Subject: CD databases etc...
Subject: Re: Limited Muses
Subject: Re: highway robbery and CT
Subject: Re: Catherine Wheel
Subject: Re: luna*bonnie and clyde
Subject: A little tidbit on the LSD/F&D/TttS show....
Subject: Soft Cell
Subject: Blur, blur mailing list
Subject: Re: A little tidbit on the LSD/F&D/TttS show....
Subject: Re: seefeel 'starethrough'
Subject: Re: Legacy of the Smiths
Subject: Used CD update and address
Subject: Early 4AD albums
Subject: Re: Blur, blur how about some dates.
Subject: Re: 4AD 'ZINES (help!)
Subject: blur tour, mailing list...?????
Subject: Slowdive/mojave question
Subject: here's the blur list
Subject: Re: luna*bonnie and clyde
Subject: Re: blur tour, mailing list...?????
Subject: a little auction...
Subject: recent and upcoming releases '95....
Subject: Re: Minneapolis, Lisa Gerrard
Subject: Re: Minneapolis, Lisa Gerrard
Subject: Elysium tour dates
Subject: whoppers and dif juz
Subject: Re: here's the blur list
Subject: Hey you geeky audiofiles...
Subject: Re: luna*bonnie and clyde
Subject: Alanis/TM&TM/what's with Zach?
Subject: Lonely is an Eyesore ltd. ed. 4AD comp. avail.
Subject: Re: Elysium tour dates
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 15:24:01 PDT
I used to keep my collection in an Excel spreadsheet.... ( version 3 or
4 ? ) and have since moved it to a very cool Access database that I
designed one boring summer weekend. I like building my own apps because
I hate the overhead of whatever else is out there. If you have soft PC
or something for your MAC, you may be able to use my program.
IMHO, everyone on the same journey... make sure whatever application
you sink man/woman-hours entering your information into has a good CSV
or text file EXPORT capability !!! because there is nothing more
frustrating than having to re-enter data when you find a better program.
<< ARA >>
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 09:41:56 +0100
On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Grover Cleveland wrote:
> I wonder if any of you can tell me the benefit of having the TM
> _University_ limited edition as opposed to the standard release. I
> love the album, and the Lim. Ed. is on "sale" here for $26; what is
> inside (aside from the disc)?
> Thank-you.
> brian
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> bun
>
Not much,just a few disigns and stuff,it isn't really worth that
$26.
guy
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 09:54:55 -0700
> Re: highway robbery and CT
>
> The price was $12.99.
and, elsewhere...
> $10.99.
there's something seriously wrong on your side of the atlantic if you're
being charged this much. i bought a copy in virgin london on saturday for
3 pounds (although it'll be 4 pounds next week probably).
as for my thoughts on it the new version of pink, orange, red is curious
(in a good way) and the rest is pleasant enough but... i think the
ambient one (the mark seefeel mixed thing?) will be better (and,
hopefully, less expensive for you lot).
also picked up a 3 track us lush promo with bugs bunny on the back cover.
does anyone know what i'm talking about? is the first track on this
exclusive to the promo (i've not had a chance to compare it against the
other version). the other two tracks say explicitly 'album version'.
and finally, because somebody was asking a week or two ago and because
there are so many new names floating around at the mo, the 4ad catalogue
4ad, P.O. Box 3813, LONDON, SW18 1XE england.
1.50 pounds for catalogue plus 60p postage (england), 1.20 (europe), 2.00
(usa and canada), 2.20 (rest of the world)
cost of catalogue deductable from first order
all payment in pounds sterling and made payable to 4AD ltd.
visa and mastercard accepted.
andyx
([email protected])
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 10:29:24 +0100
Also, in the UK Catherine Wheels are sweets. Basically, they are long
strips of liquorice wrapped around a sugar coated jelly sweet.
An unbiased opinion:
My girlfriend reckons that Rilkean heart sounds as if they've gone for
a really commercial sound along the lines of Celine Dion. I must admit I
cringed when I first heard it. The CD gets better with each song although
its pretty lame. Now if they had released that music to the advert ....
Even if they did a three minute loop of it it would get loads of airplay.
I was somewhat surprised that in one of the largest UK cities all the
major record stores didn't have the ep. I had to go to an independent
store.
'H'y
'H' Cambridge
Stockholm Environment Institute at York
University of York, York, Uk.
Tel +44 1904 432992
Fax +44 1904 432898
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 10:51:45 +0100
Oct 1, 95 00:35:37 am
Kanga and lisaRoo Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 12:16:01 BST
1995 12:06:27 -0700
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 04:29:27 PDT
>Jens Rilke, er, Alfke: wrote:
>solo thing, though - not sure).
