Subject: Rough Trade address
Subject: Re: Lush Video Wanted
Subject: FACING THE WRONG WAY
Subject: FACING THE WRONG WAY
Subject: Re: For Sale: The Saddest CD Sale Of All Time
Subject: Re: Critically Critical Critics
Subject: Re: various artists and ivo's no balls (a response)
Subject: Auction, sale and ARGGHHH!
Subject: Re: cocteau bootleg cd
Subject: Help me....!
Subject: RHP "shock me"
Subject: Re: anita lane (was reviews....)
Subject: Re: FACING THE WRONG WAY
Subject: Re: FACING THE WRONG WAY
Subject: Re: Aurora, HV III
Subject: Re: No Algonquin Round Table, This.?
Subject: FACING THE WRONG WAY part 2
Subject: a test for marvyn
Subject: mojave lyrics - yes,
Subject: Re: For Sale: The Saddest CD Sale Of All Time
Subject: Lisa G. Tour Dates/4AD cat. URL
Subject: Re: FACING THE WRONG WAY
Subject: Stereolab + Luna = Freakin' and Peakin'!
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:56:54 -0700
As promised, here is the Rough Trade address:
66 Golborne Road
London, W10 5PS
Write for a catalogue.
Mail order prices (postage, packaging, taxes included)
ALL PRICES ARE IN POUNDS, UK+Europe / Rest of World
CD 13.40/14.00
LP 9.50/11.00
CS 8.70/9.20
12" 5.40/6.70
CD single 5.00/5.70
7" 3.00/3.50
For CDs to the US, that's around $22, at most $5 better than
I can do at a place like Aron's in Hollywood, but take away a few
bucks (?) to cover the money exchange, and it's not all that much better.
They do not take credit card orders.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:06:27 -0700
You wrote:
>
>Can anyone help me find a dub of "Nothing Natural". Trade other Lush
>video, Cocteau Twins?
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Monty
>
I don't know if I replied to you or not but, I do have a copy of
nothing natural, But It's in bad shape, Interested?
brian
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:41:17 +0200
Today I recieved the (digipack) cd 'Facing the wrong way' from 4AD mail-order:
on this cd 13 selections from current and forthcoming albums on 4AD
tracks are:
Scheer - Take You Anywhere
Throwing Muses - Snakeface
Red House Painters - Summer Dress
Tarnation - The Well
Air Miami - You Sweet Little Heartbreaker
Mojave - Love Songs On The Radio
Belly - Super Connected
The Wolfgang Press - Christianity (Wicked Man Remix)
Heidi Berry - Miracle (New Version)
Lisa Gerrard (Sanvean)
Liquorice - Cheap Cuts
Kandra Smith - Valley Of The Morning Sun
The Amps - Empty Glasses (Kim's Basement 4 track version)
Catalogue number: FTWW 1 CD
(there is somekind of purple 'flower' on the sleeve)
Kim Deal's NEW album available: oktober 1995 !!!
emiel efdee
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:45:04 +0200
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 01:05:37 -0700
"The Saddest CD Sale Of All Time"
- Latest Bids -
Here are the latest bids as of Thursday, the 14th of August.
To up any bids listed here please email me personally.
This sad sale will end Friday the 18th at Midnight (P.S.T.)
I'll post everyone who has the high bids on Saturday or Sunday.
For payment you may send Money Order, well concealed cash,
or a personal check (although I'll have to wait till it clears the bank
before I send you your stuff) make checks payable to: Adam Cooper
For orders under $25 I will send the goodies through
fourth class mail, for orders over $25 I'll send them through
first class mail.
