Subject: Re: question about the sundays
Subject: Re/Re:Skinny Puppy news
Subject: starbucks coffee in-store tape
Subject: no 4ad content. you have been enlightened and forewarned...
Subject: Sundays q/.mark./Lush effects
Subject: Germano/Lush/CT auction
Subject: Saint Etienne
Subject: Re: Five "very important" 4AD questions
Subject: COCTEAU ART WORK
Subject: 4AD 7"/12"/Promo CD's For Sale
Subject: Re: Saint Etienne
Subject: FS: eclectic, mostly altern update/Lower Prices!!
Subject: new LUSH song "Ladykiller"
Subject: Re: COCTEAU ART WORK
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 13 Oct 1995 to 14 Oct 1995
Subject: RHP (again) and Ocean Beach
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 01:12:16 EDT
>just wondering what other cds and such did the sundays put out besides
>their 2 cds, "reading writing and arithmetic", and "blind". i.e. eps,
>live stuff, etc...a little discography would be appreciated!
They've released two exclusive studio b-sides to date -
"don't tell your mother" is on the "can't be sure" single, released on
rought trade (RT 218) in 1989. It is also on the DGC rarities vol 1 comp.
"noise" was a b-side for the "goodbye" single release on parlophone in 1992
there is a live version of here's where the story ends on the "wild horses"
cassingle.
all other singles just have radio edits or lp versions.
there is a French Black Sessions promo CD with three live tracks: here's
where the story ends, hideous towns and my finest hour.
That's it other than bootlegs. As far as I can tell, they have done two
songs live that they have not recorded yet. One is called Turkish and is
really amazing - beautiful vocals from harriet and just david on guitar -
no bass or drums. The other is called "something more" (i think) and
is IMO their worst song, so i won't be disappointed if they don't record it.
>p.s. listening to "reading writing and arithmetic" right now and
>remembered they were on the rough trade label...did they release anything
>besides "rw&a" before, i.e. the slowdive eps before "just for a day"?
just the can't be sure single, then they took a year off to record
rw&a.
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 00:41:00 CDT
Thanks for the corrections, Lawren.
I would note,however, that while it is indeed quite hard to pigeonhole them into
"thislisty" category, their efforts have been quite seminal and untraditional.
Isn't it the kind of music we usually discuss on this list? Not an attempt to
start a thread,though.
Salute. Boroda
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 02:23:39 -0700
hey everyone!
just wanted to let everyone know that starbucks just received a new
in-store play tape today, which includes red house painters' "cabezon",
dead can dance's "the wind that shakes the barley", and cocteau twins'
"pandora"...all on the same tape with k.d. lang and all these other people.
the last tape had mostly capitol artists, including cocteau twins
("bluebeard", "oil of angels", "theft and wandering..."), radiohead,
mazzy star, and even the beastie boys!!! (ricky's theme...an
instrumental...)
i wonder how they pick who or what is to be on each in-store tape...i think
following dead can dance is k.d. lang or robbie robertson or
someone...there's also everything but the girl on the tape...
and i wonder if 4ad knows about this.
oh well...
laters!
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 04:59:42 -0700
any creative writers on the list? poets or whatnot? i ask because
i'm musing over an idea i had awhile back. so i just wanted to
know what creative kids are on this list...can't divulge any more
than that publically, because i think all my ideas suck and i
want to save myself a lot of embarrassment...
danke,
*k*
...he's constantly slipping from my grasp...
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 10:40:52 -0400
>just wondering what other cds and such did the sundays put out besides
>their 2 cds, "reading writing and arithmetic", and "blind". i.e. eps,
>live stuff, etc...a little discography would be appreciated!
There were, I think, two singles from RW&A but the b-sides were just other
album tracks, so nothing special there. No, wait...they have a track on a
Geffen rarities compilation - that might have been a single b-side or maybe
just previously unreleased (it's entitled "Don't Tell Your Mother"). Then
there's the "Goodbye" single, which also contains "Wild Horses" (added to
North American version of "Blind") and "Noise" (not included anywhere else).
