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Subject: RHP lyrics
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 16:18:00 -0700
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Pearly, Pink & White; Cocteau Twins FCC live tour bootleg CD
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:18:27 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: faq's and the wild wild wild world of hnia...
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:25:10 -0700
From: ESP NoisegIRLY and jOHN (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: guitar talk yada yada yada
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:14:25 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: pram and sterling morrison
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:45:38 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE!!!
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:08:21 -0400
From: Alban De Bollardiere (abd50387@PEGASUS.CC.UCF.EDU)
Subject: Re: projekt newsgroup warranted?
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:19:44 -0700
From: "Michael S. Fischer" (msf@nsi.edu)
Subject: Facing the Wrong Way Available
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:01:53 -0400
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: A Y N and A M Y
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:39:54 -0500
From: Marvyn Hortman (hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US)
Subject: Re: Chalk one up for the cute li'l goth boy...
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:57:21 -0700
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: dewdrops 14 is out, Cocteau Fan Club
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:08:01 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: RE : Subscription Info
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:56:38 EDT
From: Scott_Schaefer.COMPUSERVE_CORP@NOTES.COMPUSERVE.COM

Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 16:18:00 -0700
From: Micah Newman (mnewman@WESTMONT.EDU)
Subject: RHP lyrics


        I remember a few months ago, someone wanted to know what the heck
Mark was singing at the end of "Down Colorful Hill" (the song). I just
visited an essential website that has lyrics to all their songs. I don't
know where they come from, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility that
they're official. They look pretty legit. Here's the location:
        It's part of a Red House Painters 'homepage' of sorts, although the
lyrics/cover scans are about the only thing on it.

Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:18:27 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Pearly, Pink & White; Cocteau Twins FCC live tour bootleg CD


> I have never heard a Cocteau boot I liked. In fact I have never
> heard ANY boot I've liked, period. I'm not an expert on bootlegs
> but I have always been disappointed by muddy/muffled sound
> quality with absolutely no dynamic range. Obviously soundboard
> recordings would eliminate the problem. I know of one these

Well, you just have to know what your dealing with before you buy... KTS
(and it's affiliated 'labels'), for example,  consistantly puts out
well-recorded/made (soundboard) boots.  Legality is another issue...

Mike

                            n9344881@cc.wwu.edu
  "He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over
 life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."


Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:25:10 -0700
From: ESP NoisegIRLY and jOHN (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: faq's and the wild wild wild world of hnia...


  actually, since the faq's have been split off into groups..i was just
  wondering: what sort of hnia related questions do people have? the
  only frequently asked one i can think of is "is hiiyh supposed to end
  like that?". not much faq fodder, i'd say. if someone can give me some
  suggestions, i could put together a nice li'l faq for the group...


  girly in heavy syrup, cricket the noiseprincess


  ...eskimo...


Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:14:25 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: guitar talk yada yada yada


>Jazzmaster (candy apple red, reissue) and Ibanez Artist (ES335 clone)
but
>I'm not in a band right now. As for the preponderance of Jazzmasters,
Jags
>and Rickies in dreampop bands, let's do a quick tally:
>
Charvel
>Surfcaster)
>Umm...anyone else have info?

don't forget about Miki B. (lush) has a red Rick.
umm,
they use that fender 6 string bass thingy (that *looks* just like a
jag.)
well, the Cure use 'em too. shrug.:)

any more???

                            -robert.

Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:45:38 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: pram and sterling morrison


this weeks' nme has a review of the new pram lp in which it gets a 0 (out
of 10, not that that matters). um, bit harsh. 'There seem to be two
people in Pram. One warbles appalingly and plays the cowbell while the
other fannies about [with their] Bontempi'.

also, nobody seems to have mentioned the death of sterling morrison on
this list yet. surely there's a direct link from the velvet underground
to these new fangled bands we all listen too (luna especially as he
played on the 2nd lp). i just thought somebody would have cared enough to
post a mention before now. it's a damn shame.

andyx (a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)
i just wanna be a tugboat captain...


Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:08:21 -0400
From: Alban De Bollardiere (abd50387@PEGASUS.CC.UCF.EDU)
Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE!!!


someone tell me why I unsubscribed from this list a week ago, got a
message back saying I had successfully unsubscribed, received nothing for
a week and suddenly, I am getting mail again..

                                thanks. (this is fustrating)

                                                Alban


Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:19:44 -0700
From: "Michael S. Fischer" (msf@nsi.edu)
Subject: Re: projekt newsgroup warranted?

              Christina Johnson on Fri, 1 Sep 1995 02:16:47 -0400)

>Looking at the number of recent posts regarding Projekt
>bands/albums/tours, I'm wondering if anyone thinks it would be a good idea
>to start a newsgroup devoted to primarily Projekt-related stuff [of
>course, I'm not volunteering to set one up, as I am generally an internet
>imbecile when it comes to understanding all the technicalities].  Would a
>Projekt group get much traffic on a regular basis?  Just something to
>think about.

While I think that a Projekt *mailing list* would perhaps be
appropriate (which I am willing to administer, in fact), I don't think
a newgroup would.  There are already 12812094 Usenet newsgroups, and I
don't think that we need a newsgroup for every stinkin' label out
there.  Those who are truly interested in Projekt will subscribe to
the newsgroup--there's no reason to flood everyone's news spools with
news not too many people will use.

So, would anyone out there like me to set this up?

--Mike

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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:01:53 -0400
From: Alex Wolfson (ajw6@COLUMBIA.EDU)
Subject: Facing the Wrong Way Available


I was I london for a little vacation (thank you for everyone who let me
know I sent the wrong command for stopping mail; unfortunately it came a
day too late) and after three visits to the Virgin Megastore got my
copy.  I truly dig it, but as every 4ad fan it never satisfied with what
he has.  I am willing to trade FTWW for the 13yi promo.  As I know that
they are tougher to get a hold of right now, for this limited time only, I
will add the GUP3 promo CD (That Dog, Insides, and Spoonfed Hybrid) in as
the kicker.  Please oh please oh please will someone trade me for a copy
of 13yi (my cassette copy is wearing thin).

Tons more to tell after being away for 14 days, but will have to post
more later.

16 September - Throwing Muses AND Air Miami at Maxwell's in Hoboken, the
coolest little venue this side of the milky way.  Anybody going to me for
some wild turkey before the show starts?

Alex

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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:39:54 -0500
From: Marvyn Hortman (hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US)
Subject: A Y N and A M Y


a l'il twee cricket chirped:

> ...your new ayn rand mega-enthusiast... read her. love her. live her.


You should read "The Six Pillars of Self-Esteem" by Nathaniel Branden.  He was
Ayn Rand's original "intellectual heir" before his split with her in the 60s.
He's now a world famous psychologist whose basic philosophy is that everyone is
responsible for their own self-worth and should not attempt blame their
short-comings on their environment or something their parents did, etc.

Anyway the above book is fantastic and if anyone wants a rather lengthy review
of it, I can send it to them.


On another note, the Amy Denio show was FANTASTIC!  If you're ever lucky enough
to see her, go!

She sang around 13 songs, the first four she played the accordian while she
sang, the next 4 she played a guitar and the last 4 or so she banged away on a
bass while singing.  All I can say is that she has the most incredible voice;
she's in a group out on a Swiss label called "pale nudes".  She's also in a sax
quartet called the "Billy Tipton Memorial Saxophone Quartet" in honor of the
late female saxophonist who went through her career posing as a man.  Some songs
she sang were in Russian, some in Italian, and even a couple in Czech!!  She
definitely fits right in with the females on "Heavenly Voices".  (She even sang
her famous "dishwasher" song!  :~D  )

My friend got the performance on video, but I haven't watched it yet so I don't
know how well it came out.  She was also slated to give a vocal workshop today
at DiverseWorks, but unfortunately I have to work so I couldn't go.  :(


marvynHortman (the reformed *O*bjectivist)

Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 22:57:21 -0700
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Chalk one up for the cute li'l goth boy...


