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Subject: Re: rhp reasons for leaving 4ad
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 00:41:24 -0400
From: Renee Castro (Rennyok@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: rhp reasons for leaving 4ad
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 01:24:08 -0400
From: Bairmiami@AOL.COM
Subject: Lisa Gerrard in Boston
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 01:10:55 +0200
From: section25 (SECTION25@IDS.NET)
Subject: Muses on the auction block
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 03:23:14 -0400
From: Gil Gershman (TooPurist@AOL.COM)
Subject: Ambient, Frank Black, NEW CAN ALBUM!!!!
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:28:59 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: TAD releases / Echoes vol 1-4
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 02:57:41 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Love songs on the radio this thursday
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:59:06 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: What's with 3?
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 04:56:15 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: TAD releases / Echoes vol 1-4
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 04:54:43 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Catherine Wheel
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:36:27 +0100
From: "'H'y" (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:23:02 -0600
From: mesocyclone (soon@UNM.EDU)
Subject: the doom generation
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:50:41 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:36:43 CDT
From: Steven W Hill (shill@HARPER.CC.IL.US)
Subject: Help! Album...
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:54:03 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 12:23:49 EST
From: "Robicheau, John" (ROBICHEAU@DRUGINFONET.PHARM-EPID.PITT.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 17:02:06 -0400
From: the lower case n (cinnamon@ONE.NET)
Subject: hnia
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:59:22 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: AXIS-->4AD
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:10:47 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:04:34 -0400
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: What's with 3?
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 12:52:07 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:04:59 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: Help! Album...
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:34:56 -0700
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: AXIS-->4AD
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 16:21:01 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Help! Album...
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:38:45 -0700
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: AXIS-->4AD
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 18:46:08 -0400
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: hnia
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 18:01:45 EDT
From: Grover Cleveland (bwilliam@FOGELSON.CSF.EDU)
Subject: FS: THE THE 7"
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:15:58 -0700
From: "Chris.Hanks" (luna@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 17:02:39 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: What's with 3?
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:08:31 +0500
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 20:40:26 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:12:13 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: FS: Shellyan Orphan promo CD
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:10:38 -0700
From: "Chris.Hanks" (luna@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: Axis...4AD...and The Doom Generation
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:41:00 -0400
From: TMParade@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 18:50:17 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: hnia
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:08:47 -0600
From: Blissfield (aen1575@SILVER.SDSMT.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 20:55:42 -0500
From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: Re: unsubscribe
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:56:39 -0400
From: "James T. Crawford" (cinnamon@ONE.NET)

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 00:41:24 -0400
From: Renee Castro (Rennyok@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: rhp reasons for leaving 4ad


Actually, I wasn't assuming anything. It's a very small world.

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 01:24:08 -0400
From: Bairmiami@AOL.COM OCT. 17----> <----AUCTION ENDS OCT. 17----> <----AUCTION ENDS OCT. 17----> The bids so far... Lisa Germano, "Inconsiderate Bitch" EP-->$15 --this disc is out-of-print; digipak in super condition Lush, "For Love" EP-->$17.50 Astronaut --Out-of-print; tri-fold digipak in super condition Cocteau Twins interview picture CD-->$10 --A 40+ minute interview with the Twins; made in England; ltd. ed. of 1500; catalog #ABCD010 "The Conversation Disc Series" (not by 4AD) --Cover has picture of band; CD has color picture of Liz's face send all bids to bairmiami@aol.com

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 01:10:55 +0200
From: section25 (SECTION25@IDS.NET)
Subject: Lisa Gerrard in Boston


Sean Kline  wrote...

> Sorry If I deflate any expectations of those awaiting Lisa Gerrard,
> but her show in Boston this past Thursday night was very underwhelming.
> The opening monologue by a band member was ridiculous and started the
> show off flat. Her new material from the Mirror Pool just doesn't
> impress live, as all the orchestral music to support it is sampled or
> generated on Keyboard.

> I would be interested to hear from others who attended the show.

