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Subject: nevermind about the lovesliescrushing...
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 22:05:31 -0400
From: "[spiral]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: ignore me
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 08:35:40 +0200
From: Guy Vandekerckhove (Guy.Vandekerckhove@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: FOR SALE/TRADE: cds/vinyl; techno and more
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 00:27:23 -0600
From: pyromaniac on crack (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Re: mistakes one and two
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 19:23:47 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: FTWW
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:35:29 +0100
From: "'H'y" (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: air miami's me me me
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 01:29:04 -0700
From: lushmuse (eahu597@EA.OAC.UCI.EDU)
Subject: Re: lisa
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 23:09:28 -0400
From: Ian Frearson (Heiff@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: FSA, MBV-L; Swallow
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:11:25 -0500
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: ignore me
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:55:40 -0400
From: Laura Johnson (ljohnson@HUSC.HARVARD.EDU)
Subject: Re: mistakes one and two
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:13:01 -0500
From: "Jeffrey with 2 f's Jeffrey" (jenor@CSD.UWM.EDU)
Subject: address needed
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:00:48 -0700
From: ESP Sunshine and jOHN (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: ESP question
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 18:30:03 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: stereolab
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:59:57 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: UVS and Medicine
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 10:40:38 -0400
From: Initialboy@AOL.COM
Subject: main
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 15:53:42 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Time Stereo delivery
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 19:12:18 -0400
From: Ron Jost (RON@SYBEX.COM)

Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 22:05:31 -0400
From: "[spiral]" (99lear@LAB.CC.WMICH.EDU)
Subject: nevermind about the lovesliescrushing...


as i sent that little plea...
i noticed that a kind soul posted the address...
thank you... you cant flame me, im fire retarded.

                ---> [spiral]
                99lear@lab.cc.wmich.edu

Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 08:35:40 +0200
From: Guy Vandekerckhove (Guy.Vandekerckhove@RUG.AC.BE)
Subject: Re: ignore me


On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Laura Johnson wrote:

> test
>
Ok,we will all ignore you


Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 00:27:23 -0600
From: pyromaniac on crack (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: FOR SALE/TRADE: cds/vinyl; techno and more


i could do the obligatory 'sorry for the crosspost' but i fear einexile
flaming me ;) so i'll just say to him, ha ha ha you're getting this post at
least three times! :P jus' kiddin'.

once again i am cleaning the closets and waiting for job calls while
homework beckons and school is now ongoing, so these fine items are up for

Alien Community 1 & 2 (FAXUSA) - $11
Irresistible Force - Global Chillage (ASTRALWERKS) - $8
Secret Life of Trance III (RISING HIGH, 2cd, first track on CD1 scratched) - $14
The Beatles - The Beatles (Capitol) 2cd - $12
The Innocence Mission - Glow (A&M promo) - $8
Screaming Trees - Sweet Oblivion (Epic) - $6
Disco Inferno - Second Language CD5 (Rough Trade) - $6 (min. bid)
Madder Rose - The Love You Save CD5 (Seed promo) - $4
V/A - Just Say Anything (Just Say Yes Vol.6) - $5
Friends of Dean Martin[ez] - The Shadow of Your Smile (Sub Pop promo;
originally says 'martin,' not martinez) - $8
Number One Cup - Possum Trot Plan (Flydaddy promo) - $6
Daniel Ash - Foolish Thing Desire (Columbia promo) - $5
The Beloved - Conscience (Atlantic) - $7
V/A - Caroline Sampler Spring '93 w/revolver, walt mink, dim stars,
snatches of pink, and drop nineteens - $8 (min. bid)
Adorable - Sunshine Smile CD5 (SBK promo) - $6 (min. bid)
Front 242 - Official Version 1986-87 (Epic promo) - $7
The Sisters of Mercy - Some Girls Wander By Mistake (Elektra, ltd. ed.
w/postcards) - $10 (min. bid)
The Sisters of Mercy - Vision Thing (Elektra) - $7
Roger Waters - Amused To Death (Columbia) - $6
V/A - Honeymoon In Vegas (Epic Soundtrax) - $6
The Smiths - "This Charming Man" CD5 (Sire promo) - $5 (min. bid)
The Smiths - "This Charming Man" CD5 (Sire promo) - $5 (min. bid)
Duran Duran - Duran Duran (Capitol) - $6
XTC - Nonsuch (Geffen) - $6
Gene - Sleep Well Tonight 2-track promo (Polydor) - $4 (min. bid)
The Jesus and Mary Chain - Far Gone and Out (American holographic cd) - $7
(min. bid)
Loop Guru - The Third Chamber (Nation) - $11
Loop Guru - Duniya (Nation) - $11
Morrissey - Interesting Drug CD5 (Japanese 5-track EMI import) - $12 (min. bid)
Throwing Muses - Shimmer 1-song promo (4ad/WB 7566) - $5 (min. bid)
The Wolfgang Press - Going South 1 song promo (4ad/WB 7497) - $4 (min. bid)
The Wolfgang Press - She's So Soft 1 song promo (4ad/WB 7604) - $4 (min. bid)
Morrissey - You're the One For Me, Fatty CD5 (EMI) - $7 (min. bid)