I've seen bootleg tapes and some of those have previously unreleased songs,
I think.
>mark...der Prinz der Pailletten.
Prince of sequins?? Care to elaborate on that?
>Which pedals do Lush Use?
Well, on _Spooky_ it was basically anything Robin Guthrie told them to use
;) Or rather, they didn't use that many of their own pedals and just plugged
into Robin's effects rig. They don't really use as many as they used to, but
I know Emma has something called a Digitech Whammy pedal, whatever that is...
Saw _To Die For_ the other day and something about Joaquin Phoenix's
character struck me as oddly familiar. Couldn't place the resemblance at
first, but then it hit me: that tousled hair, that druggy stare, the denim
jacket...it's Jason Pierce! Okay, well maybe not that much...
Larry
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 12:14:52 -0400
<----AUCTION ENDS OCT. 17---->
<----AUCTION ENDS OCT. 17---->
<----AUCTION ENDS OCT. 17---->
The bids so far...
Lisa Germano, "Inconsiderate Bitch" EP-->$15
--this disc is out-of-print; digipak in super condition
Lush, "For Love" EP-->$20
Astronaut
--Out-of-print; tri-fold digipak in super condition
Cocteau Twins interview picture CD-->$30
--A 40+ minute interview with the Twins; made in England; ltd. ed. of 1500;
catalog #ABCD010 "The Conversation Disc Series" (not by 4AD)
--Cover has picture of band; CD has color picture of Liz's face
send all bids to [email protected]
Hurry! Time is dwindling!
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 13:52:06 -0500
Just a quick note to tell everyone that I think St. Etienne's CD _so tough_ is
fantastic! Otherworldy vocals, at times, mixed with a funky bass and
scattered sound samples of 50's tv blend together perfectly on this.
Does anyone have any other info on these guys? I tried glancing back through
old mail on this thread but didn't find anything enlightening.
Anyway, its a great CD if you've never heard it.
marvynHortman
PS I reckon the rare-tape-thingie is dead judging from the lack of response to
my previous note...I guess no one gives a shit about the "lost-in-progress"
tape-chain at this point. :(
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 18:42:24 EDT
Re Amps LP. It is called Pacer
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 18:43:34 -0400
Something just hit me...who is the person responsible for doing all
the incredible wierd, spooky photographs and artwork for CT
albums...especially head over heels and ummm... the PEPERMINT PIG CD
SINGLE! That photograph is one of the creepiest I've ever seen. For those
of you not familliar, it's a photo of a murky day in front of a house
surrounded by water and some woman neck deep in the water(maybe it's Liz)
and inlayed in reverse of that photo is the same except backwards, color
changed and zoomed in. Really incredible stuff!
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 20:44:25 -0400
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Date: 15 OCT 1995 00:38:48 GMT
FOR SALE (All items are UK releases):
PROMO CD (w/picture sleeve) Catalogue # COND.
($20) THIS MORTAL COIL "4-song Promo" from BLOOD ('91) TMC 1 CD EX/EX
7" SINGLES (all with picture sleeve unless noted)
($8) IN CAMERA "Final Achievement"/"Die Laughing" AD 8 FI/EX
($5) PALE SAINTS (Tintwistle Brass Band) PROMO rib 1 EX
--no P/S as issued--"a thousand stars burst open"/"a revelation"
($5) ULTRA VIVID SCENE PROMO demo versions AD 908 EX
--no P/S as issued--"Something to Eat"/"H like in Heaven"
12" Singles/LP's (w/picture sleeve (p/s) unless noted) Catalogue # COND.
