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Subject: CD databases etc...
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 15:24:01 PDT
From: Ara Kermanikian (araker@MICROSOFT.COM)
Subject: Re: Limited Muses
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 09:41:56 +0100
From: Guy Vandekerckhove (Guy.Vandekerckhove@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: Re: highway robbery and CT
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 09:54:55 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Catherine Wheel
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 10:29:24 +0100
From: "'H'y" (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: luna*bonnie and clyde
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 10:51:45 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: A little tidbit on the LSD/F&D/TttS show....
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 12:16:01 BST
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: Soft Cell
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 04:29:27 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Blur, blur mailing list
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:17:13 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: A little tidbit on the LSD/F&D/TttS show....
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 11:32:30 PDT
From: brandon krueger (VDU00537@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: seefeel 'starethrough'
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 11:00:28 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: Legacy of the Smiths
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 12:18:28 -0700
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Used CD update and address
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 11:41:21 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Early 4AD albums
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:24:12 BST
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: Blur, blur how about some dates.
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:09:55 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: 4AD 'ZINES (help!)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:03:00 +0100
From: David Bluhm (dabl@KEY.GUN.DE)
Subject: blur tour, mailing list...?????
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:31:55 -0400
From: NWND@GROVE.IUP.EDU
Subject: Slowdive/mojave question
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:41:45 -0400
From: "D.P. Mac pherson" (u9303494@MUSS.CIS.MCMASTER.CA)
Subject: here's the blur list
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:44:29 -0400
From: NWND@GROVE.IUP.EDU
Subject: Re: luna*bonnie and clyde
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:55:48 -0700
From: Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: blur tour, mailing list...?????
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:20:24 -0400
From: wendy lyon (wlyon@DELPHI.UMD.EDU)
Subject: a little auction...
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:12:37 -0700
From: lushmuse (eahu597@EA.OAC.UCI.EDU)
Subject: recent and upcoming releases '95....
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:46:44 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Minneapolis, Lisa Gerrard
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:59:54 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Minneapolis, Lisa Gerrard
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:54:18 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Elysium tour dates
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:30:27 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: whoppers and dif juz
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:43:27 -0600
From: kid sunshine (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: here's the blur list
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 19:23:22 -0400
From: wendy lyon (wlyon@DELPHI.UMD.EDU)
Subject: Hey you geeky audiofiles...
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:28:13 EDT
From: Ed Klein/emotion (Ed_Klein/emotion.EMOTION@EMOTION.COM)
Subject: Re: luna*bonnie and clyde
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:53:09 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Alanis/TM&TM/what's with Zach?
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 19:23:27 -0400
From: how much longer must we tolerate mass culture?
Subject: Lonely is an Eyesore ltd. ed. 4AD comp. avail.
Date: 2 OCT 1995 13:01:26 GMT
From: Bivins (biv@ix.netcom.com)
Subject: Re: Elysium tour dates
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 21:26:59 -0600
From: mesocyclone (soon@UNM.EDU)

Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 15:24:01 PDT
From: Ara Kermanikian (araker@MICROSOFT.COM)
Subject: CD databases etc...


I used to keep my collection in an Excel spreadsheet.... ( version 3 or
4 ? ) and have since moved it to a very cool Access database that I
designed one boring summer weekend. I like building my own apps because
I hate the overhead of whatever else is out there. If you have soft PC
or something for your MAC, you may be able to use my program.

IMHO, everyone on the same journey... make sure whatever application
you sink man/woman-hours entering your information into has a good CSV
or text file EXPORT capability !!! because there is nothing more
frustrating than having to re-enter data when you find a better program.

<< ARA >>


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 09:41:56 +0100
From: Guy Vandekerckhove (Guy.Vandekerckhove@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: Re: Limited Muses


On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Grover Cleveland wrote:

>     I wonder if any of you can tell me the benefit of having the TM
> _University_ limited edition as opposed to the standard release. I
> love the album, and the Lim. Ed. is on "sale" here for $26; what is
> inside (aside from the disc)?
>     Thank-you.
>     brian
>     bwilliam@fogelson.csf.edu
>
>
>
> bun
>
Not much,just a few disigns and stuff,it isn't really worth that
$26.

guy

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 09:54:55 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: highway robbery and CT


> Re: highway robbery and CT
>
> The price was $12.99.
and, elsewhere...
> $10.99.

there's something seriously wrong on your side of the atlantic if you're
being charged this much. i bought a copy in virgin london on saturday for
3 pounds (although it'll be 4 pounds next week probably).