*please buy this*
Morrissey - Singles Collection (13 cd singles in a lovely violet box, #1043
out of either 1500 or 2000 i believe, entire box and cd's in excellent
condition except for sleeve wear on suedehead CD5) - minimum bid $75


Goldie feat. Metalheads - "Inner City Life" (ffrr promo)              4
Synthadelic - "I'm A Secretary" (FAX)                                 8
Velocette - Microcosmik EP (Reflective)                               4
Chuck Phulasole - The Jonezin EP (+8)                                 4
Tricky - "Ponderosa" (promo)                                          4
Orb - Pomme Fritz (Island)                                            7
FFWD - FFWD double lp (Inter-Modo)                                    10
V/A - Septic Cuts (Sabrettes; Sabres of P. compilation)               6
Loop Guru - Duniya (Nation)                                           12
Seefeel - Time to Find Me (Too Pure; inc. Aphex remix)                6
Grid - Figure of Eight (Virgin)                                       5
Aphex Twin - SAW II (Warp #1361 out of 10K, brown vinyl, w/ stickers) 20
Psychick Warriors ov Gaia & Halo 2x12" (KK; w/ remix by dust bros.)   7
Orbital "Are We Here?" 2x12" (ffrr)                                   6
Wolfgang Press - Going South (4ad/WB promo)                           15
La Funk Mob - "Tribulations Extra Sensorielles" 2x12" (Mo'Wax)        10
Hardfloor - Funalogue (Planet Earth)                                  5
B12 - Electro-Soma (Warp; orange double vinyl; sleeve wear)           15
Aphex Twin - Analogue Bubblebath #4 (Rephlex)                         6
Cocteau Twins - "The Spangle Maker" (4ad)                             6
Colourbox - Colourbox LP (4ad; with bonus LP)                         20

prices are spur of the moment; if there is anything you think i'm asking
too much for or would be willing to purchase if it were a few dollars less,
tell me so. (i reserve the right to decline, but considering my current
situation, anything is possible.)

things i haven't listened to enough yet but will part with if the price is
right, inquire further if interested:
(all vinyl)
Biosphere - Patashnik (R&S)
Sun Electric - Kitchen (R&S; limited edition with bonus 12")
4Voice - "Eternal Spirit" (FAX)
4Voice - "Fairlight" (FAX)
Escape - "Escape to Polaris" (FAX)



also, i shouldn't do this, but i *am* looking for the following fax cds:

organic cloud (giving tetsu one last chance ;))
IF
dreamfish
IF2
outland

so if any of you out there are willing to part with those for some of what
i have for sale, get in touch. the cd's are in order of interest.

run $2-3 for a cd providing i can dig up a used mailer, $.50 more for a new
mailer, and $3-4 for rekkids, including mailer. this also depends on what
you want, and if you want to take a bunch of this stuff off my hands, i'll
pay for postage and throw in a few empty cd or cassette cases of a bunch i
found at home (which also means that any cd currently in a beat-up case
will get a new one before it goes bye-bye.)
i reserve the right to hold onto something if i don't think i'm getting a
fair price for it. y'all can whine and bitch about that, sok. i'm a greedy
toe-sucking capitalist pig, snort snort, who happens to keep holding on to
music
she really doesn't need.
i will accept bids well through next week, until about the 8-10th i imagine.
thanks in advance, and let's keep the responses to private email please,
.joanna.

