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Subject: Phoenix record stores
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:18:39 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: albums?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:33:51 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.COM)
Subject: PRIVATELY, not to the list!
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:16:28 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: DCD platinum?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:04:21 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Quit It!
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:11:04 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: bonnie and clyde, apology
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:15:48 -0600
From: Chadwick Dorton (cdorton@SLCPL.SLCPL.LIB.UT.US)
Subject: Re: DCD platinum?
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:22:30 -0400
From: "Neil G." (NEILG@AURUM.CHEM.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: my two bits for the month.....
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:57:41 -0400
From: GrimaceSCU@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Seeking Big Hat and Tel Basta
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:50:07 +0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:27:27 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: my two bits for the month.....
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:35:53 -0700
From: girly loop (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: luminous Spiritualized stuff/Mojave/misc ramblings
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 06:29:27 -0400
From: Larry Koch (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Whatever happened to the EoST?
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 04:13:27 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: CW/Mojave/Slowdive
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:10:33 -0400
From: Larry Koch (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: 4AD 10" series/NTSC-PAL
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:42:52 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to the EoST?
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:55:19 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: DCD do 'Album'
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:26:18 BST
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: mojave3
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:08:30 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: mojave3
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:28:14 -0400
From: Jay Senese (JaySenese@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Axis...4AD...and The Doom Generation
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:37:46 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:46:28 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: FS: THE THE 7"
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 06:52:07 -0700
From: Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Album / Artists
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:01:06 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:35:00 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: cocteau twins on mtv europe
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:20:30 +0100
From: jack huynh (jhuy@GARNET.BERKELY.EDU)
Subject: Re: i'm the elephant you're the mouse
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:26:06 CST
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:24:13 CDT
From: "Kent J. Vanderwaal" (kjv@MTI.CDC.COM)
Subject: Re: luminous Spiritualized stuff/Mojave/misc ramblings
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:05:02 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Red Hot + Bothered
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:16:24 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: CT on MTV Europe (UK readers only)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:06:33 -0700
From: Neil Impelluso (kneel95@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: CATHERINE WHEEL (sell outs)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:40:37 EDT
From: redacted (unknown@unknown)
Subject: Re: THE THE/GADGETS
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:56:53 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:23:33 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:05:59 -0700
From: "Hello... NEWMAN!" (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins on mtv europe
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:28:34 EDT
From: redacted (unknown@unknown)
Subject: Re: luminous Spiritualized stuff/Mojave/misc ramblings
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:30:55 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Whatever happenend to rarities II?? :(
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:17:39 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: Red Hot + Bothered
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:53:14 -0700
From: Laurence Roberts RD (bellahs!newhall!lroberts@UUNET.UU.NET)
Subject: INTERGALACTIC Pre-Order INFO 10/6
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:29:25 0800
From: aaron thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins on mtv europe
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:06:39 EST
From: "John T. Robicheau" (ROBICHEAU@DRUGINFONET.PHARM-EPID.PITT.EDU)
Subject: Red House Painters: "Moments" chords
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:25:46 -0700
From: "Hello... NEWMAN!" (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: THE THE/GADGETS
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:23:20 -0700
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:15:57 -0700
From: Laurence Roberts RD (bellahs!newhall!lroberts@UUNET.UU.NET)
Subject: A B C D E F G H
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:50:42 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins on mtv europe
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:43:28 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins on mtv europe
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 21:25:35 -0400
From: "tOM." (tom@BEAVIS.IRESEARCH.COM)
Subject: searching for Dif Juz.....
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 21:30:52 -0400
From: "tOM." (tom@BEAVIS.IRESEARCH.COM)
Subject: Re: CATHERINE WHEEL (sell outs)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:28:11 -0400
From: Joey (jbriante@UOGUELPH.CA)

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:18:39 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Phoenix record stores


For those of you going to AFGTH this weekend in Phoenix,
there are some good record stores to check out:

Stinkweeds
just down the street from the festival on W. Baseline in Mesa.
Basically, if you're on the 4ad-l list, you'd like this store.
Go there. Get their 'Milkbone' review zine. E-mail
bcapps@primenet.com for more info.

Zia Records
a ways from Stinkweeds, toward Phoenix proper. I was just there
and they have a ton of used CDs and new CDs at pretty reasonable
prices. Eg. Souvlaki new for $9.99, most used CDs $7.99 or $6.99.
I also saw a bunch of Bedazzled stuff, a first ed. copy of Thurtene,
that 'facing the wrong way' 4AD promo CD for an astounding $25,
and Stereolab's 'Amorphous Body Study Center' CD for $29 (sheesh!
I want it, but not THAT MUCH!) [For that guy who contacted me regarding
Virginia Astley-- they have a used copy of 'Hope in a Darkened Heart'
for $6.99.] I may be going back there this weekend, so if any of this
sounds interesting to you, go ahead and give me a shopping list,
and I'll see what I can do.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:33:51 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.COM)
Subject: Re: albums?


----- Begin Included Message -----

someone on this list said the american souvlaki is not an album because of
the three bonus tracks.  but, if i dub tracks one through ten, do i not
have a dub of an album (there being no difference between the british
souvlaki and tracks one through ten on the american)?  if i do not have a
dub of the album, how am it to distinguish a tape with the british souvlaki
from a tape of tracks one through ten of the american?