I would have to agree that I wasn't "blown away" by her performance.  I
thought it was good and all, but it seemed a little too close to the CD
to be particularly thrilling.  I felt as if I was listening to her album
in a big room with lots of other people.

Oh, and the person doing the poetry reading was Mark Ellis of Elijah's
Mantle, I believe.

a m o  p r o b o s,
s25.


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 03:23:14 -0400
From: Gil Gershman (TooPurist@AOL.COM)
Subject: Muses on the auction block


Hi all

I'll put the first two Throwing Muses cds (4AD imports) up for auction.
Anyone who is interested should just e-mail me (TooPurist@AOL.com). I'll
gladly provide track listings and other fun info, too.

THROWING MUSES - s/t
CAD 607 CD

THROWING MUSES - House Tornado / The Fat Skier
(completely different sleeve artwork from Sire version)
CAD 802 CD

I'll consider trades (especially if you have Silvania's "Paisaje III", the
new Cul De Sac, or early Disco Inferno and Butterfly Child singles...), but
I'd prefer $$$...

Tastes change, and a man's got to start saving up for the next Disco Inferno
album. :-)

Thanks for yr time and bandwidth.

Gil
who MUST mention:
>(Thorn) Hoedh's "Hymnvs" - an absolutely gorgeous record that /almost/ gives
Labradford a run for their money
>... and Lorelei's "Everyone Must Touch the Stove" - more lightning-streaked
genius.


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:28:59 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Ambient, Frank Black, NEW CAN ALBUM!!!!


hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US wrote:
 >
 > Second, I know this isn't the ambient list, but could someone
 > tell me which Aphex Twins CD(S) I should start out with?  I
 > don't have any of their stuff, but I like what I've heard, and
 > I'd like a place to start.  You can send it to me personally if
 > it'll annoy people on the list.

"Selected Ambient Works 1" is a collection of soft techno, "SAW 2" is a
collection of *very* ambient stuff (in the original Brian Eno, no drums
and no tunes sense).  "Surfing on Sine Waves" (recorded under the
Polygon Window alias for contractual reasons) is a good selection of
styles, "Classics" is early thumping techno, "...I Care Because You Do"
is another varied collection, but with a slightly harder edge than
"Surfing on Sine Waves" - I'd recommend either for beginners.  The Aphex
Twin is one man, by the way, Richard James (the "other" Aphex Twin is
now in Link/Reload/Global Communication).

Found Frank Black's "The Black Session" at the weekend, a very
reasonably priced French import, just under an hour of Frank and a
guitar/bass/drums band playing songs from the last album (and one from
his first, and a couple from the Teenage Fanclub-assisted Peel session)
The CD case is black with the details printed directly onto it, and I
guess it's the last FB release to bear the 4AD logo.  Pretty good
recording quality, but the band sounds a bit lacklustre - it suffers
from the problem live albums often have, it makes you remember how much
better the studio versions were.

Also in radio session land, Strange Fruit have just released all Can's
sessions from the John Peel show - four sessions from 1973-75, taking
in the last of Damo Suzuki (the first, eighteen minute, track), and the
time before Holger Czukay lost interest.  Six songs, but as you might
expect six Can songs fill 66 minutes.  Only one of these ("Half Past
One" or "Geheim") is previously released, and the whole album is superb
- I think it's probably the best post-Damo album, certainly as good as
"Soon over Babaluma" or "Landed" (the "official" albums of the same
time, and the last really good ones Can recorded before their "Rite
Time" reunion album in the late eighties)

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 09/10/95
On my walkman this morning : Pulp - singles
The tide is full, the moon lies fair


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 02:57:41 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: TAD releases / Echoes vol 1-4


Greetings,

Firstly, reading the FAQ part 2 the other day I noticed a listing of TAD release
. I think there were 4  -
 Lisa Germano, Blowback, Live at the Aquarium and The Curse. My question is the 
umber printed.
 These  are obviously limited but are we talking 5000, 10 000 or more (or less).


