Subject: alt.music.4ad.cocteau-twins
Subject: Re: AIRMIAMIPEANUTS:you people are weird! :)
Subject: Re: Whoops!
Subject: Cocteau remixes by Seefeel
Subject: Volume www site
Subject: Red House Painters/4AD
Subject: Liquorice
Subject: Re: 4ad release UK schedule
Subject: Re: Cocteau remixes by Seefeel
Subject: Re: tarnation shows
Subject: Cocteau Twins News...
Subject: Re: alt.music.4ad.cocteau-twins
Subject: Re: tarnation shows
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins News...
Subject: Re: I heard about the Mojave Album on the rajio
Subject: Pygmalion
Subject: Medicine/Long Fin Killie/Sixteen Deluxe
Subject: Re: Bad News
Subject: Bad News
Subject: Re: alt.music.4ad.cocteau-twins
Subject: Re: alt.music.4ad.cocteau-twins
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 22:01:42 -0700
(Just in case anyone was uncertain of what it ought to be called.)
of thing as long as it is alt.hierarchy.stuff we are talking about. So if
everyone wants this newsgroup I can newgroup it if no one else can.
under the 4AD hierarchy; then people will see it coming from either
direction but it won't take away from the 4AD whatzit since most of the
important stuff will be crossposted. (For this same reason I think a new
mailing list would be a *really* bad idea.)
einexile, semi-officially a closet alt.config nerd
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 21:18:40 -0700
On Thu, 14 Sep 1995, .bigloveeyes. wrote:
> i can't believe i got so many requests for those airmiami peanuts. what
> do you people do with these things????
They're suppositories.
> as i got so many requests i'm not really sure what to do with them.
Give them to me. I already have so much Unrest stuff I don't have any use
for, I might as well have some Air Miami stuff I have no use for too.
That is, after all, in the spirit of the band's music. :)
> tempted to just open them up and eat them....but i don't trust 4ad or
> mark robinson....they might be poisoned. maybe i should open them up then
> cut the package into tiny pieces. then i'll send each one of you a single
> peanut with a piece of the stickered package taped to it. how's that
> sound?
I think it sounds mean! :~o
> i think i'll make you sillies work for this.....i want long, well written
> messages (prose or poetry) explaining why you should have these peanuts.
I should have these peanuts as mu just rewards for writing the best poem
about a peanut ever to grace this listserv!
free shit
(by einexile)
one day alas it came to pass
i'd tossed me snack up in the sky
and when came down, i stumbled me for'rd
an' there it fell right in me orb!
this dumb old man, he sittin there,
he gets up and he stumbles here:
a sailor man with a big fat hat
and a stinky pipe and an idiot grin:
"son ye've got a problem son;
ye got a peanut in yer eye!
my my my," the fossil grumbled
and doddered he away so that
i seen him no more then, but hey,
it wasn't all that bad a day;
silly fuck, he left his hat. :)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 10:33:45 +0000
> Sourpuss and Belinda Backwards. I think that the singer's voice ruined
> Sourpuss for me, and I haven't listened to Belinda Backwards very much.
> It's not that bad. I just expected soft, dark, moody music featuring
> Chris's piano playing ability.
Who could resists the pussy cat with the wings on the cover of
"Sourpuss". The other, earlier, LPs are "Songs of Praise" (1986) and
"Blowtorch" (1988). Both of them are (or perhaps were would be more
correct) on Further Records. Probably through Blast First? I really
like her voice, though its not much in evidence on the earlier stuff.
I was initially uneasy with the BEAR single because of the woman singing on
that, but I really like it now. Voices are a thing with me, one I
don't like can ruin a perfectly good band. By the way who are Bardo
Pond (other side of the BEAR single) and what do they sound like when
not recorded through a dishclothe in someone's front room?
>Once I get over my initial disappointment,
> I should warm up to them. Who are Dust Devils and Kilgore Trout?
All three bands seem to be fairly close arising from some grim South
Yorkshire city. I saw the Dust Devils supporting the Swans, as I did
AC Temple for the first time on the Swans' previous tour. I only ever
found one twelve inch "The Dropping Well" Rouska (?) 1987. I haven't
really looked for a few years. Kilgore Trout are as far as I can tell
a Mr Kilgore and a Mr Trout. I am sure I saw them listed in the Melody
Maker last week as playing in Brighton, so they may still be about.
I have a compilation "Rorschach Blot Test" Jim Crow 1988, which apart
from not being in very good nick, has all three bands on and is quite
wonderful.The only thing is the bands are all so similar,
incestuous?, that if your not paying careful attention it could be an
LP of the same band.
Hope this is vaguely useful/interesting.
