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Subject: Re: searching for Dif Juz.....
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 21:16:55 PST
From: "Martin A. HOYT" (MAHOYT@UCI.EDU)
Subject: revised Elysium dates
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:38:12 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: searching for Dif Juz.....
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:22:48 +0900
From: naoyuki fukumoto (nao@SUPER.WIN.OR.JP)
Subject: Re: searching for Dif Juz.....
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:49:46 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Pink Opaque & Scheer
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:01:29 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Scheer
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:27:08 +0100
From: "'H'y" (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: a poem, by anne sexton. actual 4ad content buried inside...
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:36:39 -0700
From: girly loop (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Spiritualized in Houston....
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:38:44 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: esp stuff in sf
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:42:14 -0700
From: "PLOCKE.US.ORACLE.COM" (PLOCKE@US.ORACLE.COM)
Subject: FS: ...think i'm getting the hang of it
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:24:31 -0700
From: "Chris.Hanks" (luna@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Lisa Gerrard in Minneapolis (for those going to 10-16 show)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:32:59 -0700
From: Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: AFGTH accomodations
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:55:35 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: searching for Dif Juz.....
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:17:23 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: esp stuff in sf
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:34:12 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: sorry, but...
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:35:16 -0400
From: st953km8@DUNX1.OCS.DREXEL.EDU
Subject: Re: a poem, by anne sexton. actual 4ad content buried insi
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:21:20 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: esp stuff in sf
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:07:25 -0400
From: Initialboy@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: B C D F
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:32:09 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: CATHERINE WHEEL (sell outs)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:37:23 -0700
From: Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: esp stuff in sf
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:22:51 -0400
From: Initialboy@AOL.COM
Subject: on the wheel
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:05:22 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Nadja [thislisty movie #2]
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:53:47 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: a poem, by anne sexton
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:55:19 -0700
From: nelson@HELIOS.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: A B C D E F G H
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:20:00 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: THE THE/GADGETS
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:41:41 -0700
From: Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re[2]: a poem, by anne sexton. actual 4ad content buried ins
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:04:45 CST
From: thad.engeling@CCQM.NATINST.COM
Subject: Dif Juz and the Bleeding Horizons
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:56:05 -0400
From: Cath Carroll (FAC179@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: a poem, by anne sexton. actual 4ad content buried insi
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:47:55 -0700
From: "Hello... NEWMAN!" (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: lorelei
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:13:38 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: THE THE/GADGETS
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:40:48 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: a poem, by anne sexton. actual 4ad content buried insi
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:25:31 -0700
From: girly loop (kelli@netcom.com)
Subject: autechre, anvil vapre, yes yes yes
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:34:33 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: Nadja [thislisty movie #2]
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:44:37 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Germano/Lush/CT auction update
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:47:30 -0400
From: Bairmiami@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: The Amps
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:13:13 -0400
From: Renee Castro (Rennyok@AOL.COM)
Subject: 4AD VIDS/BROTHERS QUAY
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 04:41:55 +0100
From: "Hugh O'Brien" (hugh@INTERNET-EIREANN.IE)
Subject: Amps
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:24:38 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 21:16:55 PST
From: "Martin A. HOYT" (MAHOYT@UCI.EDU)
Subject: Re: searching for Dif Juz.....


>I would love to know if anyone happens to know where I can get a Dif Juz CD.
>I don't think there was ever that much released on CD (I checked out the
>Eyesore DB on this), and I'm not sure its still in print for that matter.
>Every once and awhile I run into someone who says "Oh jea, that name sounds
>familiar" but I get no closer to getting my hands on something.  So if anyone
>has any hints, I'm all ears.

You can still obtain their "Extractions" CD w/ some bonus tracks from 4AD
mail order in London.  I think it's 11.00 pounds + 1.40 shipping.  The
address is on the FAQ.  I highly recommend this "album" (semantics is
everything).  It is 4AD at the peak of its form.

Martin
mahoyt@uci.edu


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:38:12 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: revised Elysium dates


Here are some revised Elysium tour dates

After Wednesday night's show they were not only asked back
for a second night, but also they're doing an in-store show
at Apple Records in San Antonio that day.

For some of these, I don't have addresses, so call information.