 In some crappy shop (the equivalent of a Marks & Spencers) in Sweden I saw Blow
ack and I didn't buy it (I hadn't heard blow at that time). I have never seen it
again, and I kick myself repeatedly. I found The Curse in a second hand shop thi
 weekend and got my grubby paws on it. (not easy in this part of the world).

What are the chances of finding Live at the Aquarium or Blowback again??

Anybody got a few they wanna part with??

Secondly, I picked up Echoes vol 111 (sisters). Although the quality is less tha
 perfect
(to say the least), it was interesting to hear Garden of Delight sung by Eldritc
 or First
and Last with totally different wording. I have got vol 11 on tape, but I wanna 
uy
the other three on CD too. The label says Life Live (or something). Anyone know
who distributes these boots? Even worse, I've got to try and get these in South 
frica.
Have mercy.


The searcher searches.........

Chris_Ayres.JNB01@intl.rx.xerox.com


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:59:06 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Love songs on the radio this thursday


um, mojave3 do an acoustic session on radcliffe's radio 1 show on
thursday here in england.

andyx
(a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 04:56:15 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: What's with 3?


On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Andrew Dean wrote:

> um, mojave3 do an acoustic session on radcliffe's radio 1 show on
> thursday here in england.

Maybe someone already asked this...but does anyone know where they came
up with this awful alternate name? Bleagh. :(

 e

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 04:54:43 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: TAD releases / Echoes vol 1-4


On Mon, 9 Oct 1995 Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM wrote:

> What are the chances of finding Live at the Aquarium or Blowback again??

Live at the Aquarium is available in the US in an unlimited release.
(There were probably fewer copies pressed, and I doubt there will be a
second pressing, but hey, it's unlimited!)

> Secondly, I picked up Echoes vol 111 (sisters).

Wow, volume one hundred and eleven! They're really getting up there. :)

> I have got vol 11 on tape, but I wanna buy the other three on CD too.

Do you mean including the one you have on tape? Are there a total of four
or five? I've got four. I will look at the place where I bought them
(several years ago, so don't place any bets on it) if you like.


  einexile still listens to modula green every day

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:36:27 +0100
From: "'H'y" (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Catherine Wheel


For UK listers,

I got a postcard last week to advertise the new Catherine Wheel single
featuring Tanya Donnely. Swayed by the marketing of the single ie
exclusive tracks, ltd edn 10'', postcards etc I trrundled off into town
today to get it. It has been pulled until next year. Why, I don't know.
Its not as if they're going to get massive airplay or anything. I wasn't
really expecting anything great really - just curious about TD
contribution and also to see how grunge CW have gone.

All was not lost I thought. I still managed to get the new Scheer and
the new Amps.

But having listened to them briefly I'm not impressed AT ALL. I'm trying
desperately hard not join the 'What's gone wrong with 4AD bandwagon' but
at the moment I'm running alongside it.


I Scheer's cat. no is BAD5012 CD and The Amps is BAD 5015 CD who's are
5013 and 5014.

'H'y

'H' Cambridge

Stockholm Environment Institute at York
University of York, York, Uk.



Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:23:02 -0600
From: mesocyclone (soon@UNM.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


  YES I KNOW THAT PINK OPAQUE IS A COMPILATION THAT THE COCTEAU TWINS
DID.  I HAVE BEEN WELL AWARE OF THAT FOR YEARS.  IT IS STILL THE BEST
ALBUM THEY'VE EVER DONE.  WHY DOES EVERYONE SEEM TO THINK THAT JUST
BECAUSE IT'S A COMPILATION IT DOESN'T COUNT FOR AN ALBUM???

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                                  *********
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  MBV, medicine, seefeel, flying saucer attack, slowdive, lovesliescrushing
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:50:41 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: the doom generation


i guess the movie's out some places now, but not here (i don't think).  has
anyone seen it?  what's the slowdive song on the soundtrack, and one more,
is there a soundtrack for sale?  i can't find one anywhere.  (release
date?)

and damn all you lucky english who can turn on the radio and hear mojave!

bye,

eric

"I don't care how it works.  I just want the concept."
        -House Majority Leader Dick Armey, when asked how his proposed flat
         tax would work. When asked how much he would pay under the proposed
         tax, he threw out numbers for 10 minutes hoping one of them would
         fly.  None of them did.