*Send payments to:
Adam Cooper
Post Box 616
Tempe Arizona
USA
Adorable
"Sunshine Smile" Import EP $8.00
"Sunshine Smile" Domestic EP $5.00
"Sistine Chapel Ceiling" EP $10.00
"I'll Be Your Saint" EP $10.00
"Homeboy" EP $7.00
"Vendetta" EP $9.00
"Kangaroo Court" EP $10.00
Boo Radleys
"Kaleidescope" EP- $22.00
"Every Heaven" EP $22.00
"Boo UP" EP $16.00
"Boo! Forever" EP
"Lazy Day" EP
"Wish I Was Skinny" EP
"Lazarus" EP
"The Lazarus EP" Remixes
"Barney & Me" EP
"I Hang Suspended" EP
Blueboy
"River" EP $10.00
Breathless
"Heartburst" Compilation $8.00
Catherine Wheel
"Balloon" EP w/ live tracks $20.00
"Crome" LP in chrome cover
Chapterhouse
"Pearl" EP- $19.00
"Freefall" EP $20.00
"Freefall" EP $20.00
"Sunburst" EP $21.00
"Mesmerise" EP $16.00
"Blood Music" LP w/o insert $5.00
"Global Communication" remixes $35.00
"She's A Vision" EP $9.00
"We Are The Beautiful" EP $8.00
Curve
"Blindfold" EP $5.00
"Cherry" EP `` $10.00
"Frozen" EP
East River Pipe
"She's A Real Good Time" EP (Sarah) $10.00
"Goodbye California" EP (Sarah) $12.00
"Shining Hours In A Can" LP (Ajax) $10.00
Ectasy Of Saint Teresa
"...Fluidtrance Centauri" (Free) $10.00
LIlys
"Tone Bender" EP $12.00
"In The Presence Of Nothing" LP $8.00
"A Brief History Of History...." mini LP $5.00
Moose
"Liquid Makeup" (Cool Badge) $13.00
"Sonny And Sam" Compilation $12.00
"Bang Bang" (Play It Again Sam) $10.00
My Bloody Valentine
"Tremelo" EP $8.00
"Isn't Anything" LP $5.00
"Loveless" LP $10.00
Northern Picture LIbrary
"Blue Dissolve" EP $9.00
"Love Song For The Dead Che" EP $10.00
"Last September's Farewell Kiss" EP $12.00
Pale Saints
"Blue Flower" 1 song Promo $5.00
"Flesh Baloon" EP $6.00
"Mrs Dolphin" Japanese Import $30.00
"Fine Friend" EP $5.00
Seefeel
"More Like Space" EP $8.00
"Quique" LP $12.00
"Polyfusia" LP $12.00
"Starethrough" EP $10.00
Secret Shine
"Loveblind" EP (Sarah) $7.00
"Untouched" LP (Sarah) $12.00
Starflyer 59
"She's The Queen" EP $10.00
"Starflyer 59" LP $15.00
Slowdive
"Holding Our Breath" EP $60.00
"Blue Day" French Import $40.00
"Outside Your Room" EP $20.00
"5EP" EP $23.00
"5EP" (in mind remixes) EP $20.00
"Soulvaki" Domestic LP w/ 2 bonus tracks $5.00
Swallow
"Blow" LP $10.00
"Blowback" remixes $14.00
"Hush" EP (Rough Trade) $14.00
Sugargliders
"Top Forty Sculpture" EP (Sarah) $6.00
"Trumpetplay" EP (Sarah) $6.00
"Will We Ever Learn" EP (Sarah) $6.00
Ultra Vivid Scene
"Special One" EP $5.00
"Staring At The Sun" EP
"Joy 1967-1990" LP
Wedding Present
"George Best" LP $5.00
"Peel Sessions 1987-90" $5.00
Compilations
"Why Popstars.." Slumberland Comp $7.00
"Sunny Sundae Smile" Sunday Comp $7.00
"Tomorrow's Hits.." Summershine Comp $7.00
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:54:36 +0100
Why is everyone being so critical on this list.
Auctions, junk mail, ""4ad isn't what it used to be"" etc.
It seems that people are more interested in slagging people off than
talking about the music.
For instance, the new FREE CD "Facing the wrong way". Or whatever its called.
Why is everyone whingeing about what's on it.
This compilation hasn't been made for 4ad completists. Ivo didn't sit
down and think "What shall I put on this CD for my friends on 4AD-L".
I think the purpose of this is to attract people to the new and recent
releases coming out of 4ad. ie ordinary Joe Public goes into his local
Virgin sees he can get a Pixies CD cheaper than normal and with it he gets a
free CD of stuff he's never heard of by 4AD. He then goes home listens to
the new free CD and decides that he likes the Red House Painters track.
He then goes out the following week and gets Ocean Beach. Also, in the
back of his mind is that Scheer track so he places an order. This is therefore
a bit of a marketing ploy by 4ad.
I mean the CDs free for f's sake. Its not an attempt to be another Lonely
is an Eyesore.
People are also complaining that they don't like the new stuff 4ad are
releasing. Hey, they're not forcing you to buy it. There's no rule saying
'Thou dost like music by 4ad so thou must buy everything they release'.
I got both the Liquorice and Kendra Smith CDs and on first impressions
wasn't too impressed. Since I decided to give them another go and I'm
just beginning to warm to them. Maybe some people on this list should do
the same.
Enough said,
'H'y
'H' Cambridge
Stockholm Environment Institute at York
University of York, York, Uk.