as for my thoughts on it the new version of pink, orange, red is curious
(in a good way) and the rest is pleasant enough but... i think the
ambient one (the mark seefeel mixed thing?) will be better (and,
hopefully, less expensive for you lot).

also picked up a 3 track us lush promo with bugs bunny on the back cover.
does anyone know what i'm talking about? is the first track on this
exclusive to the promo (i've not had a chance to compare it against the
other version). the other two tracks say explicitly 'album version'.

and finally, because somebody was asking a week or two ago and because
there are so many new names floating around at the mo, the 4ad catalogue
4ad, P.O. Box 3813, LONDON, SW18 1XE england.
1.50 pounds for catalogue plus 60p postage (england), 1.20 (europe), 2.00
(usa and canada), 2.20 (rest of the world)
cost of catalogue deductable from first order
all payment in pounds sterling and made payable to 4AD ltd.
visa and mastercard accepted.

andyx
(a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 10:29:24 +0100
From: "'H'y" (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Catherine Wheel


Also, in the UK Catherine Wheels are sweets. Basically, they are long
strips of liquorice wrapped around a sugar coated jelly sweet.

An unbiased opinion:
My girlfriend reckons that Rilkean heart sounds as if they've gone for
 a really commercial sound along the lines of Celine Dion. I must admit I
cringed when I first heard it. The CD gets better with each song although
its pretty lame. Now if they had released that music to the advert ....
Even if they did a three minute loop of it it would get loads of airplay.
I was somewhat surprised that in one of the largest UK cities all the
major record stores didn't have the ep. I had to go to an independent
store.

'H'y

 'H' Cambridge

Stockholm Environment Institute at York
University of York, York, Uk.
Tel +44 1904 432992
Fax +44 1904 432898


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 10:51:45 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: luna*bonnie and clyde

              Oct 1, 95 00:35:37 am

Kanga and lisaRoo  wrote:
 >
 > I'm a looking for this single on cd preferably, not vinyl, and
 > also a copy of the amorphous body study centre for a friend of
 > mine. any body seen either of these or have any info on them?  I
 > personally have the amorphous body study thingamajig, but I was
 > wondering if it was printed in a limited ed. or something like
 > that...

The amorphous body thing was a fairly small limited edition, which
disappeared from the shops in the UK in a couple of weeks - I think it
was something like 5000 for the UK, 1000 for export, those sorts of
numbers anyway.  You are probably going to have to pay inflated
collectors prices to get hold of a copy now.

The new Luna album (see below) is really rather good - not a patch on
Galaxie 500, but better than either of the previous albums (especially
"Bewitched", which has one great song at the start and then a load of
filler).  Still basically straightforward pop, but Dean has recaptured
some of that late-night G500 atmosphere.  As far as the "Bonnie and
Clyde" single goes, I can't say where an American might find it, but I
can say it's probably not worth paying much for - "Chinatown" is
straight off the album, the first version of B&C is quite good, the
second version is hidden at the end of my copy of "Penthouse", at least,
and the fourth track is a short David Byrne cover.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 02/10/95
On my walkman this morning : Luna - Penthouse
Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain;


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 12:16:01 BST
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: A little tidbit on the LSD/F&D/TttS show....

              1995 12:06:27 -0700
              

Ivo wrote:

>Love Spirals Downwards:  Wow.  This made the whole night worth it.  [...]
>There was a really annoying guy who kept taking my picture who yelled out
>several times "Whopper with Cheese!"

A while back we had a thread about moshin' and how it ruined gigs.  Dunno
why, but the thing that really pisses me off most at gigs is people like
this "Whopper" person.  People who shout the same (meant to be funny?)
thing over and over.

>"I'll fuck you up the ass...just for a laugh..."

So which Projekt band is this?

Simon Hughes

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 04:29:27 PDT
From: Chris_Ayres.JNB01@INTL.RX.XEROX.COM
Subject: Soft Cell


>Jens Rilke, er, Alfke: wrote:


>solo thing, though - not sure).
>Anyway, it features a female backing singer - it might have been a duet -
>and the only words from it that I remember are "See the stars they are
>bright tonight" sung over and over towards the end, followed by a trumpet
>bit. Vague, I know, but that's all I remember. Anyone know?

