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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:20:41 -0600
From: ".bigloveeyes." (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: RE : Subscription
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:19:47 EDT
From: Scott_Schaefer.COMPUSERVE_CORP@NOTES.COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject: Calliope
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 08:34:04 -0400
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: subscribe?
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 00:50:35 -0700
From: jiji johnson (jiji@SPEED.NET)
Subject: Wtd: Dirt Eaters DC Review
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:05:42 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: bootlegs in general
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 23:44:17 -0700
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: ...think i'm not going to get it
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:43:40 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Liz Fraser & Mark Clifford
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 08:48:48 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Garbage
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:20:40 CDT
From: "Kent J. Vanderwaal" (kjv@ANDROS.CIM.CDC.COM)
Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard Chicago Tour Date
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:54:35 -0500
From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: SCHEER 7" - Did I miss out on anything?
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:00:46 -0400
From: Rodney Rodriguez (ItsonlyRod@AOL.COM)
Subject: Lisa Germano on Anon Compilation
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:00:49 -0500
From: christopher hanis (chanis@SILVER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Calliope
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:30:10 +0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: guitar talk yada yada yada
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 08:16:48 EST
From: Ricq Pattay (PATTAYR@FAGAN.UNCG.EDU)
Subject: Re: bootlegs in general
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:50:45 -0700
From: Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: guitar talk yada yada yada
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:45:12 -0700
From: Noah Slankard (slankard@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: Garbage
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:54:03 -0700
From: Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: drums 4 aberdeen (ad)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 18:28:31 -0700
From: Super 31 (super31@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Calliope
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 20:08:13 -0400
From: "[spiral]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: ATTENTION EVERYONE!!!
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 21:54:15 -0400
From: "...Future Dr. J.H. Rodrigues..." (drex@DORSAI.DORSAI.ORG)

Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:20:41 -0600
From: ".bigloveeyes." (vonminde@RINTINTIN.COLORADO.EDU)
Subject: AndAlsoTheTrees Mailing List


i know some people on 4ad-l will be interested in this.....

there is soon to be a fully automated And Also The Trees mailing list.
the list is up & running.  i'm currently testing it and will probably
post the address next week sometime.  i hope any aatt fans on 4ad-l will
join....i'd be delighted to have you....

(sorry to those you receiving Order & Method who will soon get another
announcment.....)

        .takecare.........mark.


Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:19:47 EDT
From: Scott_Schaefer.COMPUSERVE_CORP@NOTES.COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject: RE : Subscription


  Hello,

  How do I unsubscribe from this list?

  Scott


Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 08:34:04 -0400
From: TIM CONLON (U590@SYSM.ACS.VIRGINIA.EDU)
Subject: Calliope


  While looking through the "pay us a dollar and take it out of our
store" bin, I found this self-titled cd.  Sounds somewhat like Balloon
and RHP (but with more instrumentation).  Its on the Thick label.
Anyone have any information?


TIM CONLON
U590@sysm.acs.Virginia.EDU


Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 00:50:35 -0700
From: jiji johnson (jiji@SPEED.NET)
Subject: subscribe?


pardon the ignorance, but can someone please tell me how to subscribe to
this list?

peace
jiji@speed.net

Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:05:42 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Wtd: Dirt Eaters DC Review


Since I had the misfortune of getting sick on the best concert night of the
season here in DC, can Steve or someone else who saw the Dirt Eaters/Tone
show at Atlantis post a review?  It would be greatly appreciated by us
unfortunate shut-ins.

Thanks, BTW, for the sage advice I got from Defever lovers about my DE vs.
Dirty Three quandry.

Dave G.

Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 23:44:17 -0700
From: Jake Reichert (reicja00@DONS.AC.USFCA.EDU)
Subject: Re: bootlegs in general


>myself.  ever see merchandise from China?  they bootleg everything they
>can, i have a sweatshirt that has Mickey Duck on it, no kidding.  i've

And you only bought one?!?  I know about 8,000 people, myself included, who
would've bought one :)


Jake


Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:43:40 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: ...think i'm not going to get it


For anyone in the d.c. area, phantasmagoria has a copy of think im
getting the hang of it for sale.  i almost bought it just for mojave but
decided i'd rather wait and hear the whole album at once.  but that's a
whole month away!

aaron


Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 08:48:48 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Liz Fraser & Mark Clifford


Hiding in the small print of the "forthcoming techno stuff" column in
yesterday's NME was the momentous announcement that Mark "Seefeel"
Clifford and Liz "Wounded Dolphin" Fraser have recorded an album, which
will be out on Warp early next year, preceded by a couple of singles in
ambient style from MC.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 08/09/95
On my walkman this morning : Long Fin Killie - Houdini
Of human misery; we


Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:20:40 CDT
From: "Kent J. Vanderwaal" (kjv@ANDROS.CIM.CDC.COM)
Subject: Garbage

          artists@andros.cim.cdc.com, list@andros.cim.cdc.com

anybody heard the Garbage LP yet?
I've been wearing a hole in Sharks Patrol These Waters
where their song Vow resides...

i suppose *i'll* have to go get it myself...

