Subject: air miami peanuts
Subject: more tarnation shows
Subject: Re: HELP UNSUBSCRIBE
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins email list or newsgroup
Subject: neue Current 93, Death in June, LPD
Subject: Air Miami?
Subject: First Annual 4AD Essay Contest
Subject: I heard about the Mojave Album on the rajio
Subject: The Muse Is Loose (in DC...)
Subject: FAQ Pt. 2
Subject: Re: Mojave -> Mojave 3
Subject: tarnation and pram
Subject: Volumes 12 and 13
Subject: I see my post has been answered, about the Mojave delay
Subject: Re: Hello gang
Subject: Seperate Cocteau List
Subject: list down?
Subject: (EC) nudes
Subject: Unsubscribe
Subject: pale nudes? naked saints? saintly nudists?
Subject: Re: Boos
Subject: FAQ Part 1
Subject: Cocteaus, Slowdive, Mouse on Mars
Subject: Dewdrops Records?
Subject: Whoops!
Subject: Re: air miami peanuts
Subject: sorry
Subject: Re: air miami peanuts
Subject: Re: Dewdrops Records?
Subject: Re: I heard about the Mojave Album on the rajio
Subject: Re: FAQ Part 1
Subject: Re: Dewdrops Records?
Subject: Re: FAQ Part 1
Subject: mojavedelay....
Subject: AIRMIAMIPEANUTS:you people are weird! :)
Subject: Re: I heard about the Mojave Album on the rajio
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins email list or newsgroup
Subject: Re: Whoops!
Subject: Digest frequency
Subject: RHP @ Berkeley Square 9/22
Subject: 4ad release UK schedule
Subject: Re: Air Miami?
Subject: Re: Volumes 12 and 13
Subject: Re: 4ad release UK schedule
Subject: Re: I heard about the Mojave Album on the rajio
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins email list or newsgroup
Subject: Re: Mouse on Mars
Subject: Re: 4ad release UK schedule
Subject: St. John's indescribable blight
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 20:46:22 -0600
okay, who wants a package of peanuts with an air miami sticker on it???
.....i wonder, do those record companies really think that sillystuff
like this will encourage music directors to add their releases?
i'll give this to anyone for free.
....la la la....mark.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 22:48:43 -0700
Hi list,
I just heard that Tarnation is playing a show this Sunday at the Kilowatt
Club in San Francisco. I don't have any more info than that.
Paul
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 01:23:45 -0400
On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Jesus Aranda wrote:
> hello, i really need help unsubscribing. I've tried it twice before and got
> nothing. so if there is someone out there willing to pull the plug on the
> list for me i would really appreciate it. neither my name or adress are on the
> list of subscribers so that won't work.
I'm sending this to the list to keep 20 people from trying to help!
I've sent some commands to try to find Jesus' subscriptions and will
remove him from the list ASAP. Now if neither his name nor his e-mail
address *are* on the list (as per the above), then this might be a tricky
task. :) But regardless I'll do my best to resolve the problem.
Cheers,
-jj
PS - I might be in San Francisco (or Mountain View?) next Fri/Sat on
business. I'd appreciate private e-mail (or post if you think it's of
general intereste) with suggestions on where I might want to go to see
a show while there. I never have any trouble finding great food, or
friendly bars to socialize in, but I don't know the club scene. I can
be reached the address in the mail header, [email protected], as well as
via mail to [email protected] and [email protected] too. Mail to
ClarkNet tends to get buried in mail delivery notices (over 300 in
the last 24 hour!), so try the request.net mailbox first. :)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 00:18:55 -0600
On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Michael R. M. Cheselka wrote:
> I have been thinking of a separate Cocteau Twins email list or
> newsgroup for sometime. This has been brought up on the list before
> by others and been dismissed.
i don't know if you wanted a private note or not....but i think this is
worthy list material....so here we go.
i really think there's no need for this. this list is so wonderful
because we discuss so many different things and half the time it's not
pure-4ad bands, but things we consider thislisty.
also, it says in the FAQ that bands that used to be on 4ad are completely
suitable topics for discussion.
finally, jens and everyone else have done a wonderful job putting
together a lot of cocteau information in the FAQ. there's such a strong
cocteau fan base on this list that it would seem pointless to have a
seperate one......
hmmmmmm.....just my thoughts.....
.cindytalkiswonderfulialmostcantstandit.
.mark.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 22:39:47 -0700
This is from the [email protected] pre-orders list. It's too late to
pre-order them (he sent it out an hour before the order was due) but I
thought a few people on here would be happy to hear about these.