Thur.Oct.12th - San Antonio @ Coffee Gallery - 203 E. Commerce
                phone # 210-226-5123. this will be the best show yet!
Fri.Oct.13th - Austin @ Ruta Maya - 218 West 4th Street
Sat.Oct.14th - Tulsa @ the Xenophon - 20 E. Brady
Sun.Oct.15th - off
Mon.Oct.16th - Ft. Collins @ Tony's
Tues.Oct.17th - Denver @ Cricket on the Hill - 1209 E. 13th Street
Wed.Oct.18th - Provo @ Mama's Cafe
Thurs.Oct.19th - Salt Lake City @ The Holy Cow (still to be confirmed)
Fri.Oct.20th - Off
Sat.Oct.21st - San Francisco @ The Artist's Cafe
Mon.Nov.6th - The Whisky in Hollywood - FREE!!!

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:22:48 +0900
From: naoyuki fukumoto (nao@SUPER.WIN.OR.JP)
Subject: Re: searching for Dif Juz.....


At  9:30 PM 95.10.11 -0400, tOM. wrote:
>I would love to know if anyone happens to know where I can get a Dif Juz CD.  I
>don't think there was ever that much released on CD (I checked out the Eyesore
>DB on this), and I'm not sure its still in print for that matter.
>Every once and awhile I run into someone who says "Oh jea, that name sounds
>familiar" but I get no closer to getting my hands on something.  So if anyone
>has any hints, I'm all ears.

halo tom

Still i've got one "Extractions". Correctly saying, this cd isn't same as
lp cos some their early material adding at last. you can easily get it from
'cd connection' or 'cd now' on line.

from track 8-10

8. echo wreck
9. twin and earth
10.guinet
11.soarn
12.hu
13.re

suprisingly, 'echo wreck' (i only heared this on "Lonley is an eysore"CD)
can be heared on this cd.
--
# naoyuki fukumoto
# nao-f@st.rim.or.jp
# nao@super.win.or.jp  PXY13026@niftyserve.or.jp
# tokyo national univ. of fine arts & music
# coma graphics - integrated graphic laboratory
# W*3 : Transvision Criteria  http://www.win.or.jp/~nao

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:49:46 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: searching for Dif Juz.....


The Dif Juz CD Extractions is still in print, so you should be able to
order it from any respectable store / mail order / 4AD themselves.

The rest is on out of print vinyl and cassettes. Actually,
Out Of The Trees might still be in print, but I kinda doubt it.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:01:29 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Pink Opaque & Scheer

              Vanderwaal" at Oct 11, 95 01:24:13 pm

"Kent J. Vanderwaal"  wrote:
>
> O.K. what's the track listing of The Pink Opaque?
>

The Spangle Maker, Millimillenary, Wax and Wane (remix), Hitherto,
Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops, From the Flagstones, Aikea-Guinea, Lorelei,
Pepper-Tree, Musette and Drums.

As Jens said, their first US release - the main reason it was released
in the UK was that people were paying ridiculous amounts for imports
because of "Millimillenary" and the remix - a curious transatlantic
reversal of the usual scheme of things.

Bought the Scheer EP yesterday - heavy metal or what?  Iron Maiden were
on "Top of the Pops" the other week, and I thought how weedy and feeble
they sounded - they could do worse than nick Scheer's guitarist.  It's
not the disaster that the Amps single is - "You Said" and "Take You
Anywhere" are quite good songs, but the music!  It conjures up images of
greasy-haired motorbike enthusiasts bobbing their heads in unison and
thinking "pity about the bird doing the vocals, they should get Bruce
Dickinson in and write some lyrics about Satan".  Mind you, Lush's first
release was a "nice try, let's see how they progress" thing, so perhaps
Scheer will see sense, kill their guitarist and make some good records.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 12/10/95
On my walkman this morning : Can - Peel Sessions
Glimmering and vast, out in the tranquil bay.

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:27:08 +0100
From: "'H'y" (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Scheer


Scheer - I would call it *bad* heavy metal.
For my sins I bought Paradise Lost's latest album. Which is fun for half
an hour of loud guitar, wake me up sort of music.

I wonder if Scheer weren't on 4ad there would be any mention of them on
this list.

(Reaching for my revolver)

'H'y

'H' Cambridge

Stockholm Environment Institute at York
University of York.



Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:36:39 -0700
From: girly loop (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: a poem, by anne sexton. actual 4ad content buried inside...