My Ayn Rand anecdote.  Years ago I pulled Atlas Shrugged
off my friends bookshelf, opened to the first page and
read the first sentence:  "Who is John Galt?", then
I put the book back.  Years later I'm playing Trivial Pursuit
and our team is asked the question, What Ayn Rand novel starts
with the question, "Who is John Galt?".  Now most people playing
the game, asked, "Who is Ayn Rand?" (so, I hang around with morons,ok?)
I answered, "Atlas Shrugged".  People thought I was genius, I didn't
discourage them.


kent
kjv@mti.cdc.com


Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:54:35 -0500
From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard Chicago Tour Date


The LISA GERRARD performance will take place in the  Saint  Alphonsus  church
Atehenium Rectory Theatre. The church is located on the corners of Lincoln,
Southport and Wellington.

The date is November 17, 1995.  It is slighty larger than the Park West.
About 1,000 tickets will be sold.
-------------------------------------------
-a public service announcement from shill



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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 12:00:46 -0400
From: Rodney Rodriguez (ItsonlyRod@AOL.COM)
Subject: SCHEER 7" - Did I miss out on anything?


Just got the Scheer promo 7" from 4AD mail order and it didn't have a cover
on it at all.  It just had that black paper inner sleeve with the holes in it
so you can read the lables.  The kind they use for the bonus 7" for a 12" lp.
 Just wondering if there is in fact a cover for this.

As for the music, I had heard that it was *heavy*, heavier than the pixies
someone said (yikes!).  Well, it *is* heavy......not in the pixies/post-punk
sense, but......um, in the *heavy metal* sense of the word (high school
flashbacks - double yikes!!).  It is very *rawk*.  Maybe due to the fact they
are live demo recordings (I assume recorded in one shot)  Maybe it's the
drummer and those damn open high-hats.  I dunno.  I'm just getting tired of
the pearljamification of the radio airways.  Who knows, I may eventually like
it, these things do have a way of growing on me.  The female vocals are the
saving grace for me.  I'd like to hear what they sound like on the samplers.
 When is a propper release coming?

Country? Metal?  Whats next, Rap?

As confused as ever,
Rodney


Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:00:49 -0500
From: christopher hanis (chanis@SILVER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU)
Subject: Lisa Germano on Anon Compilation


Just saw an ad in the new Alternative Press for an "art/music"
compilation on Castle von Buhler records.  It's a double CD set,
including Lisa Germano, Eardrum (with Cranes guitarist Mark Francombe),
Cake Like, Edsel, sirensong, An April March, and "others from Boston,
Endland, and Canada."  The design looks very v23-ish.  It's apparently
going to be released in the next week or so.  It also includes 31 full
color cards and 1/2 the proceeds will go to an AIDS Action Committee
artist/musician fund.  The Lisa track is called "Angels turn to Devils"
if my memory serves correct.  It's being distributed by Feedback in the US
and by Ossia in Europe.  I could post the address, etc. if there seems to
be enough interest on the list.  The ad's on page 92 of the Oct. AP

Shameless plug:  If you turn a few pages from that ad to page 100, you
can see a review of my former band's tape under the heading "In Loving
Memory."  The tape is available for $5.00 ppd. and *everything* but the
cost of the cassette and the postage is being donated to AIDS charities.
The band ended prematurely due to the death of our singer/guitarist from
AIDS.  If you're interested, drop me a line!


|. .   .    . .   .  . .| Chris Hanis
|  .    .  .     .  ..  |
|.  .  .    )  .   .   .| cmhanis@nyx.cs.du.edu
| . .   .    .   .    . |
|.   ..   .   . .   .  .| http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~cmhanis/



Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:30:10 +0600
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Calliope


        TIM CONLON asked about Calliope:
>  While looking through the "pay us a dollar and take it out of our
>store" bin, I found this self-titled cd.  Sounds somewhat like Balloon
>and RHP (but with more instrumentation).  Its on the Thick label.
>Anyone have any information?

Yeah, i've heard she's very good and she's considered the muse of epic
poetry.  She lives on some mountain (Parnassus) in Greece.  I didn't know
she had a CD out, but it only makes sense.

