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Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard 'The Mirror Pool'
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 02:22:20 -0500
From: Kagin Lee (klee1@tiger1.ocs.lsu.edu)
Subject: Elysium show, FREE
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 02:53:17 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Elysium show, FREE
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:31:38 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Live: Love Spirals & Lovesliescrushing & SIDDAL
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:07:45 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Digest Problems?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:09:30 -0700
From: Julian Stewart (camus@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Elysium/Bel Canto/Monochrome Set??
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 18:22:33 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: rocket from the crypt/no balls/mojave
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 09:58:56 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.COM)
Subject: test, ignore
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 13:39:22 -0500
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Live: Love Spirals & Lovesliescrushing & SIDDAL
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:02:06 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lush / Cocteau Twins Guitar Effects
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:06:24 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: no. 181 TeenBeat Box Set
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 15:31:23 -0400
From: Bairmiami@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Lush / Cocteau Twins Guitar Effects
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:09:56 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: pinpointing the fall
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 15:38:18 -0400
From: "CHRISTIAN H. HANSEN" (chanse01@GUMEDLIB.DML.GEORGETOWN.EDU)
Subject: all yer fave 4AD bands in one tube!!!
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 16:16:57 -0500
From: Luke Warm (arthur@VOYAGERCO.COM)
Subject: Re: Pygmalion ignorance question and DCD influences??
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 14:15:30 -0800
From: Warren Harris (warren@NETSCAPE.COM)
Subject: MISTLE THRUSH, FREE in BOSTON TONIGHT 24AUG
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 18:33:34 EDT
From: D Andrew Reynhout (andrew.reynhout@ANALOG.COM)
Subject: Think I'm getting. . .Mojave
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 19:03:23 CST
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Pygmalion ignorance question and DCD influences??
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 18:19:32 -0700
From: Anaj (morticia@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: facing the wrong way?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 21:13:13 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: air miami review?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 21:10:17 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: Re: Pygmalion ignorance question and DCD influences??
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 03:57:59 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (lingebri@SUNSCIPW.CERN.CH)

Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 02:22:20 -0500
From: Kagin Lee (klee1@tiger1.ocs.lsu.edu)
Subject: Re: Lisa Gerrard 'The Mirror Pool'


That's interesting, i loved "filigree and shadow" and "the serpent's egg"
 so much because they weren't very challenging.  To me they were natural-
 sounding, though not simple like a theme to a tv show.  It was stuff i
 imagine anyone could enjoy without having built up a musical taste or
 character from their listening experience.  When i want challenging i
 prefer Webern or Edgard Varese.

kagin


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 02:53:17 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Elysium show, FREE


Elysium plays at Stage Left in Glendale this Friday night.
It's a FREE show. 208 N Brand Blvd. Stop by and say Hi to the
band, pick up a copy of the new CD _Glisten_ more cheaply
that you can get it anywhere else, and fall in love with their
mesmerizing performance.

Request them in the LA area on KXLU radio, 88.9 FM,
(with other college radio stations to follow soon)

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:31:38 -0700
From: einexile the meek (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Elysium show, FREE


On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Brant Dewdrops wrote:

> Elysium plays at Stage Left in Glendale this Friday night.
> It's a FREE show.

in an affected way but naturally) like Bel Canto's Anneli Drecker. Vocal
harmonies bring back fond memories of Strange Boutique. This with a
really interesting, pretty guitar style and competent, stylish playing
all around. Someone here can definitely write music. I want to make
positive comparisons to many bands but can come up with nothing accurate.
I second Brant's opinion of this band and I'm not even making any money
off of their toiling. :)

Someone go and see them in my place, as I will unfortunately miss this.


 e

The Chameleons! That's it! All that soft wash of guitar weaving in and
out. Not in the completely derivative way the M7x are guilty of (though I
adore them) but with some healthy strumming and a dash of dissonance.
Yummy.


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:07:45 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Live: Love Spirals & Lovesliescrushing & SIDDAL

              Pietrusko" at Aug 14, 95 12:59 pm

Robert,

Which show will you be at?  If I can make it, it will be to the Phila
show.