>Anyway, it features a female backing singer - it might have been a duet -
>and the only words from it that I remember are "See the stars they are
>bright tonight" sung over and over towards the end, followed by a trumpet
>bit. Vague, I know, but that's all I remember. Anyone know?
This would be Torch (A single, but non-album track - apart from the 2 singles
LP's)
Chris, cell-mate of Cindy Ecstacy (I wish)
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[email protected]
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:17:13 -0600
are any other madisonians planning on going to minneapolis to see blur? my
friend snagged me a comp ticket, but i'm looking to avoid bus fare, so if
anyone from around here (madison, wi) is planning on going, or if anyone is
travelling past madison on interstates 90 and 94, could you let me know?
also, what is the address of the blur mailing list? i'd like to send this
message over there as well.
thanks,
eric
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 11:32:30 PDT
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 11:00:28 -0700
Neil james asked:
>can anyone give me any scoop on 'starethrough' from Seefeel? is it a single,
>ep, or album? and was it released in the u.s. or just in europe?
It's an EP, about 20something minutes long, with four tracks:
Starethrough, Air-Eyes, Spangle, Lux 1. "Starethrough" is one of their
best ever, "Air-Eyes" is good, "Spangle" is really annoying, sounds like
a Casiotone, and unfortunately became much of the inspiration for
"Succour". "Lux 1" is very, very ambient and almost inaudible at times.
I don't believe it was ever released in the US. It's a UK release on
Warp. Shouldn't be hard to find at a store that carries imports. The
cover is almost entirely white except for the track information running
across the middle.
--Jens
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 12:18:28 -0700
>"i know im unloveable...you don't have to tell me."
>"...my life down i shal lie..."
>Does anyone agree that there is no one that had the same power as the
>Smiths? No one sounds like them either.
True. But I don't think either of them on their own (Morrissey or Marr) has
the power that they did combined. They just managed to have a winning
combination where the whole was _definitely_ greater than the sum of its parts.
Jake
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 11:41:21 -0500
First off, everyone keeps asking me the address to get on the Used CD list so
here it is:
[email protected]
Second, I just picked up a Sony CD Player for home this weekend from Best Buy
(it was the store demo) which plays...*100* CDs. (that's right, count
'em..100!) It cost me $300. Now, why in the hell does it cost like $1000+ for
a CD-ROM which plays multiple CDs, huh? Mechanical mechanisms follow different
laws of physics for computer CDs or something? What the hell is that?
marvynHortman (wondering how he ended up with a 100 CD drive when all he wanted
was a $129 player to replace his 8-yr. old Fisher.)
PS I've dealt with the [email protected] before so I can vouch that he's
a good guy; you take your chances with the rest.
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Aphex Twin Selected Ambient Works 2 (2-CD; domestic)
$13 ppd. 30-Sep-1995 [email protected]
Danielle Dax Jesus Egg That Wept (import)
$10 01-Oct-1995 [email protected]
Lush Split (stamped promo; all artwork intact)
$8 ppd. 30-Sep-1995 [email protected]
Pale Saints Slow Buildings (stamped promo; all artwork
intact)
$7 ppd. 30-Sep-1995 [email protected]
St. Etienne CD Tiger Bay
$9 26-Sep-1995 [email protected]
Wax Trax Records The First 13 Years (3-CD Box)
$35 01-Oct-1995 [email protected]
Wolfgang Press CD Going South [new, sealed cd5]
$4 26-Sep-1995 [email protected]
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:24:12 BST
<[email protected]>
Thom S. Heileson wrote:
>>>I believe that ME's 1st record, Mesh & Lace, was 4AD's very first album.
>>>Anyone?
>>
>>Off by miles, surely. I sorta think I should refer you to that online 4AD
>>catalogue, but I'm buggered if I can remember the URL.
>
>first, the URL: http://www.inow.com/~jens/Jens/4AD_FAQ.html
>
>But, I don't have access the the web here. I don't know if I'm off by miles
>or not; which artist do you think was 4AD's 1st?
I was sorta hoping someone else would answer Thom. According to eyesore,
the following albums were released before "Mesh and Lace":
Presages (various)
In The Flat Field (Bauhaus)
Prayers On Fire (Birthday Party)
Actually, the last one was immediately before "Mesh and Lace" in the
catalogue so I guess it's possible that it was actually released
afterwards.