This would be Torch (A single, but non-album track - apart from the 2 singles
LP's)



Chris, cell-mate of Cindy Ecstacy (I wish)



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris_Ayres.JNB01@intl.rx.xerox.co

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:17:13 -0600
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Blur, blur mailing list


are any other madisonians planning on going to minneapolis to see blur?  my
friend snagged me a comp ticket, but i'm looking to avoid bus fare, so if
anyone from around here (madison, wi) is planning on going, or if anyone is
travelling past madison on interstates 90 and 94, could you let me know?

also, what is the address of the blur mailing list?  i'd like to send this
message over there as well.

thanks,

eric


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 11:32:30 PDT
From: brandon krueger (VDU00537@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: A little tidbit on the LSD/F&D/TttS show....

              

Not speaking of the lsd show, for i was a little far away to be there----
but.....
about "i'll fuck you up the ass, just for a laugh"...
I think those are Tricky lyrics if i'm not mistaken

I'm just curious, since i just hooked up to this list, did someone ask about
those lyrics before or was it just  a random thought...not som



Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 11:00:28 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@MOOSEYARD.COM)
Subject: Re: seefeel 'starethrough'


Neil james asked:
>can anyone give me any scoop on 'starethrough' from Seefeel?  is it a single,
>ep, or album?  and was it released in the u.s. or just in europe?

It's an EP, about 20something minutes long, with four tracks:
Starethrough, Air-Eyes, Spangle, Lux 1. "Starethrough" is one of their
best ever, "Air-Eyes" is good, "Spangle" is really annoying, sounds like
a Casiotone, and unfortunately became much of the inspiration for
"Succour". "Lux 1" is very, very ambient and almost inaudible at times.

I don't believe it was ever released in the US. It's a UK release on
Warp. Shouldn't be hard to find at a store that carries imports. The
cover is almost entirely white except for the track information running
across the middle.

--Jens

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 12:18:28 -0700
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Legacy of the Smiths


>"i know im unloveable...you don't have to tell me."
>"...my life down i shal lie..."
>Does anyone agree that there is no one that had the same power as the
>Smiths? No one sounds like them either.

True.  But I don't think either of them on their own (Morrissey or Marr) has
the power that they did combined.  They just managed to have a winning
combination where the whole was _definitely_ greater than the sum of its parts.

Jake

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 11:41:21 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Used CD update and address


First off, everyone keeps asking me the address to get on the Used CD list so
here it is:

used-music-server@wang.com

Second, I just picked up a Sony CD Player for home this weekend from Best Buy
(it was the store demo) which plays...*100* CDs.  (that's right, count
'em..100!)  It cost me $300.  Now, why in the hell does it cost like $1000+ for
a CD-ROM which plays multiple CDs, huh?  Mechanical mechanisms follow different
laws of physics for computer CDs or something?  What the hell is that?


marvynHortman (wondering how he ended up with a 100 CD drive when all he wanted
was a $129 player to replace his 8-yr. old Fisher.)

PS I've dealt with the angst@psych.colorado.edu before so I can vouch that he's
a good guy; you take your chances with the rest.



-------------------cut here--------------------

Aphex Twin                          Selected Ambient Works 2 (2-CD; domestic)
         $13 ppd.      30-Sep-1995 angst@psych.colorado.edu

Danielle Dax                        Jesus Egg That Wept (import)
         $10           01-Oct-1995 hark@u.washington.edu

Lush                                Split (stamped promo; all artwork intact)
         $8 ppd.       30-Sep-1995 angst@psych.colorado.edu

Pale Saints                         Slow Buildings (stamped promo; all artwork
                                    intact)
         $7 ppd.       30-Sep-1995 angst@psych.colorado.edu

St. Etienne              CD         Tiger Bay
         $9            26-Sep-1995 emorris@pacifier.com

Wax Trax Records                    The First 13 Years (3-CD Box)
         $35           01-Oct-1995 hark@u.washington.edu

Wolfgang Press           CD         Going South [new, sealed cd5]
         $4            26-Sep-1995 emorris@pacifier.com

-------------------cut here--------------------

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:24:12 BST
From: Simon Hughes (tcssph@AIE.LREG.CO.UK)
Subject: Early 4AD albums

              <9509290033.AA23979@dsfmail.ghc.org>

Thom S. Heileson wrote:

>>>I believe that ME's 1st record, Mesh & Lace, was 4AD's very first album.
>>>Anyone?
>>
>>Off by miles, surely.  I sorta think I should refer you to that online 4AD
>>catalogue, but I'm buggered if I can remember the URL.
>
>first, the URL: http://www.inow.com/~jens/Jens/4AD_FAQ.html
>
>But, I don't have access the the web here. I don't know if I'm off by miles
>or not; which artist do you think was 4AD's 1st?