---
Current 93 - Where the Long Shadows Fall Part 1 MLP/CD $14.00
First new C93 material since 1993 is Part 1 of the "Inmost Light"
Trilogy. The vinyl is a claer one-sided 12" and the CD comes with a
full-colour booklet. Both formats limited to 2000.
Death in June-Black Hole of Love Baxset BADVC39 $53.00
Very limited boxset contains a 7"/10"/12"/CDS of the title track
"Leopard Flowers" plus new versions of "Luther's Army", "God's Golden
Sperm", "Accidental Protege", "Omen Filled Season", and "Lifebooks".
Comes with a full color poster and postcar@ encased in a sealed leather
finished box with foil lettering. All the vinyl will be deleted after
the box is sold out. There will be no re-press.
---
Is there anyone else here who is into this stuff but not on wsd-l or the
LPD list, etc? I can't handle the mail load on those lists so I don't
subscribe, so if anyone on this list hears the C93 record could you maybe
post a review or something? Also I think the Legendary Pink Dots have a
new proper album out and I would like to know anything there is to know
about this one. Thanks. :)
In other news, yesterday I bought Death in June's _Ostenbraun_, a reissue
of a cassette from 1989, and am quite pleased. Most of it is unfamiliar
material. It is entirely ambien/.noise oriented, meaning NO guitar, but
quite pretty and atmospheric, though sometimes it is boring. Also snapped
up LPD's Chemical Playschool 8&9 double CD and am way happy with it.
Anyone who is pissed off at Edward and the gang's recent work (other than
the hiphophappenin 9 Lives to Wonder) should find this a welcome breath
of fresh air (not to mention good music).
einexile, whose Fax collection is about to overtake his 4AD collection...
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 23:59:55 -0500
was I the only one who couldn't find the Air Miami cd
in any stores Tuesday? The 12th was the scheduled release
date, right? The store owners (I went to about 4 stores,
ranging from Mom&Pop to Mega-chains) couldn't figure out
why they didn't have it. Is it possible that the release
date was pushed back at the last minute? or is Indiana\
just last on the list of good-music-distribution...
mike
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 01:22:30 -0400
It gives me great pleasure to announce, in the spirit of listie camaraderie,
the First Annual 4AD Internet Essay Contest. First prize is a brand new,
shiny 1995 promo-only Air Miami giveaway 7" of "I Hate Milk Milk (remix)" b/w
"Afternoon Train Train (remix)", handed out to the first 200 patrons at the
Air Miami/Throwing Muses gig here in Washington DC on 9/12/95. This is sure
to become a hotly-pursued collector's item (or not, who knows, but what the
hey, it's free).
To win, just submit to the list no later than SEPTEMBER 19, 1995 a
composition of 250 words or less on the following theme:
"If I Were Managing Director, My Masterplan For Leading 4AD To World
Domination By 1999 Would Be..."
Entries will be judged on business and marketing acumen, musical knowledge,
wit, style, grammar, punctuation and that ability to count to 250.
All entries should be clearly labeled as such in the the subject line. All
entries become the property of oblivion, except the winner. The judge's
decision is final. Void where prohibited by law, good taste, common sense,
or simply having something better to do with your time. Relatives or
employees of Dave G. are not eligible for anything but grief.
May the best listoid win. No grouches, please. You may already be a winner!
Dave G.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 01:11:08 -0700
This evening I heard a DJ back announce the "Radio Love Song" by
Mojave. (KCRW in So. Calif) I missed the song since I was making dinner,
BUT she said that the album, _Ask Me Tomorrow_, would be released in January,
that its release date was pushed back...
Can anyone with better connections (lil goth Ivo?) confirm or debunk this?
Someone, tell me I was hearing things.(?)
I was kind of looking forward to hearing it, even though I haven't heard
"Radio Love Song." There are promos out and everything......
This looks suspiciously like a trick they (4ad-Warner US) pulled with
_Funky Lil Demons_.
-lil nick
[Thanks for that flame Rob; I haven't been slandered that well for a
while. Sorry if the humor I intended in my congratulations to Ivo on
his internship didn't come across.]
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 01:03:57 -0400
Throwing Muses put on a fine show at DC's historic 9:30 Club earlier this
evening. Aside from the annoying girl who kept screaming "YOU CAGE!"
(Kristin's riposte: "I don't know the words...") and the jim-bob standing in
front of me who kept invading my personal space, it was pure bliss, the sound
gremlins that plagued the band last time around blessedly ironed out. The
big surprises were Kristin's new hair (ultra-short, almost cadet length, even
shorter than a standard issue 1990's riot grrl huggybear), the dusting off of
a couple of tunes from the first CD ("America," "Vicky's Box"), a cover of
the Volcano Suns' "Jak," and some brand new numbers (four by my count, give
or take), one of which was a climax-laden blazer and another of which sounded
like an outtake from "Taking Tiger Mountain." These numbers hold great
promise for the upcoming Muses full-lengther. The band seems to get tighter
and more comfortable with each other every time around, although I had the
feeling about halfway through the set that a second guitar to paste some
flesh on the power-trio bones might be something for KH to consider further
on up the road. Aces.
