Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 22:24:58 -0400
Not a dumb question (no such thing).
Not the big kahuna (that I've seen for upwards of $2000). This is LTD. Ed.
Vinyl with Gatefold Inside/more elaborate Artwork and 12" version of the
booklet (design a tad different) from the CD Book. If you are into vinyl and
4AD, essential. Don't spend more than $25 -$30 as I've seen it from
collectors at such prices. Love it.
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 22:11:55 -0500
On Tue, 3 Oct 1995,
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 20:35:33 -0700
>Actually I think that O.J. should either join The Village People or Pearl
>Jam. Does anyone agree or am i speaking to invisible ghosts as usual?
Or maybe My Bloody Valentine. Sorry.
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 20:39:51 -0700
>i believe someone mentioned the rhp show in sf this past
>weekend. i wanted to chip in my two cents...
>the show was _terrific_. They played for 3 hrs and 21 min
>by my watch. it seemed like about half the songs they played
>as a band went over the 10-minute mark. they played really
>epic versions of some old songs (evil, medicine bottle,
>down colorful hill, etc.) plus some great new songs.
>mark's comments about their departure from 4ad were quite
>funny :) i just hope they find a new label soon.
My favorite one was when he said that he would tell us all the reasons he
left the label "just to clear up all the internet bullshit." :)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 00:13:41 -0400
On Tue, 3 Oct 1995,
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 00:12:05 +0200
i know that certain people have expressed a dislike for auctions, so I
will only post this once. (therefore only requiring one press of the "D"
key located towards the left of your keyboard). Anyway, I have the
following items for sale/bid.
remember kids...only email me PRIVATELY, not to the list!
dirt issue #69 with 'soil samples' split 7"
featuring Tarantion "don't fancy me"
and Liquorice "team player" both remixed
by our pal Warren DeFever. Yellow vinyl.
Kendra Smith "Five Ways Of Disappearing" promo
advance cd complete with 3 hand letterpress
printed collector cards, still wrapped in
paper. very rare!
Kendra Smith "Valley of The Morning Sun" 2 song
Air Miami "I hate Milk" 1 song promo cd.
Frank Black "Headache" EP (BAD 4007) 4 songs.
Lisa Germano "Cry Wolf" EP. promo only. 4 songs
unreleased non-album tracks/remixes.
Dead Can Dance "American Dreaming" 1 song promo CD
Wolfgang Press "Standing Up Straight" CD
Liquorice "Cheap Cuts" 5 song promo CD with ESP
The Moon And The Melodies "moon and the melodies" UK CD
it pains me to sell these, but i need to eat.
if interested, please email me!
oh yeah, i will also pay for postage.
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 21:47:27 -0700
I was looking at the show lists at the radio station today.
Someone may find something good to see. hopefully
10/19 Luna, Air Miami; The Roxy
10/20 Medicine, Sixteen Deluxe, Long Fin Killie; The Whiskey
10/20 IPR Night: Scenic, Deception Bay, A Produce; Spaceland
10/25 Lisa Gerrard; Wiltern Theater
11/1 Bjork, rescheduled; Hollywood Palladium
11/10 Sonic Youth, The Amps, Bikini Kill; Hollywood Palladium
(Is this Kim Deal or no?)
Nov. Lloyd Cole, Ivy; The Roxy
(Maybe I'll be able to see Ivy this time, they've been touring for ever!)
(Or do they live in S. California now?)
Nov. Spiritualized, Polara; The Whiskey
(Polara. This guy, Ed Ackerson, absolutely rocks. I haven't seen them
live, but his single(s?) and CD are great.)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 23:55:47 -0700
"PLOCKE.US.ORACLE.COM" at Oct 3, 95 09:09:03 am
> mark's comments about their departure from 4ad were quite
> funny :) i just hope they find a new label soon.
Especially funny was Mark's improvisation during Lord Kill the Pain:
I didn't want to put this song on the record
But Ivo made me
He said it would sell a million copies
Of course it didn't
> mark and jerry did part of "dueling banjos", with mark on
> guitar and jerry on bass;
Or as Mark put it, 'Dueling Fucking Rock Guitar and Bass.'
> they played part of "war pigs",
> which is some metal song i don't know;
This was actually another Black Sabbath song, Sweet Leaf, the only
cover of the evening, aside from the aforementioned Banjos. I was
hoping for Silly Love Songs, but likely it's something they've not
had time to work on as a band.
Edward Wakabayashi /\
Sleep Lab, x4227 \/ La-la-la-la-la di-da
firstname.lastname@example.org /\ -
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 09:14:25 +0100
"David Mccallum" at Oct 3, 95 04:00:39 pm
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 06:42:10 -0400
>> >ps - I heard alannis morissette was an actress...
