Subject: Re: SNUB TV video
Subject: Finally Saw "Toward The Within"
Subject: One More Time For Muses...
Subject: email addr. 4 carl's new album
Subject: deluxe album editions?
Subject: Re: One More Time For Muses...
Subject: Re: For Sale: The Saddest CD Sale Of All Time
Subject: Re: One More Time For Muses...
Subject: Saddest CD Sale Of All Time (Current Bids)
Subject: Re: For Sale: The Saddest CD Sale Of All Time
Subject: Re: For Sale: The Saddest CD Sale Of All Time
Subject: Re: Mojave tune--Body Shop sampler?
Subject: Innocence Misson in Seattle
Subject: AVAM video auction update
Subject: Auction, sale and ARGGHHH!
Subject: Those damned sales
Subject: Re: One More Time For Muses...
Subject: Re: One More Time For Muses...
Subject: Re: AVAM video auction update
Subject: Re: Auction, sale and ARGGHHH!
Subject: Re: deluxe album editions?
Subject: Re: Finally Saw "Toward The Within"
Subject: Birthday Party Live
Subject: Lemonjade
Subject: Anyone Heard New Air Miami?
Subject: Re: Birthday Party Live
Subject: Re: Birthday Party Live
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 01:17:01 -0400
Actually, yeah I think there was.
I rented Vol.2 (or 3 for all I know - not sure) from a local Tower a
year or two ago, and it had Ride ("Drive Blind" -live), The Breeders
("Iris"), Loop and others. It was definately SNUB TV, so yeah there's
at least one other out there!
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John A. [email protected]
Rickman =20
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On Sat, 12 Aug 1995, Emiel =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?Efd=3DE9e?=3D wrote:
> Yesterday I bought me a copy of the 'SNUB TV Vol.1' video (for about $5).
> It has twelve 'clips' on it, three of those are 4AD groups:
> >=20
> Question: has there ever been a Vol. 2 of this video?
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 04:39:42 -0400
Again, old news, but new to me...
Finally had a chance to see "Toward the Within" during its theatrical run
here at Washington, DC's Biograph Theater (skin palace by day; arthouse by
night...in the grand tradition!...).
I was really struck by Mark Magidson's visuals during the opening montage,
which put the band's music into a number of contexts, the elemental
connection with nature, the allegiance to tribal and ritual musics, and the
link between DCD and third-world cultures the film's western audiences most
likely know little of. It was beautiful and affecting.
The weakenesses of TWW, really, had nothing to do with DCD's performance,
which was terrific and captured with a minimum of interference or trickery.
I would have liked to see Mark work in a little history, to show how Perry
and Gerrard's music developed into what it is now. Also, a little more focus
on the instruments and musicians would have been interesting. Does the band
do musicological research to find authentic instruments? How does it locate
the esoteric instruments the musicians play onstage? From what backgrounds
do you draw musicians who can play DCD's esoteric music? Aside from being
named at the tail end of the movie, the backing folks get little
consideration here.
The other occasional failing is the inability of Brendan and Lisa to put what
they do into actual words. What DCD does is mystical, emotional and very
intuitive and expressing the inexpressible would be difficult for anyone.
There are moments in TTW when Lisa really struggles with abstract terms; you
want to tell her to just sing and let the music do the explaining.
All in all, though, a great document of the band and why they take people, as
Lisa put it, "places more beautiful than we were ever promised."
Other opinions, if it's not too stale a topic?
Dave G.
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 04:45:51 -0400
Another Throwing Muses date has just been announced for Washington, DC (9/12
at the 9:30 Club).
Their last time through, unfortunately, the show was marred by a really
atrocious mix that gobbled up Kristin's vocals and left much of the set a
muddy hash of sound. From reviews I've read of other shows (the Somerville
Theater "homecoming" in Somerville, MA, for example), this problem dogged
them at other stops, as well. I know the band had to be playing well,
because I've heard a tape of a live set they broadcast from Ft. Apache
studios in Cambridge over WFNX, and they sounded tight, crisp and electric.
