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Subject: Re: SNUB TV video
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 01:17:01 -0400
From: "Johnathan A. Rickman" (jknee@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU)
Subject: Finally Saw "Toward The Within"
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 04:39:42 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: One More Time For Muses...
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 04:45:51 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: email addr. 4 carl's new album
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 01:12:29 EDT
From: the vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: deluxe album editions?
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:45:23 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Re: One More Time For Muses...
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:42:58 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Re: For Sale: The Saddest CD Sale Of All Time
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 07:36:06 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: One More Time For Muses...
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:39:54 -0700
From: "[ViVid zine...music" (jvivid@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Saddest CD Sale Of All Time (Current Bids)
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:52:29 -0700
From: adam (whirl@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: For Sale: The Saddest CD Sale Of All Time
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:33:54 -0700
From: adam (whirl@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: For Sale: The Saddest CD Sale Of All Time
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:51:25 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Mojave tune--Body Shop sampler?
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:11:45 -0400
From: Ryan Ferguson (ferguson@NETACCESS.ON.CA)
Subject: Innocence Misson in Seattle
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:16:10 -0500
From: Katherine D Sauer (ks3540@COEWL.CEN.UIUC.EDU)
Subject: AVAM video auction update
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:24:57 -0700
From: robert fossum (killjoke@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Auction, sale and ARGGHHH!
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:24:52 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (lingebri@SUNSCIPW.CERN.CH)
Subject: Those damned sales
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 16:31:01 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@INOW.COM)
Subject: Re: One More Time For Muses...
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:48:32 -0400
From: Ann Lin Phillips Academy 97 (alin@k12.oit.umass.edu)
Subject: Re: One More Time For Muses...
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 20:35:34 -0400
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: AVAM video auction update
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 20:49:27 -0400
From: Sean Hennessey (seahorse@ROSCOE.LAW.HARVARD.EDU)
Subject: Re: Auction, sale and ARGGHHH!
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:37:35 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: deluxe album editions?
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:52:01 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Finally Saw "Toward The Within"
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:07:58 -0400
From: EyeRate@AOL.COM
Subject: Birthday Party Live
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:08:02 -0400
From: EyeRate@AOL.COM
Subject: Lemonjade
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:54:04 -0600
From: ELC (ecable@ACS.UCALGARY.CA)
Subject: Anyone Heard New Air Miami?
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:00:00 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Birthday Party Live
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:10:48 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Birthday Party Live
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:06:29 -0400
From: Initialboy@AOL.COM

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 01:17:01 -0400
From: "Johnathan A. Rickman" (jknee@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: SNUB TV video


Actually, yeah I think there was.
 I rented Vol.2 (or 3 for all I know - not sure) from a local Tower a
year or two ago, and it had Ride ("Drive Blind" -live), The Breeders
("Iris"), Loop and others. It was definately SNUB TV, so yeah there's
at least one other out there!

+++++++
John A.                  jknee@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
Rickman                                  =20
+++++++               =20

On Sat, 12 Aug 1995, Emiel =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?Efd=3DE9e?=3D wrote:

> Yesterday I bought me a copy of the 'SNUB TV Vol.1' video (for about $5).
> It has twelve 'clips' on it, three of those are 4AD groups:
> >=20
> Question: has there ever been a Vol. 2 of this video?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ||| | |||| | || ||||| | ||||| | || | |||| || || |||||| ||
> > Emiel Efd=E9e <> Rotterdam <> the Netherlands <> efdee@luna.nl <
>=20


Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 04:39:42 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Finally Saw "Toward The Within"


Again, old news, but new to me...

Finally had a chance to see "Toward the Within" during its theatrical run
here at Washington, DC's Biograph Theater (skin palace by day; arthouse by
night...in the grand tradition!...).

I was really struck by Mark Magidson's visuals during the opening montage,
which put the band's music into a number of contexts, the elemental
connection with nature, the allegiance to tribal and ritual musics, and the
link between DCD and third-world cultures the film's western audiences most
likely know little of.  It was beautiful and affecting.

The weakenesses of TWW, really, had nothing to do with DCD's performance,
which was terrific and captured with a minimum of interference or trickery.
 I would have liked to see Mark work in a little history, to show how Perry
and Gerrard's music developed into what it is now.  Also, a little more focus
on the instruments and musicians would have been interesting.  Does the band
do musicological research to find authentic instruments?  How does it locate
the esoteric instruments the musicians play onstage?  From what backgrounds
do you draw musicians who can play DCD's esoteric music?  Aside from being
named at the tail end of the movie, the backing folks get little
consideration here.