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:36:43 CDT
From: Steven W Hill (shill@HARPER.CC.IL.US)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM

              "mesocyclone" at Oct 9, 95 8:23 am

>   YES I KNOW THAT PINK OPAQUE IS A COMPILATION THAT THE COCTEAU TWINS
> DID.  I HAVE BEEN WELL AWARE OF THAT FOR YEARS.  IT IS STILL THE BEST
> ALBUM THEY'VE EVER DONE.  WHY DOES EVERYONE SEEM TO THINK THAT JUST
> BECAUSE IT'S A COMPILATION IT DOESN'T COUNT FOR AN ALBUM???

Well, I think the best Cocteau Twins album is a tape I made a few years
ago with all my favorite songs on it. Does anyone else think so?
-shill

--
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[]  []  [] Harper College, 1200 W Algonquin Rd, Palatine IL 60067-7398
           ----shill@harper.cc.il.us----http://www.harper.cc.il.us----
[]  []  []                    "Mostly harmless."
[][]  [][]       personal:(http://www.idis.com/shill/index.htm)


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:54:03 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Help! Album...


i'm surprised no one's mentioned this before, but it's all the rage on the
Suede list.  since i know there are fans of Suede, Blur, the Charlatans,
the Boo Radleys, and Portishead on this list, i thought i'd crosspost.  and
by the way, does anyone know where i can get this nifty comp?

>To whoever asked for a Help! album track-listing. This was posted to the
>UK-Indie list a couple of weeks ago. (Sorry to send it directly to the list
>but I deleted the original mail).
>
>Nik Hultin
>
>>Here we go then:
>>
>>1. Oasis and Friends - Fade Away
>>2. The Boo Radleys - Oh Brother
>>3. The Stone Roses - Love Spreads
>>4. Radiohead - Lucky
>>5. Orbital - Adnan
>>6. Portishead - Mourning Air
>>7. Massive Attack - Fake the Aroma
>>8. Suede - Shipbuilding
>>9. The Charlatans - Time for Livin'
>>10. Stereo MC's - Sweetest Truth (Show No Fear)
>>11. Sinead O'Connor - Ode to Billy Joe
>>12. The Levellers - Searchlights
>>13. Manic Street Preachers - Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head
>>14. Terrorvision - Tom Petty Loves Veruca Salt
>>15. The One World Orchestra - The Magnificent
>>16. Planet 4 Folk Quartet - Message to Crommie
>>17. Terry Hall and Salad - Dream a Little Dream
>>18. Neneh Cherry and Trout - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
>>19. Blur - Eine Kleine Lift Musik
>>20. The Mojo Filters - Come Together
>>
>
>

bye,

eric

"I don't care how it works.  I just want the concept."
        -House Majority Leader Dick Armey, when asked how his proposed flat
         tax would work. When asked how much he would pay under the proposed
         tax, he threw out numbers for 10 minutes hoping one of them would
         fly.  None of them did.


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 12:23:49 EST
From: "Robicheau, John" (ROBICHEAU@DRUGINFONET.PHARM-EPID.PITT.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


mesocyclone  says (screams):
>   YES I KNOW THAT PINK OPAQUE IS A COMPILATION THAT THE
COCTEAU TWINS
> DID.  WHY DOES EVERYONE SEEM TO THINK THAT JUST
> BECAUSE IT'S A COMPILATION IT DOESN'T COUNT FOR AN
ALBUM???

For the same reason that a bunch of singles is not an album.
For the same reason that Gala by Lush is not an album.
For the same reason that a 7" single is not an album.
For the same reason that a greatest hits CD is not an album.
For the same reason that a box set is not an album.