Did anyone else who saw the Muses this last go round experience a
questionable live sound mix?
I'm looking for them to have better luck this time. Air Miami, another in a
succession of excellent acts who have opened for the band (Flaming Lips, Ass
Ponys, etc.) provides the support.
Dave G.
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 06:12:39 -0700
Yay... :)
e
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 01:12:29 EDT
Carl McCoy has finished his first album since the demise of the Fields of
the Nephilim . A single should be released in Oct/Nov with the Lp coming
out in the new year- Carl is designing the artwork himself and there will
undoubtedly be a deluxe packaged ltd edition version...
The sound is closerto death metal/ministry/industrial at times but te
vocals are unmistakably Nephilim-esque
E mail info on: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:45:23 -0500
does anyone have a list of deluxe editions of 4AD albums released?
thanks, lisaroo.
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:42:58 -0500
> Their last time through, unfortunately, the show was marred by a really
> atrocious mix that gobbled up Kristin's vocals and left much of the set a
Yes, when they played here in Houston, Kristen's vocals were very muted.
I figured they just had them very mixed down for some reason or another. The
rest of the band was very tight and all in all it was quite amazing, but I
definitely missed hearing Kristen's powerful voice....
lisaroo
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 07:36:06 -0700
You wrote:
>
>>Y
>>>-Chapterhouse-
>>>"Pearl" EP $15
>>>"Freefall" EP $15
>>>"Sunburst" EP $20
>>>"Mesmerise" EP $15
>>>"Blood Music" LP w/o insert (no bids yet)
>>>"Global Communication" remixes $27
>>>"She's A Vision" EP (no bids yet)
>>>"We Are The Beautiful" EP (no bids yet)
>
The availabilty of the "she's a vision" and "we are the
>beautiful" eps is unknown to me, but I haven't seen them here in
Phoenix
>for a long time (one and a half years). They are both great ep's that
made
>the subsequent Blood Music LP weak in comparison.
>I put the current bids next to the above list to give you an idea of
their
>street value.
thanks for the help... how much are you thinking you might like for
both "we are the beautiful" and "She's a vision"? Also the "we are the
beautiful ep" isn't just the ep version of Disc 2 of Blood Music? i had
no idea even *that* was out of print!
-robert.
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:39:54 -0700
I have to say that the three times I have seen Throwing Muses this year
in San Francisco have all been magical, and fortunately the sound has
been more than adequate (at the Great American Music hall, although the
free show at Tower Records was rather patchy at times, but forgiveable,
given the venue!)...I am sorry that the show you caught wasn't as good...
looking forward to the new album out in the fall...Juliette
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On Sun, 13 Aug 1995 [email protected] wrote:
> Another Throwing Muses date has just been announced for Washington, DC (9/12
> at the 9:30 Club).
>
> Their last time through, unfortunately, the show was marred by a really
> atrocious mix that gobbled up Kristin's vocals and left much of the set a
> muddy hash of sound. From reviews I've read of other shows (the Somerville
> Theater "homecoming" in Somerville, MA, for example), this problem dogged
> them at other stops, as well. I know the band had to be playing well,
> because I've heard a tape of a live set they broadcast from Ft. Apache
> studios in Cambridge over WFNX, and they sounded tight, crisp and electric.
>
> Did anyone else who saw the Muses this last go round experience a
> questionable live sound mix?
>
> I'm looking for them to have better luck this time. Air Miami, another in a
> succession of excellent acts who have opened for the band (Flaming Lips, Ass
> Ponys, etc.) provides the support.
>
> Dave G.
>
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:52:29 -0700
"The Saddest Sale Of All Time"
Well, here's the current high bids for the Sad Sale, every thing without a
price by it has
not been bid on yet. The Sale will end on Friday The 18th At Midnight
(P.S.T.) I'll make
another post to the list on Wednesday evening with high bids, then from
there I'll post
you all individually with bid updates as to not annoy everyone else on the
list anymore.