The other occasional failing is the inability of Brendan and Lisa to put what
they do into actual words.  What DCD does is mystical, emotional and very
intuitive and expressing the inexpressible would be difficult for anyone.
 There are moments in TTW when Lisa really struggles with abstract terms; you
want to tell her to just sing and let the music do the explaining.

All in all, though, a great document of the band and why they take people, as
Lisa put it, "places more beautiful than we were ever promised."

Other opinions, if it's not too stale a topic?

Dave G.


Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 04:45:51 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: One More Time For Muses...


Another Throwing Muses date has just been announced for Washington, DC (9/12
at the 9:30 Club).

Their last time through, unfortunately, the show was marred by a really
atrocious mix that gobbled up Kristin's vocals and left much of the set a
muddy hash of sound.  From reviews I've read of other shows (the Somerville
Theater "homecoming" in Somerville, MA, for example), this problem dogged
them at other stops, as well.  I know the band had to be playing well,
because I've heard a tape of a live set they broadcast from Ft. Apache
studios in Cambridge over WFNX, and they sounded tight, crisp and electric.

Did anyone else who saw the Muses this last go round experience a
questionable live sound mix?

I'm looking for them to have better luck this time.  Air Miami, another in a
succession of excellent acts who have opened for the band (Flaming Lips, Ass
Ponys, etc.) provides the support.

Dave G.


Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 06:12:39 -0700
From: the vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: nephilim news if anyone still cares


Yay... :)

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---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 01:12:29 EDT
Subject: email addr. 4 carl's new album


Carl McCoy has finished his first album since the demise of the Fields of
the Nephilim . A single should be released in Oct/Nov with the Lp coming
out in the new year- Carl is designing the artwork himself and there will
undoubtedly be a deluxe packaged ltd edition version...
The sound is closerto death metal/ministry/industrial at times but te
vocals are unmistakably Nephilim-esque
E mail info on: nefilim@beggbanq.demon.co.uk

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:45:23 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: deluxe album editions?


does anyone have a list of deluxe editions of 4AD albums released?

thanks, lisaroo.

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:42:58 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Re: One More Time For Muses...


> Their last time through, unfortunately, the show was marred by a really
> atrocious mix that gobbled up Kristin's vocals and left much of the set a


Yes, when they played here in Houston, Kristen's vocals were very muted.
I figured they just had them very mixed down for some reason or another. The
rest of the band was very tight and all in all it was quite amazing, but I
definitely missed hearing Kristen's powerful voice....

lisaroo

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 07:36:06 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: For Sale: The Saddest CD Sale Of All Time


You wrote:
>
>>Y
>>>-Chapterhouse-
>>>"Pearl" EP $15
>>>"Freefall" EP $15
>>>"Sunburst" EP $20
>>>"Mesmerise" EP $15
>>>"Blood Music" LP w/o insert (no bids yet)
>>>"Global Communication" remixes $27
>>>"She's A Vision" EP (no bids yet)
>>>"We Are The Beautiful" EP (no bids yet)
>


 The availabilty of the "she's a vision" and "we are the
>beautiful" eps is unknown to me, but I haven't seen them here in
Phoenix
>for a long time (one and a half years). They are both great ep's that
made
>the subsequent Blood Music LP weak in comparison.
>I put the current bids next to the above list to give you an idea of
their
>street value.

thanks for the help... how much are you thinking you might like for
both "we are the beautiful" and "She's a vision"? Also the "we are the
beautiful ep" isn't just the ep version of Disc 2 of Blood Music? i had
no idea even *that* was out of print!

                                    -robert.

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:39:54 -0700
From: "[ViVid zine...music" (jvivid@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: One More Time For Muses...