>> awful 17-year-old Paula Abdul/Tiffany type Top 40/dance arteeste...until she
>> suddenly, conveniently and commerciallyviably went Alternative(tm)
>Now she just sounds like Taylor Dane.
>Alternative my ass. ^^^^^^^^^^^
You are correct on both counts! The sooner people outside Canada realise
what a prefabricated fake she is, the better (although even the British
music press seems to have fallen for it). Not only does she sound like
Taylor Dane, in her new video where she doesn't seem to be wearing any
makeup, she looks like Roland Orzabal from Tears for Fears. "I've got one
hand in my pocket"...and the other one's flipping you the bird, ya big
>Wouldn't it be great if O.J. released a record on 4AD?
Well, considering the talent he showed in that workout video, no...I *do*
think Marcia Clark would be a good replacement for Kelley Deal
Larry, who thinks Rachel is cool although her lyrics on Pygmalion were
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:50:41 -0700
anybody know if there are plans for guernica releases this year. or has
the imprint been knocked on the head?
and whatever happened to the temporary tad things, are there going to
be any more of those or was that another failed experiment?
btw mr. norman, how much was the vu box? and is it worth getting if you
already have all the previously available stuff (except the dodgy reunion
seven seconds of agony, seven seconds of liquid bliss...
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 03:58:28 PDT
Seen quite a few messages on O J today. Anyone care to comment/speculate.
(guilty / not guilty | money | race | celeb.) ?
** Private E-mail please.**
"Kill your Wife" - The Bomb Party (1985)
"People are People" - DM (1984)
"MR 44" - Electric Hellfire Club (1993)
"1963" - New Order (1987)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:58:40 +0100
Sorry to all the 4AD-L digest mode people, but I have to send this message
via the 4AD-L, because I can't reach Mike via private e-mail.
I'm trying to e-mail you at MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU, but got my mail returned (3
times), including the message:
>The message could not be delivered to:
> %MAIL-E-USERSPEC, invalid user specification '@AOL.COM'
> id <01HW021TO28G00DY8T@DEPAUW.EDU>; Tue, 03 Oct 1995 11:02:45 >-0500 (EST)
> (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 13:25:29 -0700
>Now she just sounds like Taylor Dane.
>Alternative my ass.
Aw, I kind of like her mega-smash-hit song. It's interesting to see how
female rage has been legitimized in mersh music; did PJ Harvey lead the
way? Whatever you may think of the merits of A.M., the venom level in
that song is pretty hair raising. I like the way the boy deejays feel
threatened by it, based on their attempts to joke it off in their lame
comments after the song ends.
And just so this is marginally thislisty, let me recommend the soundtrack
to the film "Exotica". The film is terrific and I hope everyone saw it,
but the soundtrack album works well by itself too. About half the songs
are Arabic/Indian style synth-dance music (tho written by a Canadian, but
the vocals and some of the instruments are authentic) and the other half
are moody bits of atmosphere, often with a similarly Exotic tone. There's
tremendous opportunity for cheesiness in combining synthesizers with
world music, Mychael Danna has largely pulled it off (and anyway, a lot
of authentic world music such as Rai often has far cheesier arrangements...)
--Jens /hasn't imported his .signature into Claris eMailer yet/
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 13:05:39 +0100
at Oct 4, 95 11:50:41 am
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 09:16:27 -0400
apparently yhere is a bonnie and clyde single, apart from the version feature
on three stories...sorry for the misinformation...peace all
"some people talk like babies, others say nothing at all"
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:31:31 EDT
Is anyone out there into the band MEDICINE? Because if you do like
medicine, the your'e definitely a person I can like... a lot. I saw one of
shows in Providence RI and it was totally totally incredible. I see that theyr'e
going to be somewhere in california on 10/20. If you don't know about this
band, CHECK THEM OUT! If you do know about them, then drop me a line. See
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:22:25 -0700
Apologies again, as I gave the wrong track listing of the
Beggar's Banquet single.
Bonnie and Clyde (version)
Thank You For Sending Me An Angel - Talking Heads cover
Bonnie and Clyde (version)
It is a UK import. A BBQ number.
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:58:54 -0700
The October 17th release date is false. The release date is January '96.
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:59:16 EDT
about the kendra smith collector cards, i have two sets of them somewhere in the
back of my car. they should still be in perfect condition, even though i did
move a couple of months ago. if anyone wants one, i can dig them out. by the
way, they are free; and please, only reply if you really want them, not because
you could get something for free.