I'm a little vague on the postage details, but I'm assuming the buyer takes
care of that?
Any suggestions or etiquette on this matter would be greatly appreciated!
*Please Email me privately with your bids or questions ([email protected])
Adam*
Adorable
"Sunshine Smile" Import EP
"Sunshine Smile" Domestic EP
"Sistine Chapel Ceiling" EP
"I'll Be Your Saint" EP........................................$8.00
"Homeboy" EP
"Vendetta" EP.....................................................$7.00
"Kangaroo Court" EP
Boo Radleys
"Kaleidescope" EP..............................................$20.00
"Every Heaven" EP.............................................$20.00
"Boo UP" EP.......................................................$15.00
"Boo! Forever" EP
"Lazy Day" EP
"Wish I Was Skinny" EP
"Lazarus" EP
"The Lazarus EP" Remixes
"Barney & Me" EP
"I Hang Suspended" EP
Blueboy
"River" EP............................................................$10.00
Breathless
"Heartburst" Compilation....................................$7.00
Catherine Wheel
"Balloon" EP w/ live tracks...................................$20.00
"Crome" LP in limited edition chrome cover
Chapterhouse
"Pearl" EP..............................................................$16.00
"Freefall" EP..........................................................$15.00
"Sunburst" EP........................................................$20.00
"Mesmerise" EP....................................................$15.00
"Blood Music" LP w/o insert
"Global Communication" remixes.........................$27.00
"She's A Vision" EP
"We Are The Beautiful" EP
Curve
"Blindfold" EP
"Cherry" EP............................................................$10.00
"Frozen" EP
East River Pipe
"She's A Real Good Time" EP (Sarah)....................$10.00
"Goodbye California" EP (Sarah)............................$12.00
"Shining Hours In A Can" LP (Ajax)........................$10.00
Ectasy Of Saint Teresa
"...Fluidtrance Centauri" (Free)
LIlys
"Tone Bender" EP (Summershine)
"In The Presence Of Nothing" LP (Spinart)
"A Brief History Of History...." (Spinart)................$5.00
Moose
"Liquid Makeup" (Cool Badge).................................$7.00
"Sonny And Sam" Compilation.................................$10.00
"Bang Bang" (Play It Again Sam)................................$7.00
My Bloody Valentine
"Tremelo" EP............................................................$8.00
"Isn't Anything" LP
"Loveless" LP
Northern Picture LIbrary
"Blue Dissolve" EP....................................................$7.00
"Love Song For The Dead Che" EP...........................$10.00
"Last September's Farewell Kiss" EP.......................$10.00
Pale Saints
"Blue Flower" 1 song Promo.....................................$5.00
"Flesh Baloon" EP......................................................$5.00
"Mrs Dolphin" Japanese Import................................$30.00
"Fine Friend" EP
Seefeel
"More Like Space" EP
"Quique" LP...............................................................$12.00
"Polyfusia" LP
"Starethrough" EP
Secret Shine
"Loveblind" EP (Sarah)................................................$6.00
"Untouched" LP (Sarah)..............................................$12.00
Starflyer 59
"She's The Queen" EP.................................................$10.00
"Starflyer 59"
LP..........................................................$15.00
Slowdive
"Holding Our Breath" EP.............................................$45.00
"Blue Day" French Import............................................$30.00
"Outside Your Room" EP.............................................$20.00
"5EP"
EP.......................................................................$20
.00
"5EP" (in mind remixes) EP.........................................$20.00
"Soulvaki" Domestic LP w/ 2 bonus tracks
Swallow
"Blow"
LP.......................................................................$10
.00
"Blowback" remixes......................................................$10.00
"Hush" EP (Rough Trade)..............................................$12.00
Sugargliders
"Top Forty Sculpture" EP (Sarah)..................................$6.00
"Trumpetplay" EP (Sarah)..............................................$6.00
"Will We Ever Learn" EP (Sarah)...................................$6.00
Ultra Vivid Scene
"Special One" EP
"Staring At The Sun" EP
"Joy 1967-1990" LP
Wedding Present
"George Best" LP
"Peel Sessions 1987-90"
Compilations
"Why Popstars Can't Dance" Slumberland Compilation
"Sunny Sundae Smile" Sunday Compilation........................$7.00
"Tomorrow's Hits Today" Summershine Compilation......$7.00
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:33:54 -0700
Robert,
>how much are you thinking you might like for
>both "we are the beautiful" "she's a vision"?