(I know this was sent direct to me and sorry to put it back on the
list, but I have not got the hang of this yet and deleted erics
address line - oops)
Richard Clemens, Centre Officer
Department of Construction & Surveying
University College Salford, Salford M6 6PU, UK
"Only dead fish swim with the stream" The Ex
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 06:14:09 -0400
I was just listening to _Victorialand_ for the first time in ages and
wondering about the remix of "Feet-Like Fins" that Mark Clifford will be
doing. I'm really curious as to how it will turn out - I mean, of all the
Cocteau Twins' songs, this isn't one that immediately suggests remixing (but
then which one does?). It could be a radical reworking but as long as he
doesn't throw out the panning acoustic I'll be happy...
BTW thanks to whoever it was (no longer have the message) who posted the
review of the Pram/Long Fin Killie/Jessamine/Laika show in NYC - I really
appreciate it.
File under "clueless": in the fine tradition of the Medicine review that
identified the singer as Liz Fraser, today's _Toronto Star_ features an
interview with Laika in which the writer constantly refers to Margaret
Fiedler as Margaret *Aedler*. Doh!
Larry
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 15:41:43 +0500
einexile asked where to find Volume 12 & 13 tracks - well, take a look at
their WWW:
Dmitri Bender......... [email protected] .................................
.............."Nothing is beautiful from every point of view"....Horace
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:16:35 +0200
Found this on ALT.MUSIC.4AD:
>Various postings and news stories have been circulating over Red House
Painters >and their relationship with 4AD. The real truth is, I'm afraid,
far less interesting. The >band was certainly not 'dropped', and to say that
Mark was unwilling to promote >the releases was untrue. Various financial
criteria have to be met to make a tour >possible, and like the case for
Lush's proposed US tour and Liquorice's UK tour, >these weren't met. Another
reason for the 'split' was Mark and Ivo simply not being >able to agree on a
tracklisting and certain edits, and we're not in the habit of >releasing a
record a band is not 100% happy with. Red House Painters deal was >never
'long term' - they and us preferred to work record to record, again
dismissing >the idea that they could be dropped. I hope this ends the
argument, as some of >the pieces both ourselves and Mark have seen has done
neither 4AD and Red >House Painters any favours. We are sorry not to be
working with them and wish >them the best of luck. Down Colorfull Hill will
remain, in my opinion, one of the >greatest debut albums ever recorded.
>Cliff Walton
>4AD Ltd
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 07:33:20 CDT
Those interested...
Liquorice apparently are scheduled to play Lounge Ax on Monday, October 2.
Chad Burkey Andersen Consulting
[email protected] Center for Strategic Technology Research
I speak only for myself
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:11:55 -0400
I wouldn't feel dumb about asking 4AD about the Lush EP....This month's
Alternative Press has a Lush EP listed for 4AD UK release in September.
So blame AP.
On a related topic, does Alternative Press no longer consider Cocteau
Twins to be within the interests of their readership? Everyone has known
that the "Twinlights" EP will be out this month, but AP has not had it
listed in their upcoming releases at _all_. Odd... HMV did, however,
make mention of it in their recent promo flyer.
Mike
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 10:58:44 -0400
I think one possible lure of "Feet-Like Fins" would be the percussion that
comes in 'round the middle of the song. Some good ideas for a broader
ambient mix of the song could come from that.
In addition, I would say that a song from 'Victorialand' was chosen be-
cause that album is often on the list of 'Most Influential Ambient
Recordings of All Time' or something like that. At least I know that
'Victorialand' has been cited on several occasions by more than one
ambient artist as having been very influential...
In other 4AD news...
Air Miami - "Me Me Me" -- great album. This is fantastic! I actually
like this incarnation better than Unrest. I
like how they toy around with electronics more
on this record.
Tarnation - "Gentle Creatures" -- This is different...Thankfully, I was
adequately prepared by others on the
list. I love Patsy Cline, so this is
nice. I don't really care for the
Mr. Johnny Cash vocals of that guy
(whose name escapes me). The artwork/
insert is also pretty good, although
I HATE this typeface that V23 won't
stop using. What's WITH that? But
the sepiatoned photos are nice and the
paper is also of good quality. And
these lyrics are great, too. If all
country musicians wrote such lyrics
(as opposed to "There's a tear in my
beer.." or "I've got friends in low
places..."), it might actually be
tolerable. But Tarnation are more like
art-country than straight country.
Definitely along the lines of the original
article, not this rednecked-up crap
one chokes on nowadays.
Mojave - "Ask Me Tomorrow" -- Mojave3? Whatever... This is very nice. I
hate country music, but this whole country
thing is rather refreshing nonetheless. And
only Neil and Rachel could make it sound so
heartfelt and pure. This is quiet and honest,
along the lines of "Here She Comes", "Dagger",
and "Country Rain". "Love Songs On the Radio"
is exactly the kind of song I'd expect to hear
on the radio, waking up to some New Mexico
sunrise...erm..sorry. That sounded cheesy.
"Facing the Wrong Way" -- I shit my pants when I saw this sitting in a
local shop. Glad to have it, although there's
nothing on it I don't now already have in some
form or other. But it's still pretty cool, and
really interesting if you play it right after,
say, Lonely Is An Eyesore. Hard to believe this
is the same record label. But I find it difficult
to fault 4AD most of the time, so I don't con-
sider the difference a bad one.
