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Subject: Re: Twinlights (yet another)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 00:30:12 -0400
From: Neil James (Quixote4@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 12:05:43 GMT-3
From: "PATRICIA J. MATZENBACHER" (9380013@PUB.UNISINOS.TCHE.BR)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 18:53:56 -0700
From: Athol-Brose (morticia@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Re: rhp reasons for leaving 4ad
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 02:35:40 -0400
From: Renee Castro (Rennyok@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Carnage Visors
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 02:55:39 +0100
From: Christophe Demunter (Christophe.Demunter@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 12:33:46 -0400
From: Enfoire@AOL.COM
Subject: Stereolab/Mojave
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 12:30:31 -0400
From: Larry Koch (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Re: THIS BAND-GARBAGE
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 10:04:23 -0700
From: Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Carnage Visors
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 12:41:26 -0500
From: John Roseborough (jrose@AUSTIN.METROWERKS.COM)
Subject: UK Release Dates
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 14:42:34 EDT
From: Derek Innocent (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 15:51:56 -0400
From: Ryan Ferguson (ferguson@NETACCESS.ON.CA)
Subject: Re: Mojave (again)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 15:54:29 -0400
From: Ryan Ferguson (ferguson@NETACCESS.ON.CA)
Subject: Re: NEW MEDICINE ALBUM / BREEDING RITUALS OF GUINEAU CHIHUAWAS
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:08:41 EWT
From: soul whirling somewhere (BGMUTZA@CLUSTER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU)
Subject: Re: The Lillies
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:48:51 +0700
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: THIS BAND-GARBAGE
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 17:07:43 +0700
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 15:32:08 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: rhp reasons for leaving 4ad
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:13:19 -0700
From: Delphine Eunice Hwang (delfy@UCLINK2.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: time stereo
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:34:03 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 18:46:55 -0700
From: sean devine (kober@GAS.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU)
Subject: Lisa Gerrard, Oct. 9th, NYC...
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 21:52:04 -0400
From: "Thinking no thing will limited-self unlimit."

Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 00:30:12 -0400
From: Neil James (Quixote4@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Twinlights (yet another)


I sure some of you are tired of reading reviews of Twinlights, but i felt i
had to get what i was feeling off of my chest.  From what i had been reading
on several lists, i had no idea what to expect.  What i did expect was a new
direction, since i have been listening to them since about 1984, and every
album hold something new; some new direction that they explore.  I have to
say, though, that this EP took me by surprise.  I absolutely love it.  The
arrangements are delicate and well thought out, the mood is intimate and
warm, and that voice!  This EP, I feel, showcases the best of the
ever-changing Cocteau Twins.  Even the artwork is facinating.  They have
stated that this EP is not their 'new' sound, but i would love if they did a
full album in this style.  'Otherness' will have a new direction; 'Milk and
Kisses' will have a direction...and so on...and so on...that's what I love
about CT...you can't pigeonhole them...

Ok...to answer David's question:
<<>>

Mine would have to be...Blue Bell Knoll.  Heaven Or Las Vegas is a close
second.

Thanks for listening-
neil


Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 12:05:43 GMT-3
From: "PATRICIA J. MATZENBACHER" (9380013@PUB.UNISINOS.TCHE.BR)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


>

>         OK. I'm new to the list, but is there a consensus out there as to
> what our favorite cocteau twins album is? I know this poses a deep,
> disturbing question in my heart....but I vote heaven or las vegas.
Anyone? No! TREASURE, TREASURE! Treasure!
defenetely Treasure!

Patricia


9380013@pub.unisinos.tche.br
sao  leopoldo rs
brasil

Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 18:53:56 -0700
From: Athol-Brose (morticia@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


I don't know the Cocteau Twins as well online here as I know others are,
but in my opinion, the best Twins albums are...