Tel +44 1904 432992
Fax +44 1904 432898
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 20:58:38 +0900
If anybody haven't reply to this. (maybe i'm wrong)
At 1:09 PM 95.8.15 -0600, drew schwickerath wrote:
>pale saints - i found, but didn't pick up a copy of "in ribbons"
>(without the liner notes) in the used bin the other day. should i
>rush back and see if they still have it? being as i haven't heard
>them, but have heard so many opinions on old, versus new stuff, i'm
>unsure. this one is more time-critical, since i would need to rush
>back before someone else snaps it up.
Of course, you should.
(it is not rare, but is worth getting)
Masaya
---
Maoko & Masaya Toyokawa
Nansei,Mie, Japan
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 12:50:40 BST
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:05:24 -0400
>>>he track list is: pur / pitch the baby / heaven or las
vegas / for phoebe still a baby / know who you are at every
age / road, river & rail / evangeline / whales tails /
carolyn's fingers / bluebeard / summerhead / iceblink luck /
blue bell knoll / cico buff / a kissed out red floatboat /
ella megalast burls forever / pink orange red<<<
This track listing isn't accurate. I have this show on VIDEO tape. They
failed to include "Aikea-Guinea" -- unless that's what they thought was
"A Kissed Out Red Floatboat" (a song that wasn't even on the set lists
for the '94 tour). The rest of it seems right, however.
For those of you not too familiar with the shows from that tour (i.e. if
you didn't make it to one of them), don't be too shocked by the fact that
Liz barely sings any of the songs the way they were originally sung, except
for a handful, if that -- and then only barely. I think "Pitch the Baby"
is almost exactly the way it would normally be sung...as well as stuff
from Four-Calendar Cafe. She had consciously decided that she was going
to change her voice in the middle of the tour, so lots of vocal improvi-
sations are going on, some not-so-great sounding. Brant (of Dewdrops)
can confirm that Robin and the rest of the band weren't all too thrilled
about it, but oh well. Liz will be Liz. Some of the improvs come off
rather strikingly, like "Aikea-Guinea" and "Pink Orange Red"...then
you've got something like "Carolyn's Fingers", where she sort of loses
it live. Again, this only happened on the latter half of the tour. I
have a tape of their Paris show, and it rocked. *WAY* better than any
of the shows I saw or heard in the U.S. -- and the BEST live version
of "Carolyn's Fingers" I've ever heard, as well.
Mike
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:55:13 -0500
This is a test. If anyone on 4ad-l recieves this, please respond to me
personally to let me know what is going on with the list. I stopped getting
messages from 4ad-l about 3 days ago, but when I try to resubscribe at
[email protected], it tells me:
> You are already subscribed to the 4AD-L list as "Marvyn Hortman".
>
> Summary of resource utilization
> -------------------------------
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> Overhead CPU: 0.010 sec Paging I/O: 5
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Anybody else been having problems? (PS, the listserv has my proper email
address, etc.) Should I try and talk to Jim?
marvynHortman
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:05:56 -0700
I am a HUGE RHP fan and want to be in possession of all their releases.
But before I order "shock me" from CDNow, I must know: what songs are on
it, and which ones are covers?
Please reply to me personally, as I have just now unsubbed
temporarily.
Thanks...sugaredglowing,
Micah
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:19:56 -0600
On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, einexile the meek wrote:
> I am told that one of the tracks is from 'ghosts...' Does this mean An
> Ambush of Ghosts? I can't find her on here anywhere, nor do I see
> Humberstone/Humberstone anywhere in your message. ;) Thank you for the
> track listing.
yes, i forgot to mention this.....'A Prison In The Desert' is from the film
'Ghosts.....Of The Civil Dead' so, no, it's not aquainted with the ITN
film soundtrack.
alright, forget almost everything i said about this record yesterday.
this is BRILLIANT! this is the best rediscovery i've made in a long
time. i must have bought a bunch of other records when i bought this one
and didn't give it a fair listen.
there are a couple of throwaways on this but the rest is like this....
intimate, scary, tragic, sexual.....you'll want to cry or hide in the
corner and fend off the monsters from under the bed (or both at the same
time). 'Picture of Mary' will crush you if you have any emotion in you
at all, not because of the 'story' it tells but just the overall
effect. the stuff from 'Dirty Sings' is not bad at all (like i said
yesterday), but intense, wonderful stuff. fans of the whole
cave/c&cs/neubauten/b.party thing will revel in this.....i wish you all
luck in tracking down a copy.
and e., thanks for reminding me of this. i'd gladly take a c&cs dub as i
only know them from soundtracks and a few songs on mix tapes.....write me
and let me know if you really want to do it.....