(LP's w/lyric sheet(LS) unless noted)
($15) BAUHAUS "In the Flat Field" (w/orig. inner label) CAD 13 EX/EX
($5) BAUHAUS "4 A.D." (6-song EP) BAD 312 EX/EX
**BREATHLESS features vocalist Dominic Appleton of THIS MORTAL COIL***
($10) BREATHLESS "Ageless"/"New Chapter"/"Fallen Dreams"BREATH 2 EX/EX
($10) BREATHLESS "Two Days From Eden" (4-song EP) BREATH 3 M/M
($10) BREATHLESS "The Glass Bead Game" BREATHLP4 M/M
($8) BREATHLESS "Nailing Clours to the Wheel"(4-song EP)BREATH 5 M/M
($3) BREATHLESS "Three Times and Waving" [US Rough Trade] EX/EX
($4) BREATHLESS "I Never Know Where You Are"/ BREATH 8 EX/EX
($5) FELT "Ballad of the Band"/ CRE 027T EX/EX
($5) FELT "Final Resting of the Ark" (5-song) CRE 048T EX/EX
**above 2 12" Singles produded by Robin Guthrie of Cocteau Twins**
($4) FELT "Space Blues"/ [promo punch] CRE 060T EX/EX
($5) HIS NAME IS ALIVE "Livonia" CAD 0008 M/M
($5) LOWLIFE "Rain" (6-song EP) [ex-Cocteau Twins] LOLIF 1 EX/EX
($5) LOWLIFE "Permanent Sleep" [ex-Cocteau Twins] LOLIF 2 EX/EX
($5) LOWLIFE "Diminuendo" [ex-Cocteau Twins] LOLIF 4 EX/EX
($5) PALE SAINTS "Comforts of Madness" (promo punch) CAD 0002 EX/EX
($3) RICHENEL "L'Esclave Endormi" BAD 601 VG/EX
($4) THIS MORTAL COIL "It'll End in Tears" CAD 411 EX/EX
($3) ULTRA VIVID SCENE "S/T" [US promo punch] ROUGH US 54 EX/EX
($3) ULTRA VIVID SCENE "Staring at the Sun"/ (promo) uvs 1 EX/EX
($3) ULTRA VIVID SCENE "Special One" [US promo] 44-73534 EX/EX
($4) XMAL DEUTSCHLAND "Fetisch" CAD 302 EX/EX
($4) XMAL DEUTSCHLAND "Tocsin" CAD 407 EX/EX
($4) XMAL DEUTSCHLAND "Viva" XMAL P1 EX/EX
($3) XYMOX "Obsession"/"In a City" [US promo] PRO 711-1 EX/EX
($3) XYMOX "Blind Hearts (club mix)"/ [US] 889 633-1 EX/EX
($4) XYMOX "Blind Hearts"/"Senses Coalesce","Promies"[US promo]PRO 781-1EX/EX
($3) XYMOX "Imagination(dance)"/ [US promo stamp] 873 001-1 EX/EX
($5) XYMOX "Phoenix of My Heart" [US promo w/discography]868-133-1 EX/EX
($3) XYMOX "At the End of the Day"/ [US promo stamp] 867 321-1 EX/EX
If you need any info on an item, feel free to e-mail. Prices do not include shi
ping and are negotiable.
chris
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 18:39:30 CST
In Message Sun, 15 Oct 1995 13:52:06 -0500, [email protected] writes:
>Just a quick note to tell everyone that I think St. Etienne's CD _so tough_ is
>fantastic! Otherworldy vocals, at times, mixed with a funky bass and
>scattered sound samples of 50's tv blend together perfectly on this.
>
i didn't like so tough as much as foxbase alpha. st. etienne did remix the
boo radley's rodney king on the lazarus promo, and that's pretty good. if i
remember right, they have multiple singers, but that's all i really know.
oh, and tiger bay differs significantly from the music on so tough and
foxbase, but i haven't heard enough to know much more.
eric
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 20:48:21 -0400
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Date: 14 OCT 1995 19:15:31 GMT
Welcome to my post. E-mail me for specific condition info.
Don't like the price? I accept offers as well.
I will trade for certain Shriekback items (big time).
Shipping info at end of post.
Have a blast.
Most of these are used.