----- End Included Message -----

i think what this person was implying is that slowdive ruined the feel of
'souvlaki' as an album by adding the extra tracks; original poster, correct me
if i'm wrong.  for me, the additional tracks seemed out of place included on
the american version and disrupted the whole feel of the album.  though this
does not always bother me, i can't imagine the cure's disintigration without
homesick and, i think, last dance.

alan


Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:16:28 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: PRIVATELY, not to the list!


section25@ids.net wrote:

> >remember kids...only email me PRIVATELY, not to the list!


Warren Harris wrote:

> Oh, sorry, I'm interested in the Liquorice "Cheap Cuts" 5 song promo CD
> too. Thanks.


Extra lashes for you.


e

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:04:21 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: DCD platinum?


On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Martin Wagner wrote:

> Someone on the David Sylvian list is claiming that DCD's Into the
> Labyrinth went platinum according to Billboard, which I find frankly
> incredible. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Deny. I am pretty sure it has sold about 175,000 copies, if that. I could
be wrong...but only in theory; it never actually happens. :)

 e

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:11:04 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Quit It!


On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Phil Stout wrote:

> Another semantics issue again. We all really live in hate of each other don't
> we. All ready to pounce at the slightest thing. Why can't we all just move on
> and talk about things that really matter on this list (like how crap Scheer
> are and the like).

> If the vein on your forehead is really throbbing that much, seek counseling
> and spare us all the wasted bandwidth. That will allow smug, pompous elitists
> like myself to spare YOU this wasted bandwidth.

And you are..?

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:15:48 -0600
From: Chadwick Dorton (cdorton@SLCPL.SLCPL.LIB.UT.US)
Subject: Re: bonnie and clyde, apology


On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, David Mccallum wrote:

>         Yes, it is done as a
duet with Dean Wareham and the female vocalist
> from Stereolab (whose name changes and escapes me at the moment.)
>
>

That would be Laetitia Sadier, whose name doesnt change, but sometimes
appears as Seaya which is the nickname for the French name Laetitia.

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:22:30 -0400
From: "Neil G." (NEILG@AURUM.CHEM.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: Re: DCD platinum?


>On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Martin Wagner wrote:
>
>> Someone on the David Sylvian list is claiming that DCD's Into the
>> Labyrinth went platinum according to Billboard, which I find frankly
>> incredible. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

then e wrote:

>Deny. I am pretty sure it has sold about 175,000 copies, if that. I could
>be wrong...but only in theory; it never actually happens. :)

I cannot remember where I read it, probably NME or MM, but at the
beginning of the year the total was about 500 000!  I remember
wanting to post the article to the list, but never got around to it
due to laziness.

    Neil


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:57:41 -0400
From: GrimaceSCU@AOL.COM
Subject: my two bits for the month.....


Ivo Lorelei-----> next time you see Ivo, just say "hi" he's quite a
conversational kid.  Don't kiss his ass or something dumb like that because
he gets it all the time.  Yeah, he's brought us a lot of great music, but
he's still a normal kid so don't be wishy-washy.  If you must, worship him
from afar and pretend you never heard of him to his face.  That's my advice
for the month.  if you've got any other problems you need help with just drop
me a line. ha ha.

4AD 10" Series--->according to lil' paula frazer, Tarnation and many other
lovely 4AD bands are going to be recording a 10" apiece and they'll be
released monthly for 8 to 12 months.  Apparently she's also been asked to
record a cover version of some song that I forgot the name of for Ivo's next
project.

Twinlights---> I like it. This victory coupled with Need Fire says the new
Cocteaus should be delicious. mmm...grapes.

Favorite CT--->Victorialand. It gives me warm fuzzys.  I've also got a Box
Set of mix tapes that will put all of yours to shame.  I went ballistic and
matched tempos and faded things in and out and the likes.  quite lovely.

Reasons to get HNIAs Man on the Silver Mountain-->because those tracks
weren't on the import versions and having the import and then having to buy
the domestic for those few tracks would really suck.  Promotional Items do
have their merits on occasion.

really good offer for kids on both sides of the pond---> just got access to a
pretty good quality PAL (European) ----> NTSC (North American) video
conversion set up.  If anybody has access to any videos that they would like
to offer to the kids on the other side of the pond, I can transfer them and
for the cost of a tape and postage I can dub them off for kids.  Which means
that if anybody has a friend overseas who were telling you that they taped a
wonderful (music related) broadcast or they have a wonderful live video that
you would love to see, but are unable to justify spending a fortune to dub
over.....just ask me, I'm always looking to expand my collection so it's a
mutual backscratching thing.  keep it in mind it's worth a shot.  I've got a
fair amount of free time to do it for a while too.

okay i'm in a hurry.
bu-bye
David


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:50:07 +0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Seeking Big Hat and Tel Basta


>Unfortunately, with the exception of these two releases, their other work
>appears to be out-of-print, unavailable locally, on the net, or by
>mail-order.  If anyone out there can help me find copies of the following
>releases, I'd be most appreciative:
>
>Big Hat - Shimmer
>          Inamorata
>          Taqueria del Muerte

Taqueria del Muerte was never available anywhere but through the band
themselves.  My guess is that the best bet would be to contact them at 5602
North Ridge, Chicago, IL 60660.  I don't know if that address applies
anymore.