Simon Hughes
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:09:55 -0700
does anyone have dates for this mini tour???? if so are they coming to
philly? thanks if any of you can help.
-robert.
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:03:00 +0100
I>My very first question for the list!!!
I>
I>I collect Zines and I was wondering, does anybody know of any other 4AD
I>related zines besides DEWDROPS and RIBBON?
Well, I'm doing a fanzine (a printed one) called BABY TALK - named
obviously after a song by Lush. The next issue (should be out at the
end of November) has interviews with Marion, Menswear, Mojave 3,
Tarnation, Guided By Voices, Helium and others. The interviews are
all written in English, the rest of the fanzine (reviews etc.) is
written in German. It's going to be the 6th issue and anyone who
wants some details on issues 1-5, just tell me and I'll post some
information off to you - but I'm only home on weekends, so you'll
have to wait sometime - sorry!
yours tired, but still "I got a letter the other day
optimistically paranoid, from this irate Wet Wet Wet
David fan, the first line of which
was 'Dear Bastard'. Which I
thought was a great opener."
- Jarvis Cocker, PULP
## CrossPoint v3.1 ##
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:31:55 -0400
all concerned parties
i too am anxious to get through to a blur mailing list...and would love to know
what their current tour schedule is...thanks in advance
i'd love to stay here and be normal
...but its just so overrated
-damon
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:41:45 -0400
I adore slowdive and i'm not really sure what's been happening with them
in the last few months. Why the name change?? When will a mojave album be
coming out?? Is it true they're moving towards a folkier, mazzy starr
type sound,(i hope they don't abandon their beautiful wall of guitar that
you can drown in sound of their first two albums) and how is their song on
that 4ad sampler??
Dave MacPherson
[email protected]
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:44:29 -0400
hey everyone
i realize it was only a short 5 minutes ago that i sent a request
post to you all, asking for the blur mailing list , well i got off my laxy ass
and looked at the cd booklet for great escape and sure enough...it's in there
for whoever asked for it and all others who want it:
[email protected] (for details)
peace all
bryan
(tracy jacks)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:55:48 -0700
You wrote:
>
>hiya kids.
>
>I'm a looking for this single on cd preferably, not vinyl
I checked with Twin CIties International, a mjor distributor and with a
big import music store, nothing on the computers or planned for Bonnie
and Clyde to be a single...anyone? euthelene
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:20:24 -0400
To get on the Blur list send the message "subscribe advert-l"
to [email protected]
I don't know the rest of the US dates offhand, but from this
point on I think they're all from the middle to the left side of the US.
They will be returning here in early '96 and I think they're
supposed to do a bigger tour that time.
-----
wendy
"There's a very fine line between being artistic and being a dickhead"
--Peter Hook
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:12:37 -0700
hey everyone!!
sorry to those of you who hate these auctions but to those of you who
are interested, i have a few items to auction off. please e-mail me
personally and i will e-mail you back personally so that i won't bug the
people on the list who hate auctions. well here it goes:
1.alvin lives (in leeds) compilation: (w/lush "chirpy chirpy cheep cheep",
robyn hitchcock, the wedding present, etc...) (clang/midnight music uk
import)
2.cocteau twins: bluebeard 1-track promo cd (capitol us)
3.cocteau twins: summerhead 1-track promo cd (capitol us)
4.cocteau twins: twinlights advance cassette (capitol us)
they are all in more or less perfect condition.
thanks!
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:46:44 -0700
I have them all and will post reviews if ya so wish when I have a chance
to give them all a good listen.
Ivo
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:59:54 -0500
Ah, I love personal mail to the list...sorry.
Anyone else going to the Minneapolis show?
aaron
[email protected]
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:54:18 -0500
Euthelene,
Hello...Just wanted to let you know that I'll be attending the Lisa
Gerrard show as well...should be an amazing experience. I managed to get 3rd
row tickets, but only because I called the Guthrie every day. They knew
nothing about the sho
w until the tickets actually went on sale. Ah, well. Do
you live in Minnesota? I'm going to school at Carleton College, but I'm
originally from Oregon. I miss the mountains... :) Talk to you soon...
Aaron
[email protected]
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:30:27 -0700
Dewdrops band Elysium is less than a week away from taking
their wonderful live show on their first ever tour. Their route
takes them to Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, Utah,
and back home to California. Be sure to go see them if they
come near your hometown. You won't be disappointed. The band
will have lots of their CD to sell at all shows.
Any questions / offers of places to crash / etc.
to Rodney
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:43:27 -0600
While swimming in a vat of mashed potatoes, Simon Hughes croaked:
--Ivo wrote:
--
-->Love Spirals Downwards: Wow. This made the whole night worth it. [...]
