Music (HUTCD54)  3 tracks.  Made in England.
        THE VERVE -- No Come Down (B Sides & Outtakes)  (YARDCD7)  44
minutes.  9 tracks.  Foldout Digi-Pak.  Faint writing in marker on CD face.
        THE WOLFGANG PRESS -- A Girl Like You (4AD/WB/PRO-CD-5415)  Promo
single.  1 track: album version.
        THE WOLFGANG PRESS -- Mamma Told Me Not to Come (4AD-40674)
Compact Disc Maxi-Single.  5 tracks: remixes of Mamma Told Me Not to Come
and Birmingham to Jerusalem.  Slight scuff on cardboard spine.


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Vinyl for Sale/Trade
===================

        TORI AMOS -- Under the Pink (Atlantic/82567)  Special limited
edition pink vinyl.  Still in shrink wrap.  LP.
        AREA -- Fragments of the Morning (CLM-LP031)  Promo copy.  43
minutes.  10 tracks.  On white vinyl.  Slight scuffing on sleeve.  LP.
        AREA -- The Perfect Dream (CLM-LP006)  Promo copy.  10 tracks.
        COCTEAU TWINS -- A Kissed Out Red Floatboat (SPRO-79512)  Promo
2-sided 12 inch single.
        COCTEAU TWINS -- Iceblink Luck (V-15626)  3 tracks: b/w Mizake
the Mizan, and Watchlar.  12 inch single.  Some fatigue on sleeve.
        COCTEAU TWINS -- Heaven or Las Vegas (SPRO-79415/79427)
Promo 12 inch single.  3 tracks: HoLV edit, b/w Dials and album version.
        ALISONS HALO -- Dozen/Calendar (IPR049) Promo copy.  2 track 7
inch.  Letterpress foldover sleeve.
        TH FAITH HEALERS -- My Loser/Oh Baby (Elektra/ST-E-64666) Promo-only
7 inch welcoming Th Faith Healers to Elektra in '92. Transparent blue vinyl.
        FELT -- Valentine/Swell (Only Records/OLR069)  2 track 7 inch.
Cherry-red transparent vinyl.  Comes with lyric sheet and short bio.
        HALF STRING -- Oval/Sun Less Sea (IPR047/TX002)  Promo copy.  2
track 7 inch.  Limited edition of 1000 copies.  Letterpress foldover sleeve.
        HEAVENLY BODIES -- Celestial (CLM-LP010)  Promo copy.  9 tracks.
        HUMAN HANDS -- s/t (IPR/005) Second Edition reissue from 1990.
23 track double LP. All Songs recorded betweem 1979 and 1981. Unused copy.
        JESUS AND MARY CHAIN -- Automatic (WB/9-26015)  Promo copy.
10 tracks.  Excellent condition.  LP.
        LUSH -- Gala (4AD/Reprise/9-26463)  Promo copy.  15 tracks. LP.
        MAZZY STAR -- She's My Baby/Halah (Capitol/NR-58286)  Limited
promo-only 7 inch for college radio.  Blue marble vinyl.
        PIXIES -- Doolittle (4AD/Elektra/9-60856)  15 track LP.
        SCENIC -- The Kelso Run (IPR046)  Promo copy.  3 track 7 inch: b/w
East Mojave Shuffle and Down Black Canyon Road.  Letterpress foldover
sleeve.  Limited edition of 1200.
        VARIOUS -- Ain't This Bliss, With You This (Spin the Bottle/STB001)
1994 Double 7 inch compilation.  1 song each from 5 artists: TARNATION, THE
BUCKETS, ASSPONYS, THE DOUBTERS, and DIESELHED.
        VARIOUS -- 4AD Promo 7 inch (4AD/CHIN 1) Double A-side promo featuring
Walking In Straight Lines by INSIDES and Bad Child's Dolly by THE GLEE CLUB.
        PAUL WELLER -- Shadow of the Sun (live) (Go Discs/PNME01)  3
track 7 inch: b/w Sunflower (Lynch Mob Dub Edit) and Wild Wood (Sheared
Wood, Portishead remix).  Originally free with an issue of New Music Express.