  --  The Fury Of Sunsets  --

  Something
  cold is in the air,
  an aura of ice
  and phlegm.
  All day i've built
  a lifetime and now
  the sun sinks to
  undo it.
  The horizon bleeds
  and sucks it's thumb.
  The little red thumb
  goes out of sight.
  And i wonder about
  this lifetime with myself,
  this dream i'm living.
  I could eat the sky
  like an apple
  but i'd rather
  ask the first star:
  why am i here?
  why do i live in this house?
  who's responsible?
  eh?


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:38:44 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Spiritualized in Houston....


Hey! anyone going to this?? I'm not sure exactly whenit is, next thursday I
think, and it's at the Urban Art Bar, so it shouldn't be too bad...

My normal concert buddy has been seduced by those crazy Michigan people.
I'm telling ya, they're like married people and star trek fans; If you're not
one, they want to convert you immediately....

lisaroo


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:42:14 -0700
From: "PLOCKE.US.ORACLE.COM" (PLOCKE@US.ORACLE.COM)
Subject: esp stuff in sf


for anyone in the san francisco area interested in getting a copy of esp
summer and such, i've got good news :)

yesterday i went into aquarius records on 24th street in noe valley, and they
had copies of the esp summer, esp beetles, new grape time and live esp tapes.
they originally had 2 of each, but i bought 1 of each.

they also had the import 10" vinyl, which i think has been mentioned here.  i
don't have a turntable, so i didn't buy that.

so if you want a copy of esp stuff, but don't want to wait for mail order,
head over to aquarius.  if you haven't been there, it's a pretty cool little
store.

--phil

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:24:31 -0700
From: "Chris.Hanks" (luna@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: FS: ...think i'm getting the hang of it


I have an extra copy of this CD for sale.  US$15 or better offer gets
it.  Will also consider trades for House of Love / Catherine Wheel /
Lush rarities...

ARIOUS ARTISTS : ...think i'm getting the hang of it
   CD : 1995 US 4AD (PRO-CD-7625) (promo, picsleeve)
                Lisa Gerrard : Sanyean
                Air Miami : Dolphin Expressway
                Liquorice : Cheap Cuts
                Heidi Berry : Miracle
                Scheer : Sometimes
                The Wolfgang Press : Christianity (Wicked Man remix)
                Tarnation : The Well
                Kendra Smith : Valley of the Morning Sun
                Red House Painters : Cabezon
                Mojave 3: Long Songs On The Radio
   Notes:
        - The Mojave track is uncredited on disc or sleeve
--
Chris.
luna@teleport.com


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:32:59 -0700
From: Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Lisa Gerrard in Minneapolis (for those going to 10-16 show)


Lisa Gerrard will be doing an in-store at Let It Be Records on Sunday
10-15-95 at 6pm.  Come one, come all and see her!  Oh, Ahh, and be
amazed and best of all, it costs ya nothin'.  She is signing
autographs, so get those Mirror Pool CDs out and lineup.

LEt It Be is on the Nicollet Mall and 10th street in minneapolis.

cheers and salutations,  euthelene

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:55:35 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: AFGTH accomodations


For anyone here going to 'All Fish Go To Heaven'
this weekend in Mesa, AZ, the Motel 6 in Mesa (north)
has rooms for about $35/night. This is probably the best
price you can get.

See you there.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:17:23 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: searching for Dif Juz.....


naoyuki fukumoto writes:
>suprisingly, 'echo wreck' (i only heared this on "Lonley is an eysore"CD)
>can be heared on this cd.

No, the track on LIAE was "Alchemy", which isn't available anywhere else.

All Dif Juz stuff should still be in print from 4AD, except their first
self-released cassette(s) which were always damn near impossible to find.
This has been discussed on the list before and to my knowlege nobody had
the cassettes or knew any way to get ahold of them by fair means or foul.

--Jens (who is still in print too)


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:34:12 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: esp stuff in sf


>they also had the import 10" vinyl, which i think has been mentioned here.  i
>don't have a turntable, so i didn't buy that.

import??!!  do you mean the domestic farrago records thing?  or is there
something else. . .

eric

"I don't care how it works.  I just want the concept."
        -House Majority Leader Dick Armey, when asked how his proposed flat
         tax would work. When asked how much he would pay under the proposed
         tax, he threw out numbers for 10 minutes hoping one of them would
         fly.  None of them did.