1) Blue Bell Knoll
2) The Pink Opaque
3) Treasure
4) Moon and the Melodies
                                        -Morticia-

--------------
"They say she done them, all of them in.
 They say she done it with an axe."
                        -Sandman


On Fri, 6 Oct 1995,  wrote:

> In my opinion,
> 1.the pink opaque
> 2.victorialand
> 3.heaven or las vegas
> but then again, the cocteau twins are a group that really seems to touch
> everyone's emotions, likes, and feelings. Any comments, anyone?
>


Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 02:35:40 -0400
From: Renee Castro (Rennyok@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: rhp reasons for leaving 4ad


Some how I doubt it.  Mark K. wishes he was the tortured soul he trys to make
him self to be.  He's more of a sorry soul and creates his own problems. I'm
surprised someone hasn't slapped him silly and told him to get over his big
bad self.

Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 02:55:39 +0100
From: Christophe Demunter (Christophe.Demunter@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: Re: Carnage Visors


> >   Speaking of "Carnage Visors", does anyone know if it has ever found its wa

> >   onto CD?  I know it was found on the b-sides of cassette releases of
> >   "Faith" for a while, but I lost my copy...

When they toured in Europe during the spring of 1981, they used some
introfilm instead of a support-act, I remember hearing the "soundtrack"
to this short film was put on the b-side of the cassette-version of Faith.


 Christophe Demunter,
 Gent, Belgium.


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Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 12:33:46 -0400
From: Enfoire@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


The Moon and the Melodies.  (I know it's not under their name, but let's not
get too complicated existentially speaking.)


Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 12:30:31 -0400
From: Larry Koch (larry@INTERLOG.COM)
Subject: Stereolab/Mojave


>>
>>has "seeperbold" been released anywhere other than the select magazine
>>cassette? just wondering,
>
>Which issue of select is this?

April '95. It's not found anywhere else.

>I haven't heard about this song before; it
>could be on Refried Ectoplasm I suppose (which I haven't got yet).

It isn't, but it could be added to the US version, I suppose.

>Speaking
>of which, anyone know of a US release date for RE?

I think I saw a mention of it among the upcoming releases in AP, but all I
know is that it'll be out before the end of the year, on Drag City, if I
recall correctly.

>"After that ("Pygmalion"), Slowdive didn't so much split as take a shift
>in direction, one that a couple of the other members weren't comfortable
>with.

So who left, exactly? Simon and Nick? And who are the new members, if any?

Larry

Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 10:04:23 -0700
From: Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: THIS BAND-GARBAGE


You wrote:
>
>        What do people out there think of the band Garbage? In a way
I'm
>almost taken back immediately at the idea of entering a world of
rolling
>stone articled bands...but I got the album anyway. Theyr'e prety good.
The
>lyrics are kinda...poppy, girly band sounding. But the actual music is
>well... prety good.
>What do people think?

this people thinks it is a good release, the tune "vow" hit me as one
of the great listens first time type tunes.  Angelfish is so much
better in this gig, her group's release last year was sorta lame,
IMNSHO.  "Queer" is another catchy tune.  And while i wouldn't call
this brilliant it is very strong, and that's a good thing these days.
Butch did a nice job, kudos...

Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 12:41:26 -0500
From: John Roseborough (jrose@AUSTIN.METROWERKS.COM)
Subject: Re: Carnage Visors


At 12:53 PM 10/6/95, Chadwick Dorton wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Sep 1995, Frey, Bryan wrote:
>
>>   Speaking of "Carnage Visors", does anyone know if it has ever found its way
>>   onto CD?  I know it was found on the b-sides of cassette releases of
>>   "Faith" for a while, but I lost my copy...
>
>The Cure has always had a thing for releasing "bonus tracks" on cassette
>and leaving CD and LP buyers out in the cold.  As far as I know, "Carnage
>Visors" is only available on cassette, unless they have rereleased it in
>the past few years.  (I stopped keeping track of The Cure for the past few
>years.)