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WANTED
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        I would be interested in making a trade for the UK 4AD sampler Facing
the Wrong Way.  I am looking for quality dubs of promotional videos from Air
Miami/Unrest, Bettie Serveert, Bjork, Breeders, Morrissey, and early Pixies.
        I am also interested in trading for rare/obscure releases (any format)
from these artists:  Air Miami/Unrest, Lou Barlow (Sebadoh/Sentridoh/etc.)
Bettie Serveert, Bjork, Kim Deal (The Breeders/The Amps/etc.), Everything But
the Girl/Marine Girls, various Factory releases, Lisa Germano, Grenadine, Ben
Lee/Noise Addict, Low, Luna/Galaxie 500, PJ Harvey, Barbara Manning/SF Seals,
Mission of Burma, Morrissey, Stina Nordenstam, Pale Saints, Pavement, The
Spinanes, 3Ds, most TeenBeat bands, Versus, and The Wedding Present.


Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:32:38 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: <> (long)


        Here's a long list of 4AD and 4AD-related CDs and Records that I'm
offering for sale and/or trade.  This is an AUCTION, so I'm looking for the
best offer for each item.  I will consider bids in cash, trade, or a
combination of the two.  My "want" list for trades is appended to the end.
If you make a cash offer, include estimated shipping costs in the total.
All of the items are in excellent condition, unless otherwise noted.

*** The auction ends at 11:00 EST on Wednesday, October 25, 1995 ***

I will update bidders on the status of their intended items via private e-mail.
I will repost this list to the 4AD-list once, half way through the action.