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:35:16 -0400
From: st953km8@DUNX1.OCS.DREXEL.EDU
Subject: sorry, but...


i realize i have probably just posted this, but i was wondering if anyone
had the sub address and any pertinent info. thanx
-eric


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:21:20 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: a poem, by anne sexton. actual 4ad content buried insi


Kelli quotes Anne Sexton:
>  The horizon bleeds
>  and sucks its thumb.

I recognize this from some 4AD thing, but what exactly? Don't leave us in
suspense!

--Jens (who enjoyed the poem but still things Ted Hughes is the tops)

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:07:25 -0400
From: Initialboy@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: esp stuff in sf


>>they also had the import 10" vinyl, which i think has been mentioned here.
>>i don't have a turntable, so i didn't buy that.
>
>import??!!  do you mean the domestic farrago records thing?  or is there
>something else. . .

Again, it's the domestic farrago thing.  We just sent them a handful of
copies the other day, and Aquarius just wrote me today to say that they'd
received them.

Spin control... spin control... spin control....  :)

BTW, Eric, did you get yr copy of the 10"?  Just wanting to check that the
Postal Service is doing its job.

Cheers,


hk


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:32:09 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: B C D F


On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Emiel Efdee wrote:

> B:
> The Amps... er... I love the artwork! When is the next Breeders cd being
> released?

Yeah but do they suck anywhere near as much as the track on the sampler?
And is the album really out?

> C:
> Scheer...

And is the album really out?

> D:
> Favorite CT album: Sunburst and Snowblind

Close enough. ;)

> F:
> On the "Rare On Air Volume 2" cd Tanya Donelly sings a version of 'Sweet
> Ride'  and Vic Chesnutt is one of the other performing artists. Beautifull
> sleeve designed by v23 by the way.

Who is Vic Chestnut and is the song worth the price of the album? Sweet
Ride is far and away my favorite Belly song.

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:37:23 -0700
From: Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: CATHERINE WHEEL (sell outs)


You wrote:
>
>        There's two words for a band that puts out incredible music,
gains
>popularity then makes an album with a RUSHesque cover and plenty of
boring
>grunge pop songs........SELL OUT. I can't believe I bought the album.
>
sorry you are so bitter, being a CW fan for a long time, i have come to
appreciate this release as with the others.  i even liked a few of the
cuts right away, the only absolute yuck for me is that damn judy
staring at the sun, I hope it was an eclipse.  bitter and twisted yes,
but then that's life.  euthelene, who loves the angst of it all.

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:22:51 -0400
From: Initialboy@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: esp stuff in sf


>they also had the import 10" vinyl, which i think has been mentioned here.
 i
>don't have a turntable, so i didn't buy that.

Actually, the 10" is very domestic, unless you happen to consider California
and Texas as being two separate, sovereign nations.  :)  And now that I think
about it, the 10" may be considered an import for those residing elsewhere
than these fifty states, but I'm starting to meander here.

And shame on you, Phil, for not owning a turntable!  Ian and Warren are very
disappointed with you!  :)  Actually, the next time you're at Aquarius, ask
Windy to play you their in-store copy of the 10".

Cheers,


hk
[gleefully seducted by the mitten-shaped state]
--
PS.  Gratuituous plug to once again shamelessly hawk our wares....  :)

ESP Summer - ESP Summer (10") $6.50
 Warren Defever (His Name Is Alive, Princess Dragon-Mom) and Ian Masters
 (Spoonfed Hybrid, ex-Pale Saints) take your head for a gentle spin through
 their dazzling electroacoustic universe. Two-sided EP consists of
 transformed sounds from their near-legendary Time Stero cassette and from
 other points unknown. Limited to 1000 copies.

farrago records - box 13148 houston 77219 usa

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:05:22 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: on the wheel


Okay, you're right. I made a bad call cuz I was too excited and I liked
them too much, but the new Catherine Wheel album really is a piece of
shit and a sell out. But more central to how rotten it is, I think, is an
apparent breakdown on the workings of the band. Nothing seems to go
together. People seem to be banging on their instruments and screaming
not in harmony but out of frustration. The album is a complete mess,
which is even more inexcusable given the strength of the few good songs
on the album: Heal, Eat My Dust You Insensitive Fuck, and, sort of, Empty
Head. Oh well. Verve are down the drain, too, and Swervedriver seem to
have locked themselves in the ivory tower and thrown away the key. It's
all over. Fuck it. Buy the Jake Slazenger album and live a little. :)

 e

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:53:47 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Nadja [thislisty movie #2]


There's been some discussion of "The Doom Generation" and its
thislisty-heavy soundtrack. (I saw the preview for it, and it might be
good or it might just be a Gen-X remake of "Natural Born Killers". We'll see.)