I have both "Carnage Visors" and all their B-sides from "Standing on a
Beach", plus a couple of b-sides from Disintegration ("Late" and another),
on an import compilation called "The Cure B-sides 1979-1989: The Complete
Collection" (er something to that effect, it's at home now...).  If you'd
like the exact title, send me email.

John

____________________________________________________
The mark of a truly civilized human being is the
ability to read a column of numbers and then weep.

                 Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
                 English Mathematician & Philosopher


Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 14:42:34 EDT
From: Derek Innocent (100702.123@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Subject: UK Release Dates


There have been several comments on here about when things are coming,
particularly the Mojave LP. Here are the release dates that I know (all UK)

Amps ep - 9th Oct '95
Scheer ep - 9th Oct '95
Air Miami ep - 16th Oct '95
Mojave LP - 16th Oct '95
Air Miami LP - 30th Oct '95
Amps LP - 30th Oct '95

Whether there will be any other releases in '95 is doubtful. There may be a new
Lush ep before Christmas. Early '96 will see LPs from Heidi Berry, Scheer, Lush,
Dead Can Dance, His Name Is Alive and Lisa Germano.

- Dez


(Current Listening: Stereo - Spooky (Generic), Milk - Garbage (Mushroom),
Initials BB - Mick Harvey (Mute), Where The Wild Roses Grow - Nick Cave & Kylie
Minogue (Mute), Blueprint - Attica Blues (Mo Wax), Outdoor Miner - Flying Saucer
Attack (Domino), Big O Motel - Tarnation (4AD), Love Songs On The Radio - Mojave
(4AD), Little Trouble Girl - Sonic Youth with Kim Deal (Geffen))

Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 15:51:56 -0400
From: Ryan Ferguson (ferguson@NETACCESS.ON.CA)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


The Moon and the Melodies


Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 15:54:29 -0400
From: Ryan Ferguson (ferguson@NETACCESS.ON.CA)
Subject: Re: Mojave (again)


The new member is Chris, he plays piano, keyboards and is Rachel's
fiancee.  He's from Toronto, I met the two of them one night when they
were  in Toronto, very nice couple they were.

Cheers,
Ryan


Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:08:41 EWT
From: soul whirling somewhere (BGMUTZA@CLUSTER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU)
Subject: Re: NEW MEDICINE ALBUM / BREEDING RITUALS OF GUINEAU CHIHUAWAS


>Hold up!!!... The tour schedule at american recordings is for last year's
>european tour. I just don't want anyone to be fooled. They should really

no no no... :)  the tour schedule on the medicine page is outdated, but the one
on the tours page is up-to-date.  the url for that page is:
        http://american.recordings.com/tours/medicine_tour.html

for those of you without www access, here's their schedule through october:

Sat-Oct-07      Madison, WI     Club D'Wash
Sun-Oct-08      Minneapolis, MN 7th Street Entry
Tue-Oct-10      St. Louis, MO   The Other World
Wed-Oct-11      Lawrence, KS    The Bottleneck
Thu-Oct-12      Denver, CO      Mercury Cafe
Fri-Oct-13      Salt Lake City, UT      Bar & Grill
Sun-Oct-15      Portland, OR    Satyricon
Mon-Oct-16      Vancouver, Canada       Town Pump
Tue-Oct-17      Seattle, WA     Moe
Thu-Oct-19      San Francisco, CA       Bottom of the Hill
Fri-Oct-20      Hollywood, CA   The Whisky
Sat-Oct-21      Santa Barbara, CA       The Underground
Sun-Oct-22      San Diego, CA   Casbah

hope this clears some things up...
brian


Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:48:51 +0700
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: The Lillies


>When the flexi was released with the fanzine, I mailed a couple to list
>members (hi Ken Darcovich (spelling?), are you still around?).  I remember
>Simon Raymonde (I think it was) saying that they just wanted to prove that
>good football songs could be made like theirs and New Order's "World In
>Motion" ... which kinda struck me as odd since I thought both songs were
>pretty shite.  Give me "Bradford City, Bradford City, you know we're gonna
>win ... and never give in" any day.  At least it's a good sing-a-long!