Preston's housemate, Sanz, used to be on this list.  If you promise to be
good and not bug her too much i'll give you the e-mail address.  Shhh!
Don't tell anyone where you got it.  Sanz Lashley  I
don't know if it's still any good or if they have any CD's now that they've
been defunct for some time.  And gosh, i sure miss their frequent and
legendary live shows.

-cz


___<<<<<<<<<*********ckemnitz@students.wisc.edu********>>>>>>>>>___

"Names are but Noise and Smoke, obscuring Heavenly Light."    -Johann Goethe

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:27:27 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM

              an Ear" at Oct 10, 95 04:31:11 pm

Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear  wrote:
[Remixed "Wax and Wane"]
>
> If it was ANYONE, it would have been either the band or Ivo. Maybe
> back in 1982 or maybe early 1983 the band would have let someone else
> do it, but I doubt anyone but THEY would have remixed "Wax and Wane"
> in 1985. By that time, the band were pretty much in control of most
> of what they did in the studio.  Ivo could have done it though, since
> he was co-producer when "Wax and Wane" was originally recorded.

Both "Garlands" and "The Pink Opaque" have Ivo and the Twins credited
with producing that song.  I can't quite remember why I think this, but
I was under the impression that Ivo had remixed it with no involvement
from the band.  I do clearly remember that Robin dismissed TPO as "a
K-tel album for the Yanks", a compilation of early stuff that Americans
probably wouldn't have heard before, but which British fans shouldn't be
too interested in (despite the fact that "Millimillenary" was only
previously available on a tape).  This was during the period when he
would regularly slag off "Treasure", their most recent album and
most people's favourite, so I'd take those comments with a pinch of
salt.

>
> Does anyone else agree with me that the version of "Aikea-Guinea"
> on The Pink Opaque sounds fuller and more clear than the original?
>

Sounds identical to me - I fished out TPO and the boxed singles last
night specifically to make this comparison, and ended up listening to
most of the EPs.  Thanks!

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Andrew Norman                       Senior Computer Officer
nja@le.ac.uk                        Engineering Department
Tel. (0116 252) 2563                University of Leicester
                                    Leicester LE1 7RH


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:35:53 -0700
From: girly loop (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: my two bits for the month.....


> 4AD 10" Series--->according to lil' paula frazer, Tarnation and many other
> lovely 4AD bands are going to be recording a 10" apiece and they'll be
> released monthly for 8 to 12 months.  Apparently she's also been asked to
> record a cover version of some song that I forgot the name of for Ivo's next
> project.

  this won't be some sort of weird subscriber-only series, will it? i doubt
  it, but i'm asking just to be 100% sure...

> Reasons to get HNIAs Man on the Silver Mountain-->because those tracks
> weren't on the import versions and having the import and then having to buy
> the domestic for those few tracks would really suck.  Promotional Items do
> have their merits on occasion.

  what songs aren't on the imports? all the silver mountain songs are on the
  import versions...


  starry skies past mist and steam,
  * k-j *


  ...make friends with the couch...

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 06:29:27 -0400
From: Larry Koch (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: luminous Spiritualized stuff/Mojave/misc ramblings


>I have seen the Spiritualized "glow in the dark" CD for $39.  Personally I
>don't think it's worth that much, but seeing as how it is out of print should
>I pick this copy up?  (maybe for someone else?)

I think it was around $39 or $40 when it first came out, so I doubt you're
going to get a better price. I would say that if you like _Pure Phase_ to
begin with, get the fluorescent edition if you really want it

>so it is kind of like that "fucked up inside" thingy!
What is the track listing for that - can someone tell me please?

[glowinthedarktshirts]
>goodie! do you remember how much they were? just so i bring enough
>money. sorry to bother you with stupid question such as this.

's alright...I didn't actually look at the prices but I imagine they must
have been in the $25-30 (Canadian, that is) range, so probably a bit less in
the US

>she offers me Tibetan tea on a flower tray [Roy Harper]

BTW, did you know that Tibetan tea is made with yak butter and apparently
tastes pretty rancid?

>eric, who just had to buy another copy of Souvlaki b/c his had a skip :(

Arghh, I hate it when that happens, esp. if the CD is kinda rare. My first
copy of _Victorialand_ had a skip *when I bought it* and so CT were playing
the same note for 20 mins or so while I was in another room before I noticed...

>>>11. Sinead O'Connor - Ode to Billy Joe

She wrote a song for the guy in Green Day?! Jeez Louise ;)

>I'm assuming Mojave3 are using the same silent "3".

In that case it would be like the original silent "2" in Luna2, although
that didn't stop assorted clueless veejay types from calling them "Luna
Two", so perhaps we can expect the same with Mojave (maybe they too will get
to drop the numeral eventually)

[Doom Generation sndtrk]
>all previously
>released tracks and remixes, I think.

I had heard that the Slowdive track (as well as the one they wrote for some
indie film called I am the Elephant and You are the Mouse or something like
that) was completely new, though.