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:27:54 -0500
Oct 4, 95 00:13:41 am
Good term, 'invisible ghosts'. There seems to be a prerequisite gripe
factor on lots of stuff here or it gets ignored. Two posts of mine
were completely bypassed :) as per usual. Catherine Wheel trivia and
the 4AD madlib...remember these? I await subsequent abuse, but hey,
I *heart* elitist-stomping :)
> On Tue, 3 Oct 1995,
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:01:53 EST
>Bedazzled is indeed shifting into high gear for the Fall. The new
>Mistle Thrush, Silt, came out the first week of September and will
>certainly be our biggest release to date. CMJ gave it a glowing review
>and Alternative Press has a profile article coming out in a month or
>two. MT is doing some touring this month stopping in Richmond, DC,
>Columbus, Pittsburgh, Detroit and a few others ... check our server for
I have the Mistle Thrush album, and I wholeheartedly endorse it. It's very
thislisty -- thoughtful, guitar-based alterna-pop w/female vocals, one
interesting percussion/noise-based song.
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:53:10 -0700
More about these cards (since hardly anyone's mentioned them):
They are somewhat larger than normal postcards, and are typical
Bruce Licher / Independent Project Press material, ie. letterpress.
They depict a variety of airships.
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:59:34 -0700
>Besides the wonderful Duino Elegies (that he wrote
>when was a guest in the castle of the German noble family
>Turn-und-Taxies (please, any German list member correct me!!!!)
Thurn und Taxis. Read Thomas Pynchon's hilarious novel "The Crying of Lot
49" for more info than you ever wanted to know about this family and how
they secretly control the world.
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:41:11 -0700
>dirt issue #69 with 'soil samples' split 7"
> featuring Tarantion "don't fancy me"
> and Liquorice "team player" both remixed
> by our pal Warren DeFever. Yellow vinyl.
>Liquorice "Cheap Cuts" 5 song promo CD with ESP
What songs are on the Liquorice promo? And how much are you asking for
these two items?
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 09:04:12 -0700
This isn't really thislisty, but should be real fun:
10/27 My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult w/ Eve's Plum and Traci Lords
Hollywood Grand, Hollywood and La Brea, Hollywood.
I'll be at this show...and hopefully the Luna one too if I can weasel
some tix outta my boss...
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:38:01 -0700
>about the kendra smith collector cards, i have two sets of them somewhere
>back of my car. they should still be in perfect condition, even though i did
>move a couple of months ago. if anyone wants one, i can dig them out. by the
>way, they are free; and please, only reply if you really want them, not because
>you could get something for free.
I'd be interested in these. The art is by v23, right?
Jake Reichert | I used to be indecisive/
email@example.com | But now I'm not so sure...
| -The The
"LONELY IS AS LONELY DOES"
B.C. Gilbert/G. Lewis ------------------------ The Happy Family
A=====================================V Bulgarian Voices | Pixies
| | | ____ | Bauhaus | Frazier Chorus
| /| | /\ | | \ | Michael Brook | Spirea X
| / | | / \ | | \ | The Breeders | Colourbox
| / | | / \ | | | | Dead Can Dance | Dif Juz
| /___| | /______\ | | | | Throwing Muses | The The
| | | / \ | | / | Clan of Xymox | Rema-Rema
| | | / \ | |___ / | Cocteau Twins | Liquorice
A=====================================M Lisa Germano | M|A|R|R|S
X Mal Deutschland | Dance Chapter | Insides | The Birthday Party
Ultra Vivid Scene | Unrest | Pieter Nooten/Michael Brook | Swallow
Modern English | Budd/Fraser/Guthrie/Raymonde | This Mortal Coil
The Wolfgang Press | Richenel | HIs Name Is Alive | Pale Saints
The Glee Club --------------------------------- Colin Newman
"LONELY IS AN EYESORE"
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 13:35:35 -0700
I enjoyed reading the reviews/descriptions of rhp shows that were posted
last week, mainly because I haven't yet seen them live myself. But I
haven't heard anything in a while. Is this "tour" still going on? And
does anyone know if it will ever LEAVE CALIFORNIA?! Come on mark, you've
stayed at home long enough. It's time to come up north to Seattle!
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 14:00:03 -0700
David Karevicius asks:
> Is anyone out there into the band MEDICINE? Because if you do like
>medicine, the your'e definitely a person I can like... a lot.
There was some major discussion here (a full-on flame war, in fact) of
Medicine in 1993, during which the band were compared by various people
to God or to Led Zeppelin.
More recently, there were some bad reviews of the new album, by people
disappointed by its relative lack of noise -- I myself just bought the
album this morning, and on first listen I like it more than I thought I
would based on the reviews. The quantity of distortion is less, but it's
still being used effectively, and the songs themselves are good.
Oh, and I'd watch out for deciding to like people based simply on their
musical tastes! I've met some real assholes who like a lot of the same
music I do, whereas some of my best friends aren't much interested in
music at all.