Air Miami, on the release date of their new CD, did a good set of shiny,
unassuming pop tunes. Live, Air Miami = Unrest = finely crafted pop nuggets,
unspectacularly delivered. The only real jawdropper was "Dolphin
Expressway," the song chosen (and rightly so) for the "think I'm getting the
hang of it" CD sampler. I'm starting to think that AM will always be a
studio band, a fact that may keep me home from their October gig, but
doesn't diminish one iota my enthusiasm for buying "Me, Me, Me."
Other opinions on other shows, as the tour treks through Amerika?
Dave G.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 13:54:18 EST
COMPILATIONS
Twins,
Dead Can Dance, This Mortal Coil, Throwing Muses, Dif Juz and more.) In
addition to the usual LP, CD, cassette and videocassette versions, there is
a
limited-edition LP with a sleeve of mind-blowing complexity and beauty
(according to those who've seen it.) There is even an extremly limited
wooden
box version. Only 100 were made, and if you ever find one, expect to pay at
least $800 for it. Brant Nelson says "there's one near where I live and the
owner wants over $2000!"
Album track listing:
1. Colourbox - "Hot Doggie"
2. This Mortal Coil - "Acid, Bitter and Sad"
3. Dead Can Dance - "Frontier"
4. Throwing Muses - "Fish"
5. Wolfgang Press - "Cut The Tree"
6. Cocteau Twins - "Crushed"
7. Dif Juz - "No Motion"
8. Clan of Xymox - "Muscoviet Mosquito"
9. Dead Can Dance - "The Protagonist"
The video includes the same tracks, in the order: 3, 6, 2, 4, 8, 5, 1, 7,
9.
promotional release only to mark 4AD joining with Warner Bros. It was sent
to
radio stations, stores and the press and was never available for purchase.
It contains two CDs; one of older material, one of new material:
Liliput 1
Bauhaus - Dark Entries
The The - Controversial Subject
The Birthday Party - Nick The Stripper
Modern English - I Melt With You
This Mortal Coil - Song To The Siren
Xmal Deutschland - Incubus Succubus II
Cocteau Twins - The Spangle Maker
Xymox - Stranger
Colourbox - Baby, I Love You So
Throwing Muses - Hate My Way
Dif Juz - No Motion
M/A/R/R/S - Pump Up The Volume
Ultra Vivid Scene - Mercy Seat
Dead Can Dance - The Host Of Seraphim
Pixies - Monkey Gone To Heaven
Lush - De-luxe
Lilliput 2
Pale Saints - Throwing Back The Apple
Pale Saints - Featherframe
The Wolfgang Press - A Girl Like You
The Wolfgang Press - Birmingham
Michael Brook - Breakdown
Michael Brook - Urbana
Spirea X - Chlorine Dream
Spirea X - Signed D.C
Heidi Berry - Gloria
His Name Is Alive - Are We Still Married?
Swallow - Tastes Like Honey
Swallow - Follow Me Down
Copies have been sighted in used record stores for up to $100. Good luck
finding one.
to stores and radio stations. Copies were also given out at the CMJ shows
last year.
Track listing:
The Wolfgang Press sucker m.f. (remix)
remixed by Martyn Young (M.A.R.R.S./Colourbox)
Swallow lovesleep
Red House Painters michael
Throwing Muses pearl
Lush nothing natural
Spirea X chlorine dream
Belly dusted
His Name is Alive the dirt eaters
Michael Brook shona bridge
The Breeders do you love me now?
Pale Saints blue flower
The Birthday Party sonny's burning
Modern English melt with you
Pixies u-mass
...plus a hidden bonus track:
This Mortal Coil Song To The Siren
Savage
Republic) from Independent Project Records in Sedona, AZ. (Trivia: what 4AD
song mentions this town?) In typical Licher fashion, eight different color
combinations were printed. The CD holder is entirely cardboard, with a
fold-out insert containing the CD. 4AD plans on periodically releasing
these
retail samplers which will probably include a hidden track on each one.