.thosemali'saren'tgonnamakeit.........mark.
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:00:27 -0700
On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Emiel Efdee wrote:
> Today I recieved the (digipack) cd 'Facing the wrong way' from 4AD
> mail-order
You mean you just plain bought this? This is a proper sampler cd
available for purchase? Was this ever mentioned before on the list? (I
never heard of it.)
> Mojave - Love Songs On The Radio
Is this the name of the song on _...think I'm getting the hang of it_?
> The Amps - Empty Glasses (Kim's Basement 4 track version)
> Kim Deal's NEW album available: oktober 1995 !!!
Uhh...someone tell me what's going on. The Amps. Kim Deal's new band? Am
I completely out of it or what?
> Catalogue number: FTWW 1 CD
* total confusion *
e
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:42:23 -0500
On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, einexile the meek wrote:
> Uhh...someone tell me what's going on. The Amps. Kim Deal's new band? Am
> I completely out of it or what?
> * total confusion *
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:53:02 -0700
You wrote:
>
>Any Aurora fans out there?
>
>What's the status on the Heavenly Voices III comp? Any news?
the comp came out last week at least here in minneapolis, the store i
go to was out already. so go beg for it now =:0
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:57:36 -0700
You wrote:
>
>A lot of folks have been complaining in recent days about the alleged
>decline in the level of intellectual give-and-take on the 4AD list.
>...
>
>So, my point is, that the list should not get unduly down on itself.
>It may be in a slump, but surely things will right themselves soon.
>In the interim,let's be nice to each other, respect each other,
>observe our netiquette and try to report with honesty, sensitivity and
>enthusiasm on the best of what's out there. The masterpieces will
>come in time, and we want to be ready for them.
>
>Dave G.
>
amen.
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 01:12:15 +0200
>You mean you just plain bought this? This is a proper sampler cd
>available for purchase? Was this ever mentioned before on the list? (I
>never heard of it.)
I didn't buy the cd... I bought Lisa Gerrard's Mirror Pool cd, and the FTWW
cd came together with that one.
A nice bonus! It's the same one as mentioned in the VOX-add. It's FREE.
>> Mojave - Love Songs On The Radio, Is this the name of the song on
>>_...think I'm getting the hang of it_?
I don't know, I haven't heard the TIGTHOI? cd...
> Kim Deal's NEW album available: oktober 1995 !!!
YES, it's printed in green and white on the sleeve... (the Empty Glasses
>Uhh...someone tell me what's going on. The Amps. Kim Deal's new band? Am
>I completely out of it or what?
NO you're not out of it
YES I think The Amps is the name of her solo-project-cd
>> Catalogue number: F(acing)T(he)W(rong)W(ay) 1 C(ompact)D(isc)
...
still total confused?
E(miel) E(fdee)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:28:19 -0700
Just kidding! This is actually a long overdue review...
Autechre - Garbage
------------------
These guys never fail to shock, but this never ruins anything. Garbage is
another very strange Booth/Brown record that nevertheless works
perfectly. This is not any kind of self-indulgent weirdness but true
inspiration. Nonsense congeals and becomes funky. A mess of filtery
matter forms a flock of chords, rhythmic and sweeping you away. The beats
scatter all around and are wild. Sometimes one wonders just what the hell
is going on. Still, this is music you can relax to, fall asleep curled up
inside. Garbagemx36 does all this and then drops in melodies and
decorations, floods the scene with lush chords like you hear on Bike or
444, and we end with a classic Ae-bleak moment, perfect for the world's
demise or a dawn spent alone. It is very moving. PIOBmx19 begins with a
very hip assault and adds in ambience which again comes together, like
glass shattering in reverse, into a killer dance multipattern. Super
cool. It builds to a plateau and then rides a smooth trance to near the
end of the track, where it starts an echoing breakdown much like the
ultrabrilliant Yulquen off the Amber album. Bronchusevenmx24 stands the
skeleton of its predecessor up and walks it around like a toy, the
remnants of its spirit swimming dreamily about it. The result, though
quiet, peaceful, and beautiful, is menacing. Wispy beats form at the
gates and take over, dancing with noise and yummy autechreclicks as they
join in and fill the song. And another classic Autechre ending as we draw
in on elements we didn't realize were there and are left with only their
afterimages. Is that a real clarinet? The artwork on this cd is a blurred
and mutilated version of the photograph featured on Amber, which causes
me to wonder if this whole disc is somehow derived from that album, but
hell if I can place the connection, or for that matter even the
connection between any but the second and third song on this ep. Track
four, VLetrmx21, is a beatless pure treasure, a sacred snowfall. As it
intensifies, the vibrations form their own song and lost melodies sneak
through barely noticed through the gaps. The song and album fall off
slowly together, dwindling away. This is a brilliant ep, as atmospheric
and exquisite as perhaps all of Amber, and it is *long* at 40 minutes,
the first track, 15 minutes long, flies past without you realizing. It
took me forever to get hold of this but it was certainly worth the wait.