*** Send all bids via private e-mail to MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU ***


=================
CDs for Sale/Trade
=================

        18TH DYE -- Done (Matador/OLE117)  13 tracks.  39 minutes.  1st album.
        APHEX TWIN -- Donkey Rhubarb (Sire/66104)  Promo copy.  24 minutes.
4 tracks, one orchestrated by Philip Glass.  In FLP packaging.
        BAILTER SPACE -- Wammo (Matador/OLE142)  38 minutes.  10 tracks.
Comes in Digi-pak.  First album for Matador.
        FRANK BLACK -- Conversation and Music With...  (Elektra/PRCD-
8829)  Promo-only release.  45 minutes.  Interviewed by Kurt St. Thomas, June
22, 1993.  White carboard sleeve with image of FB on round sticker.
        FRANK BLACK -- Live 6/24/93 10pm est  (Elektra/4AD/PRCD?)  Promo-
only.  45 minutes.  Features They Might Be Giants on 14 FB and TMBG songs.
        THE BOO RADLEYS -- Lazy Day (Columbia/CSK4659)  Promo-only
single.  4 tracks: Vegas, Feels Like Tomorrow, and Whiplashed are exclusive.
        CATHERINE WHEEL -- Judy Staring At the Sea (Fontana/CDP-1496) Radio
promo single: album version, and Tanya Donelly-vocals version. Nice Digi-pak.
        CATHERINE WHEEL -- Crank (Fontana/CWCDB5)  Ltd. Edition single.
3 tracks: Crank, Pleasure and Tongue Twisted.  Slight indention on cover.
        CATHERINE WHEEL -- Show Me Mary (Fontana/CDP-1058)  Promo single.
3 tracks: SMM, High Heels and Mouth Full of Air. Cardboard sleeve, small scuff.
        CATHERINE WHEEL -- Black Metallic (Fontana/CDP-694)  Promo
single.  20 minutes.  Cardboard sleeve.  4 tracks: album version, UK edit,
KROQ edit, and Let Me Down Again.
        CATHERINE WHEEL -- The Nude (Fontana/CDP-1191)  Promo single.
Digi-pak foldout with three photos.  1 track: Scott Litt remix.
        NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS -- Live Seeds (Mute/9-61554)
Promo sampler for the Live Seeds CD/Photo book set.  60 minutes.  13 tracks.
        CHAPTERHOUSE -- Falling Down (BMG/RDJ-62019)  Promo single.
19 minutes.  4 tracks: two from album, plus Feel the Same, and Satin Safe.
        CHAPTERHOUSE -- We Are the Beautiful (Arista/ASCD-2626)
Promo e.p.  36 minutes.  4 tracks: two remixes, plus Frost, and Picnic.
        CONTROLLED BLEEDING -- Songs from the Ashes (CLM-CD022)  Promo
copy.  70 minutes.  16 tracks.
        CURVE -- Missing Link ep (Charisma/DPRO-14116)  Promo-only. 4 tracks:
album version and Trent Resnor remix, plus Rising, and Half the Time remixes.
        CURVE -- Blacker Three Tracker Two (Anxious/ANXCDS-42) Promo-only
release.  Same as Missing Link ep, but without the album version.
        DEAD CAN DANCE -- American Dreaming (PRO-CD-7213)  Promo single.
1 track: album version. CD is color of TTW, not the usual promo-orange.
        DEAD CAN DANCE -- Toward the Within (VADD4015)  Limited edition
cardboard box with the CD and videotape.  Mint condition (never been used).
        EDEN -- Gateway to the Mysteries (Third Mind/TMD-9219)  Promo
copy.  71 minutes.  16 tracks.
        BRIAN ENO -- The Shutov Assembly (Opal/WB-9-45010)  10 tracks
57 minutes.  Cut-out copy.
        BRIAN ENO -- Ali Click (Opal/WB-9-40650)  Compact Disc Maxi-
Single.  41 minutes.  8 tracks: 7 remixes, plus I Fall Up.
        BRIAN ENO -- Fractal Zoom (Opal/WB-9-40539)  Compact Disc
Maxi-Single.  70 minutes.  12 tracks: 11 remixes, plus The Roil, The Choke.
        BRIAN ENO -- Words and Music from Wrong Way Up (Opal/WB/PRO
CD-4691)  Promo-only release.  26 minutes.  6 tracks from the album, with
conversation inbetween.  No insert.
        BRIAN ENO -- Nerve Net (Opal/WB-9-45033)  Promo copy.  64 minutes.
12 tracks.  No insert.
        LISA GERMANO -- Stars (PRO-CD-7184)  Promo single. 1 track: album
version.  CD is black w/ stars, instead of the usual promo-orange color.
        THE HAIR & SKIN TRADING CO. -- Psychedelische Musique (Lava Surf
Kunst) (FRR-011CD)  52 minutes.  14 tracks.  Digi-pak.  Made in England.
        HALF STRING -- Tripped Up Breathing  (IPR-048CD)  5 track e.p. in
beautiful Independent Project Records packaging.
        KRISTIN HERSH -- Your Ghost (PRO-CD-6714) Promo single. Album version.
        HIS NAME IS ALIVE -- In Every Ford (4AD/PRO-CD-6069)  Promo
single.  5 tracks from Mouth By Mouth.
        HUMAN DRAMA -- s/t (Projekt/PRO052)  28 minutes.  8 tracks,
including a rerecording of the '89 single The Waiting Hour.  Their 5th release.
        KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION -- 4 Men (A&M/31458-8038)  Promo-
only sinlge.  3 tracks: 4 Men, Goodbye Voyager and Skin.  Digi-pak.
        LOOMINGS -- Dropping Bitter Tears e.p. (Mood Drawer/MDR013)
4 tracks: Terminus, Dull, April Lucy, and Fused.  Still shrink wraped.
        LUSH -- For Love (PRO-CD-5299)  Promo single. 1 track: album version.
        LUSH -- Superblast (PRO-CD-5471)  Promo ep.  4 tracks: remix, Starlust,
Fallin' In Love (Dennis Wilson cover), and the album version.
        LUSH -- De-Luxe (PRO-CD-4662)  Promo single. 3 tracks: single edit,
alternate single edit, and album version.
        LUSH -- LoveLife (PRO-CD-7092)  Promo single.  16 minutes.  3 tracks:
album version, suga bullit remix edit, and sugga bullit remix.
        LUSH -- Hypocrite (PRO-CD-6983) Promo single. 1 track: single version.
        LUSH -- Black Spring ep (4AD/BAD1016cd)  4 tracks: 2 from Spooky,
plus God's Gift and Fallin' In Love (by Dennis Wilson).  Produced by Robin
Guthrie. Made in England.
        MAGIC HOUR -- Will They Turn You On Or Will They Turn On You
(Twisted Village/TW-1035)  40 minutes.  6 tracks.
        MOONSHAKE -- Eva Luna sampler (Matador/PRCD-5157) 4 tracks from album.
        PETER MURPHY -- The Sweetest Drop (Beggars Banquet/HDJ-62239) Promo
only.  5 tracks: radio edit and album version, Low Room, plus live versions
of All Night Long and The Line Between the Devil's Teeth.  Cardboard sleeve.
        NEGATIVLAND -- Fair Use: the Story of the Letter U and the Numeral 2
(Seeland-013CD)  Promo-only release.  72 minutes.  10 tracks: nine songs, one
26-minute spoken word piece.  Radio sampler from CD/book release.
        STINA NORDENSTAM -- Little Star (EastWest/PRCD-5851)  Promo single.
14 minutes. 3 tracks: album version, be zet wireless edit, and celestial mix.
        PALE SAINTS -- Angel (Will You Be My) (PRO-CD-7140) Promo single.
1 track: album version. Artwork on CD different then usual promo-orange.
        POLARA -- s/t (Clean/CR-89276)  Promo copy.  12 tracks.  Includes
John Strohm (from Blake Babies, Velo-Deluxe). Toured with Spiritualized.
        RED HOUSE PAINTERS -- I Am A Rock (PRO-CD-6498)  Promo single.
1 track: edit version.
        RUN ON -- On/Off (Matador/OLE143)  Promo copy.  5 tracks.  Slight
fatigue on Digi-pak spine.  Compared to TFUL282.  Toured with Yo La Tengo.
        SCENIC -- Incident At Cima (IPR-050CD)  Radio promo copy.  42
minutes.  14 tracks.  In jewel case.
        SLOWDIVE -- Souvlaki (SBK-88263)  57 minutes.  14 tracks, 4 are
exclusive to this US version.
        SLOWDIVE -- Alison (SBK/DPRO-08729)  Promo single. 2 tracks:
Alison and non-album track Moussaka Chaos.  No insert.
        KENDRA SMITH -- Valley of the Morning Sun (4AD/PROCD-7743-R)
Promo single.  Two tracks: radio edit and album version.
        SPACEMEN 3 -- Big City (RCA/RDJ-2801)  Promo release.  20
minutes.  4 tracks: Drive (Everybody I Know Can Be Found Here), Drive,
Big City (Waves of Joy) demo and Drive (demo).  No insert.
        SPIRITUALIZED -- Run (BMG/RDJ-62269)  Promo single.  2 tracks:
Run and Angel Sigh.
        SPIRITUALIZED -- I Want You (BMG/RDJ-62327)  Promo single.  17
minutes.  2 tracks: I Want You and unreleased Feel So Bad.  No insert.
        SPIRITUALIZED -- Lay Back In the Sun (Arista/ASCD-2840)  Promo
single.  2 tracks: alternate edited master version, and the album version.
        SPIRITUALIZED -- Let It Flow (Spirit-009CD)  25 minutes.  4 tracks.
Number 2 in a series of ltd. edition singles.  Cardboard sleeve.  Made in UK.
        STRAITJACKET FITS -- Melt (Arista/ARCD-8645)  43 minutes.  12
tracks.  Cut-out copy.
        STRAITJACKET FITS -- Missing from Melt (Arista/ASCD-2244)  5 tracks:
3 remixes, plus non-album tracks In Spite of It All and Cave In. Cut-out copy.
        STRAITJACKET FITS -- Blow (Arista/AD-18697)  47 minutes.  13
tracks.  Cut-out copy.
        SWERVEDRIVER -- Last Train to Satansville  (A&M/31458-8247) Promo
e.p.  30 minutes.  6 tracks: edit, remix and 4 exclusive tracks.  Digi-pak.
        SWERVEDRIVER -- Reel to Real (A&M/75021-2402)  Promo copy.
16  minutes.  4 tracks: three exclusive.
        SWERVEDRIVER -- Never Lose That Feeling (CRESCD-120) 23 minutes.
4 tracks.  Made in France.
        TARNATION -- The Hand (4AD/PRO-CD-7798) Promo-only single. With
standard 4AD promo design: orange cd, no insert. 1 track: edit version.
        ULTRA VIVID SCENE -- Candida (Chaos/4AD/OSK 5111)  Promo e.p.
23 minutes.  5 tracks: three alternate versions of songs from Rev, as well as
versions of Opal's She's A Diamond and John Cale's Winter Song.
        VARIOUS -- The Winter of Our Discontent (T&N/Volume1)  Tooth and
Nail Records 1994 Winter Sampler.  74 minutes.  23 tracks: 2-4 songs each
from Star Flyer 59, MxPx, Wish for Eden, Havalina Moon, and 4 more bands.
        VARIOUS -- Doctor Death's Volume III (CLM-CD007)  Promo copy.
45 minutes.  11 tracks from Legendary Pink Dots, Beautiful Pea Green Boat,
Drowning Pool, Controlled Bleeding, Heavenly Bodies, Front Line Ass., & more.
        VARIOUS -- Opal: Assembly 1 (PRO-CD-3175)  Promo-only release.
34 minutes.  10 track sampler of Opal recording artists, including Hugo Largo,
Brian Eno, Roger Eno, Harold Budd and Laraaji.  Comes with a detailed booklet.
        THE VERVE -- This Is Music (HUTCD54)  3 tracks.  Made in England.
        THE VERVE -- No Come Down (B Sides & Outtakes)  (YARDCD7)  44
minutes.  9 tracks.  Foldout Digi-Pak.  Faint writing in marker on CD face.
        THE WOLFGANG PRESS -- A Girl Like You (4AD/WB/PRO-CD-5415)  Promo
single.  1 track: album version.
        THE WOLFGANG PRESS -- Mamma Told Me Not to Come (4AD-40674)
Compact Disc Maxi-Single.  5 tracks: remixes of Mamma Told Me Not to Come
and Birmingham to Jerusalem.  Slight scuff on cardboard spine.