I'd like to start them off at $6.00 a peice
>the "we are the beautiful ep" isn't just the
> ep version of Disc 2 of Blood Music? i had
>no idea even *that* was out of print!
No, the two discs are completely different, The "we are the beautiful" ep is
more straight guitar driven Chapterhouse stuff, with the exception of a Spooky
remix of the "we are the beautiful" track.
Here's a listing of the tracks
1 we are the beautiful
2 we are the beautiful (spooky extravaganga dub mix)
3 frost
4 age
bye, adam
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:51:25 -0700
You wrote:
>
>Robert,
>
>>how much are you thinking you might like for
>>both "we are the beautiful" "she's a vision"?
>
>I'd like to start them off at $6.00 a peice
>
>>the "we are the beautiful ep" isn't just the
>> ep version of Disc 2 of Blood Music? i had
>>no idea even *that* was out of print!
>
>No, the two discs are completely different, The "we are the beautiful"
ep is
>more straight guitar driven Chapterhouse stuff, with the exception of
a Spooky
>remix of the "we are the beautiful" track.
>
>Here's a listing of the tracks
>
>1 we are the beautiful
>2 we are the beautiful (spooky extravaganga dub mix)
>3 frost
>4 age
>
ok, i'll bid $6 for each of those! thanks.
-robert.
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:11:45 -0400
I was talking about this cd to a friend of mine who works for Polygram
records (distributor of 4AD in Canada) and he told me that the mystery
track is not Mojave but is in fact another song from Tarnation. Also he
said that there is a good chance Slowdive will remain Slowdive and not
change the name to Mojave (something about a fanbase). Has anyone
actually found this disc for sale or giveaway at any Body Shop? I don't
think that the stores actually have them but rather have donated some
money as well as their name to this promo (see how many of us went into
the Body Shop because of this disc, sounds like a good form of
advertising to me).
Cheers,
Ryan
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:16:10 -0500
Hey 4ad folks,
I saw the Innocence Mission at the Backstage in Seattle
last night--an absolutely phenomenal show!! Karen's
voice was crystal clear, angelic and mesmerizing. I
very highly recommend that you NOT miss the opportunity
to see them on their current tour.
There are few bands that I've seen that move me the
way this show did....Lynn Canfield and the boys in
Moon 7 Times are the only other ones I can think of
right now. :)
And, I'll throw in my endorsement of "Glow"-- run
out and pick it up if you haven't already!
Trina
--
Katherine (Trina) Sauer, Goddess of Funkosity
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
"So it was that the Elves came to name themselves the
Quendi, which means the "speakers," after their greatest
art, and they then named their language Quenya, which
means simply the 'speech.' All the tongues of the World
came from this one source which is the root of them and
which is most fair to the ears of all who love beauty in
its various forms."
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:24:57 -0700
Current bid is 45 dollars for the AVAM video (ltd to 1000 copies)...
will be taking bids thru the 22nd of August..
Sorry to clutter your mailbox..
Rob
--
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:24:52 +0200
Am I the only one that is getting rilly, rilly, *rilly* fed up with
all these auction/sale messages? I mean, we do have
rec.music.marketplace, which is the place to go if you want to sell
old records.
Grumpily yours, Lars.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
[email protected] * Lars in Geneva
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 16:31:01 -0700
I too am getting mighty annoyed at the endless babble regarding people
selling their CDs. It seems to fall into two categories:
(1) People not realizing they are sending their reply to the list, not just
to the sender. THIS IS INCREDIBLY LAME AND INEXCUSABLE. If you don't know
how to work your mail program, don't use it. Period.