Belly - Feed The Tree
Ultra Vivid Scene - Blood And Thunder
Frank Black - Los Angeles
Heidi Berry - The Moon And The Sun
Red House Painters - Rollercoaster
Dead Can Dance - The Carnival Is Over
His Name Is Alive - In Every Ford
Unrest - Teenage Suicide
Underground Lovers - Promenade
This Mortal Coil - You And Your Sister
Matt Johnson - Another Boy Drowning
Dance Chapter - Anonymity (hidden track)
Lush - Desire Lines (demo)
Kristin Hersh - Your Ghost (demo)
Red House Painters - Mistress (remix)
Underground Lovers - Your Eyes (remix)
The Wolfgang Press - Peace On Fire
Unrest - Where Are All Those Puerto Rican Boys?
The Breeders - Invisible Man (demo)
Bettie Serveert - Totally Freaked Out
Brendan Perry - Happy Time
Heidi Berry - Firefly
Pale Saints - One Blue Hill (demo)
His Name Is Alive - The Time Falling Bodies Take To Light
Ultra Vivid Scene - This Is The Way (part 2)
There was also an accompanying video and poster pack. Information on the
contents thereof would be appreciated.
their first CD release. It has a variety of stuff from "Garlands" through
"Treasure". The more obscure things on it are:
- A version of "Wax and Wane" with a much heavier drum sound
- "Millimillenary" (from a limited edition compilation tape called
"Department Of Enjoyment", released by NME)
As far as we know it is out of print. Copies still show up in used bins,
however.
(list member and Dewdrops (4AD fanzine) editor.) It consists of 13 bands
covering 13 songs originally released on 4AD. It is expected to become
available in July 1993. It may be ordered from Brant at Dewdrops, 1817
Corinth Ave. #10, Los Angeles, CA 90025-5567. The US price is $11.50 which
includes postage. Make checks payable to Brant Nelson.
For more info, see the FAQ file on Dewdrops.
The Moon Seven Times - Michelle (Xymox)
Hover - When I Was A Painter (The Breeders)
immer essen - Not In Love (Ultra Vivid Scene)
Livia - Mizake The Mizan (Cocteau Twins)
Red Zoo - 5/10 (Colin Newman)
Independent Mechanical Industry - Swing Like A Baby (The Wolfgang Press)
GLE - Hate My Way (Throwing Muses)
Clarity - Saltarello (Dead Can Dance)
Orange - Gigantic (Pixies)
The Gosh Guys - Where Is My Mind (Pixies)
Floral Majority - Blue Flower (Pale Saints)
Firecracker - There's Something Between Us... (His Name Is Alive)
Tel Basta - I Melt With You (Modern English)
1) The Wolfgang Press "Big Sex"
2) A.R. Kane "Lolita"
3) Throwing Muses "Chains Changed"
4) Frazier Chorus "Sloppy Heart"
5) M/A/R/R/S "Pump Up the Volume"
DISCOGRAPHY / GROUPOGRAPHY
labels?
AR Kane
Daniel Ash / Glen Campling
Bauhaus
Bearz
Belly
Heidi Berry
The Birthday Party
Frank Black
Breeders
Michael Brook
Budd / Fraser / Guthrie / Raymonde
C.V.O.
(Clan Of) Xymox
Cocteau Twins
Colourbox
Dance Chapter
Dead Can Dance
Dif Juz
The Fast Set
Frazier Chorus
Rene Halkett / David J
The Happy Family
Kristen Hersh
His Name Is Alive
Rowland Howard / Lydia Lunch
In Camera
Matt Johnson
G. Lewis / B.C. Gilbert
Lydia Lunch
Lush
M/A/R/R/S
Mass
Modern English
My Captains
Le Mystere Des Voix Bulgares
Colin Newman
Pieter Nooten / Michael Brook
Pale Saints
The Past Seven Days
Pixies
Psychotic Tanks
Red Atkins
Red House Painters
Rema Rema
Richenel
Bettie Serveert
Shox
Sort Sol
Spasmodic Caress
Spirea X
Swallow
The The
This Mortal Coil
Throwing Muses
Ultra Vivid Scene
Underground Lovers
Unrest
The Wolfgang Press
Xmal Deutschland
mid-1987. Various more up to date ones have been printed in Melody Maker,
Spiral Scratch, and Dewdrops. For the most up to date information, check
page 2 or 3 of Dewdrops or consult...
down to track listings and personnel) maintained by list member Lars Magne
Ingebrigtsen Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 00:54:45 -0700
On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Brant Dewdrops wrote:
> The latest bit of news from 4AD is that
> Mojave had to change their name to Mojave 3,
> because there is a German band already named Mojave.
Oh God. Not this again. And I suppose all the assholes in the music press
(and even a few on this list?) will honor the name change. Retch.
Why not Mojave 2?
Better yet...here's a wild one...how about SLOWDIVE?? :p
Ugh. You know what this means now? It means that delay we were
discussing. I bet you anything that was the reason it was seen as a
possibility. I can see it now. Mojave 3 - Ask Me Tomorrow UK - Coming in
January - no, actually make that February or March or something...