-cz  (sorry, you did say "ANY information")

___<<<<<<<<<*********ckemnitz@students.wisc.edu********>>>>>>>>>___

"Eerie as sleepwalkers, vaguely absurd as dummies are-dummies that can
walk, blinking their useless lids at nothingness.   ...Round us all,
meanwhile, the city sings, and laughs, and screams, mad in pursuit of
pleasure, whereas I . . .  I too drag by, but wonder, duller still, what
Heaven holds for them, all these blind men?"     -Charles Baudelaire


Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 08:16:48 EST
From: Ricq Pattay (PATTAYR@FAGAN.UNCG.EDU)
Subject: Re: guitar talk yada yada yada


>>Jazzmaster (candy apple red, reissue) and Ibanez Artist (ES335 clone)
>but
>>I'm not in a band right now. As for the preponderance of Jazzmasters,
>Jags
>>and Rickies in dreampop bands, let's do a quick tally:
>>
>Charvel
>>Surfcaster)
>>Umm...anyone else have info?
>
>don't forget about Miki B. (lush) has a red Rick.
>umm,
>they use that fender 6 string bass thingy (that *looks* just like a
>jag.)
>well, the Cure use 'em too. shrug.:)
>
>any more???

I think Henry Frayne of M7x plays a Gibson SG - at least that's what it
looks like to me in their video.

But what's the tonal difference between Fender Jazzmasters, Jag's, and
Strats?  A Fender is a Fender is a Fender, huh?

Ricq - pattayr@fagan.uncg.edu


Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:50:45 -0700
From: Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: bootlegs in general


You wrote:
>
>>myself.  ever see merchandise from China?  they bootleg everything
they
>>can, i have a sweatshirt that has Mickey Duck on it, no kidding.
i've
>
>And you only bought one?!?  I know about 8,000 people, myself
included, who
>would've bought one :)
>
>
>Jake
>
you want to risk smuggling out of China?  be my guest :)


Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:45:12 -0700
From: Noah Slankard (slankard@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: guitar talk yada yada yada


> But what's the tonal difference between Fender Jazzmasters, Jag's, and
> Strats?  A Fender is a Fender is a Fender, huh?
>
> Ricq - pattayr@fagan.uncg.edu

        There's a lot of differences tonally between all of these, thanks
to the pick-up designs. Jags have a very dark, mid-rangey, dinky sound,
while Jazzmasters tend to have a warmer and brighter sound, due to the
wider spacing of the pick-ups' pole pieces; the wider the spectrum, the
warmer the sound...or something like that.    noah


Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:54:03 -0700
From: Kayleigh (uthelene@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Garbage


You wrote:
>
>anybody heard the Garbage LP yet?
>I've been wearing a hole in Sharks Patrol These Waters
>where their song Vow resides...
>
>kent
>kjv@mti.cdc.com
>
Yes i have heard it and Vow is the best track.  I'm still deciding on
the value of purchasing the whole thing when Vow, at the moment is
really the only track that stands out.  I would suggest that you give
it a listen before buying, it is one of THOSE types of releases.

and now for thislisty

still say Lisa Gerrard and voice rival that of some of the operatic
singers of today.  The resonance and timber of her tone is absolutely
incredible.  I appluad her for releasing such a artistic endeavor.
Here, here!

cheers, euthelene (or da' uth)  funky girl

Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 18:28:31 -0700
From: Super 31 (super31@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: drums 4 aberdeen (ad)


i'll only post this once so no one gets mad...

Aberdeen (Sarah Records) is looking for a drummer.
Call this number if you are interested: (818) 500-9718 (John)


Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 20:08:13 -0400
From: "[spiral]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Calliope


>   While looking through the "pay us a dollar and take it out of our
> store" bin, I found this self-titled cd.  Sounds somewhat like Balloon
> and RHP (but with more instrumentation).  Its on the Thick label.
> Anyone have any information?

i know these guys... east lanssing right??
well they used to be sixth with violet...
but the guitarist (clark) went on to form fibre...
both bands were amazing... and they each opened
for hnia at different times..

so now the rest of the kids are in calliope.
they are decent, but i might be biased. what
do you want to know specifically?? i can
tell you anything you want to know...
my brother sees them all the time and
likes them alot so whatever you want to know, ask.


                ---> [spiral]
                99lear@lab.cc.wmich.edu

Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 21:54:15 -0400
From: "...Future Dr. J.H. Rodrigues..." (drex@DORSAI.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: ATTENTION EVERYONE!!!


hey all;

sorry for the subject line, it is not so important.  i am just so happy that
        i bought my tix for the Lisa Gerrard show in nyc, i just had to share
        with u all.  :)  anyone else going to the oct 9th show @ The Town Hall,
        in nyc???   has anyone been to any of her shws yet?  how is it?

cheers!

JHR