An album is an entity released as an artistic statement . All the songs
being recorded around the same session and placed in a certain
order as an art piece. CT never went into that studio and recorded
Pink Opaque.  Since an album flows in a certain way, a compilation
(or even the American Souvlaki with the extra tracks) is not an album.

When an artist is asked how many albums they  have recorded,
the artist usually doesn't include compilations, because no work goes
into them.

--------------
John Robicheau


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 17:02:06 -0400
From: the lower case n (cinnamon@ONE.NET)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM

              "mesocyclone" at Oct 9, 95 08:23:02 am

>   YES I KNOW THAT PINK OPAQUE IS A COMPILATION THAT THE COCTEAU TWINS
> DID.  I HAVE BEEN WELL AWARE OF THAT FOR YEARS.  IT IS STILL THE BEST
> ALBUM THEY'VE EVER DONE.  WHY DOES EVERYONE SEEM TO THINK THAT JUST
> BECAUSE IT'S A COMPILATION IT DOESN'T COUNT FOR AN ALBUM???

Typing in all-upper case is rude, and makes you look ignorant and
belligerent besides.

"The Pink Opaque" is not an album. It is a compilation. On an album, the
songs are written and ordered to go with one another as a unit. On a
compilation, the "greatest hits" or most-liked songs get thrown onto some
sort of media. See the difference?

"The Pink Opaque" was the second CT recording I ever bought. I still like
listening to it more than I like listening to the individual EPs in the
box set. I am more used to the ordering of TPO. It's still not an album.

--
           "I'll have to find my own resolve, someday." -- htr

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:59:22 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: hnia


Will someone please tell me a story about _His Name Is Alive Sings Man On
Silver Mountain Plus 8 Others_?  I didn't look at it closely but it
appeared to be a few songs from two of the albums.  Is there any reason
to buy this?  Thank you all.

Aaron

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:10:47 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: AXIS-->4AD


There were _four_ AXIS releases
Then the name was changed to 4AD
4 A.D.
get it?
am I an idiot?
comments please.  Does someone know the real story?


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:04:34 -0400
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Steven W Hill wrote:

> Well, I think the best Cocteau Twins album is a tape I made a few years
> ago with all my favorite songs on it. Does anyone else think so?
> -shill

I think if you read John's point, your tape, while probably an excellent
collection, is not an "album".  Think about taking chapters from a the
great novels in history, or even by the same author.  The result is not a
new Novel, but a compilation.

Alex
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 12:52:07 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: What's with 3?


e asks, re. Mojave3
>Maybe someone already asked this...but does anyone know where they came
>up with this awful alternate name? Bleagh. :(

There used to be a guy at Apple (well, there still is, he's just not at
Apple anymore) named Bo3b Johnson. His name is pronounced just plain
"Bob", the "3" is silent. I'm assuming Mojave3 are using the same silent "3".

j

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:04:59 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


Steve Hill wrote:

> Well, I think the best Cocteau Twins album is a tape I made a few years
> ago with all my favorite songs on it. Does anyone else think so?

Nah, the one *I* made is better because it has TMC on the back!  Try finding
that on K-tel.  :)


marvynHortman


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:34:56 -0700
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: Help! Album...


        I think this compilation is coming out in the US toward the end
of October.  It is on the CDNow lists as upcoming.

        Cheers,
        David.

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 16:21:01 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: AXIS-->4AD


Aaron Thorne writes:
>There were _four_ AXIS releases
>Then the name was changed to 4AD
>4 A.D.
>get it?
>am I an idiot?
>comments please.  Does someone know the real story?

The canonical story substantiated by Ivo himself is that 4AD is a
contraction of "forward":
forward -> 4ward -> 4ard [British pronunciation] -> 4AD

This is in the FAQ, by the way. http://www.inow.com/~jens/Jens/4AD_FAQ.html

--Jens

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:38:45 -0700
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: Help! Album...


        Oh, and word on the Orbital list is that The One World Orchestra
is none other than the KLF!  I know not many 4ADers are going to give a
Mu Mu but it is popular culture and that makes it important.