---
joroses@mail.utexas.edu
andover '94
'there're pieces of me you've never seen' - tori amos
-
...in the afterlife, everyone plays guitar...
---


Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 19:23:47 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: mistakes one and two


On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Martin Wagner wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, einexile the meek wrote:
>
> > Hello? I was interested in what I assumed to be an opinion about the
> > quality of the work--NOT ITS EFFECTS ON YOU. You obviously do have an
>
> Not to defend this guy, e (I loved Euphoria and find this guy's
> criticisms to be poorly elucidated), but doesn't one's opinions of the
> merit of any work of art spring from subjective interpretation, i.e. its
> effects on the listener forming the opinion?

*sigh* I knew you were going to say that. :(

I distinguish between reactions and judgements as two subjective types of
responses. Subjective because none of us are gods who can write our
notions in stone and command them to be fact. But judgements are based on
aesthetic values which the observer believes (rightly or not) to be
grounded in objective criteria. His view of these criteria is subjective
only in that he may be in error. By contrast, a reaction is thoughtless.
Yes, I do think that thoughtless reaction is the purpose of music in the
first place, but if the discussion is to go beyond favorites lists, one
can't rely entirely on those, and I think a topic such as the current one
(which I had the good sense to call a flame war before its time, how
about that?) is a perfectly proper place for judgements. Elaun seemed to
have made one, and I was honestly interested in his reasoning because I
was under the impression that there was reason involved. (I do not mean
that facetiously.) If he had just said "Insides, yuck" (as in the case of
my much-flamed response to a certain fondly remembered Sonic Youth thread
a long time ago on a listserver far far away) or even "Belly are crap," I
might have responded on a more trivial level, but I didn't know at the
time that I was supposed to.

Basically, I like stupid fine, but warn me first. :)


 e

Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:35:29 +0100
From: "'H'y" (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: FTWW


Well, I've had my copy a few days now.

Am I the only person to enjoy and appreciate this FREE offering from 4ad.

Some of my thoughts.

Scheer - I liked the demo single and thought they might sound a bit
better with some decent production. But really, the guitar sounds like a
cheap Gibson copy played through a cheap distortion pedal into a car stereo.
I suggest accidently forget to record the lead guitar on the album. The
girl sounds nice - the nearest I have got to placing the voice is
Deliscious Monster.

Tarnation - split up already but I think they sounded like Nick
Cave/Tindersticks with a female singer.

Air Miami - The New Pixies ? looking foward to the new album.

Kim and the amps - more like 4-track Sonic Youth.

Lisa Gerrard - very moving track. On the basis of this I might be
convinced to buy the album.

Belly - always going to be brilliant.

Even Kendra Smtih sounded good on this cd.

Finally, and the pick of the bunch.  - Mojave.
Never could get into Pygmalion -but this is -just gorgeous. I hope the
rest of the album will be this good. If it was a cloud it would be one
those big fluffy ones.

Found an Xmal Deutschland peel sessions. Anyone want a track listing.
Also, the new Sarah records compilation, just out, is well worth a listen.

Ciao,

'H'y

'H' Cambridge

Stockholm Environment Institute at York
University of York, York, Uk.
Tel +44 1904 432992
Fax +44 1904 432898

Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 01:29:04 -0700
From: lushmuse (eahu597@EA.OAC.UCI.EDU)
Subject: air miami's me me me


hey everyone!