>    It looks like there's gonna be ANOTHER Ivo at 4AD reeeeeal soon (like
>next week)


Congrats!

Now you won't have to tell us all the 4ad gossip second-hand.

Is this slave labor (like what I'm doing now) or are you going to
be paid?

Hey, you could even have an auction for all the interesting
bits of stationary, nail clippings, toe jam, and, um promos
that you collect.

-n


Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:08:01 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: dewdrops 14 is out, Cocteau Fan Club


Dewdrops #14 is now available, and with very few exceptions
all current subscribers should already have received a copy.
Many promo issues have not yet been mailed out, so if you're
expecting one (most of you know who you are) please be patient.
What with my favorite copier not being available anymore and
a recent two week vacation to Maine, things haven't quite gone as
planned. Now it's time to get caught up on e-mail, mail,
updating the web site (sound bytes are coming), helping to
organize the Cocteau Twins fan club once and for all, and so on.
All of this in my spare time.

The Cocteau Twins fan club.
Some of you probably know that this was the original goal
of Dewdrops, a goal that fell by the wayside through lack of
recognition, until last year when things really started to
progress. We interviewed Robin, met their management,
conversed over e-mail, and the band gave us the go ahead
to be their official fan club. Meanwhile Jack Huynh independently
set up the official Cocteau Twins Web Site, and someone in England
formed their own branch of the fan club. At least a year ago
a guy named Bryan Spidell (who some of you may know from trading
live tapes... it's my understanding that he recorded the master
tape used for the Dead Can Dance "East Of Eden" CD) independently
contacted Capitol and the Cocteau management to start a fan club.
He went so far as to print up sample issues , and he sent them to Capitol,
who forwarded his package to us, unopened, since to Capitol, we've
been the fan club all along. It eventually became clear that Dewdrops could not
be the ones to run the fan club, since it takes all our effort just
to run the record label and fanzine. So as of a couple months ago
we gave Bryan the task of organizing it, since he seemed to be
quite capable judging from the sample issues he had printed up.
Just yesterday I received some updated samples from Bryan along
with a proposal to the band (based in part on ours from last year)
for what the Fan Club will be. Pat and I were sufficiently impressed
with his efforts that we're forward his package to Robin as soon
as possible. I'm sure the band will be suitably impressed since
Dewdrops never really had the chance to present a proposal or
a specific sample of what we'd do for them, and they were ready
to let US do it... so I'm anticipating things to go smoothly.
So even though Dewdrops will NOT be the official fan club, we will
still be involved to some extent as contributors and promoters,
and perhaps even as an outlet, through our record label, for
exclusive fan club releases of material unavailable elsewhere
(Robin has said he'd be interested in doing this with us, which
floored me the first time I read it!)

What will the Fan Club consist of? Well, since it's Bryan's baby
I can't be too specific on details yet, but it will at least involve
a quarterly zine. What about overlap between the Web Site, the US
Club and the UK Club? Again it's Bryan's deal, but I think these
three "services" will definitely overlap to some extent in terms of
content and features, but will be independent of each other enough
to make each one worthwhile. The band has stated that (for obvious
reasons) the Web Site will be THE official service for the latest
news and features, and that whatever is published by either
fan club will be aimed toward those who do not have WWW access.

So we'll keep you updated about any developments. A fully functional
Cocteau Twins fan club is on the way, and it is likely to be in place
by the release of their next album.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 18:56:38 EDT
From: Scott_Schaefer.COMPUSERVE_CORP@NOTES.COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject: RE : Subscription Info


  Hello,

  What is the address to send subscription requests to ?

  Scott