Holly


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:09:30 -0700
From: Julian Stewart (camus@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Digest Problems?


I've not received the digest for a good two weeks...

Does anyone know what is going on? Please send me email, as
I'm not getting list mail of any kind right now...

thanx,

-julian-


--
Julian Stewart
camus@netcom.com

Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 18:22:33 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Elysium/Bel Canto/Monochrome Set??


>On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, e quoted/wrote:

>> Elysium plays at Stage Left in Glendale this Friday night.
>> It's a FREE show.
>in an affected way but naturally) like Bel Canto's Anneli Drecker. Vocal
>harmonies bring back fond memories of Strange Boutique.

Do you mean the Monochrome Set album???


By the way, I got 2 Bel Canto 7"s (condition mint), up for sale:

Blank Sheets/Chaideinoi (CRAMMED DISCS, CRAM 15457, 1988)

White-Out Conditions/Maaligaabidaa (CRAMMED DISCS, CRAM 19457, 1988)

Anyone interested? (IF SO, PLEASE REPLY BY PRIVATE E-MAIL!)


Frank
++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 09:58:56 EDT
From: Alan Daniel (alan@MSAI.COM)
Subject: rocket from the crypt/no balls/mojave


i know this may not be the place for this, but i'm desperate.  a couple of weeks
ago rocket from the crypt was supposed to release a vinyl only full length
album limited to 5,000 copies.  it is on some indie, can't remember the name,
and not on interscope who is releasing a seperate album in a couple of months.
my question is, can anyone tell me if they have seen/have this.  if so, could
we possibly set up some arrangement so i could get it?  any help is greatly
appreciated.

about 4ad:
while moving the past few weeks, i discoved that i have an extro copy of the
'no balls' sampler.  i'm not quite sure how/when i got it, but there it
was.  if anyone wants it, let me know.  also, i may be able to get an extra
copy of the sampler and 7" that came out a couple of weeks ago.

lastly, i've been off the list for a few months and am a little behind, so
sorry if this has been mentioned here a thousand times already.  is mojave
the new name for slowdive when they signed to 4ad?  i surely hope this is
true, the signing anyway, the name doesn't matter.  if anyone wants the
'mourningrise' e.p., a friend of mine saw one the other day for $10.  it may
still be there.

thanks,
alan
alan@msai.com


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 13:39:22 -0500
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: test, ignore


If you disobeyed my orders and read this, I'm sending a message to see how
many are subbed to the list.  I'm getting the impression that many are
being booted accidentally.

bye,

eric

Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:02:06 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Live: Love Spirals & Lovesliescrushing & SIDDAL


You wrote:
>
>Robert,
>
>Which show will you be at?  If I can make it, it will be to the Phila
>show.

    i am going to be at the one in Philly. i should be easy to spot.
i'll be one of the few NOT wearing black in that horrid place. hehe.
perhaps, i'll wear yellow. Yes, that's the answer! :)
    if you know what Sam Rosenthal looks like i might be by him if he
shows up. we've writen via snail mail for about a year, so it will be
nice to see him in person if he comes. i hope to see you there.


                                -robert.

Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:06:24 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lush / Cocteau Twins Guitar Effects


>        Tuning is alson a question - Emma and Miki have to use
>(I think) open tuning to get that jangly, harmonic sound I LUV
>so much!!!!!   :)
>
>
just get yourself a 12 string hollow body with lots of chourus and
delay. shrug. this coming from a drummer, but it's what our guitarist
uses when he wants that sound.

                                        -robert.

Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 15:31:23 -0400
From: Bairmiami@AOL.COM
Subject: no. 181 TeenBeat Box Set


The latest TeenBeat catalog says they've sold out!  Whaaaaa!  I'd appreciate
any info on wrecka stows that have it in stock.  I can't find any in my area
(north central Indiana).