But! Last night I saw "Nadja", a low-budget-artsy experimental vampire
movie, and knew I'd made the correct choice when, just after the credits,
MBV's "Soon" came on. Unfortunately they didn't use all 8 minutes of it,
but they did also play portions of MBV's "Lose My Breath", Portishead's
"Strangers" and "Roads", and something by Verve. The background music was
some creepy dark ambient stuff.
  The film itself was, as my friend M@ puts it, "deeply flawed" -- it
being understood that this is a compliment of sorts. It's in black and
white, with some sequences, mostly the vampire action, shot in
PixelVision (a very lo-res digital camera originally marketed as a toy
but adopted by various lo-lo-budget filmmakers.) The acting was uneven
but very effective at points, with Nadja herself (the vampire) very much
the eerie undead babe -- the actress who played her has that same
translucent skin that Peter Murphy has. Similarly, the dialog ranged from
overwrought to hilarious to poetic.
  In general most Goth-type stuff makes me roll my eyes, but the film
took a number of chances and avoided cliches. It's not Great Art, and
it's not a David Lynch film (his name is all over the ads, but he just
executive-produced and has a cameo appearance), but it was good looking,
good sounding and in many ways more interesting than any other film I've
seen this year.

--Jens

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:55:19 -0700
From: nelson@HELIOS.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: a poem, by anne sexton


>  The horizon bleeds
>  and sucks its thumb.

It's one of the songs on the second TMC album

brant


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:20:00 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: A B C D E F G H


Emiel Efdee asks:
>(non fourad) Does anyone have some information about Talk Talk? Do they
>still make music or what... the last album (Laughing Stock) was released
>almost five years ago... and I want more!

They broke up, sadly. The former rhythm section has released a few things
under the name O-Rang (it sounds a wee bit like Talk Talk but I didn't
find it too interesting. There's a track on the excellent "Isolationism"
comp.) I don't know what Mark Hollis or Tim Friese-Green are doing.
Anyone else know?

--Jens

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:41:41 -0700
From: Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: THE THE/GADGETS


You wrote:
>
>Euthelene quoted/wrote:
>
>>>does anyone know the whereabouts of any of the music by "matt
johnson
>>and the
>>>gadgets"?(very rare)...?
>>>
>>don't even think about it.  ask hirschdave.  we had this discussion a
>>long time ago so maybe some people will throw this back in yer face,
>>but people on infected are pretty cool.  anyhow, matt had a very very
>>tiny role in prodcuing the gadgets, i believe and they used his name
>>once soul mining did some business.  so basically it is a shame and
>>sellers try to capitolize on it.  but really, ask hirschdave, he
knows
>>just about everything, you can quote me.
>
>I don't know who this hirschdave type is, but let me just say that the
first
>two Gadgets LPs, on Final Solution ('Gadetree' and 'Love, Curiosity,
>Freckles & Doubt', both from 1980!!!!!) are really GREAT!! It wasn't
until
>The Gadgets 'Blue Album' (on Glass), from 1983, that things started to
smell
>bad.
>
>How do I long for the good old days, before the French (ca. 1989) and
later
>on you Americans (ca. 1991) turned 4AD into a religion and 4AD artists
into
>gods....
>
>Yours,
>
>Screwdave
>
>++++++++++++
>brink2@xs4all.nl
>++++++++++++
>
my, such a bitter, twisted and harsh response.  I am sick of UKers
blasting people in the states.  This has become way too common on this
list and several others I am on, my tolerance is seeping away.  Seems
to me that many people have their own vices, American or not.  So quit
point your damned fingers all the time across the seas, it might come
back at you...euthelene ppp and p

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:04:45 CST
From: thad.engeling@CCQM.NATINST.COM
Subject: Re[2]: a poem, by anne sexton. actual 4ad content buried ins


> Kelli quotes Anne Sexton:
> >  The horizon bleeds
> >  and sucks its thumb.

> I recognize this from some 4AD thing, but what exactly? Don't leave us in
> suspense!