Just my lousy 2 cents' worth.
Mike
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 09:09:18 -0700
tarnation also appeared live on kcrw in santa monica wednesday (i taped it,
if anyone's interested). it was the first time i'd gotten to hear them, and
after seeing so many people bag on them, i don't get it. i thought their
music was beautiful, hypnotic, and near brilliant. i was fortunate enough
to win an autographed copy of their cd after the show, but even if i hadn't,
i would have been buying it, because this is one disc i can see myself
playing for a long, long time.
scott
>As I said yesterday, Wednesday has Pram and Tarnation at Luna Park.
>This is not a free show, and I don't suspect it will sell out.
>
>Then Tarnation plays a free show on Thursday at Spaceland,
>and on Friday at the No Life record store.
>
>That's "what in tarnation is going on" at the moment.
>
>| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
>| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
>| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
>| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
>
>
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 12:13:28 -0400
I don't know how frequently everyone here checks out the Cocteaus'
WWW Page, but here's some new news from Simon...
I thought that you would all like to know that we have just finished a
short film featuring two songs from Twinlights EP.Shot by ourselves
and filmaker Dirk Van Dooren, it will be ready in a week or so.It is
without doubt the most beautiful thing I've ever seen about us.Ring
your local TV stations and pester them to show it, as it will be a
tragedy if no-one sees it!By the way Twinlights Uk release is now
25th September, due to a pressing hiccup.God bless, Simon XXX
Simon Raymonde
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*sigh* Now if only Capitol and/or Fontana would release this on video,
perhaps along with all the other Cocteau Twins promos that one can only
ever get via bootleg...
I don't see any of the major networks here falling over each other to
show a Cocteau Twins film on TV. MAYBE MTV's 120 Minutes or something
might RISK it, but I doubt it. They wouldn't want to alienate their
viewers by showing something that's actually GOOD for a change...
Mike
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:54:47 -0700
einexile the meek on Thu, 14 Sep 1995 22:01:42 -0700)
>of thing as long as it is alt.hierarchy.stuff we are talking about. So if
>everyone wants this newsgroup I can newgroup it if no one else can.
>
>under the 4AD hierarchy; then people will see it coming from either
>direction but it won't take away from the 4AD whatzit since most of the
>important stuff will be crossposted. (For this same reason I think a new
>mailing list would be a *really* bad idea.)
Jesus H. Christ, did I just post a message about a week ago in regards
to setting up newsgroups...newsgroups such as these that have such a
narrow focus?
You're not exactly doing the Net a favour by wasting bandwidth with
these silly newsgroups. Stick to the mailing list--if it ain't broke,
don't fix it!
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 11:15:44 -0700
Does anyone have any more info on the Tarnation show in SF?
Thanks,
Jake
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:11:04 -0700
Capitol is definitely doing *something* with this
video. Whether it's an actual release or if they're
just promoting it to video channels I don't know.
I expect to see it within a week and I'll post
a description.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 15:15:51 -0700
> sigh. . .I'll repeat. Doesn't anyone read my posts (whine). The latest AP
> has the CD's label listed as "4AD UK" instead of the 4AD they usually use.
>
> bye,
>
> eric
>
Ouch.... [reverting back to pre-teenhood] excuuuuse me for living!
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 15:24:44 -0700
Thanks to a list member, I just heard Slowdive's
Pygmalion last night. Yikes! Mind you, the last thing I heard
by them was Just For A Day, and I'll probably love it eventually,
but Pygmalion really surprised and disappointed me. Sounds like
they've been listening to a good deal of Bark Psychosis; not
necessarily a bad thing; but to so completely abandon your past...
For Thad Engeling:
your friend [email protected] has lost contact with you.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 19:52:54 -0500
Is anyone in houston going to this show at the Urban Art Bar this Sunday?
If so, mail me! I'm planning to be there. [email protected]...
thanks, Lisa
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 18:04:49 -0700
RRRRR!! >:#
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 14:34:14 +0200 (MET DST)
On Thu, 14 Sep 1995, Stig S. Bakken wrote:
> said that the new album would not be released in Norway before next
> year. This is the same time as it will be released in the rest of the
Their record company also prohibits Bel Canto from holding concerts=20
before the album release. A concert in Trondheim this autumn had to be=20
cancelled because of that. Agh!
=09=09=09=09=09=09Rune
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Rune Sandnes=09=09=09=09=09"Jag tror p=E5 TV och
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 18:04:03 -0700
Grrr...
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 21:29:45 +0200
My gf heard an interview with Anneli on the radio today, and Anneli
said that the new album would not be released in Norway before next
year. This is the same time as it will be released in the rest of the
world. The reason was supposed to be that the record company was
afraid of pirate copies. (I'm not quite sure about the reason, I
didn't hear the interview myself.)
They might release a single before that, though.
Oh, and I think the title of the album was going to be "Magic Box".
Did anyone else in Norway hear this interview?
- Stig