I was sorta hoping someone else would answer Thom.  According to eyesore,
the following albums were released before "Mesh and Lace":

Presages (various)
In The Flat Field (Bauhaus)
Prayers On Fire (Birthday Party)

Actually, the last one was immediately before "Mesh and Lace" in the
catalogue so I guess it's possible that it was actually released
afterwards.

Simon Hughes


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:09:55 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Blur, blur how about some dates.


does anyone have dates for this mini tour???? if so are they coming to
philly? thanks if any of you can help.



                    -robert.

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:03:00 +0100
From: David Bluhm (dabl@KEY.GUN.DE)
Subject: Re: 4AD 'ZINES (help!)



I>My very first question for the list!!!
I>
I>I collect Zines and I was wondering, does anybody know of any other 4AD
I>related zines besides DEWDROPS and RIBBON?
Well, I'm doing a fanzine (a printed one) called BABY TALK - named
obviously after a song by Lush. The next issue (should be out at the
end of November) has interviews with Marion, Menswear, Mojave 3,
Tarnation, Guided By Voices, Helium and others. The interviews are
all written in English, the rest of the fanzine (reviews etc.) is
written in German. It's going to be the 6th issue and anyone who
wants some details on issues 1-5, just tell me and I'll post some
information off to you - but I'm only home on weekends, so you'll
have to wait sometime - sorry!


yours tired, but still                 "I got a letter the other day
optimistically paranoid,                from this irate Wet Wet Wet
                      David             fan, the first line of which
                                        was 'Dear Bastard'. Which I
                                        thought was a great opener."
                                                - Jarvis Cocker, PULP


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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:31:55 -0400
From: NWND@GROVE.IUP.EDU
Subject: blur tour, mailing list...?????


all concerned parties

i too am anxious to get through to a blur mailing list...and would love to know
what their current tour schedule is...thanks in advance


i'd love to stay here and be normal
...but its just so overrated
                           -damon


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:41:45 -0400
From: "D.P. Mac pherson" (u9303494@MUSS.CIS.MCMASTER.CA)
Subject: Slowdive/mojave question


I adore slowdive and i'm not really sure what's been happening with them
in the last few months. Why the name change?? When will a mojave album be
coming out?? Is it true they're moving towards a folkier, mazzy starr
type sound,(i hope they don't abandon their beautiful wall of guitar that
you can drown in sound of their first two albums) and how is their song on
that 4ad sampler??

Dave MacPherson
u9303494@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:44:29 -0400
From: NWND@GROVE.IUP.EDU
Subject: here's the blur list


hey everyone

             i realize it was only a short 5 minutes ago that i sent a request
post to you all, asking for the blur mailing list , well i got off my laxy ass
and looked at the cd booklet for great escape and sure enough...it's in there
for whoever asked for it and all others who want it:
advert-l-request@netcom.com  (for details)


peace all

bryan
(tracy jacks)


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:55:48 -0700
From: Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: luna*bonnie and clyde


You wrote:
>
>hiya kids.
>
>I'm a looking for this single on cd preferably, not vinyl

I checked with Twin CIties International, a mjor distributor and with a
big import music store, nothing on the computers or planned for Bonnie
and Clyde to be a single...anyone?  euthelene

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:20:24 -0400
From: wendy lyon (wlyon@DELPHI.UMD.EDU)
Subject: Re: blur tour, mailing list...?????


To get on the Blur list send the message "subscribe advert-l"
to majordomo@desire.com

I don't know the rest of the US dates offhand, but from this
point on I think they're all from the middle to the left side of the US.
They will be returning here in early '96 and I think they're
supposed to do a bigger tour that time.
-----
wendy

"There's a very fine line between being artistic and being a dickhead"
                                                         --Peter Hook

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:12:37 -0700
From: lushmuse (eahu597@EA.OAC.UCI.EDU)
Subject: a little auction...


hey everyone!!

sorry to those of you who hate these auctions but to those of you who
are interested, i have a few items to auction off.  please e-mail me
personally and i will e-mail you back personally so that i won't bug the
people on the list who hate auctions.  well here it goes:

1.alvin lives (in leeds) compilation: (w/lush "chirpy chirpy cheep cheep",
robyn hitchcock, the wedding present, etc...) (clang/midnight music uk
import)
2.cocteau twins: bluebeard 1-track promo cd (capitol us)
3.cocteau twins: summerhead 1-track promo cd (capitol us)
4.cocteau twins: twinlights advance cassette (capitol us)

they are all in more or less perfect condition.

thanks!