===================
Vinyl for Sale/Trade
===================

        TORI AMOS -- Under the Pink (Atlantic/82567)  Special limited
edition pink vinyl.  Still in shrink wrap.  LP.
        AREA -- Fragments of the Morning (CLM-LP031)  Promo copy.  43
minutes.  10 tracks.  On white vinyl.  Slight scuffing on sleeve.  LP.
        AREA -- The Perfect Dream (CLM-LP006)  Promo copy.  10 tracks.
        COCTEAU TWINS -- A Kissed Out Red Floatboat (SPRO-79512)  Promo
2-sided 12 inch single.
        COCTEAU TWINS -- Iceblink Luck (V-15626)  3 tracks: b/w Mizake
the Mizan, and Watchlar.  12 inch single.  Some fatigue on sleeve.
        COCTEAU TWINS -- Heaven or Las Vegas (SPRO-79415/79427)
Promo 12 inch single.  3 tracks: HoLV edit, b/w Dials and album version.
        ALISONS HALO -- Dozen/Calendar (IPR049) Promo copy.  2 track 7
inch.  Letterpress foldover sleeve.
        TH FAITH HEALERS -- My Loser/Oh Baby (Elektra/ST-E-64666) Promo-only
7 inch welcoming Th Faith Healers to Elektra in '92. Transparent blue vinyl.
        FELT -- Valentine/Swell (Only Records/OLR069)  2 track 7 inch.
Cherry-red transparent vinyl.  Comes with lyric sheet and short bio.
        HALF STRING -- Oval/Sun Less Sea (IPR047/TX002)  Promo copy.  2
track 7 inch.  Limited edition of 1000 copies.  Letterpress foldover sleeve.
        HEAVENLY BODIES -- Celestial (CLM-LP010)  Promo copy.  9 tracks.
        HUMAN HANDS -- s/t (IPR/005) Second Edition reissue from 1990.
23 track double LP. All Songs recorded betweem 1979 and 1981. Unused copy.
        JESUS AND MARY CHAIN -- Automatic (WB/9-26015)  Promo copy.
10 tracks.  Excellent condition.  LP.
        LUSH -- Gala (4AD/Reprise/9-26463)  Promo copy.  15 tracks. LP.
        MAZZY STAR -- She's My Baby/Halah (Capitol/NR-58286)  Limited
promo-only 7 inch for college radio.  Blue marble vinyl.
        PIXIES -- Doolittle (4AD/Elektra/9-60856)  15 track LP.
        SCENIC -- The Kelso Run (IPR046)  Promo copy.  3 track 7 inch: b/w
East Mojave Shuffle and Down Black Canyon Road.  Letterpress foldover
sleeve.  Limited edition of 1200.
        VARIOUS -- Ain't This Bliss, With You This (Spin the Bottle/STB001)
1994 Double 7 inch compilation.  1 song each from 5 artists: TARNATION, THE
BUCKETS, ASSPONYS, THE DOUBTERS, and DIESELHED.
        VARIOUS -- 4AD Promo 7 inch (4AD/CHIN 1) Double A-side promo featuring
Walking In Straight Lines by INSIDES and Bad Child's Dolly by THE GLEE CLUB.
        PAUL WELLER -- Shadow of the Sun (live) (Go Discs/PNME01)  3
track 7 inch: b/w Sunflower (Lynch Mob Dub Edit) and Wild Wood (Sheared
Wood, Portishead remix).  Originally free with an issue of New Music Express.