God damned Germans.
einexile *hates* this stupid bullshit
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 01:04:16 -0700
Here are some worthless one line reviews of the shows
I just saw:
not as "country" as I was expecting.
The Sea and the Cake: fairly generic. good as long as the vocalist
doesn't open his mouth.
I liked a lot of it, but it did tend to drag toward the end.
Their music makes me feel like I have brain damage.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 01:27:54 -0700
I never knew these came out. Must have slipped someone's mind to mention
them here, since Volume has put out nothing but shit for about two years.
Anyway, if someone can tell me what is on them, or where to get a track
listing, and better yet where to get copies of these that I can be
relatively certain will be in perfect condition, I would appreciate it.
I bought Volume 14 yesterday, listened to the Electrafixion track, hated
it and shut off the cd. Actually this happened in the opposite order,
with me hating the cd and then buying it, but go figure...
Thank you.
elixenie
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 01:40:48 -0700
I just found an answer to that post of mine asking about the release of the
Mojave album. (Somehow the post was delayed a day.)
On alt.music.4ad of all places.... Maybe we could convince
[email protected] to hang out on the list.
>It's only been delayed in the US to avoid it getting 'lost' in a very busy
>schedule. It is still coming out in the UK and Europe on October 16th, and
>will be followed by a very special London show and a tour. It is going to
>be worth the wait, and don't worry, we've had their hex lifted!
>
>Cliff
I guess we can thank Warner once again. they're my hero
Maybe the promotion will be so strong Mojave will make the next
pack of Buzz Clips and become the next KROQue sensation and make
a million bucks. (That last part isn't really in jest)
-n
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 14:21:08 -0400
Hello,
I've been offline for about five months and I've missed all the wonderful
goings on on the 4AD list. Fill me in... I've been in a cave for far too
long.
Roger
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 02:55:58 PDT
Lost the original mail, so I can't e-mail direct, but it is a list issue in any
ase.
Points to ponder:
- Another list means another flood of mail everyday
- When writing on Cocteaus does the author write to the 4AD list and the CT list
- If Cocteaus get their own list should we have one for all ex-4AD bands (that *
ay* have a large following) e.g. Xymox, Wolfgang etc.?
I would not suggest a seperate list at this stage. After all, it will be a good
10 years before Cocteaus surpass releases on 4AD with releases on the new label.
(This probably doesn't make sense, sorry).
=========================================
Another snowy Artic day in darkest Africa...............
[email protected]
==========================================
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 12:44:42 -0400
the list has been awfully inactive today... is anyone else out there
getting any posts?
r
rebecca fagan
[email protected] (try this one first)
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 12:19:01 +0100
>The CD I'm looking at is actually called _the (EC) nudes_. I don't know what
>the "(EC)" stands for, but they go by the name _the pale nudes_ now. This was
>their first CD and it is on the RecRec(?) label. The US distribution is on
>Cuneiform, so it not be so hard to find in the US.
the (EC) refers to European Community. It denotes that the band complies
with EC Directive No. 6959221 stating that:
"In order to be able to describe itself (or themselves) as 'nude', any
band wishing to perform within the jurisdiction of the European Commission
must fulfil one of the following criteria:
i) if classified as 'permanently nude', performers must be without clothes
for all of any period which they are said to be performing or recording
WITH THE SOLE EXCEPTION OF 6" STILLETO HEELS.
ii) if classified as "totally nude", the period of time spent completely
naked(i.e. SANS STILLETOS) must be no less than 80% of the total time spent
performing or recording.
iii) if classified as 'intermediately nude', see-through materials must be
worn for no more than 10% of the time of naked exposure (cf. the snake
dancer replicant in 'Blade Runner', which has been used here as an example
because the Commission could find no suitable French, sorry, European
cinematic equivalent) "
I hope this information can answer some of your questions.
- graham -
"Bigger bombs! More arrogant colonialism! Yeah! Yeah!"
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 09:21:41 +0200
Hi there,
I havbe tried to unsubscibe three month ago ang went on vacation. I was
surprised to still find that I wasn't. What to do ?
Please help me, sending the answer to an other address :
[email protected]. I have change my pc....
Thanks
Email : [email protected]
T�l : 72 00 43 85
Adr : DRAC RHONE-ALPES
6 quai St-Vincent
69001 LYON
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 06:14:25 -0400
Marvyn wrote:
>No, the band consists of Amy Denio (who is from Seattle), Wadi Gysi and Chris
>Cutler who is formerly of Henry Cow--that seminal british art band of the
>seventies. :) Fred Frith, who was with Henry Cow has also played with Amy on
>one of the Tone Dogs CDs.
okay, well then let me put it this way: is there such a band from (the
former) Czechoslovakia called the Naked Saints or something similar? The
tiny bit of them that I saw on TV once sounded pretty good and I remember
hearing that they had a deal with a Swiss label. I realise this is not very
much to go on, but does anyone know more?