DEL=sold or held pending sale
t.p.=test pressing, c.o.=cut out
The Alarm|The Alarm (EP IRS SP70504)|$2
Beastie Boys|Shadrach (12" Capitol V-15523)|$13
Bonzo Goes to Washington|5 Minutes (12" Sleeping Bag SLX-666-13)|$15
Burning Sensations|Self-titled (EP EMI DLP-15009|)$1
Cabaret Voltaire|Code (LP EMI-Manhattan MLT-46999)|$3
Chris and Cosey|Exotica (LP Nettwerk NTL30016)|$5
The Clash|The Clash w/"Gates of West" 7" (LP CBS/Epic 36060 - heavy
wear - JPN sleeve)|$5
Clock DVA|Bitstream (12" Contempo TEMPO 183)|DEL
Clock DVA|Final Program (12" Contempo TEMPO 173)|DEL
Clock DVA|Sound Mirror (t.p.) (12" WaxTrax! WAX9105)|$6
Cocteau Twins|Sunburst & Snowblind (EP 4AD BAD 314)|$5
Cocteau Twins|Moon & the Melodies (LP 4AD CAD611)|$7
Coil|Panic/Tainted Love (12" WAX013 - heavy wear)|DEL
Depeche Mode|Stripped (highland mix) (12" Gr Intercord/Mute blue
vinyl)|$15
Dexy's Midnight Runners|Searching... Young Soul Rebels|(LP
EMI/Parlophone PCS 7213)$4
Echo & the Bunnymen|Porcupine (LP Sire/Korova 9 23770-1)|$2
Echo & the Bunnymen|Bring on the Dancing Horses (12" WEA/Korova KOW
43(T))|$1
Max Eider|The Best Kisser in the World (LP promo Bigtime 6046-1-B)|$1
Foetus|Wash/Slog (12" WOMB FGH 8.12)|offer
Foolish American Quartet|Exit/Silly Dreams (7")|$4
Front 242|Headhunter (12" WAX 053)|DEL
Arlo Guthrie|Arlo (LP Reprise 6299)|$1
Hoodoo Gurus|Mars Needs Guitars (LP Bigtime BT 7053)|$2
Hoodoo Gurus|Stoneage Romeos (LP Bigtime/A&M SP5012|$2
Hula|Cut Me Loose (12" Red Rhino RED T80)|$6
INXS|Kick (LP Atlantic 7 81796-1)|$2
INXS|Shabooh Shoobah (LP Atco 90072-1)|$2
James|Village Fire (EP Factory FAC-138)|$9
The Jazz Butcher|Real Men (12" Glass 12041)|$4
The Jazz Butcher|Hamburg (Live LP Glass/Rebel SPV 08-1443)|$6
Jesus & Marychain|Upside Down (7" US Rough Trade/Creation RTUS 006)|$9
Jesus Couldn't Drum|Even Roses Have Thorns (12" Lost Moment LM12004)|$1
Joy Division|Unknown Pleasures (LP Factus 1)|$9
Kraftwerk|Radio-activity (LP Capitol/EMI ST11457)|$8
Monty Python|(Worst) Best... (2LP Buddah 0698)|$5
Mystere des Voix Bulgares (LP 4AD CAD 603)|$7
Naked Raygun|All Rise (LP Homestead HMS 045)|DEL
New Order|Brotherhood (LP UK Mint Fact 150)|DEL
New Order|blueMONDAY (Live LP Chicago 83?)|$18
New Order|They Came...We Saw...Their Music Conquered (Live LP 1983)|$8
New Order|Kohseinenkin Hall 5/1/85 (Live LP Hawkeye)|$5
Hazel O'Connor|Breaking Glass soundtrack (LP A&M SP4820)|$15
OMD|Waiting for the Man (10" DIN 15/10)|$8
Propaganda|Dr. Mabuse (7" UK ZTAS 2 - some wear)|DEL
R.E.M.|Green (LP WB 25795-1)|$3
R.E.M.|Document (LP WB IRS 42059)|$3
R.E.M.|Murmur (LP IRS SP 70014)|$3
The Raybeats|Guitar Beat (LP PVC 8904)|$3
The Rescue|Fashion Lies (LP/grey vinyl Gr Fuego 1120)|$8
Revolting Cocks|Beers, Steers & Queers (LP WAX 7063)|DEL
Silkworm|Libertine (LP El Recordo w/gig poster)|DEL
Style Council|Home & Abroad (LP c.o. Geffen GHS 24103)|free (w/order)
Test Dept.|TDA Faces of Freedom 1 2 & 3 (12" MOP/Some Bizzare 12 1)|DEL
Test Dept.|Unacceptable Face... (LP fold-out, slot torn Ministry of
Power/Some Bizzare MOP2)|$8