>"Nice one Cyril, nice one son, nice one Cyril,
>let's have another one"

Substitute "Charlie" for "Cyril" and you get what crowds shouted at Prince
Charles after his first son was born...

Larry

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 04:13:27 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Whatever happened to the EoST?


The Ecstacy of Saint Theresa. Are they still around? What are they doing?
I've been listening to some Bill Laswell / Tetsu Inoue stuff lately and
it makes me think of Free-D. What was the remix disc like, and did they
release anything after it? The album was a pretty damned original piece
of work with a totally unique flavor. Wish I could find my copy. :(

In general, beware of Laswell; approach him with extreme caution--but
both Cymatic Scan and Second Nature are nice in that EoSTish way, if you
ever get the urge.


 elixenie


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:10:33 -0400
From: Larry Koch (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: CW/Mojave/Slowdive


[Catherine Wheel]
>some pretty hard bass lines, agressive
>guitar, alternate passages between mellow and brain blowing.

Sounds like a recipe for a grunge, or at least 80% of rock...the alternate
passages bit is just another way of describing the grunge loud-quiet-loud
trick. My explanation for CW having rocked out is that Rob Dickinson took
his cousin Bruce's advice (whatever that was) too seriously.

>Grunge was coined to
>describe Nirvana and the Seattle scene

Grunge was coined by Mudhoney, actually, to describe themselves and the Melvins

>What about "Die Mojave Gruppe"?

Well, to non-German speakers, it would look uncomfortably like "Die, Mojave,
Die!" I don't mind the 3 as long as it's silent. Of course, they could have
come up with a completely new name (a better solution) but I suppose there
wasn't time for that.

>"holding our breath" ep, which i just got in the
>mail.  it's no good compared to "slowdive" and "morningrise."

Why does everyone bag on this EP? I think it's great. "Albatross" is
brilliant. I, on the other hand, don't care much for "Morningrise" (the song)

>sounds like
>outtakes from just for a day,

No...Just 4AD sounds a lot cleaner - Holding Our Breath has a lot of nice
*murky* reverb

>which i didn't think was all that great.

I agree with that

>slowdive ruined the feel of
>'souvlaki' as an album by adding the extra tracks;

No, SBK (their American record company) ruined it. Slowdive didn't want the
5Ep tracks added because they didn't fit with the material on the album, but
SBK went right ahead and did it. That's why the domestic version came out so
much later

Larry

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:42:52 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: 4AD 10" series/NTSC-PAL


David wrote:

>4AD 10" Series--->according to lil' paula frazer, Tarnation and many other
>lovely 4AD bands are going to be recording a 10" apiece and they'll be
>released monthly for 8 to 12 months.  Apparently she's also been asked to
>record a cover version of some song that I forgot the name of for Ivo's next
>project.

I asked Cliff, at 4AD UK, about this series a few weeks ago, and he told me
that "there will be a 10" series some day, but with so many releases on the
schedule it won't be for a while".


David wrote:

>really good offer for kids on both sides of the pond---> just got access to a
>pretty good quality PAL (European) ----> NTSC (North American) video
>conversion set up.  If anybody has access to any videos that they would like
>to offer to the kids on the other side of the pond, I can transfer them and
>for the cost of a tape and postage I can dub them off for kids.

Thanks for the offer, but on this side of the pond (Europe), almost all new
VCR's have both PAL and NTSC playback. Very handy. No expensive conversion
needed.

Frank

++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:55:19 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to the EoST?

              meek" at Oct 11, 95 04:13:27 am

einexile the meek  wrote:
>
> The Ecstacy of Saint Theresa. Are they still around? What are they doing?
> I've been listening to some Bill Laswell / Tetsu Inoue stuff lately and
> it makes me think of Free-D. What was the remix disc like, and did they
> release anything after it? The album was a pretty damned original piece
> of work with a totally unique flavor. Wish I could find my copy. :(

Oddly enough, I looked at the three EoST CDs sitting on the shelf last
night, and wondered the same thing.  I dimly remember the recording of a
new album being mentioned when the remix EP came out, or perhaps that
was wishful thinking - it must have been more than a year ago, now.  The
remix EP is pretty good - Bandulu do their usual rhythmic tribal
bollocks, but there's a good Disco Inferno mix on there.  Haven't
listened to EoST for ages - I must dust the poor things off and give
them a spin.  They seemed to be poised to do some very interesting stuff,
mixing ambient techno with real instruments, and coming from an indie
rock background like Seefeel, but they faded away just as they might
have done something great.

Today's NME gives the thumbs up to the Amps single (ha!), and says that
Mojave Drei have their new album out next Monday.


--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 11/10/95
On my walkman this morning : Pulp - Intro
Gleams and is gone; the cliffs of England stand,


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:26:18 BST
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: DCD do 'Album'

              

mesocyclone wrote:

>  Well, this is my opinion.  I've worked in record stores for over three
>years now, and I, along with all the people I've worked with, have always
>called greatest hits and best of, and other compilations, "albums".  We
>may call it a compilation album, but we still call it an album.

I don't really want to get involved in this debate but I'm feeling a bit
sorry for mesocyclone (true!) what with everyone jumping on him/her.  My
Collins English dictionary says "album.  One or more long playing records
released as a single item".

I'm with mesocyclone on this one!!