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:09:56 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Lush / Cocteau Twins Guitar Effects


You wrote:
>
>On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, Darrin wrote:
>
>>         Desperately seeking info on the guitars, tuning, effects
pedals,
>> amps, etc., Cocteau Twins and Lush use to get their awesome guitar
>> effects.
>
>
>Robin and maybe Emma use an apparatus called the "e-bow".
>It vibrates the string without plucking it to get those spacey
>solo sounds (e.g. Pink Orange Red).  Thats all I know...there
>is liberal use of multiple tracks on both groups studio efforts.  It
>sounds like both are chorus masters as well.

e-bows are great, and cheap!!! you can get from around like $60-$80.
well worth the money. and if you have no guitar talent (yours truely)
they are fun to pretend that you know what you are doing.


                                        -robert.

Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 15:38:18 -0400
From: "CHRISTIAN H. HANSEN" (chanse01@GUMEDLIB.DML.GEORGETOWN.EDU)
Subject: Re: pinpointing the fall

              22, 95 10:06:03 pm

>
> good post christian.
> while everyone's talking about the fall of 4ad, I'd be
> interested to hear what release (or series of releases, or
> economic period, blah-blah-blah) people think was the
> negative turning point for 4ad.  ANd let's see if we
> can do this with enciting too much of a flame war...
>
> mike
>

       Well, for myself, a complete 4AD addict for several years, the
moment I began to feel really nauseated was around the time they
released "Insides" and "The Glee Club".  There's something to be said
for experimental music, but then again, there's also something to be
said for tastefullness.  The combination of the two was what I always
considered the hallmark of 4AD.  Other independent labels couldn't
always get the balance quite right.  So, I suppose that 4AD has begun to
show signs that they too have this problem.  Too bad really.  By the
way, I may sound cynical, but I haven't lost all hope.  The last Pale
Saints was excellent.  There's always room for another Ivo project.
Someone mentioned "Blood" a while ago on the list as a sort of
continuation of This Mortal Coil.  I'm wondering . . .

                        chh


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 16:16:57 -0500
From: Luke Warm (arthur@VOYAGERCO.COM)
Subject: all yer fave 4AD bands in one tube!!!


i hate people who do what i'm about to do, but i thought perhaps i'd be
doing someone a big favor by offering this here instead of selling it to my
local record store. so....

i have a v23 poster set volume two (FAD23) that i am considering parting
with. all of the posters are in mint condition (they've never been opened)
and are still in the handsome v23 tube that they came with. contents
are......

1. heidi berry-love
2. this mortal coil-blood
3. his name is alive-home is in your head
4. heidi berry-heidi berry
5. belly-star
6. swallow-blow
7. frank black-frank black
8. michael brook-cobalt blue
9. red house painters-down colorful hill
10. lush-black spring
11. breeders-safari
12. pixies-trompe le monde

i'll even throw in a mazzy star poster.

so if you're dying to own this poster set, E-MAIL ME PERSONALLY AT:

arthur@voyagerco.com

with a resonable offer and who knows what could happen......

-r.


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 14:15:30 -0800
From: Warren Harris (warren@NETSCAPE.COM)
Subject: Re: Pygmalion ignorance question and DCD influences??


Hi Jens,

I'm on the list. I'm curious why this isn't just a newsgroup.

Warren

>At 9:46 AM 8/21/95, Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
>>Has DCD ever
>>cited Joy Division as an influence?? Or could it all be quite organic:
>>two groups with sonorous male vocals over enigmatic instrumentation??
>
>There are Joy Division influences all over DCD's first self-titled album
>(the only one I really like.) Even Lisa Gerrard's "Ocean" has a melody very
>similar to the bassline of "24 Hours".
>
>Slowdive's "Pygmalion" is import-only. Buy it anyway, it's one of the few
>things I've heard this year that's worth $25. Easily their best work since
>their first single (with the possible exception of the "5EP".)
>
>__________
>Jens Alfke|__________________     "In this story we sit down on Luna Bridge
>           jens@mooseyard.com|     And catch snow in our cupped hands
> __________________________        And music is coming from the houses
> http://www.inow.com/~jens/        Or it sings inside me. I begin to mend."
>                                                             --Karen Peris

Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 18:33:34 EDT
From: D Andrew Reynhout (andrew.reynhout@ANALOG.COM)
Subject: MISTLE THRUSH, FREE in BOSTON TONIGHT 24AUG


MISTLE THRUSH, FREE in BOSTON TONIGHT 24AUG
MISTLE THRUSH, FREE in BOSTON TONIGHT 24AUG

For folks in the Boston (all right, Cambridge really) area-

Mistle Thrush is playing a free show tonight at MIT outside the
Student Center.