how about "world cup fever" by air miami and "the official colourbox world
cup theme," whose real greatness lies in the fact that it has no words.

eric

Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 17:07:43 +0700
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: THIS BAND-GARBAGE


>        What do people out there think of the band Garbage? In a way I'm
>almost taken back immediately at the idea of entering a world of rolling
>stone articled bands...but I got the album anyway. Theyr'e prety good. The
>lyrics are kinda...poppy, girly band sounding. But the actual music is
>well... prety good.
>What do people think?

they're another "corporate rock" band.  not that all major label stuff is
bad.  i just think it's funny that i keep seeing them pegged as a Madison
band (butch vig is from Madison) when i don't ever remember them playing
here.  that's my beef with garbage.  then again, i could be wrong.

eric

Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 15:32:08 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


On Sat, 7 Oct 1995 Enfoire@AOL.COM wrote:

> The Moon and the Melodies.  (I know it's not under their name, but let's not
> get too complicated existentially speaking.)

But it IS complicated existentially speaking: Harold Budd wrote about two
thirds of the album.

Anyway, while we're not being existentially complicated, the best Cocteau
Twins album is Lifeforms 1-7. :)


  einexile, who actually most likes Head Over Heels


Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:13:19 -0700
From: Delphine Eunice Hwang (delfy@UCLINK2.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Re: rhp reasons for leaving 4ad


On Sat, 7 Oct 1995, Renee Castro wrote:

> Some how I doubt it.  Mark K. wishes he was the tortured soul he trys to make
> him self to be.  He's more of a sorry soul and creates his own problems. I'm
> surprised someone hasn't slapped him silly and told him to get over his big
> bad self.


Hey, easy on the assumptions and attacks.  We don't need that kind of crap
here.

delphine


Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:34:03 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: time stereo


Ok, sorry - stupid question that has been answered before.

Who do I make my time stereo check out to - time stereo, record
collector, or someone else?

Thanks,
Mike

                            n9344881@cc.wwu.edu
  "He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over
 life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."


Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 18:46:55 -0700
From: sean devine (kober@GAS.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: TOP COCTEAU TWINS ALBUM


treasure.and  blue bell knoll
hee-hee-ho
-kober-formerly etzel(bane of all HNIA fans)

Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 21:52:04 -0400
From: "Thinking no thing will limited-self unlimit."
Subject: Lisa Gerrard, Oct. 9th, NYC...


hey all;

it might just turn up that i will not have anyone to go to this concert with.
        yeah, i know it sucks and all, but what can i do?  so, i *might*
        have an extra tix.  i will only know for sure tomorrow night, so
        if by any chance i can't get any of my friends to come with me, i will
        post an *invitation* to the list.
so, anyone in nyc who did not get tix for the show, but who would like to go,
        make sure to e-mail me privately after (and if) i post that i am going
        solo.  :(
i was planning to take a friend who never heard dcd or lisa gerrard, so it
        would be an "initiation."  :)  the only thing that my friend has ever
        listened to that come close to the dcd/gerrard sound was deep forest.
        *smile*  oh, and enigma.  :)  yeah, i know, a bit lame, perhaps, but
        when asked to define lisa's type of music, i could only say: "she
        sings middle eastern/middle age like/ethereal music."  needless to
        say that i got a big "huh?" from my friend.
so i just told her that it was like enigma and deep forest without the hype.
        well, perhaps others have better stories about encounters with top
        40 radio listeners who are scared/dazzled/baffled/overwhelmed by
        4ad music (ok, the likes of CT, DCD, LG, RHP, and HNIA, to name a
        few).

ciao, for now...

Joherius Illuminatus

        "And from this springs the extraordinary question:  Did the
        Egyptians know about electricity?"
                - Peter Kolosimo, Terra senza tempo, Milan, Sugar, 1964, p. 111