i just picked up a promo copy of air miami's "me me me" today.  i
listened to this 38 minute cd around 3 times now and it gets better with
each listen.  i'm not really familiar with material by unrest except for
the songs, "isabel" and "cath carroll".  if you like those 2 songs, i'm
sure you'll like this guy fixsen produced/engineered album.  it's catchy
from the start.  i was hoping the songs wouldn't sound like "pucker" from
the all virgos are mad cd but i really like this album.  here's the track
1.i hate milk
2.world cup fever
3.seabird
4.special angel
5.afternoon train
6.dolphin expressway
7.sweet as a candybar
8.you sweet little heartbreaker
9.neely
10.bubble shield
11.the event horizon
12.definitely beachy
13.reprise

i thought "airplane rider" was going to be on this album!  oh well...
a few more questions for you:

1. what does the new medicine sound like?  it's called "her highness"
right?  i read from you all that it's a lot weaker but do they sound
different from sfsl and the buried life?

2. what does flying saucer attack sound like?

that's about it...oh for those of you who want to know about this air
miami cd, it's the usual orange cd...the insert is dark sky blue, almost
close to the purple color from the liquorice (listening cap promo) insert
with a drawing of an airplane.  the catalog number is: 2-46000-A

laters!

p.s. kelli-jeanne: thanks for the esp summer tape....i just got it
today!


Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 23:09:28 -0400
From: Ian Frearson (Heiff@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: lisa


95-08-29 Aaron wrote:

> I heard the first lisa
>germano album was first available from capitol, and then was rereleased
>on 4ad.  But the capitol release is the one to get because 4ad remixed it
>all and the original version is better.  is that right?  and how hard is
>it to find?

My personal feelings from what I've heard of the two versions are that the
4AD version is MUCH better.  From the mouths of Lisa Germano fans, I've been
told that:  Capitol mixed the album THEIR way, which really made not a bit of
how to market her music.  When 4AD expressed an interest in her, Capitol was
apparently more than willing...   Supposedly LG supervised the 4AD remix and
did it HER way...  I've heard that the Capitol release is out of print, but a
friend of mine just recently picked it up new in New Orleans--perhaps there
are a lot of new copies still floating around out there?

Ian.


Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:11:25 -0500
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: FSA, MBV-L; Swallow


>3.  This is for FSA fans.  Any of you out there notice on Rainstorm
>Blues, about 2 and a half minutes into the song, that a girl gasps
>sharply?  I only hear it at that point in the song, and it sends chills
>down my spine.  A brilliant touch.
>

I don't hear it, where exactly?  (please reply via private on that one).

>6.  e --  if you're looking for some good content, head over to MBV-l.
>Then have a really in-depth discussion of MBV/noise bands/pushing the
>musical envelope type of thing going on over there.  Check it out.

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!  It's an ok list, but half of the content is things like:

"The first time I heard MBV, I shit golden eggs for a week."  MBV is the
band for me. . .(last sentance should be read aloud in a mindless droning
voice.)  The rest of it is ok, though.


I've only heard two Swallow songs, but I like their sound.  Could someone
send me a bio, or even just a little info.  They sounded like a cross
between Curve and MBV to me, only better. . .

bye,

eric


Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:55:40 -0400
From: Laura Johnson (ljohnson@HUSC.HARVARD.EDU)
Subject: Re: ignore me


On Thu, 31 Aug 1995, Guy Vandekerckhove wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Laura Johnson wrote:
>
> > test
> >
> Ok,we will all ignore you

Hey, thanks.

--->lbj


Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:13:01 -0500
From: "Jeffrey with 2 f's Jeffrey" (jenor@CSD.UWM.EDU)
Subject: Re: mistakes one and two


On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, einexile the meek wrote:

> responses. Subjective because none of us are gods who can write our
> notions in stone and command them to be fact.

Well I am, and I do.

You *did* just turn into a newt, did you not?

--Jeff

Jeffrey Norman                              "In two thousand years, they'll
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee            still be looking for Elvis.
Dept. of English & Comp. Lit.                This is nothing new,"


Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:00:48 -0700
From: ESP Sunshine and jOHN (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: address needed


Hey there,
Could someone please send me the address to these lists:
-Blur
-MBV
-dreampop

I'm trying to find someone who is on these lists... I don't want to
subscribe, but need the address to send mail to them.
Thanks.
    -jOHN


Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 18:30:03 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: ESP question


>Hello all,

Would someone answer me about the following question ?