Highly recommended to anyone who liked any of their previous material. It
is Autechre at their finest.
e
Sorry if you don't like Autechre, marv ;)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:26:20 -0700
i know: i am a pathetic drooling slowdive junkie :( someone
please help me before it's too late...
On Sat, 19 Aug 1995, Emiel Efdee wrote:
> >> Mojave - Love Songs On The Radio, Is this the name of the song on
> >>_...think I'm getting the hang of it_?
>
> I don't know, I haven't heard the TIGTHOI? cd...
Duh. Sorry. :( Anyway I actually made the effort to get up and put the
song on and answered my own question. Here is my take on the lyrics for
anyone interested. I'm not entirely comfortable with it but it's as
clear as I can make out...
e
---
she looks just like an angel
when she walks across the room
she shines tonight
the colder light is everything I need
love is all around her
she glisten like a jewel
my friend said she's all he needs to feel alive
love songs on the radio
your sweetheart lies in bed
she's dreaming of the things you said
she's hoping that it's meant
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:49:37 -0700
>Swallow
>"Blowback" remixes $14.00
I'll bid $16 for this one.
Thanks,
Jake
Jake Reichert | Your talk is so terribly tired/
[email protected] | Yeah, it's verbal chloroform
| -Liquorice
--------------------------------------------------------------------
"LONELY IS AS LONELY DOES"
B.C. Gilbert/G. Lewis ------------------------ The Happy Family
A=====================================V Bauhaus | Frazier Chorus
| /| | /\ | |----\ | Michael Brook | Spirea X
| / | | / \ | | \ | The Breeders | Colourbox
| / | | / \ | | | | Dead Can Dance | Dif Juz
| /___| | /______\ | | | | Throwing Muses | Pixies
| | | / \ | | / | Clan of Xymox | The The
| | | / \ | |___ / | Cocteau Twins | Swallow
A=====================================M Lisa Germano | M|A|R|R|S
Ultra Vivid Scene | Liquorice | The Birthday Party | Unrest
Modern English | Budd/Fraser/Guthrie/Raymonde | This Mortal Coil
The Wolfgang Press | Richenel | HIs Name Is Alive | Pale Saints
The Glee Club --------------------------------- Colin Newman
"LONELY IS AN EYESORE"
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 05:07:29 +0200
>From the Dead Can Dance WWW.site (http://www.nets.com/dcd):
Lisa Gerrard Tour Dates:
Sunday 9/17/95 : Ghent, Voorult
Monday 9/18/95: Ghent, Voorult
Wednesday 9/20/95: Bremen, Glocke
Thursday 9/21/95: Berlin, Passionkirche
Saturday 9/23/95: Dusseldorf, R. Schumann Hall
Monday 9/25/95: Amsterdam, Carre
Wednesday 9/27/95: Paris, Salle Gaveau
Thursday 9/28/95: Rouen,Theatre de la Ville
Sunday 10/1/95 : London, Union Chapel
Thursday 10/5/95: Boston, Berkeley
Friday 10/6/95: Philadelphia, TLA
Sunday 10/8/95: Washington, Gaston
Monday 10/9/95: New York, Town Hall
Wednesday 10/11/95: Detroit, Institute of Art
Friday 10/13/95: Montreal
Saturday 10/14/95 : Toronto, Music Hall
Monday 10/16/95: Minneapolis, Guthrie
Tuesday 10/17/95: Chicago, Athenium
Thursday 10/19/95: Denver, Cen Pres Church
Sunday 10/22/95: Seattle
Tuesday 10/24/95: San Francisco, Palace of Fine Arts
Wednesday 10/25/95: Los Angeles, Wiltem
And...
In my learning-process of understanding HTML-language for designing en
creating WWW.pages (for myself and others), I've made this little 4AD-site
containing information from my own database. It's still under construction
and incomplete.
There's no NEW information on this page, just a catalogue, a list of
forthcoming releases
and a couple of 4AD-links.
I'm not sure yet if this page has a long life...
Anyway, for as long as it's out there, the URL for this page is:
Use Netscape for surfing.
Emiel Efdee