        Cheers,
        David

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 18:46:08 -0400
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: AXIS-->4AD


Isn't this in the 4AD-L FAQ?

Axis could not be used for legal reasons; there was already a record
label with that name.

"4AD" grew from the following pattern:

1980 Forward
1984ward
4AD

That is the commonly held explanation of how the name originated.  I
suppose Mr. Ivo came up with it while doodling absent-mindedly at his
desk one day. Who knows? ;)  It would take a stretch for _ME_ to have
gotten 4AD from 1984ward...


Mike
iceblink@delphi.com

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 18:01:45 EDT
From: Grover Cleveland (bwilliam@FOGELSON.CSF.EDU)
Subject: Re: hnia


    I think the best thing about _His Name is Alive Sings Man
on the Silver Mountain and 8 other songs_ is staring endlessly at the
utterly camouflaged text on the disc itself; or, trying to figure out
which way is "up" on the disc (if you're one of THEM); or, maybe
listening to those few songs in a different order; um..
    ..Brian
    "Great, great. Can I have my hat and gloves back now?"
    -Orenthal Simpson to Judge Ito after the announcement of the
verdict

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:15:58 -0700
From: "Chris.Hanks" (luna@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: FS: THE THE 7"


I have the following very rare THE THE 7" for sale.  This is
THE THE's first official release.

Apparently it will never be reprinted by 4AD, as Matt Johnson decided
not to include on the re-release of his solo LP "Burning Blue Soul"
last year.

Pic-sleeve and record are in excellent (but not perfect) condition.
$45 (US) or better offer gets it.

THE THE
   7": 1980 UK 4AD Records (4AD10)
       Controversial Subject
       Black & White
   Notes:
        - features some members of Wire?
--
Chris.
luna@teleport.com


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 17:02:39 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, mesocyclone wrote:

>   YES I KNOW THAT PINK OPAQUE IS A COMPILATION THAT THE COCTEAU TWINS
> DID.  I HAVE BEEN WELL AWARE OF THAT FOR YEARS.  IT IS STILL THE BEST
> ALBUM THEY'VE EVER DONE.  WHY DOES EVERYONE SEEM TO THINK THAT JUST
> BECAUSE IT'S A COMPILATION IT DOESN'T COUNT FOR AN ALBUM???
>


Well, they didn't actually DO it, it was put together by 4AD and
Relativity ...

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:08:31 +0500
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: What's with 3?


>e asks, re. Mojave3
>>Maybe someone already asked this...but does anyone know where they came
>>up with this awful alternate name? Bleagh. :(
>
>There used to be a guy at Apple (well, there still is, he's just not at
>Apple anymore) named Bo3b Johnson. His name is pronounced just plain
>"Bob", the "3" is silent. I'm assuming Mojave3 are using the same silent "3".

then again, aren't there three people on the band?

eric
"I don't care how it works.  I just want the concept."
        -House Majority Leader Dick Armey, when asked how his proposed flat
         tax would work. When asked how much he would pay under the proposed
         tax, he threw out numbers for 10 minutes hoping one of them would
         fly.  None of them did.

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 20:40:26 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


>>   YES I KNOW THAT PINK OPAQUE IS A COMPILATION THAT THE COCTEAU TWINS
>> DID.  I HAVE BEEN WELL AWARE OF THAT FOR YEARS.  IT IS STILL THE BEST
>> ALBUM THEY'VE EVER DONE.  WHY DOES EVERYONE SEEM TO THINK THAT JUST
>> BECAUSE IT'S A COMPILATION IT DOESN'T COUNT FOR AN ALBUM???

>Well, I think the best Cocteau Twins album is a tape I made a few years
>ago with all my favorite songs on it. Does anyone else think so?
>-shill

Not quite.  The Xmal Deutschland tape you made was just a bit better.