That would be the title of track #22 off Filigree & Shadow
by This Mortal Coil.
What do I win? :-)

later on,
Thad
"This isn't death, this is just a textural event"

and speaking of death.
I just finished litening to Great Death I by Brighter Death Now.
The track listing is as follows:
Great Death I
Evisceration
Certified Dead
Gore
Death Appeal
Moribund
Laudate Dominum I  (to close things on a lighter note :-)

You've just gotta love them happy CMI folks. :-)

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:56:05 -0400
From: Cath Carroll (FAC179@AOL.COM)
Subject: Dif Juz and the Bleeding Horizons


Jens wrote:

>>No, the track on LIAE was "Alchemy", which isn't available anywhere else.<<

Nope it was "No Motion".

Does anyone know if Dif Juz still exists? And does anyone know if IPR is
still planning to release some of their stuff? And does anyone know if the
non-4AD Dif Juz is still in print? How to get a hold of it?

Bye Bye,

Cath
(mail the list not me)


P.S. Oh, and that Anne Sexton thing, TMC's "Filigree and Shadow" LP with the
track "The Horizon Bleeds And Sucks Its Thumb".

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:47:55 -0700
From: "Hello... NEWMAN!" (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: a poem, by anne sexton. actual 4ad content buried insi


> Kelli quotes Anne Sexton:
>>  The horizon bleeds
>>  and sucks its thumb.

>I recognize this from some 4AD thing, but what exactly? Don't leave us in
>suspense!

        It's a song from TMC's "Filigree & Shadow". That album has so many
songs, they get lost in the morass, so I can understand why you didn't
remember where it came from.

= "Wake up, see    \ If there's no God, why      + "Where unadmired beings =
= the sun...what's / are there atheists?         + dread the due changes   =
= done is done..." \  -variation on St. Anselm's + ahead..."               =
=  -Ride: "Today"  /   Ontological Proof         +  -Red House Painters    =


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:13:38 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: lorelei


Has anyone heard the new Lorelei album yet?  I believe it's out now and
I plan on buying it next time I have the money.  Unless they have totally
changed directions musically, this should be something to be excited about.

By the way, last night, while unsuccessfully trying to buy a medicine
ticked at tower (they close at midnight but ticmaster closes at 10), I
noticed that all of tower's domestic cd singles are SUPER CHEAP!  They
are all either 2.99 or 3.99.  I asked one of the employees about it and
he said it was a tower experiment.  They sell better at the lower price,
but so far not enough better.  This experiment will likely end around
Christmas, so buy them soon if there's anything you want domestic.

As I was exiting the store, I glanced at Twinlights and its 9.99
pricetag and thought "if only that were in the cd single section."  $1
per minute simply is not a fair deal.  Just ask MCI.

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:40:48 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: THE THE/GADGETS


uthelene ranted thus:
>my, such a bitter, twisted and harsh response.  I am sick of UKers
>blasting people in the states.

Last I heard, the Netherlands were not part of the United Kingdom, so
your unprovoked flame against  is misguided. Moreover,
you totally missed his joke. Have you considered investing in a sarcasm
detector? Or :) should we :) all just start festooning :) our postings
with smileys :) ?

Besides, there are so many awful things about the US, and we spend plenty
of our own time grousing about them. Why shouldn't we let the limeys (or
hollandaises) join the fun?

--Jens <=8^O-


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:25:31 -0700
From: girly loop (kelli@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: a poem, by anne sexton. actual 4ad content buried insi


> >  The horizon bleeds
> >  and sucks its thumb.
>
> I recognize this from some 4AD thing, but what exactly? Don't leave us in
> suspense!

  think filigree & shadow....

  me thinks mr. watts-russell is a fond admirer of anne's...which, despite
  the recent lackluster signings {ok, tarnation aren't lackluster, but
  these are certainly not the glory days of 4ad}, makes me like and respect
  the big guy still.

  "acid, bitter and sad" is made up entirely of anne sexton quotes from
  various poems {these have been posted before}. in fact, in reading the
  other night, i stumbled across a poem with another TMC connection...
  rather fitting, TMC and anne sexton. they go together so very well...



  consider the lilies,
  *k*

  ...gonna fly so far, gonna kiss that star...