Simon Hughes


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:08:30 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: mojave3


yep, mojave3 lp appears in a couple of ads in the back of the nme as well
this week. and here's something i stole from alt.music.4ad which some of
you might not've seen:

>
>I picked up a review cassette of the Mojave release today.  All songs by
>Neil Halstead.  Produced by Mojave and Paul Tipler.  Tracks:
>   "Love Songs on the Radio" (5:47)
>   "Sarah" (3:44)
>   "Tomorrow's Taken" (5:36)
>   "Candle Song #3" (5.25)
>   "You're Beautiful" (3:04)
>   "Where is the Love" (4:35)
>   "After All" (3:30)
>   "Pictures" (4:19)
>   "Mercy" (4:55)
>
>Pretty short album!  Jay

and

> From: jaysenese@aol.com (JaySenese)
> Newsgroups: alt.music.4ad
> Subject: Mojave "Ask Me Tomorrow": More
> Date: 10 Oct 1995 08:53:30 -0400

>OK, now I've had a chance to listen to this, and its not half bad. First
>track very reminiscent of Julee Cruise/Angelo Badalamenti, with plucked
>guitars, heavily echoed female vocals.  Later tracks follow similar >style with
quiet drums added and joint male/female vocals.  I =
think of >listening to this music as a kind of guilty pleasure:  as much as I >e
joy it, I can't help but feel that almost any group=
 of >musicians/singers could make music this pretty, provided they played >slow 
nough and laid enough echos onto the vocals.  Certa=
inly an >improvement over the icky Tarnation, though.  Reference point for >affi
Sea Stories (2 >US CDs several years ago) due to vocals.  Jay

(my server doesn't carry alt.music.4ad but i use the mercury news server
instead.)

big, full page amps ad in both papers too, must've cost them quite a bit.
still, i guess they didn't use up the budget on studio time...

um, perhaps i'll send this to the right place this time...
--
andyx
(a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)
btw i don't mind the '3' it's easier than having to remember to pronounce
the 'j' as an 'h'

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:28:14 -0400
From: Jay Senese (JaySenese@AOL.COM) picked up my copy of Taqueria at Tower Records in Pasadena. Jay

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:37:46 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Axis...4AD...and The Doom Generation


Which Cocteau Twins?

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:46:28 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


The Aikea-Guinea maybe more clear due to remastering, but Wax and Wane
was remixed by the band and they say so on the Interview Picture disc.
They mention the Pink Opaque and say "Could that really be us?" after
hearing the tapes.  They created The Pink Opaque in about a week.

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 06:52:07 -0700
From: Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: FS: THE THE 7"


You wrote:
>
>does anyone know the whereabouts of any of the music by "matt johnson
and the
>gadgets"?(very rare)...?
>
don't even think about it.  ask hirschdave.  we had this discussion a
long time ago so maybe some people will throw this back in yer face,
but people on infected are pretty cool.  anyhow, matt had a very very
tiny role in prodcuing the gadgets, i believe and they used his name
once soul mining did some business.  so basically it is a shame and
sellers try to capitolize on it.  but really, ask hirschdave, he knows
just about everything, you can quote me.

cheers, euthelene


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:01:06 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Album / Artists


 > My
>Collins English dictionary says "album.  One or more long playing records
>released as a single item".

But of course. This is how artists signed to record co.s get out of tedious
mega album contracts. Simply release a live album (one that was kicking
around in the cellar for years), a greatest hits album, and  a 12" remix album.
Suddenly you have completed three of your four LP contract. Hell - release
a B-sides album, and bob's your Aunty. Then do the fans the ultimate favour.
Once they've bought the lot, release them all in a limited (say 10 million) box
set with crappo artwork and retire in some island resort. Thank you.

The Chambers Cambridge Dictionary defines cynic as:
"dog-like, snarling, disinclined to recognise or believe in goodness
or selflessness." Fortunately this is not me.......
Chris the eternal optimist.

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:35:00 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


I, for one, consider it a greatest-hits, but also that a greatest hits
is an album.  The Pink Opaque sounds like a major work.  All the
tracks seem coherently placed, one track after another.  It's like
Catching Up With Depeche Mode.

Since this is a minority opinion, I would say then that Four-Calender
Cafe is my favorite album.  On my CD player, on repeat track, as I
write this: Oil of Angels

What do you think of creating a listserv at cocteau-twins@cactus.org
and moving over there?  How many people have joined the present list
already?

Also, the good folks at Tower say that Twinlights sold 23 copies in
eleven days, 16 the first week, and 7 the last week( 16.9.95 to
7.10.95).  25 were sold all together, but 2 were returned.  They sold
out, which they hadn't expected.  A big single sells 80 copies in a
week, I am told, but 17 is considered good for bands like the Cocteau
Twins, who recieve almost no air play.  It would seem that this is a
successful single for them.

Hopefully they are getting a big chunk of that domestic money :-) .

Ciao!