I have to say that the three times I have seen Throwing Muses this year
in San Francisco have all been magical, and fortunately the sound has
been more than adequate (at the Great American Music hall, although the
free show at Tower Records was rather patchy at times, but forgiveable,
given the venue!)...I am sorry that the show you caught wasn't as good...

looking forward to the new album out in the fall...Juliette

------------------------------------------------jvivid@netcom.com

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On Sun, 13 Aug 1995 DscribeDC@AOL.COM wrote:

> Another Throwing Muses date has just been announced for Washington, DC (9/12
> at the 9:30 Club).
>
> Their last time through, unfortunately, the show was marred by a really
> atrocious mix that gobbled up Kristin's vocals and left much of the set a
> muddy hash of sound.  From reviews I've read of other shows (the Somerville
> Theater "homecoming" in Somerville, MA, for example), this problem dogged
> them at other stops, as well.  I know the band had to be playing well,
> because I've heard a tape of a live set they broadcast from Ft. Apache
> studios in Cambridge over WFNX, and they sounded tight, crisp and electric.
>
> Did anyone else who saw the Muses this last go round experience a
> questionable live sound mix?
>
> I'm looking for them to have better luck this time.  Air Miami, another in a
> succession of excellent acts who have opened for the band (Flaming Lips, Ass
> Ponys, etc.) provides the support.
>
> Dave G.
>


Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:52:29 -0700
From: adam (whirl@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Saddest CD Sale Of All Time (Current Bids)


                                           "The Saddest Sale Of All Time"
Well, here's the current high bids for the Sad Sale, every thing without a
price by it has
not been bid on yet. The Sale will end on Friday The 18th At Midnight
(P.S.T.) I'll make
another post to the list on Wednesday evening with high bids, then from
there I'll post
you all individually with bid updates as to not annoy everyone else on the
list anymore.
I'm a little vague on the postage details, but I'm assuming the buyer takes
care of that?
Any suggestions or etiquette on this matter would be greatly appreciated!

*Please Email me privately with your bids or questions (whirl@primenet.com)
Adam*

Adorable
"Sunshine Smile" Import EP
"Sunshine Smile" Domestic EP
"Sistine Chapel Ceiling" EP
"I'll Be Your Saint" EP........................................$8.00
"Homeboy" EP
"Vendetta" EP.....................................................$7.00
"Kangaroo Court" EP

Boo Radleys
"Kaleidescope" EP..............................................$20.00
"Every Heaven" EP.............................................$20.00
"Boo UP" EP.......................................................$15.00
"Boo! Forever" EP
"Lazy Day" EP
"Wish I Was Skinny" EP
"Lazarus" EP
"The Lazarus EP" Remixes
"Barney & Me" EP
"I Hang Suspended" EP

Blueboy
"River" EP............................................................$10.00

Breathless
"Heartburst" Compilation....................................$7.00

Catherine Wheel
"Balloon" EP w/ live tracks...................................$20.00
"Crome" LP in limited edition chrome cover

Chapterhouse
"Pearl" EP..............................................................$16.00
"Freefall" EP..........................................................$15.00
"Sunburst" EP........................................................$20.00
"Mesmerise" EP....................................................$15.00
"Blood Music" LP w/o insert
"Global Communication" remixes.........................$27.00
"She's A Vision" EP
"We Are The Beautiful" EP

Curve
"Blindfold" EP
"Cherry" EP............................................................$10.00
"Frozen" EP

East River Pipe
"She's A Real Good Time" EP (Sarah)....................$10.00
"Goodbye California" EP (Sarah)............................$12.00
"Shining Hours In A Can" LP (Ajax)........................$10.00

Ectasy Of Saint Teresa
"...Fluidtrance Centauri"  (Free)

LIlys
"Tone Bender" EP (Summershine)
"In The Presence Of Nothing" LP (Spinart)
"A Brief History Of History...." (Spinart)................$5.00

Moose
"Liquid Makeup" (Cool Badge).................................$7.00
"Sonny And Sam" Compilation.................................$10.00
"Bang Bang" (Play It Again Sam)................................$7.00

My Bloody Valentine
"Tremelo" EP............................................................$8.00
"Isn't Anything" LP
"Loveless" LP

Northern Picture LIbrary
"Blue Dissolve" EP....................................................$7.00
"Love Song For The Dead Che" EP...........................$10.00
"Last September's Farewell Kiss" EP.......................$10.00

Pale Saints
"Blue Flower" 1 song Promo.....................................$5.00
"Flesh Baloon" EP......................................................$5.00
"Mrs Dolphin" Japanese Import................................$30.00
"Fine Friend" EP

Seefeel
"More Like Space" EP
"Quique" LP...............................................................$12.00
"Polyfusia" LP
"Starethrough" EP

Secret Shine
"Loveblind" EP (Sarah)................................................$6.00
"Untouched" LP (Sarah)..............................................$12.00

Starflyer 59
"She's The Queen" EP.................................................$10.00
"Starflyer 59"
LP..........................................................$15.00