The The|Uncertain Smile (12" c.o. US Some Bizzare/Sire 9 29878-0 A)|$10
The The|This is the Day (12" US Some Bizzare/CBS 49-04315)|$15
The The|Slow Train to Dawn (12" UK Some Bizzare/CBS TENSE 1)|$4
The The|Infected (12" UK Some Bizzare/CBS TRUTH 03)|$4
The The|Shades of Blue (12" UK Epic 655796 8)|DEL
This Mortal Coil|Drugs/Come Here My Love Ltd. Ed. (10" 4AD BAD 608)|DEL
Tuscadero|Robinson Remixes EP (7" Teenbeat 169)|$2
U2|Boy (LP Ger Island 202 913-320)|$3
Various|Lonely is an Eyesore Ltd. Ed. (LP 4AD CAD D 703)|$40
Various|Abstact #5 w/o 'zine! (LP Sweatbox SAM 005)|$5
Various|Columbia Jazz Festival (LP JS 1)|$3
Various|Flipside #2 (LP/'zine FSR 3)|$6
Various|Sgt. Pepper Knew my Father (LP NME PEPLP-100)|$8
Various|NME readers' poll '84 (7" w/B. Beat, C. Twins, Smiths, U2
GIV1B)|$4
The Waterboys|Self-titled (EP Island 90147-1-B)|$2
Wire|Peel Sessions (EP Strange Fruit SFPS041)|$4
The Wolfgang Press|The Burden of Mules (LP 4AD CAD 308)|$4
Xmal Deutschland|Sequenz (EP Exile/Fundamental PRAY 2)|$8
Zoviet France|1982/Ritual (burlap) (EP Red Rhino RED12)|$18
Shipping, packing, $3 for first record, .25 for affitional.
I accept checks, but money orders preferable.
I will put the $ in the bank before I send anything out
unless I have dealt with you before.
David Bivins
[email protected]
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 21:25:06 -0500
I'm not sure if anybody has posted anything about this, but I
recently received a Reprise sampler that contains a new Lush track titled
"Ladykillers." The vocals are quite different than the vocals on previous
releases. Miki sounds just a little pissed...:) The song is absolutely
brilliant! If anybody is interested in a dubbed copy, send me a message
PRIVATELY to: [email protected]
david
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 02:48:25 +0200
> Something just hit me...who is the person responsible for doing all
>the incredible wierd, spooky photographs and artwork for CT
>albums...especially head over heels and ummm... the PEPERMINT PIG CD
>SINGLE!
Everything before 'Blue Bell Knoll' was done by Vaughan Oliver (23 envelope/v23)
He has worked with different photographers...
In most cases you can find this kind of information on the sleeves but on
the 'Peppermint Pig' release you will only find the '23 envelope'-logo (12'
version).
The photographer on 'Pepermint Pig" was Nigel Gierson, who did a lot of
work for the Cocteau Twins sleeves (like head over heels/treasure/tiny
dynamine/echoes in a shallow bay etc.) and a lot of things for other 4AD
releases in the early days.
If you want to know more about v23, there are a few books and magazine
articles about them...
(two french exhibition catalogues/this rimy river l.a. exhibition
catalogue/emigre 4AD special and more)
After 'Blue Bell Knoll' the Cocteau Twins took the artwork in their 'own'
hands - they worked with other graphic designers, who created a less
interesting 'poor-v23-kind-of-style' (personal opinion :)
Emiel Efdee
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