=======
WANTED
=======
        I would be interested in making a trade for the UK 4AD sampler Facing
the Wrong Way.  I am looking for quality dubs of promotional videos from Air
Miami/Unrest, Bettie Serveert, Bjork, Breeders, Morrissey, and early Pixies.
        I am also interested in trading for rare/obscure releases (any format)
from these artists:  Air Miami/Unrest, Lou Barlow (Sebadoh/Sentridoh/etc.)
Bettie Serveert, Bjork, Kim Deal (The Breeders/The Amps/etc.), Everything But
the Girl/Marine Girls, various Factory releases, Lisa Germano, Grenadine, Ben
Lee/Noise Addict, Low, Luna/Galaxie 500, PJ Harvey, Barbara Manning/SF Seals,
Mission of Burma, Morrissey, Stina Nordenstam, Pale Saints, Pavement, The
Spinanes, 3Ds, most TeenBeat bands, Versus, and The Wedding Present.

<>


Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:50:41 -0400
From: Cath Carroll (FAC179@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Hope Hull


>It seems that even at 4AD no one knows anything about Hope Hull...

Someone posted something about this a few weeks ago. They don't exist. It was
a little joke.

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:50:38 -0400
From: Cath Carroll (FAC179@AOL.COM)
Subject: ALVIN LIVES IN ATHENS


For anybody that is interested, Wuxtry in Athens, GA. has "Alvin Lives In
Leeds" (in the various artists section) on CD brand new for $9.99. I don't
know if they will do mail order, but it is at least worth a try don't you
think (and better than $25).

Auctions are crap,

FAC 179


Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 10:12:57 -0400
From: lorelei tremolor (lfl3858@IS2.NYU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Saint Etienne


On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Larry Koch wrote:

> >Does anyone have any other info on these guys?  I tried glancing back through
> >old mail on this thread but didn't find anything enlightening.

Bob Stanley used to have an amazing record label of his own called
"Icerink," with loads of groovy St.Etienne-ish dancepop bands.  Shampoo
was also on that label...but that label is no more.  Now Bob has started
a new label called "Royal Mint" and i don't think any of the Icerink
bands are on it.  I'm not too sure though.  Most of the Icerink bands
broke up.

St.Etienne is an awesome band- they put on such a beautiful show and are
wonderful people.  you must must must look into them.  they've newly
recorded a cover of Right Said Fred's "I'm Too Sexy" and they've turned
it into a melancholy dancepop song...so beautiful...

lorraine


Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 15:58:51 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Saint Etienne

              "lorelei tremolor" at Oct 17, 95 10:12:57 am

lorelei tremolor  wrote:
 >
 > St.Etienne is an awesome band- they put on such a beautiful show
 > and are wonderful people.  you must must must look into them.
 > they've newly recorded a cover of Right Said Fred's "I'm Too
 > Sexy" and they've turned it into a melancholy dancepop song...so
 > beautiful...

This is a couple of years old, at least - three Heavenly bands did an EP
of RSF covers, I think the Rockingbirds were one of the others.
Fundraising for AIDS, I seem to remember.

4AD binge this lunchtime - bought the Tarnation and Mojave 3 albums (the
latter has one of the prettiest covers I have seen for ages), and the
Air Miami EP.


--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 17/10/95
On my walkman this morning : Pavement - Wowee Zowee
Where the sea meets the moon-blanch'd land,


Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:43:48 -0700
From: "PLOCKE.US.ORACLE.COM" (PLOCKE@US.ORACLE.COM)
Subject: the amps/new kristin hersh e.p.


over the weekend i got the amps' new single, "tipp city,"
and i really like it quite a lot.  i realize this is a
minority opinion on the list.  i'd heard and liked "empty
glasses" on ftww, and enjoyed the two new songs, as well.

i admit that at less than 6 minutes it's kind of a ripoff,
but hey...

yesterday i got the new i.c.e. newsletter and noticed, with
pleasant surprise that kristin hersh is scheduled to
release an e.p. on rykodisc on october 31st.  it's called
"the holy single", and i guess it's a christmas theme.  i
heard her say a while back that she'd be doing a christmas
release, and i guess this is it.