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:34:33 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: autechre, anvil vapre, yes yes yes


I have to review this even before I finish listening to it, in honor of
nothing else being quite great enough to motivate me to hook my cheapo
lil cd player into my big speakers that have no cd player. I did find a
way and am glad. Probably the whole block is miffed at me but oh well.
Autechre have been many many good things, but never until now have I
listened to an Autechre record and thought, THIS FUCKIN ROCKS. Well this
does. It totally kicks ass, better than Garbage or even Chatter. It's
awesome and fab and hip and it rules and the art once more is top of the
line. This has been reviewed a thousand times already so I won't go into
those details, but I wanted to say what I said here because I didn't
think that point had really been made, plus no one's said much about it
on 4ad-l.

Basscad,ep? Or Incunabula, for that matter. I am mainly interested in how
faithfully the art & packaging were carried over.

muy danke,

e

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:44:37 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Nadja [thislisty movie #2]


 It's not Great Art, and
>it's not a David Lynch film (his name is all over the ads, but he just
>executive-produced and has a cameo appearance),

thank you for clearing this up for me! i have been curious about this
since someone mentioned the preview about a month ago! sounds like it
is time to make a trip to the Ritz anyway, though... maybe just to hear
the backround music:)

                        -robert.


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:47:30 -0400
From: Bairmiami@AOL.COM
Subject: Germano/Lush/CT auction update


<----AUCTION ENDS OCT. 17---->
<----AUCTION ENDS OCT. 17---->
<----AUCTION ENDS OCT. 17---->

The high bids so far...

Lisa Germano, "Inconsiderate Bitch" EP-->$15
--this disc is out-of-print; digipak in super condition

Lush, "For Love" EP-->$20
Astronaut
--Out-of-print; tri-fold digipak in super condition

Cocteau Twins interview picture CD-->$30
--A 40+ minute interview with the Twins; made in England; ltd. ed. of 1500;
catalog #ABCD010 "The Conversation Disc Series" (not by 4AD)
--Cover has picture of band; CD has color picture of Liz's face

send all bids to bairmiami@aol.com

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:13:13 -0400
From: Renee Castro (Rennyok@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: The Amps


I've heard the whole album and in my opinion it is the best ablum of it's
kind put out all year. Apart from the fact that the singer is the same,  it
didn't remind me of The Breeders at all. I had heard that Ivo's main reason
for loving it so much was in fact the rawness of it all and not the over
production.  I bet it's going to be one of those albums that because it does
go againt the norm of what everybody is used to, that everybody will hate it.
I really hope a handful of people will be able to put aside any expectations
of past work and listen to it like something new. It really is great.


Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 04:41:55 +0100
From: "Hugh O'Brien" (hugh@INTERNET-EIREANN.IE)
Subject: 4AD VIDS/BROTHERS QUAY


        just a few snippets I picked which somebody may be
        interested in:
        4ad vids - 4ad compiliation of rare promo videos
                   SAE: david, 35 tichborne way, rowner,
                        gosport, hants, PO13 OBH (england)
        brothers - Institute Benjamenta
                   Inspired by the texts of the swiss writer
                   Robert Walser(a schizophrenic praised by
                   Kafka who spent the last two decades of his
                   life in an asylum), this uncanny mix of dream
                   myth, fairy tale, and surreal fantasia explores
                   the labrynthine corridors of a hermetic teaching
                   institute from the point of view of its last
                   inmate.
        dcd link - Peter Ulrich, percussionist with DCD released
                   a solo single "Taqaharu's Leaving"(Corner Stone
                   Records 12" only PTD 001) back in 1990.
        lowlife  - Lowlife, featuring former Cocteau Twin Will
                   Heggie, have a new lp out on Anoise Annoys entitled
                   "Gush". Was "Ramafied" a track from them back
                   in the 80's?

        Also, got the "Mirror Pool" and was disappointed by the fact that
        it was content to sit in the background while Tarnation's lp made
        me sit up and listen instantly. I prefer making compilations of
        songs to sleep to such as "Asleep" by the Smiths, "Lucy" - Nick
        Cave, "Solid Air" - John Martyn or some tracks off the new live
        Tindersticks lp.      Still lurking ;)


 Hugh O'Brien            hugh@internet-eireann.ie
"Music has to be sound, otherwise you are lost.Sound
goes into the inner part of the human soul"-Iannis Xenakis

Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:24:38 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: Amps


does anyone know if the UK Tipp City ep is 12" only? that's all they
have at my local import shop. Is it also on cd, I hope?

thanks
Mike


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