Jason

srilank@aol.com

"It was Hubert's look!  The way he stared at us!  As if you'd said he was
licking his chops!..."  - W.D. Steele

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:12:13 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


einexile wrote:
>Anyway, while we're not being existentially complicated, the best Cocteau
>Twins album is Lifeforms 1-7. :)

But are the vocals on Path 3 by Liz? They have more of that wailing Lisa
Gerrard flavor that "Papua New Guinea" had. (I know the vocals on the
other parts are Liz, just wondering about 3.)

>  einexile, who actually most likes Head Over Heels

That's far and away their best album. It gave me shivers and fits of
ecstasy for years. It was one of the only times where I bought a great
record by a great band and _didn't_ force all my friends to listen to it;
it was just so strange, so personal, I didn't know if anyone else would
like it...

--Jens (no longer multicoloured, just multifoiled)


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:10:38 -0700
From: "Chris.Hanks" (luna@TELEPORT.COM)
Subject: FS: Shellyan Orphan promo CD


I have the following Shellyan Orphan promo-only compilation CD for sale.
Please e-mail me offers.  Thanks!

SHELLYAN ORPHAN : WAKING UP
   CD : 1992 US Columbia Records (CSK 4567) promo, digipak
        4:38    Burst
        4:49    Dead Cat
        6:58    Supernature On A Superhighway
        3:04    Late Night
        3:04    Shatter
        3:21    Summer Flies
        5:09    Cavalry of Cloud
        3:37    Southern Bess (A Field Holler)
   Notes:
        - Tracks 1-3 from "Humroot" album
        - Tracks 4 from This Mortal Coil "Blood"
        - Tracks 5-6 from "Century Flower" album
        - Tracks 7-8 from "Helleborine" album
--
Chris.
luna@teleport.com

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:41:00 -0400
From: TMParade@AOL.COM
Subject: Axis...4AD...and The Doom Generation


...but I heard 4AD was also a word play on "for a day"

The Doom Genereation features TWP, Lush, and Cocteau Twins plus Slowdive,
Pizzicato Five, The Jesus and Mary Chain, and others on the soundtrack which
will be released very shortly on American Recordings...all previously
released tracks and remixes, I think.

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 18:50:17 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Alex Wolfson wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Steven W Hill wrote:
>
> > Well, I think the best Cocteau Twins album is a tape I made a few years
> > ago with all my favorite songs on it. Does anyone else think so?
> > -shill
>
> I think if you read John's point, your tape, while probably an excellent
> collection, is not an "album".  Think about taking chapters from a the
> great novels in history, or even by the same author.  The result is not a
> new Novel, but a compilation.

Hey, you know what? You're right!

So let me just clear one thing up: If he had read John's point, he would
automatically have agreed with it?

Mouth by Mouth is not an album, either, btw. (Not that is seems like one.)


 e


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:08:47 -0600
From: Blissfield (aen1575@SILVER.SDSMT.EDU)
Subject: Re: hnia


i agree with brian.  'hnia sings man on the silver mountain' is not
really to die for, but it's a nice mix.  all of the songs on it are
available on 'livonia' and 'home is in your head,' but hey, i like to
collect things, so that's why i bought my copy.

hrmmm
tony

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 20:55:42 -0500
From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


In , Alex Wolfso
 wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Steven W Hill wrote:
>
> > Well, I think the best Cocteau Twins album is a tape I made a few years
> > ago with all my favorite songs on it. Does anyone else think so?
> > -shill
>
> I think if you read John's point, your tape, while probably an excellent
> collection, is not an "album".  Think about taking chapters from a the
> great novels in history, or even by the same author.  The result is not a
> new Novel, but a compilation.

I'm sorry I left out the smiley. I was being facetious, but I thought it was
obvious.
-shill

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:56:39 -0400
From: "James T. Crawford" (cinnamon@ONE.NET)
Subject: Re: unsubscribe


>argh!  pardon me for not being able to let his go, but I find it hard to
>swallow such horrid spelling...and the GRAMMAR.  oy!  Where'd you get
>that PhD anyways?  Your parents clearly did not get their moneys' worth
>from that charm school of yours either...

They'll just give ANYBODY a PhD these days. *sigh*


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