Larry, a.k.a. Mahucutah, the Not-brushed
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 06:04:50 -0700
I've had the import for about 2 months now. Wake UP! is a really good
and fun pop festival. The title track is infectious and quite catchy.
I thoroughly enjoy the release. This release contains a variety of
styles under the umbrella of pop-euro rock. So I was impressed with
the diversity, and would recommend it. However, as always i say listen
to it yourself first. For all you know I could be married to one of
the Boos!
cheers, euthelene
work backwards from reality.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 13:51:15 EST
I thought I'd post the most recent FAQ that I have, now that the school year
has started, since there may be several new subscribers to the list. This
is all Jens' work. Perhaps there is even a more recent FAQ. Mine is dated
June 8, 1994 (over a year old!). I've updated the e-mail addresses to
reflect the new list address. NOTE: I don't have Jim Jones' new address,
so that info is wrong. Anyone know the new
one?
Lawren
[email protected]
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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
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Discography / Groupography
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INTRODUCTION
This is the list of Frequently Asked Questions for the 4AD-List, an
Internet
mailing list devoted to the 4AD record label and the bands on it, such as
Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, the Breeders, Throwing Muses, etc. Other
music
of a similar nature (generally swirly/ethereal/noisy) is also discussed;
see
below under "List Etiquette".
This list was compiled by Jens Alfke
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 09:53:48 +0100
"Michael R. M. Cheselka"
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 09:44:18 -0700
Is there a "Dewdrops Records"? Can anyone tell me how to get
a hold of them: address?e-mail?
Most appreciated
Monty
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 08:52:29 CST
Sorry about that last message. I'd already sent it before I realized my
heinous crime. Oh, by the way. I never posted a review of the two AC
Temple CDs I got b/c of the non-response to the BEAR review. Quick summary:
Another rock band in the sonic youth sort of vein. Not as enjoyable as
Spoonfed Hybrid or BEAR, though. Female singer is very annoying.
bye,
eric
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 08:46:44 CST
In Message Tue, 12 Sep 1995 20:46:22 -0600,
".bigloveeyes."
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:54:19 +0000
Sorry my last message was the worst typed thing ever. It has been a
long day.
Richard Clemens, Centre Officer
Department of Construction & Surveying
University College Salford, Salford M6 6PU, UK
"Only dead fish swim with the stream" The Ex
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 10:42:34 -0700
The peanuts thing is funny, cuz I was told by my new 'boss' at 4AD that
they were sending Air Miami out with packs of Chips Ahoy cuz the first
single is 'I Hate Milk'....
Ivo
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 10:49:51 -0700
On Thu, 14 Sep 1995, mvs wrote:
> Is there a "Dewdrops Records"? Can anyone tell me how to get
> a hold of them: address?e-mail?
>
*looks at Brant....*
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 10:47:12 -0700
I don't know about the album being pushed back... they've already got
TONS of promo cds at the office...maybe cuz they changed their name,
they're going to do another pressing with the new name?? I'm not sure, I
haven't started working there yet. ;)
Ivo
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 12:13:08 -0400
Note, A.R. Kane just released New Clear Child (which is pretty good, if I
might add) within the past year.
AW
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 12:31:14 -0600
Yes, theseis a Drewdrops Records. In fact, the guy who runs it is on
this list. His name is Brant, and I'm sure he'll be more the happy to
talk with you, if he hasn't done so already.
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 10:33:17 CDT
13, 95 1:51 pm
> Q: Whatever happened to that band...
> A:
> Spirea X: Left 4AD and disappeared utterly.
> Pale Saints: Singer/bassist Graham Naismith left in late '93 to form
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Spoonfed Hybrid, who have an album out on Guernica. The rest of the band
> have
> recruited a bass player from the Heart Throbs and will have a new album out
> later in '94.
OK, it's a slow day.
kent
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 10:47:49 -0600
> >It's only been delayed in the US to avoid it getting 'lost' in a very busy
> >schedule. It is still coming out in the UK and Europe on October 16th, and
> >will be followed by a very special London show and a tour. It is going to
> >be worth the wait, and don't worry, we've had their hex lifted!
this is so fucking ridiculous!!! they've had their hex lifted???? what the
fuck is that? they're still not releasing the album stateside until some
months after the uk release. hello! record companies.....this is a dumb
thing to do.....i'm sure there will be import copies....how can there not
be??? so, how many of us will go buy the import and then it won't sell
in the US and warner will get grumpie.
mojave 3? nope. i'm just gonna call them slowdive4ad.
thank god and a certain nice person that i already have a dub.