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 13:45:35 -0700
Here's a question that will look familiar to [someone] on the list. Not
a very important one, I'll admit. But I'm curious. What does everyone
think 4ad will do with the numbering system in 5 years? add another zero
perhaps? Maybe Ivo can ask the other Ivo this question if the two ever meet.
looking forward to another 4ad office story
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 14:08:47 -0700
is lisa gerrard on sale yet? and if so, how much are the tix?
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 21:32:29 -0400
Hi, if anyone wants to take this off my hands, email me (NOT the list)
It's a Sire promo with "Are You Experienced," three versions of "It's
Not Unusual" and three versions of "Full Moon Empty Heart"
Highest offer gets it, no minimum as long as it covers the envelope
"There's a very fine line between being artistic and being a dickhead"
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 22:02:42 -0400
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:23:33 -0700
I was gonna bring the cds along with me, but forgot, like a loser... I'll
go from memory as best I can:
BAD 5012: Scheer, Schism EP
This is a four song ep (the fourth track clocks in at 10:00 or so with an
extra little track at the end of some british guy reading a poem or
something). the first song is the song from "...think I'm getting the
hang of it", Sometimes? Yeah, I think that's the name. The second and
fourth songs are a lot like that, kinda grungy loud feedbacky wailing
guitars with female vocals. The third song is a pretty ballady song with
all of the guitar noise swept briskly away. Baby Size ... I think that's
the name of it. The artwork is really cool. A charcoal coloured
gatefold sleeve with gray stone-colored masks on each fold. It's really
neat...looks like you'd get your hands dirty just touching it.
CAD 5013: Mojave, Ask Me Tomorrow
Ok, well there's been many many posts about this already, let me just say
that I think it's beautiful music. A really nice Mazzy Star/Moon Seven
Times type of music (and yes, Slowdive's wall of sound has been
shattered). Love Songs on the Radio is still the prettiest song. This
is a promo, no artwork...
AD/BAD 5014: Air Miami, Fuck You, Tiger
An excellent ep. The remix of I Hate Milk is even better than the
original, if that's possible. Warm Miami May is also a really good
song. Afternoon Train (remix #3) is a short instrumental, and the last
song (the name escapes me) is nice, but kinda redundant. The art is
amazing. The 7" is all black with a little square in the center and a
picture of a tiger lying down. The cd5 is a full-size of the tiger
(front half on front, back half on back) on the black background.
Hey, did anyone notice that the red highlighted letters on the me. me.
me. booklet spell things? I've gotten, among other things "Definitely
bridget", "b.c."[several times], "Four a. d. ", "factory", and "i w r".
there's still a few I can't figure out... if anyone else has noticed
this, let me know what you've found...
BAD 5015 The Amps, tipp city.
For those of you who are music directors at radio stations or whatnot,
you've probably gotten this single from Elektra. The ep is three songs,
a whopping total of 6:00 for the entire thing. tipp city is a great
song, probably the best song on the ep, just like a briar is really good
too, and empty glasses (kim's basement 4 track version) is ANGRY. The
whole ep is really low-fi, but the songs are great. They're short, fast,
and GREAT to get you going in the morning (considering it only takes you
6 minutes to get going in the morning, that is).... The artwork is ok,
nothing impressive...but I love the green colour they use, and green is
FAR from being my favorite colour, so I suppose that's a plus.
anyway, this is far too long as it is...let's just say g'bye now, kay?
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:36:12 -0700
I saw a few things during my radio show that might interest someone.
Paula Frazer of Tarnation has a 7" that's been out since this summer
on Sunday Driver. The songs are "The Hand" "Is She Lonesome Now" and "Two
Wrongs Won't Make Things Right"
The most recent kranky cd is a self-titled release from Flies Inside the Sun, a
band from New Zealand (maybe Australia, I forget now.) The band includes some
guitar, bowed guitar, synth, bass, and drums. The track I heard was pretty
abstract, with percussive interjections, but generally quiet and sparse.
I played one track from the Bowery Electric cd, also on kranky, which was
pretty good; very slow washes of sound. I'll have to go back and listen to
these again. The worst part about doing a radio show is that you can't really
pay attention to the music.
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 20:15:32 -0700
On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Jens Alfke wrote:
> Thurn und Taxis. Read Thomas Pynchon's hilarious novel "The Crying of Lot
> 49" for more info than you ever wanted to know about this family and how
> they secretly control the world.
Heh, you just mananged to seriously confuse me for a sec. I am also
subscribed to the Thomas Pynchon mailing list but just joined here the
other day and seeing a TP-related post in the 4AD list threw me a bit. Of
course, one must consider that THEY could have covertly taken over this
list. Is there possibly an upcoming release by some band called The
He that we last as Thurn and Taxis knew | --o-<]
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