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:20:30 +0100
From: jack huynh (jhuy@GARNET.BERKELY.EDU)
Subject: cocteau twins on mtv europe


Hi Everyone,

Some quick news. Cocteau twins suppose to appear on mtv europe tomorrow
evening at 9pm. acoustic show with two or three songs being played.

jack
jack b huynh 

Cocteau Twins 


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:26:06 CST
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: i'm the elephant you're the mouse


>I had heard that the Slowdive track (as well as the one they wrote for some
>indie film called I am the Elephant and You are the Mouse or something like
>that) was completely new, though.

what is the word on the elephant thing?  surely there must be a film
student out there somewhere that knows what the scoop is.  if i had the name
of the producer, i'd even try to give a call to get some info.  does anyone
have any info at all on this elusive beast?

eric

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:24:13 CDT
From: "Kent J. Vanderwaal" (kjv@MTI.CDC.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM

              "Hello... NEWMAN!" at Oct 11, 95 10:05 am

>
> > I, for one, consider it a greatest-hits, but also that a greatest hits
> > is an album.  The Pink Opaque sounds like a major work.  All the
> > tracks seem coherently placed, one track after another.  It's like
> > Catching Up With Depeche Mode.

O.K. what's the track listing of The Pink Opaque?

My favorite CT album is the box set! ;-b . ..


kent
kjv@mti.cdc.com
fuel to the fire

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:05:02 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: luminous Spiritualized stuff/Mojave/misc ramblings


>
> I had heard that the Slowdive track (as well as the one they wrote for some
> indie film called I am the Elephant and You are the Mouse or something like
> that) was completely new, though.

Back when slowdive was still a creation band (and still a band, for that
matter) the slowdive web page mentioned both films.  If i remember
correctly, it sounded like slowdive was going to do the whole soundtrack (!)
for "elephand & mouse" sometime late this year.  I haven't heard anything
about it since.  The slowdive page is still there, by the way.  But the
creation link no longer exists, and most of the links don't go anywhere.
Even neil's west coast diary is gone!  how sad.

Aaron

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:16:24 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: Red Hot + Bothered


I don't this has ben mentioned yet, but on the new Red Hot + Bothered
compilation there are non-album tracks by Lisa Germano and Liquorice.
Also Kim and Kelley Deal sing back-up and play a few instuments on a
song by Freedom Cruise (basically Guided By Voices). The Lisa Germano
track is "the mirror is gone" and can oterhwise onyl be found (as far
as I know) on the Cry Wolf promo. As for the Licorice, the track is
Little League. I don't know if it appears anywhere else, other than it
is of course not on the LP.

mike

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:06:33 -0700
From: Neil Impelluso (kneel95@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: CT on MTV Europe (UK readers only)


If anyone can get me a stereo copy of the Cocteaus when they perform
their acoustic set on MTV Europe, I'd be eternally grateful...it'd go
great on my video compilation.  I'd pay dearly for this.  I'd settle
for a mono copy if that's all I can get my hands on.

PLEASE - SOMEONE IN THE U.K. TAPE THIS!   :)

-Neil
neil.impelluso@circellar.com
kneel95@ix.netcom.com

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:40:37 EDT
From: redacted (unknown@unknown)
Subject: CATHERINE WHEEL (sell outs)


        There's two words for a band that puts out incredible music, gains
popularity then makes an album with a RUSHesque cover and plenty of boring
grunge pop songs........SELL OUT. I can't believe I bought the album.


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:56:53 +0100
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: THE THE/GADGETS


Euthelene quoted/wrote:

>>does anyone know the whereabouts of any of the music by "matt johnson
>and the
>>gadgets"?(very rare)...?
>>
>don't even think about it.  ask hirschdave.  we had this discussion a
>long time ago so maybe some people will throw this back in yer face,
>but people on infected are pretty cool.  anyhow, matt had a very very
>tiny role in prodcuing the gadgets, i believe and they used his name
>once soul mining did some business.  so basically it is a shame and
>sellers try to capitolize on it.  but really, ask hirschdave, he knows
>just about everything, you can quote me.

I don't know who this hirschdave type is, but let me just say that the first
two Gadgets LPs, on Final Solution ('Gadetree' and 'Love, Curiosity,
Freckles & Doubt', both from 1980!!!!!) are really GREAT!! It wasn't until
The Gadgets 'Blue Album' (on Glass), from 1983, that things started to smell
bad.

How do I long for the good old days, before the French (ca. 1989) and later
on you Americans (ca. 1991) turned 4AD into a religion and 4AD artists into
gods....

Yours,

Screwdave

++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:23:33 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


Andrew Norman wrote:
>I do clearly remember that Robin dismissed TPO as "a
>K-tel album for the Yanks", a compilation of early stuff that Americans
>probably wouldn't have heard before...

In fact TPO in 1985 was the first Cocteau Twins thing to be released in
the US (on Relativity) as well as the first CD release anywhere. As far
as I can tell there had been basically zero word of the Cocteau Twins in
the US until then; they were pretty much unknown. After TPO there were
several reviews/articles in the US press (including a brief review in
People, if you can believe that...)

--Jens

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:05:59 -0700
From: "Hello... NEWMAN!" (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


> I, for one, consider it a greatest-hits, but also that a greatest hits
> is an album.  The Pink Opaque sounds like a major work.  All the
> tracks seem coherently placed, one track after another.  It's like
> Catching Up With Depeche Mode.

        I agree; it does hold together really well. I especially like the
part when Pepper-Tree ends, there's that clock ticking, then a split
second of silence, then... BAM-O! Musette & Drums!! Awesome song.