Slowdive
"Holding Our Breath" EP.............................................$45.00
"Blue Day" French Import............................................$30.00
"Outside Your Room" EP.............................................$20.00
"5EP"
EP.......................................................................$20
.00
"5EP" (in mind remixes) EP.........................................$20.00
"Soulvaki" Domestic LP w/ 2 bonus tracks

Swallow
"Blow"
LP.......................................................................$10
.00
"Blowback" remixes......................................................$10.00
"Hush" EP (Rough Trade)..............................................$12.00

Sugargliders
"Top Forty Sculpture" EP (Sarah)..................................$6.00
"Trumpetplay" EP (Sarah)..............................................$6.00
"Will We Ever Learn" EP (Sarah)...................................$6.00

Ultra Vivid Scene
"Special One" EP
"Staring At The Sun" EP
"Joy 1967-1990" LP

Wedding Present
"George Best" LP
"Peel Sessions 1987-90"

Compilations
"Why Popstars Can't Dance" Slumberland Compilation
"Sunny Sundae Smile" Sunday Compilation........................$7.00
"Tomorrow's Hits Today" Summershine Compilation......$7.00

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:33:54 -0700
From: adam (whirl@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: For Sale: The Saddest CD Sale Of All Time


Robert,

>how much are you thinking you might like for
>both "we are the beautiful" "she's a vision"?

I'd like to start them off at $6.00 a peice

>the "we are the beautiful ep" isn't just the
> ep version of Disc 2 of Blood Music? i had
>no idea even *that* was out of print!

No, the two discs are completely different, The "we are the beautiful" ep is
more straight guitar driven Chapterhouse stuff, with the exception of a Spooky
remix of the "we are the beautiful" track.

Here's a listing of the tracks

1 we are the beautiful
2 we are the beautiful (spooky extravaganga dub mix)
3 frost
4 age

bye, adam


Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:51:25 -0700
From: Robert Pietrusko (cantique@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: For Sale: The Saddest CD Sale Of All Time


You wrote:
>
>Robert,
>
>>how much are you thinking you might like for
>>both "we are the beautiful" "she's a vision"?
>
>I'd like to start them off at $6.00 a peice
>
>>the "we are the beautiful ep" isn't just the
>> ep version of Disc 2 of Blood Music? i had
>>no idea even *that* was out of print!
>
>No, the two discs are completely different, The "we are the beautiful"
ep is
>more straight guitar driven Chapterhouse stuff, with the exception of
a Spooky
>remix of the "we are the beautiful" track.
>
>Here's a listing of the tracks
>
>1 we are the beautiful
>2 we are the beautiful (spooky extravaganga dub mix)
>3 frost
>4 age
>

ok, i'll bid $6 for each of those! thanks.


                                -robert.

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:11:45 -0400
From: Ryan Ferguson (ferguson@NETACCESS.ON.CA)
Subject: Re: Mojave tune--Body Shop sampler?


I was talking about this cd to a friend of mine who works for Polygram
records (distributor of 4AD in Canada) and he told me that the mystery
track is not Mojave but is in fact another song from Tarnation.  Also he
said that there is a good chance Slowdive will remain Slowdive and not
change the name to Mojave (something about a fanbase).  Has anyone
actually found this disc for sale or giveaway at any Body Shop?  I don't
think that the stores actually have them but rather have donated some
money as well as their name to this promo (see how many of us went into
the Body Shop because of this disc, sounds like a good form of
advertising to me).


Cheers,
Ryan

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:16:10 -0500
From: Katherine D Sauer (ks3540@COEWL.CEN.UIUC.EDU)
Subject: Innocence Misson in Seattle


Hey 4ad folks,

I saw the Innocence Mission at the Backstage in Seattle
last night--an absolutely phenomenal show!!  Karen's
voice was crystal clear, angelic and mesmerizing.  I
very highly recommend that you NOT miss the opportunity
to see them on their current tour.

There are few bands that I've seen that move me the
way this show did....Lynn Canfield and the boys in
Moon 7 Times are the only other ones I can think of
right now.  :)

And, I'll throw in my endorsement of "Glow"-- run
out and pick it up if you haven't already!

Trina

--
Katherine (Trina) Sauer, Goddess of Funkosity
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

"So it was that the Elves came to name themselves the
Quendi, which means the "speakers," after their greatest
art, and they then named their language Quenya, which
means simply the 'speech.'  All the tongues of the World
came from this one source which is the root of them and
which is most fair to the ears of all who love beauty in
its various forms."


Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:24:57 -0700
From: robert fossum (killjoke@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: AVAM video auction update


Current bid is 45 dollars for the AVAM video (ltd to 1000 copies)...
will be taking bids thru the 22nd of August..

Sorry to clutter your mailbox..

Rob
--


Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:24:52 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (lingebri@SUNSCIPW.CERN.CH)
Subject: Auction, sale and ARGGHHH!


Am I the only one that is getting rilly, rilly, *rilly* fed up with
all these auction/sale messages? I mean, we do have
rec.music.marketplace, which is the place to go if you want to sell
old records.

Grumpily yours, Lars.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars in Geneva


Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 16:31:01 -0700
From: Jens Alfke (jens@INOW.COM)
Subject: Those damned sales


I too am getting mighty annoyed at the endless babble regarding people
selling their CDs. It seems to fall into two categories:

(1) People not realizing they are sending their reply to the list, not just
to the sender. THIS IS INCREDIBLY LAME AND INEXCUSABLE. If you don't know
how to work your mail program, don't use it. Period.

(2) Sellers sending out constant updates on bid prices. Note well: people
who haven't sent you bids already are almost certainly not interested in
the bidding. Why send the updates to the list? Keep a list of all the
people who've bid and send the updates to them.

I really don't mind people using the list to sell stuff. As long as I see
one and only one posting per sale!

__________
Jens Alfke|__________________     "In this story we sit down on Luna Bridge
           jens@mooseyard.com|     And catch snow in our cupped hands
 __________________________        And music is coming from the houses
 http://www.inow.com/~jens/        Or it sings inside me. I begin to mend."
                                                             --Karen Peris


Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:48:32 -0400
From: Ann Lin Phillips Academy 97 (alin@k12.oit.umass.edu)
Subject: Re: One More Time For Muses...


did you get the muses tape i send to you?

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 20:35:34 -0400
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: One More Time For Muses...


>did you get the muses tape i send to you?

No, but feel free! ;)

I have alot of tapes of Muses--I am in search of the perfect recording from
the current tour.  Best one so far is music farm , south carolina.



-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
John B. Jones                           e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu


"Look at the massacre on cable/ But you know it won't happen here,
 We're all too busy watching massacres on cable/ Oh yeah." -Robyn Hitchcock
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 20:49:27 -0400
From: Sean Hennessey (seahorse@ROSCOE.LAW.HARVARD.EDU)
Subject: Re: AVAM video auction update


> Current bid is 45 dollars for the AVAM video (ltd to 1000 copies)...
> will be taking bids thru the 22nd of August..
>
> Sorry to clutter your mailbox..
>
Hi,

Is this the video that was sold at the 4ad Festival at the ICA in
London?  If so, I have one available as well, though I'm not interested
in cash as much as trades...

Tara,
Sean

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:37:35 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Auction, sale and ARGGHHH!


No, Lars, you are not the only one who is getting peeved.  Isn't it ironic
that we spare no effort to flame "spammers" who put crass commercial B.S. and
Ponzi schemes on the Net, just so that we can have more bandwidth to sell our
$50 promo CDs, videos and T-shirts?

I liked the list a whole lot better when people were discussing music and not
the "latest bids."

We should consider cooling it a little bit.

Dave G.


Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:52:01 -0700
From: "Scott, Mari & Brian" (sten@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: deluxe album editions?


You wrote:
>
>does anyone have a list of deluxe editions of 4AD albums released?
>
>I don't wanna sound like a complete moron but what is a deluxe album?

                        Your happy fun pal
                               Brian
>

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:07:58 -0400
From: EyeRate@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Finally Saw "Toward The Within"


>>I was really struck by Mark Magidson's visuals during the >>opening
montage,
>>which put the band's music into a number of contexts, the >>elemental
>>connection with nature, the allegiance to tribal and ritual >>musics, and
the
>>link between DCD and third-world cultures the film's >>western audiences
most
>>likely know little of.  It was beautiful and affecting.

I believe the opening segment is from Beramundi (sp?) a sort of Kayanaskawtsi
(sp?), which was scored by Philip Glass, for the primal world instead of the
modern

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:08:02 -0400
From: EyeRate@AOL.COM
Subject: Birthday Party Live


I found a live c.d. from this elder 4AD band yesterday. It's titled "It's
still living" and is an Australian import recorded live in 1984 at the Astor
Theatre in Melborne Australia.