--phil


Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 10:37:54 -0800
From: kenneth (nneth@CONNECTUS.COM)
Subject: 4ad-Influenced musicians


Greetings all.  I'm rather new to this list so I'm not sure if this has been
discussed yet.  But here goes:  Is there anyone here who actually plays
music or is in a band?  I've been in several bands in the past few years
but, owning to living (temporarily!) in a musically uncool town, have
nothing going on right now.  A bit of input from other 4ad-inspired
musicians would be great (private email would be fine if this is not
list-appropriate).

Oh, yeah, I play bass (mostly) and keyboards, will be moving to the San
Francisco area next year and am currently pondering starting a small label.

Pardon the use of bandwidth for this and thanks.

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 09:26:44 -0700
From: Elvia Tarango (elvia@UCLINK3.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: RHP


>Well about 10 days ago, Mark was on KCRW (in LA) and he said the reason
>he bagged 4ad was because they wanted to rework their upcoming release.

 Brett, sheesh, I only wished you would've taped it. I know, you were at work.
Thanks everyone for the bits of info like this. I always like to hear it!

>He did not have one good thing to say about Ivo. I guess he wanted to
>remove guitar parts of a 7 minute song to make it about 4 min. or so.
>This did not sit well with Mark.

You're darn staright it didn't sit well! That kinda bugs me because I
didn't really see the big deal with it all. Most of their songs are pretty
long anyway.I think they (4AD) should have let them do what they had to do.
What's more disturbing is the fact that at Mark's solo show in june/July
(can't remember) in San Francisco, he was quite happy because he mentioned
that 4AD had agreed to pay for the additional record production time (which
he seemed to imply was a concern of the bands). But now, no new album! And,
in regards to Ivo, yeah, he doesn't seem to have anything good to say about
the guy or his "crew".

 One song stood out as being real good. The title had
>somthing to do with paper.

I think it's "Make like Paper". I also like it myself. Again, thanks for
the info Brett!

Elvia

(elvia@uclink3.berkeley.edu)


Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 09:16:13 -0700
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: Saint Etienne


On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Robert Pietrusko wrote:

> >i just heard the St.Etienne cover of "I'm Too Sexy" and it's
> >beautiful!!!!  It's turned into the mostest melancholiest song...
>
> what is that from, i have never heard it and i am very intersted.
>                             -robert.

        It is on The Fred Ep.  A single of Right Said Fred covers with
St. Etienne, The Rockingbirds, and Flowered Up, all artists on Heavenly
records.
        St. Etienne does the best job with "I'm Too Sexy".  They sample
The Smiths and add their own goofy lyrics about trousers or something, with
Bob or Pete doing the spoken word bits (not sounding quite so much like
Elmer Fudd as RSF) and Sarah doing the chorus.
        It is quite humorous.  I wouldn't really call it melancholy, though
Sarah's vocals certainly aren't quite as peppy as RSF.  I believe it is
HVNCD19 or 29.
        Oh, and proceeds from sale of the single went to the Terence
Higgins Trust, an AIDS prevention/research organization, because some
members of Right Said Fred are out as gay/bisexual.

        David, an out gay man


Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:07:21 +1100
From: Matthew Kirkcaldie (matthewk@POSTOFFICE.UTAS.EDU.AU)
Subject: Laugh lines


Jens wrote

"Honestly, I think smileys serve a useful function, but it drives me crazy
the way people come to rely on them as crutches... They've become the
laugh-track of online communication."

Absolutely.  This is the most accurate encapsulation of why I loathe them.
Asking, "Does irony carry across e-mail?" is like supposing that no book
could possibly be funny, because you can't see the author smile or hear a
laugh-track ... Only when there is the real possibility of someone taking
offense at something if it *wasn't* a joke, should colons and brackets be
used for anything other than punctuation.



                        Matthew.