= "Wake up, see    \ If there's no God, why      + "Where unadmired beings =
= the sun...what's / are there atheists?         + dread the due changes   =
= done is done..." \  -variation on St. Anselm's + ahead..."               =
=  -Ride: "Today"  /   Ontological Proof         +  -Red House Painters    =

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:28:34 EDT
From: redacted (unknown@unknown)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins on mtv europe


>Some quick news. Cocteau twins suppose to appear on mtv europe tomorrow
>evening at 9pm. acoustic show with two or three songs being played.
>jack
>
        And NEVER would CT be played on U.S. MTV. Sometimes it's really
distressing to see the general taste in america for really BAD music.
...Dave


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:30:55 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: luminous Spiritualized stuff/Mojave/misc ramblings


You wrote:
>
>>I have seen the Spiritualized "glow in the dark" CD for $39.
Personally I
>>don't think it's worth that much, but seeing as how it is out of
print should
>>I pick this copy up?  (maybe for someone else?)
>
>I think it was around $39 or $40 when it first came out, so I doubt
you're
>going to get a better price. I would say that if you like _Pure Phase_
to
>begin with, get the fluorescent edition if you really want it
>


that's funny.... i just got it for $16.00 last weekend! i *knew* it was
out of print, so i needed to get it aswell! i don't think i would have
if it were $40.00.:)


>>so it is kind of like that "fucked up inside" thingy!
>What is the track listing for that - can someone tell me please?

take good care of it
i want you
medication
angel sigh
walking with jesus :):):):):):) hopefully, at the show this weekend!!!
shine a light (clear light/clear rush)
smiles

there you go.

                                        -robert.

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:17:39 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Whatever happenend to rarities II?? :(


violin mode 

Well, once upon a time, I was supposed to recieve a tape entitled "top hits of
the internet" as well as being on list of people on a tape chain entiled
"rarities ii" or somesuch to get all sorts of cool goodies that Lars (and
others) put together....

The "internet" tape never got made (for me, anyway, but I did get my $7 back
after a year); but I haven't heard anything about the Rarities tape in *ages*.
Like a year?

I know that Masaya (sp?) in Japan was the next person I was supposed to send the
tape to, but I haven't heard/seen anything.  Help....Lars!!

PS If anyone wants to make me a copy of their "copy" of the rarities tape, I
will duplicate that and send it on to those poor souls sho are further down the
line than myself.  (on the same token, I would still *love* to have a copy of
that "top hits of the internet" tape if anyone wants to tape it too.)


there, I'm done.

violin mode 


marvynHortman


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:53:14 -0700
From: Laurence Roberts RD (bellahs!newhall!lroberts@UUNET.UU.NET)
Subject: Re: Red Hot + Bothered


I was wondering if there was going to be a 3rd 10" with this other stuff.
I don't think the Future Bible Heros (Stephin Merritt of the Magnetic Fields)
track was on the first 2 10"s.

Larry-bob
lroberts@bellahs.com


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:29:25 0800
From: aaron thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: INTERGALACTIC Pre-Order INFO 10/6



that's where I'm at right now.  in their indie prerelease section, the
intergalactic garage lists Mojave 3-Ask Me Tomorrow CD for 22.49
or 24.95 after it is released.  But this is not the interesting part.  After
the vinyl listing, it says
"Frome (sic) the ashes of Slowdive.  Sounding not unlike the
Breeders."
What the hell?  Have you people been lying to me or what?

aaron
wasting time on the net

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:06:39 EST
From: "John T. Robicheau" (ROBICHEAU@DRUGINFONET.PHARM-EPID.PITT.EDU)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins on mtv europe


> From:          redacted 

>And NEVER would CT be played on U.S. MTV. Sometimes it's
>really
> distressing to see the general taste in america for really BAD music.
> ...Dave
>

I've actually seen the CT on 120 minutes a few times.



--------------
John Robicheau

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:25:46 -0700
From: "Hello... NEWMAN!" (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Red House Painters: "Moments" chords


        A few weeks ago, someone posted the setlist for one of RHP's
"Three Hour Tour" shows, which included the tunings. He asked if someone
would like to transcribe any of the songs based on the tunings. Well, I
wouldn't call this a transcription, but I did sit down last night and
figure out the chords for "Moments".
        First off, the tuning given in the original post (GBEADF#, capo
II) appears to be a 3rd above what I found worked for the one on _Ocean
Beach_, that is, FADGCE, no capo. It's the same set of intervals, just a
3rd lower. It's also a lot easier to tune to, since it involves simply
raising the low E and B strings a half-step. Here are the chords:

Main sequence-

  Dm9/G            Am7         Fsus2maj7        G6sus4

F A D G C E    F A D G C E    F A D G C E     F A D G C E
___________    ___________    ___________     ___________
0 5 0 0 0 0    X 0 2 0 0 0    0 3 3 0 0 0     2 3 0 0 0 0

Then, there's another sequence which appears, for instance, during the
line "I can't deny that I drift sometimes... "-

   Am7/D          Bb9/E

F A D G C E    F A D G C E  -> and then the same last two chords
___________    ___________     as the above four.
4 3 0 0 0 0    X 1 3 0 0 0

        I also noticed that the tuning for "Brockwell Park", both I and II,
uses the same set of intervals, if not the same tuning, but I didn't try
to sit down and learn it note by note right then.