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:46:44 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: recent and upcoming releases '95....




I have them all and will post reviews if ya so wish when I have a chance
to give them all a good listen.

Ivo


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:59:54 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Minneapolis, Lisa Gerrard


Ah, I love personal mail to the list...sorry.

Anyone else going to the Minneapolis show?

aaron

declerca@carleton.edu


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:54:18 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Minneapolis, Lisa Gerrard


Euthelene,

        Hello...Just wanted to let you know that I'll be attending the Lisa
Gerrard show as well...should be an amazing experience.  I managed to get 3rd
row tickets, but only because I called the Guthrie every day.  They knew
nothing about the sho
w until the tickets actually went on sale.  Ah, well.  Do
you live in Minnesota?  I'm going to school at Carleton College, but I'm
originally from Oregon.  I miss the mountains...  :)  Talk to you soon...

Aaron

declerca@carleton.edu

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:30:27 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Elysium tour dates


Dewdrops band Elysium is less than a week away from taking
their wonderful live show on their first ever tour. Their route
takes them to Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, Utah,
and back home to California. Be sure to go see them if they
come near your hometown. You won't be disappointed. The band
will have lots of their CD to sell at all shows.

Any questions / offers of places to crash / etc.
to Rodney  or Brant 
phones     213-812-6795                  310-477-8551

Also check out our web page at

Elysium Tour Dates
------------------
Sat.Oct.7th - Las Vegas @ The Enigma Cafe 918 1/2 s. 4th Street

Sun.Oct.8th -  Phoenix / Mesa - Hollywood Alley w/ Allison's Halo

Mon.Oct.9th - Tuscon @ Downton Performance Center - 31 E. Toole Ave

Tue.Oct.10th - El Paso @ Saso's Lounge - 9565 Dyer

Wed.Oct.11th - San Antonio @ Coffee Gallery - 203 E. Commerce

Thur.Oct.12th - Austin @ TBA

Fri.Oct.13th - Austin @ Ruta Maya - 218 West 4th Street

Sat.Oct.14th - Tulsa @ the Xenophon - 20 E. Brady

Sun.Oct.15th - off

Mon.Oct.16th - Ft. Collins @ Tony's - address to follow

Tues.Oct.17th - Denver @ Cricket on the Hill - 1209 E. 13th Street

Wed.Oct.18th - Provo @ The Holly Cow (to be confirmed)

Thurs.Oct.19th - Salt Lake City - TBA

Fri.Oct.20th - Off

Sat.Oct.21st - San Francisco/Berkely @ TBA

Mon.Nov.6th - The Whisky in Hollywood - FREE!!!

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:43:27 -0600
From: kid sunshine (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: whoppers and dif juz


While swimming in a vat of mashed potatoes, Simon Hughes croaked:
--Ivo wrote:
--
-->Love Spirals Downwards:  Wow.  This made the whole night worth it.  [...]
-->There was a really annoying guy who kept taking my picture who yelled out
-->several times "Whopper with Cheese!"
--
--A while back we had a thread about moshin' and how it ruined gigs.  Dunno
--why, but the thing that really pisses me off most at gigs is people like
--this "Whopper" person.  People who shout the same (meant to be funny?)
--thing over and over.

hey, when i saw o+ and the mighty mighty bosstones at my high school
(phillips academy andover, andover, ma) in '92, i managed to survive half
the show right behind some *huge* guy with a burger king crown on (i could
have stood in front of him but i didn't want to be in the very front and
have my body mangled by the force of the crowd against the stage.) when he
introduced himself he said 'just call me the whopper.' what a coincidink!

(when i was in houston), i was listening to the blue day ep and right as i
drove up to the apartment gate the ep ended and i forgot i added dif juz to
the end of the tape. i just sat at the gate, smoking a cig, listening to
the beautiful music, and watching the sun rise. *sigh* does anyone know
where i can find their beautiful stuff? then as soon as the tape ended,
someone drove up and opened the gate so i didn't have to call and wake up
my dear mum. what a pleasant morning :)
.j.