(2) Sellers sending out constant updates on bid prices. Note well: people
who haven't sent you bids already are almost certainly not interested in
the bidding. Why send the updates to the list? Keep a list of all the
people who've bid and send the updates to them.
I really don't mind people using the list to sell stuff. As long as I see
one and only one posting per sale!
__________
Jens Alfke|__________________ "In this story we sit down on Luna Bridge
[email protected]| And catch snow in our cupped hands
__________________________ And music is coming from the houses
http://www.inow.com/~jens/ Or it sings inside me. I begin to mend."
--Karen Peris
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:48:32 -0400
did you get the muses tape i send to you?
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 20:35:34 -0400
>did you get the muses tape i send to you?
No, but feel free! ;)
I have alot of tapes of Muses--I am in search of the perfect recording from
the current tour. Best one so far is music farm , south carolina.
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"Look at the massacre on cable/ But you know it won't happen here,
We're all too busy watching massacres on cable/ Oh yeah." -Robyn Hitchcock
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 20:49:27 -0400
> Current bid is 45 dollars for the AVAM video (ltd to 1000 copies)...
> will be taking bids thru the 22nd of August..
>
> Sorry to clutter your mailbox..
>
Hi,
Is this the video that was sold at the 4ad Festival at the ICA in
London? If so, I have one available as well, though I'm not interested
in cash as much as trades...
Tara,
Sean
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:37:35 -0400
No, Lars, you are not the only one who is getting peeved. Isn't it ironic
that we spare no effort to flame "spammers" who put crass commercial B.S. and
Ponzi schemes on the Net, just so that we can have more bandwidth to sell our
$50 promo CDs, videos and T-shirts?
I liked the list a whole lot better when people were discussing music and not
the "latest bids."
We should consider cooling it a little bit.
Dave G.
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:52:01 -0700
You wrote:
>
>does anyone have a list of deluxe editions of 4AD albums released?
>
>I don't wanna sound like a complete moron but what is a deluxe album?
Your happy fun pal
Brian
>
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:07:58 -0400
>>I was really struck by Mark Magidson's visuals during the >>opening
montage,
>>which put the band's music into a number of contexts, the >>elemental
>>connection with nature, the allegiance to tribal and ritual >>musics, and
the
>>link between DCD and third-world cultures the film's >>western audiences
most
>>likely know little of. It was beautiful and affecting.
I believe the opening segment is from Beramundi (sp?) a sort of Kayanaskawtsi
(sp?), which was scored by Philip Glass, for the primal world instead of the
modern
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:08:02 -0400
I found a live c.d. from this elder 4AD band yesterday. It's titled "It's
still living" and is an Australian import recorded live in 1984 at the Astor
Theatre in Melborne Australia.
I guess this is before Nick Cave decided to pack it up and head for Berlin,
or England, or whereever he is now.
Had a chance to meet Cave on the last Lolapalooza. Interesting guy.
Anyone else think the Birthday Party was the best punk band ever ?
Baron
"She's hit, and she won't get up." BP
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:54:04 -0600
Hey Kids!
Derek, la drummer de Lemonjade, asked me if anyone has commented that
they received the ep _Birth_ which he says he mailed out a few weeks back
(to all of those who are in Campus / Community radio and let me know) and
I had to answer him that alack and alas no one has. so ,folks, did you
receive the disc - yes or no and if you did any thoughts?
Thanks and cheers!
Elaun
X Elaun L. Cable x Rm. 127 MacEwan Hall x "My life suits X
X Spoken Word Director x University of Calgary x me very well..." X
X CJSW 90.9 fm x Calgary, AB x X
X x T2N 4N1 x X
X [email protected] / [email protected] X
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:00:00 -0400
Has anyone heard an advance copy of the new Air Miami CD "Me Me Me" (rel.
9/12)? If so, could you distribute a review?
Dave G.