.mark......reallyhatesthiskindofthing.
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 10:37:47 -0600
i can't believe i got so many requests for those airmiami peanuts. what
do you people do with these things????
anyway, i will NOT take cash for this. that's the silliest thing i've
ever heard.....it's just a pack of eagle airline peanuts with a sticker
on it.
as i got so many requests i'm not really sure what to do with them. i'm
tempted to just open them up and eat them....but i don't trust 4ad or
mark robinson....they might be poisoned. maybe i should open them up then
cut the package into tiny pieces. then i'll send each one of you a single
peanut with a piece of the stickered package taped to it. how's that
sound?
i think i'll make you sillies work for this.....i want long, well written
messages (prose or poetry) explaining why you should have these peanuts.
be creative, go wild! perhaps give me a detailed description of exactly
what strange rituals you are going to perform with them. i'm serious.....
of course, the first person to offer me a Hasselbad or Mamiya (or any
other decent medium format camera) in working condition wins.
deadline for entries is monday: 10pm. private email please!!!!!!
.love......mark.
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 15:31:07 -0600
>I don't know about the album being pushed back... they've already got
>TONS of promo cds at the office...maybe cuz they changed their name,
>they're going to do another pressing with the new name?? I'm not sure, I
>haven't started working there yet. ;)
>
>Ivo
sigh. . .I'll repeat. Doesn't anyone read my posts (whine). The latest AP
has the CD's label listed as "4AD UK" instead of the 4AD they usually use.
bye,
eric
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:28:35 -0400
I think such a newsgroup or mailing list would receive much response in
the coming 4 months or so, considering that they have 2 EP's and an album
coming out. After that though, it's hard to say. Personally, I remain
subscribed to 4AD-L almost exclusively to hear news about the Cocteau
Twins. If this topic were moved somewhere else, I would probably
unsubscribe from 4AD-L. Does anyone else here feel this way? It would
certainly make it easier to sort through my mail. And such a forum would
also be greatly for attracting new CT fans who don't know they used to be
on 4AD. On another note, I'd also be interested in some sort of
marketplace for Cocteau Twins rarities, or maybe this could be
incorporated with a marketplace for 4AD/thislisty stuff in general. This
would alleviate much of the For Sale stuff people have been griping about
on this list.
Bert
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:52:05 +0000
I never posted a review of the two AC
> Temple CDs I got b/c of the non-response to the BEAR review. Quick summary:
> Another rock band in the sonic youth sort of vein. Not as enjoyable as
> Spoonfed Hybrid or BEAR, though. Female singer is very annoying.
>
> bye,
>
> eric
>
Which AC Temple LPs? Whilst there are definate influences from Sonic
Youth (okay big influences) on the stuff they still stand on there
own in my opinion. The last LP 'Belina Backwards' is one of my all
time tops. It is quite a change, and admitedly it took a dark January
birthday night in the Camden Falcon to convince me it was as wonderful as it
truely is (my opinion). Then agasin I like all that AC Temple, Dust
Devils, Kilgore Trout stuff.
Richard Clemens, Centre Officer
Department of Construction & Surveying
University College Salford, Salford M6 6PU, UK
"Only dead fish swim with the stream" The Ex
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:17:04 EDT
I've lately been receiving the 4ad-l digest every few days where it
contains messages for more than one day (sometimes 3 or 4). Is there a
way to get the digests in a *DAILY* mailing?
Just wondering...
Tom
(who's just figured out that the address is now 'american.edu' and not
'jhuvm.jhu.edu')
[email protected]
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 13:40:16 MDT
Just so you know (I may be behind b/c I'm on digest),
The Berkeley Square recording machine claims RHP is playing there
Friday 9/22.
Wooohooo!
b
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 00:29:48 +0200
About a month ago someone posted a 4AD UK release 1995-schedule including a
Lush 12"/CD-EP to be issued September 25. I asked Cliff at 4AD about it and
he answered:
>no. what a strange question? early next year
I felt embarrassed....
The 4AD UK release schedule for the rest of 1995 looks a bit like this now:
1-10 SCHEER 'Schism' 12"/CD
9-10 THE AMPS 'Tipp City' 12"/CD
16-10 MOJAVE (3) 'Ask Me Tomorrow' LP/CD
30-10 THE AMPS 'Empty Glasses'
??-?? AIR MIAMI 'I Hate Milk' 12"/CD
Frank
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:38:09 -0400
Not surprisingly, the new disc was in Tower Records DC on Tuesday.