>Q1. how much should I pay for ESP summer cassette?

$6 (us dollars) tops.

>Q2. how much should I pay for astrobrite/candyswirl?

depends on the flavor.

Moving with a hobble in my step,

Jason

srilank@aol.com

Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:59:57 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: stereolab


> Re: stereolab/maids of gravity
>
> Johnathan A. Rickman (jknee@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU)
>
> The new STEROLAB lp, "Refried Ectoplasm" (Switched On Vol. 2)
> will be out SEPT. 24th. Did anybody catch the STEROLAB track
> that came with the latest Melody Maker - statesidewise anyway?
> "Pop Quiz" I think. Is this an unreleased version?

close but no cigar. stereolab compilation is out (at least here in
england) on the 4th (a monday, next monday, woohoo) and not the 24th (a
sunday). track on tape was an inferior version of pop quiz taken from a
session for a radio show in scotland (i'd like a tape of the whole
session if anybody's got one. hey, worth a try). tape unavailable to
overseas readers, sorry.

--
cheers, andyx (a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)
we're not here to be bored...


Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 10:40:38 -0400
From: Initialboy@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: UVS and Medicine


>I am wondering if the MERCY SEAT ep/single/whatever was released on disc,
>or just 12"...  Someone once told me that he heard it was released as a
>very limited cd, along w/ the vinyl.  I aslo was told that 4AD was going
>to re-release a lot of the older singles that are now long out of print.
>This was all over a year ago...

Hmm, I guess then the lesson to be surmised is: don't hold yr breath.
 Y'know, I do recall seeing the 'Mercy Seat' EP listed in some import
distributor's catalog as being available on both 12" and CD, but that was
years and years ago.  While the absolutely godhead 12" version of "Mercy
Seat" was tacked onto the end of the UVS reissue on Columbia, the other two
gems on the EP (the original version of "Mercy Seat" notwithstanding) were
woefully ignored.  Admittedly, the Monkeywrench did a pretty amusing sendup
of Buffy Saint Marie's "Cod'ine," but among the three versions of that song
I'm aware of, I think Ralske's rendition stands above the other two (the
original included).  And "H Like in Heaven" is sheer beauty.

To change the subject, I really wonder how 'Her Highness' would have sounded
like if they did get someone like Guy Fixsen to twiddle knobs with Brad
Laner.

Cheers,


hk


--
Win95 = Mac88?

Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 15:53:42 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: main


er, a friend of mine bought an ep by main recently. it was just sitting
there in our price and there was nothing else in the shop that i wanted
and i, er, i mean he, just liked the cover. got it home expecting nothing
and it was really good, everything the last flying saucer attack
should've been. found two more singles in bristol recently and a lp
(motion pool) in cheltenham too. a couple of questions then, ok five
questions then, or six:

a) who are they? loop have been mentioned but...
b) are they releasing a single a month? certainly looks that way
c) is the other lp i saw (firmament) more like the first single (by which
i mean corona, hertz 1) than motion pool (which was a bit disappointing
at first but which i have grown to like lots, er, i mean my friend likes
it)
d) there is no d, sorry
e) anything else by them i, er, he should pick up.
f) firmament only seems to have two tracks on it. is this a misfiled,
mispriced ep or are they as long as, say, scum or an evening of
contempory sitar music.

anybody into, like, spacemen 3, fsa, er, loop and stuff should try one of
these things. i, he liked them so much i bought the company. or
something.

andyx
(a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)
hoping nobody on the indiepop list reads this...

Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 19:12:18 -0400
From: Ron Jost (RON@SYBEX.COM)
Subject: Time Stereo delivery


Hello,

I'm curious to hear from those of you who have ordered the ESP Summer
and other tapes from Time Stereo.  I have heard that the time of
delivery takes anywhere from 6 months to "don't hold your breath."
Is this true?  If so, does anyone know why?  I could care less about
the check I sent them, I'm just really anxious to hear the tape.
Has anyone had more success?  Is there anywhere else to purchase
the ESP Summer tape?

Thanks,

Ron


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