Also, the new Mistle Thrush record, _Silt_, will be out in late
September on Bedazzled.  Most of the tracks will be familiar to
frequent showgoers, but some are relatively new.  They're all
really strong, and very well produced.  If you're a fan of pure
and upfront female vocals with swirly guitars and martial drums,
I think you'll be pleased.
I've spent the last three days or so cursing the fact that I no
longer have a tape deck in my car and can only listen to the tape
at home.  :-)  I can't wait to hear it on CD.

Stay tuned to http://www.iuma.com/Bedazzled for updates, or send
mail to MstlThrush@aol.com to be added to the mailing list.

Andrew

--
Andrew Reynhout                                
Analog Devices / Computer Products Division  vox: (617)461-3987  fax: -4241
"You've got your whole life to do something, and that's not very long."-ani


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 19:03:23 CST
From: eric (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Think I'm getting. . .Mojave


Just picked up "TIGTHOI" tonite.  Haven't listened to any of it but the
Mojave track (except the first few seconds of Scheer -- I wanted to find out
why they suck.  Sounds like 4AD's attempt to cash in on the popularity of
Bush and bands like Soundgarden.)

The tempo is reminicent of "Blue Skied an' Clear" on Pygmalion.  It does,
however, have sort of a country-ish/Mazzy Star-ish sort of flavor to it,
which disturbs me a little bit.  One song is ok, but I'm not sure I'll like
a whole album of it, though.  But, I guess if anyone can pull it off, Neil
and Rachel probably can.  Rachel sings, very pretty.  A couple of days ago
someone posted the lyrics and they sound right on to me.  The lyrics on this
song are unaffected, and more clear and to the front of the song than
previous Slowdive stuff.  I would recommend the album, but not as strongly
as I would a Slowdive release.

For the record, my other purchases were:

happened to see it for 7.50)

Bark Psychosis:  Hex

May)

that's all for now, folks,

eric

Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 18:19:32 -0700
From: Anaj (morticia@GLADSTONE.UOREGON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Pygmalion ignorance question and DCD influences??


        Actually, I didn't care for Pygmalion all that much. I thought it
was too techno, with very few vocals. I loved Souvlaki, even though they
turnedmore techno towards the end of the CD, but Pygmalion did NOT sound
like Slowdive to me. I was sorely disappointed. IMHO Slowdive should
return to the "swirling vocals" of before.

                                                -M

******************************************************************************
"I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke
 shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry."

                                -Baldrick BLACKADDER


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 21:13:13 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: facing the wrong way?


does anyone have a copy of this that they'd be willing
to sell/trade? I have a long list of 4ad and realated cs
and vinyl that I will be posting to the list soon, and whoever
can offer this sampler to me now will get first dibs at my
long, long list. (or if that's not enticing, I've got
$ too).

thanks
mike

Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 21:10:17 -0500
From: MGARRETT@DEPAUW.EDU
Subject: air miami review?


wasn't someone going to post a personal review of the air miami
album? did I miss it or something? I'd really like to hear people's
impressions of it.

thanks
mike

Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 03:57:59 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (lingebri@SUNSCIPW.CERN.CH)
Subject: Re: Pygmalion ignorance question and DCD influences??


Warren Harris  writes:

> I'm on the list. I'm curious why this isn't just a newsgroup.

For a quick answer to that strange question, go take a peek at
"alt.music.4ad".

The horror! The horror!

Oh, btw, to potential buyers of FAD23, that tube of posters - that
tube is common as grass. Last time I checked, well-stocked music
stored had it for whatever the original price was.

It's quite nice, though.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars in Geneva