Dave G.
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 10:36:31 CST
> Anyway, if someone can tell me what is on them, or where to get a track
> listing, and better yet where to get copies of these that I can be
Track listings:
Volume Twelve
1. Node -- Olivine
2. Spiritualized -- Good Times (Pure Phase)
3. Goya Dress -- Foetus
4. Garbage -- Vow
5. Prolapse -- Visa for Violet and Van
6. Shriek -- Girl Meets Girl
7. Pet Lamb -- Son of John Doe
8. Moby -- What Love?
9. G Love and Special Sauce -- Tomorrow Night
10. Massive Attack -- Karma Coma (Bumper Ball Dub)
11. Experimental Audio Research -- Space Theme
(Tribute to John Cage in C, A, G & E)
12. Laika -- Lower Than Stars
13. Ride -- Only Now
14. Catatonia -- Dream On
15. Love Spit Love -- Wake Up
16. Novocaine -- Pond Life
17. Flinch -- Days
18. Nitzer Ebb -- In Decline
Volume Thirteen
1. Krispy 3 -- Listen Up
2. Whiteout -- Polyesther Blues
3. The Boo Radleys -- Reaching Out From Here
4. Animals That Swim -- East Street O'Neill
5. Juliana Hatfield -- Waves
6. Elcka -- Games We Play
7. Interact -- Just Because
8. Throwing Muses -- Hillbilly
9. Kaliphz -- Sex, Horror & Violence
10. Luscious Jackson -- Daddy
11. Tribute to nothing -- Look at Yourself
12. The Flying Medallions -- Vanity Fair
13. Nova Mob -- No Promise Have I Made
14. Done Lying Down -- Bolus
15. Rosa Mota -- Frost Bitten
16. Edwyn Collins -- In a Nutshell
17. Tindersticks -- Tiny Tears
18. Radiohead -- Nice Dream
19. Velo Deluxe -- Jesus Let Me In
20. Reverberation -- It's All Over
21. Heather Nova -- Maybe an Angel
A local CD store has one or both new, that I could pick up for you
if you are desperate. If you can't already guess from the track listing,
neither collection is really outstanding. Just a couple good songs on
each in amonct all the rubbish.
later on,
Thad
"This isn't death, this is just a textural event"
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 20:54:45 -0400
On Fri, 15 Sep 1995, Frank Brinkhuis wrote:
> About a month ago someone posted a 4AD UK release 1995-schedule including a
> Lush 12"/CD-EP to be issued September 25. I asked Cliff at 4AD about it and
> he answered:
>
> >no. what a strange question? early next year
>
> I felt embarrassed....
>
Don't be; as of July Lush *were* planning an EP to
be released in October, with the LP release set for "early
next year"...
Maybe they forgot to tell 4AD....
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wendy
.sigless until further notice
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:42:56 -0700
> I don't know about the album being pushed back... they've already got
> TONS of promo cds at the office...maybe cuz they changed their name,
> they're going to do another pressing with the new name?? I'm not sure, I
> haven't started working there yet. ;)
>
> Ivo
>
So, tons of promo CD's? What are the chances of one getting
mailed to me? =) Or, how about everyone on the list? I'd promise
to buy a commercial copy when the thing actually comes out...
-Jason
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 16:49:02 -0700
> Personally, I remain
> subscribed to 4AD-L almost exclusively to hear news about the Cocteau
> Twins.
I think you're probably not alone.
> certainly make it easier to sort through my mail. And such a forum would
> also be greatly for attracting new CT fans who don't know they used to be
> on 4AD.
This all makes sense, and I think there ought to be little
resistance to starting something like this.
There are at least three possibilities:
and when I say "newsgroup" here I mean both NEWSGROUP and
4ad-l style listserver.
1. Dewdrops creates and maintains a newsgroup.
we're going to be involved in running the fan club
It's likely I would not have the time or energy to keep up with it.
2. Bryan Spidell creates and runs a newsgroup.
3. Jack Huynh creates and runs a newsgroup.
So Jack's probably The Man. I'll look into it and report back.
brant
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:39:00 EST
I've heard two tracks so far and have not heard any of their previous stuff.
However, I must say I was mighty impressed with the weirdness of their
songs. On my local radio station it's advertised as "Post-techno,
post-ambient space dub" and that sums up the two tracks pretty much. I'll
probably buy it today.
Cheers,
H.
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>
>So how does MOM Iaora Tahiti compare to Vulvaland?
>less ambient, more ambient, more dancey, less dancey,
>more vox, does it *rawk* dude ?????
>
>
>kent
>[email protected]
>the cat vomitting somewhere
>