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joroses@mail.utexas.edu
andover '94
-
'Today's all-American boy eats both Mom's apple pie and the girl next door.'
-
...in the afterlife, everyone plays guitar...
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 19:23:22 -0400
From: wendy lyon (wlyon@DELPHI.UMD.EDU)
Subject: Re: here's the blur list


On Mon, 2 Oct 1995 NWND@GROVE.IUP.EDU wrote:

>              i realize it was only a short 5 minutes ago that i sent a request
> post to you all, asking for the blur mailing list , well i got off my laxy ass
> and looked at the cd booklet for great escape and sure enough...it's in there
> for whoever asked for it and all others who want it:
> advert-l-request@netcom.com  (for details)

That's the old address.  Apparently it still works, but it's supposed
to disappear soon.
-----
wendy

"There's a very fine line between being artistic and being a dickhead"
                                                         --Peter Hook

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:28:13 EDT
From: Ed Klein/emotion (Ed_Klein/emotion.EMOTION@EMOTION.COM)
Subject: Hey you geeky audiofiles...


hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US writes:

>I got a question for you:
>
>Is anyone on this list using any CD tracking applications on your computers?

Well, I guess this could be an opportunity to plug Microsoft Access and my Web
site at the same time.  About two months ago I announced the Web database I've
been working on, which contains quite a lot of "this-listy" stuff.  All the
data is maintained in Access, and almost every HTML page is generated by a
little Windows program using ODBC.  One of the pages ("Technical Info") even
shows you the database diagram so you can see how the tables are linked
together.  From the main index page you'll see a category list; I suspect 4AD-L
readers will be most interested in the one I call "Atmospheric".  I'd also love
to hear from anybody that wants to help me with updates and/or missing items.

Here it is:

--
Ed Klein
eklein@kzsu.stanford.edu


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:53:09 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: luna*bonnie and clyde


On Mon, 2 Oct 1995, Sharkless girl a/k/a Kayleigh wrote:

>
> I checked with Twin CIties International, a mjor distributor and with a
> big import music store, nothing on the computers or planned for Bonnie
> and Clyde to be a single...anyone?  euthelene


It was one of the 2 b-sides to the first single (whose name escapes me at
the moment) that was released about 2 weeks before the album was
released.  There was another song on that too... 24 hours or 24 days or
something???  Think it was all album tracks, but I think there was an
import version of the single that wasn't... I think I think I think... I
should stop thinking so much....


Ivo
(who exchanged smiles with someone that he thinks was Lisa Germano at the
4AD office today as she was coming out of the restroom, but was too shy
to ask...)

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 19:23:27 -0400
From: how much longer must we tolerate mass culture?
Subject: Alanis/TM&TM/what's with Zach?


>ps - I heard alannis morissette was an actress on canada's you can't do that on
>television. I was just wondering if anybody knew which one she was? the only
>girl I really remember is "christine".... go fig.

I don't know about that, but I *can* tell you that she used to be a really
awful 17-year-old Paula Abdul/Tiffany type Top 40/dance arteeste...until she
suddenly, conveniently and commerciallyviably went Alternative(tm) - I can't
decide which of her careers is worse

>By the way, Ive heard various people report that The Moon and the Melodies
>is really hard to find, or out of print. As far as I know, this just
>isn't true.

Since the words "Cocteau Twins" don't actually appear on the cover, it's not
unusual to find it filed under Harold Budd.

>does anyone else get the feeling that zach
>is talking to random ghosts?? make sure when you
>respond to the person instead of the whole list
>or include what you are responding to... i know
>this is confusing somebody!! why isnt anyone saying
>anything!! im so alone...
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No, you're not. I think that Zach either has some kind of multiple
personality disorder, or lots of different people are using his e-mail
address, or he hasn't quite figured out the difference between replying to
individuals and replying to the list...

Larry


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 23:08:10 -0400
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Lonely is an Eyesore ltd. ed. 4AD comp. avail. (fwd)


Whoa!

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Date: 2 OCT 1995 13:01:26 GMT
From: Bivins (biv@ix.netcom.com)
Subject: Lonely is an Eyesore ltd. ed. 4AD comp. avail.


Lonely is an Eyesore limited edition (box) 4AD label compilation
Sleeve NM, vinyl never played (but placed in anti-static sleeve)
entertaining offers

David Bivins
biv@ix.netcom.com

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 21:26:59 -0600
From: mesocyclone (soon@UNM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Elysium tour dates

          nelson@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu

  Of course they aren't playing in New Mexico, even though they have to
drive THROUGH it to get to Texas and Oklahoma!  Damn!

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