        Enjoy!

= "Wake up, see    \ If there's no God, why      + "Where unadmired beings =
= the sun...what's / are there atheists?         + dread the due changes   =
= done is done..." \  -variation on St. Anselm's + ahead..."               =
=  -Ride: "Today"  /   Ontological Proof         +  -Red House Painters    =

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:23:20 -0700
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: THE THE/GADGETS


>How do I long for the good old days, before the French (ca. 1989) and later
>on you Americans (ca. 1991) turned 4AD into a religion and 4AD artists into
>gods....

HERETIC!!! HERETIC!!!

Jake

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:15:57 -0700
From: Laurence Roberts RD (bellahs!newhall!lroberts@UUNET.UU.NET)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


> (including a brief review in People, if you can believe that...)

People reviewed Sonic Youth's EVOL, which was about the same time,
so there must've been someone(s) with out-of-the-ordinary musical taste
working there at the time.  When I saw the review of EVOL, standing in
line at the supermarket, I thought the world was ending.

Larry-bob
lroberts@bellahs.com


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:50:42 +0200
From: Emiel Efdee (efdee@LUNA.NL)
Subject: A B C D E F G H


When, in what show and how late will the Cocteau Twins play live on MTV?

The Amps... er... I love the artwork! When is the next Breeders cd being
released?

Scheer... at the end of the song 'Take You Anywhere' there's some silence
and then a "song" for one and a half minute... What's he talking about? Is
this Schism?

=46avorite CT album: Sunburst and Snowblind

Those nice people at 4AD Ltd. have reserved a copy of this This Rimy River
ltd. edition for me... but =A3160 (incl. p.p.)... it's a lot of money! I'm
not sure if I'm going to buy this piece of artwork, who can give me some
advice?

On the "Rare On Air Volume 2" cd Tanya Donelly sings a version of 'Sweet
Ride'  and Vic Chesnutt is one of the other performing artists. Beautifull
sleeve designed by v23 by the way.

(non fourad) Does anyone have some information about Talk Talk? Do they
still make music or what... the last album (Laughing Stock) was released
almost five years ago... and I want more!

I've seen Bjork perform live yesterday. Great concert (a small band, a big
computer and a loud voice).
Only bad thing; she played in a big concert-hall (sport palace) and I had
rather see her in a small club...



Emiel Efdee 'If it doesn't fit, you must acquit'

------------------------------------
-      rotterdam, the netherlands
-      efdee@luna.nl
-      http://www.luna.nl/~efdee
------------------------------------

the unofficial 4AD catalogue:  http://www.luna.nl/~efdee/Catalogue/4AD.html

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:43:28 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins on mtv europe


Opps!  Thanks for the blurb, even though I am in the US.


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 21:25:35 -0400
From: "tOM." (tom@BEAVIS.IRESEARCH.COM)
Subject: Re: cocteau twins on mtv europe

              "Re: cocteau twins on mtv europe" (Oct 11,  6:06pm)

>
> I've actually seen the CT on 120 minutes a few times.
>


true - I have two different videos taped from "120 min" from around '88 -
"Love's Easy Tears" I think, and "Crushed".


--
~~~~~~~~~~>>
tOM.                                                   tom@iresearch.com
                                                       www.iresearch.com
                                                                  _    .
"Occasionally, I tread water for three days in a row."       ((  ( )) o)
                                                            -|    ?    |-
   .   .                                                     (o ((_)  ))
513 321 8644                                                 .
   ^   ^

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 21:30:52 -0400
From: "tOM." (tom@BEAVIS.IRESEARCH.COM)
Subject: searching for Dif Juz.....

              "Re: cocteau twins on mtv europe" (Oct 11,  6:06pm)

I would love to know if anyone happens to know where I can get a Dif Juz CD.  I
don't think there was ever that much released on CD (I checked out the Eyesore
DB on this), and I'm not sure its still in print for that matter.
Every once and awhile I run into someone who says "Oh jea, that name sounds
familiar" but I get no closer to getting my hands on something.  So if anyone
has any hints, I'm all ears.

Thanks,,,,,,,



--
~~~~~~~~~~>>
tOM.                                                   tom@iresearch.com
                                                       www.iresearch.com
                                                                  _    .
"Occasionally, I tread water for three days in a row."       ((  ( )) o)
                                                            -|    ?    |-
   .   .                                                     (o ((_)  ))
513 321 8644                                                 .
   ^   ^


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:28:11 -0400
From: Joey (jbriante@UOGUELPH.CA)
Subject: Re: CATHERINE WHEEL (sell outs)


Ditto for me. Happy Days is dreadful, probably the worst album I bought
this year, with the exception of Big Hit by Nitzer Ebb (ugghhh). Why must
so many bands decompose like this. Ride did it last year.....

joey

On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, redacted wrote:

>         There's two words for a band that puts out incredible music, gains
> popularity then makes an album with a RUSHesque cover and plenty of boring
> grunge pop songs........SELL OUT. I can't believe I bought the album.
>


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