-->There was a really annoying guy who kept taking my picture who yelled out
-->several times "Whopper with Cheese!"
--
--A while back we had a thread about moshin' and how it ruined gigs. Dunno
--why, but the thing that really pisses me off most at gigs is people like
--this "Whopper" person. People who shout the same (meant to be funny?)
--thing over and over.
hey, when i saw o+ and the mighty mighty bosstones at my high school
(phillips academy andover, andover, ma) in '92, i managed to survive half
the show right behind some *huge* guy with a burger king crown on (i could
have stood in front of him but i didn't want to be in the very front and
have my body mangled by the force of the crowd against the stage.) when he
introduced himself he said 'just call me the whopper.' what a coincidink!
(when i was in houston), i was listening to the blue day ep and right as i
drove up to the apartment gate the ep ended and i forgot i added dif juz to
the end of the tape. i just sat at the gate, smoking a cig, listening to
the beautiful music, and watching the sun rise. *sigh* does anyone know
where i can find their beautiful stuff? then as soon as the tape ended,
someone drove up and opened the gate so i didn't have to call and wake up
my dear mum. what a pleasant morning :)
.j.
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[email protected]
andover '94
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'Today's all-American boy eats both Mom's apple pie and the girl next door.'
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...in the afterlife, everyone plays guitar...
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 19:23:22 -0400
On Mon, 2 Oct 1995 [email protected] wrote:
> i realize it was only a short 5 minutes ago that i sent a request
> post to you all, asking for the blur mailing list , well i got off my laxy ass
> and looked at the cd booklet for great escape and sure enough...it's in there
> for whoever asked for it and all others who want it:
> [email protected] (for details)
That's the old address. Apparently it still works, but it's supposed
to disappear soon.
-----
wendy
"There's a very fine line between being artistic and being a dickhead"
--Peter Hook
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:28:13 EDT
[email protected] writes:
>I got a question for you:
>
>Is anyone on this list using any CD tracking applications on your computers?
Well, I guess this could be an opportunity to plug Microsoft Access and my Web
site at the same time. About two months ago I announced the Web database I've
been working on, which contains quite a lot of "this-listy" stuff. All the
data is maintained in Access, and almost every HTML page is generated by a
little Windows program using ODBC. One of the pages ("Technical Info") even
shows you the database diagram so you can see how the tables are linked
together. From the main index page you'll see a category list; I suspect 4AD-L
readers will be most interested in the one I call "Atmospheric". I'd also love
to hear from anybody that wants to help me with updates and/or missing items.
Here it is:
--
Ed Klein
[email protected]
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:53:09 -0700
On Mon, 2 Oct 1995, Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh wrote:
>
> I checked with Twin CIties International, a mjor distributor and with a
> big import music store, nothing on the computers or planned for Bonnie
> and Clyde to be a single...anyone? euthelene
It was one of the 2 b-sides to the first single (whose name escapes me at
the moment) that was released about 2 weeks before the album was
released. There was another song on that too... 24 hours or 24 days or
something??? Think it was all album tracks, but I think there was an
import version of the single that wasn't... I think I think I think... I
should stop thinking so much....
Ivo
(who exchanged smiles with someone that he thinks was Lisa Germano at the
4AD office today as she was coming out of the restroom, but was too shy
to ask...)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 19:23:27 -0400
>ps - I heard alannis morissette was an actress on canada's you can't do that on
>television. I was just wondering if anybody knew which one she was? the only
>girl I really remember is "christine".... go fig.
I don't know about that, but I *can* tell you that she used to be a really
awful 17-year-old Paula Abdul/Tiffany type Top 40/dance arteeste...until she
suddenly, conveniently and commerciallyviably went Alternative(tm) - I can't
decide which of her careers is worse
>By the way, Ive heard various people report that The Moon and the Melodies
>is really hard to find, or out of print. As far as I know, this just
>isn't true.
Since the words "Cocteau Twins" don't actually appear on the cover, it's not
unusual to find it filed under Harold Budd.
>does anyone else get the feeling that zach
>is talking to random ghosts?? make sure when you
>respond to the person instead of the whole list
>or include what you are responding to... i know
>this is confusing somebody!! why isnt anyone saying
>anything!! im so alone...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No, you're not. I think that Zach either has some kind of multiple
personality disorder, or lots of different people are using his e-mail
address, or he hasn't quite figured out the difference between replying to
individuals and replying to the list...
Larry