I guess this is before Nick Cave decided to pack it up and head for Berlin,
or England, or whereever he is now.

Had a chance to meet Cave on the last Lolapalooza. Interesting guy.

Anyone else think the  Birthday Party was the best punk band ever ?

Baron

"She's hit, and she won't get up." BP


Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:54:04 -0600
From: ELC (ecable@ACS.UCALGARY.CA)
Subject: Lemonjade


Hey Kids!

Derek, la drummer de Lemonjade, asked me if anyone has commented that
they received the ep _Birth_ which he says he mailed out a few weeks back
(to all of those who are in Campus / Community radio and let me know) and
I had to answer him that alack and alas no one has.  so ,folks, did you
receive the disc - yes or no and if you did any thoughts?

Thanks and cheers!

Elaun


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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:00:00 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Anyone Heard New Air Miami?


Has anyone heard an advance copy of the new Air Miami CD "Me Me Me" (rel.
9/12)?  If so, could you distribute a review?

Dave G.

Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:10:48 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Birthday Party Live


I don't know if I would call the Birthday Party the best punk band ever, but
they certainly were one of the best and most consistently interesting.  Their
moves have been copped by some many today that they are sure to ascend to
Velvets "essential influence" class very shortly.  There  would be no Jesus
Lizard if the Birthday Party hadn't existed, a fact that the current crop of
short-sighted journos always seems to forget.

Unfortunately, I'm not the best witness to their live splendor.  I saw them
play a gig at the Channel in Boston in the spring of 1982 with Thalia Zedek
of Come's old band the Dangerous Birds.  There had been some kind of snafu
and they had no equipment of their own; instead, they had to play the whole
gig with borrowed equipment from the Birds.  Rowland Howard kept breaking
strings on every song and the whole thing was one giant bad vibe.  Cave was
still scary and brilliant, leaping and twisting in the air, coming down right
in the faces of petrified new wavers and college radio types.  I had heard
from reliable friends that the show they played in Boston at the Spit club
the summer before, with circumstances in their favor, was incredibly
brilliant, and anyone who's ever heard "Drunk on the Pope's Blood" can
believe it.  They were brooding, sinister and poetic in a way much more sexy
and toxic than Cave has been since he's decided to become the Leonard Cohen
of the Ectomorphs.

Sprint, don't run, out and buy "Junkyard" and "Prayers on Fire" immediately.
 And everything else by them you can find.  Sorted.

Dave G.

Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:06:29 -0400
From: Initialboy@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Birthday Party Live


>Anyone else think the  Birthday Party was the best punk band ever ?

Ohyesohyesohyesyesohyesyesyesyes....

Um, sorry about that outburst; it appears that hardly anyone on this list
seems to demonstrate any appreciation for this truly great band, and whenever
someone other than myself mentions Mick, Rowland, Nick, Tracy (r.i.p.), et.
al., I can't help but get just a little excited.

Most certainly the Birthday Party were only a ****hair away from total
divinity.  As much as Nick Cave may have been inspired by and copped a few
tricks from the Stooges, Saints, etc., I believe that if he weren't around to
have done his thing, I doubt that David "meet my friend Willy" Yow wouldn't
have had as much fun in Scratch Acid and the Jesus Lizard.  And on top of
that, the likelihood of Silverfish* ever existing would have been greatly
diminished if the Birthday Party weren't around (whether that's an entirely a
good or a bad thing is totally debatable, although I can almost see this
sub-subject degenerating into one of those Terminator-esque discussions on
what might have happened if one had sent a cyborg hitman back in time to
snuff Mrs. Cave...).

That, and if it weren't for (jolly) Saint Nick, half the critics wouldn't
have an analogy to stand on with respect to Tindersticks (although I still
wonder if that'd send them scurrying for their Lee Hazelwood albums).

>Had a chance to meet Cave on the last Lolapalooza. Interesting guy.

I'm sure he is.  I envy you.  Ever read any of his writings?  The man is a
half-stumble away from being an outright looney.  Actually, has anyone
suggested that he get back on horse again?  I've found that his music to be
much more appreciable back before he cleaned up... just kidding... actually,
half-kidding.

But I blather, and I doubt anyone else cares anyway,


hk

* Although now that I think about it, the legacy of AC/DC had something to do
with Silverfish as well, but that's about as unthislisty as Bon Scott choking
on vomit.
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