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 13:56:53 -0400
From: GrimaceSCU@AOL.COM
Subject: Air Miami at San Jose State today


yeah, this is last minute, but Air Miami will be playing in the Student Union
Amphitheatre at San Jose State University today at Noon.  I would have
mentioned this sooner, but I wasn't sure if it was actually happening or not.
 you should try to make it.  they're good to go.

that was all....bu-bye
David

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 17:55:54 -0700
From: lushmuse (eahu597@EA.OAC.UCI.EDU)
Subject: the auction is over


thanks to all who bidded...here are the last bids and results:
1.cocteau twins: summerhead 1-track promo $5
3.alvin lives (in leeds) compilation: $25

thanks again!

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:18:06 -0400
From: Roy Burns (RBNRy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD catalog web-site


Will someone be a sweety and give us the address for the unofficial 4AD
catalog web-site.

Gracias,

RBNRy@aol.com


Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 22:12:22 -0300
From: Jennifer Alexander (alexande@NBNET.NB.CA)
Subject: Suscribe 4AD-L Jennifer Alexander


Hi! I've been a really big fan of Belly ever since last year when I bought
King.  I would really appreciate being on your mailing list since I don't
get any information on them around here. Thanks.

                                               'set 4AD-L mail'

                                                    Yours Truly,
                                                       Jennifer Alexander


Holly Alexander


Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 21:10:24 -0400
From: IVSONGS@AOL.COM
Subject: I've Got No Balls and I'm Facing The Wrong Way


Here's some stuff for  bid or trade... I will be extreeeeeeemely fare ('cuz I
might want someone to be that way towards me someday and I might want
somethin' from you).

Get your bids in before October 23.

"No Balls" sampler to the most reasonable bidder/trader.
This sampler features a track list that was, according to the eyesore data
base, hand-picked by Vaughan Oliver of v23.

PRO-CD-7300 (1994)

RHP - Summer Dress
TWP - People Say
LISA GERMANO - Cry Wolf
PALE SAINTS - One Blue Hill
KENDRA SMITH - Bold Marauder
AIR MIAMI - Airplane Rider (only 4AD CD appearance of this track)
HEIDI BERRY - The Mountain
DEAD CAN DANCE - Rakim

Bid away or offer me the "...And Dog Bones Too" 4AD sampler or any 4AD 7"s.


Next...

"Facing The Wrong Way"

FTWW I (1995)

SCHEER - Take You...
T. MUSES - Snakeface
RHP - Summer Dress
TARNATION - The Well
AIR MIAMI - You Sweet Little...
MOJAVE - Love songs
BELLY - Super-Connected
TWP - Christianity (Wicked Man Remix)
HEIDI BERRY - Miracle (New Version)
L. GERRARD - Sanvean
LIQUORICE - Cheap Cuts
K. SMITH - Valley Of The Morning Sun
THE AMPS - Empty Glasses (Kim's Basement 4 track version)

Bid away or offer me something like the LIQUORICE ESP Remix Promo CD.


And finally up for bids/trades...

AIR MIAMI - 7" with "I Hate Milk Milk"/"Afternoon Train" PROMO ONLY (Mint)
comes w/ little postcard

SCHEER - 7" with "Howling Boy"/"Demon" PROMO ONLY  (Mint)

UNREST - (non 4AD) - BOOT PEEL SESSIONS 7" ep (limited and numbered)

EMIGRE - 4AD issue (slightly weathered); Mint copies go for around $50 (only
a handful left from Emigre); so offer me whatever you think (I'd say mine is
1/2 mint). ESSENTIAL (extended  interviews with 23 Envelope, Ivo, Cocteaus,
Muses, unique artwork and release catalogue circa 1987). Large Format design
Quarterly.

V23 EXHIBITON CATALOGUE (1990 exhibit in Nantes, France w/ vellum cover).
Mint. Around 10" x 10".

That's all. Salut.

IV SONGS

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 22:29:52 -0400
From: Keith Kenez (Keithke@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: the amps/new kristin hersh e.p.


>> yesterday i got the new i.c.e. newsletter and noticed, with
pleasant surprise that kristin hersh is scheduled to
release an e.p. on rykodisc on october 31st.  it's called
the holy single", and i guess it's a christmas theme.  i
heard her say a while back that she'd be doing a christmas
release, and i guess this is it. <<

So the rumor I heard is true...Kristen is finally leaving major-label Sire
here in the states for cool indie label Ryko?  Sounded like a good move, it
certainly did wonders for Bob Mould's career...

Keith
"I saw you kneeling on a desert plateau/Your eyes were melting from inside
your skull." - M. Gira


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