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Subject: Body Shop (lllong:)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 00:51:30 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: merchandise avail at avaim that I remember
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 23:19:28 -0700
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: Mouse on Mars, Frank Black etc.
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:05:45 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: For the attention of Graham Paul Anderson
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:12:40 +0000
From: "Believe in me, I am all you need to know!" (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: The typical 4AD fan
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:24:05 +0000
From: "Believe in me, I am all you need to know!" (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Chemical Brothers
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:27:16 +0100
From: HM Cambridge (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Here ya go! A pressy
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:38:32 +0000
From: "Believe in me, I am all you need to know!" (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: in defence of colostomy bags and eating veruccae
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:55:15 +0100
From: Graham Anderson (g.anderson@RPMS.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: in defence of colostomy bags and eating veruccae
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 12:12:48 +0000
From: "Believe in me, I am all you need to know!" (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: Belly WWW site
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 12:26:30 +0000
From: "Believe in me, I am all you need to know!" (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: Giving The Bird to "The Word"
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 07:24:05 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Giving The Bird to "The Word"
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 12:39:09 +0000
From: "Believe in me, I am all you need to know!" (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Body Shop (lllong:)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 08:09:27 -0500
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: attention of Graham Anderson and SB
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 08:03:44 -0500
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Chemical Brothers
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 07:08:51 -0700
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: assorted giblets
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:14:24 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: Re: New JMC single
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:54:48 -0500
From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: Re: New JMC single
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 17:17:38 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: No Balls auction
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 13:00:34 -0400
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: Re: New JMC single
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:29:32 -0700
From: Wade J Rencsok (wade@GAS.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU)
Subject: the happiness of swirly marbles and 7"s
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:58:23 -0700
From: euphonic k (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Lush list
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 12:05:58 -0800
From: "Heileson, Thom" (heilts1@MACGWX.GHC.ORG)
Subject: Re: 4AD/Body Shop CD
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 13:53:47 -0600
From: ELC (ecable@ACS.UCALGARY.CA)
Subject: Re: 4AD/Body Shop CD
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 14:09:35 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: The Doom Generation
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 17:47:22 -0400
From: David B Hanna (dhanna@SAS.UPENN.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD/Body Shop CD
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 17:05:54 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD/Body Shop CD
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 15:23:45 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: "...think I'm getting the hang of it"
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 15:48:24 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Wet Is An Eyesore
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 16:44:36 -0800
From: "Heileson, Thom" (heilts1@MACGWX.GHC.ORG)
Subject: AVAM Video for Sale
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 16:48:54 -0700
From: robert fossum (killjoke@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: New JMC single
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 17:46:46 -0700
From: "Brett G. Bull" (brettg@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Wet Is An Eyesore
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:13:02 -0700
From: Noah Slankard (slankard@PRIMENET.COM)

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 00:51:30 -0400
From: Srilank@AOL.COM
Subject: Body Shop (lllong:)


I walk into the body shop...there's some loverrrly scented soaps, 'real'
sponge back scratchers,  and oh-oh here comes a BS employee |=<
"Can I help you?"

(yea, I want an a bubble bath that dually acts as an aphrodisiac)

but no instead I said,

"Are there 'free' sampler cd's with a minimum purchase or something like
that...?

"cd's?" she says.

"y'know COMPACT DISC." I reply to her condescendingly in a tone that explains
*exactly* what it is that I want :)

"No."  (shiver) cold response.

eyes welling with water, disappointment slaps my face  "no?" :..(
I couldn't believe it.

There I was in the Body Shop with this vixen (with no cd's mind you) staring
me down, chanting "we don't have any damn cd's, never had them never will !"
 All the while I'm standing with tears running off my flushed cheek into this
mocha scented lotion/ body cleanser and there is this little lame
insignificant spot of lather from where my tears hath landed.  She turns away
from me in disgust, walks briskly over to her manager and proceeds to explain
ALL the messy details of our unfortunate (for me anyway) melee.  I can
overhear them:
"cd's???"  "4AD??!" "what the hell does that stand for?" "what kind of ass
would come into a *place* that sells soap primarily, looking for a cd??"
 "oh, christ I don't know"  "tell him to try the coffee shop for his 'sampler
cd' or better yet go to that diaper warehouse"  "oh oh my that's a hoot!!"
"ah ha ha HA HA HA!!"

I overhear this travesty of a bashing of not only myself, but of the very
music I have dared to search out.  I try to gallop swiftly out of the store,
deftly grabbing with my right hand a forrest green hand towel with which to
wipe away my tears.  In my left hand I swipe a half-dozen bath beads, just in
spite!!  Damn them!  (I know, I know I only have a shower and NO bathtub per
se but...)

Amongst all the commotion the part-time BS employee, during the process of
blowing her nose as a result of the crying that was preceded by the
incredulous laughter, noticed my shop-lifting deed.
"Look!" she exclaimed with a combination of post-laugh exclamation and fear.
"He's stealing!" I stopped instantly and turned around half expecting my
mother, a mall cop, or (heaven forbid) that evil grade school cafeteria cook.
 Each of these individuals had struck fear in my heart at one time or
another, and now there was a fourth to add to my mental list.  The other two
more important BS employees whisked around almost simutaneously deadlocking
their eyes with mine.  Sure, all of our eyes were tear stained and blurry,
and simple things such as running or walking would have (under normal
conditions) been nearly impossible, but there was a grave tone to this
moment.

I froze with the precision of that almost dead opposum you see for just a
second with your headlights.

...and then  I began to move

(oh god) I was running in slow motion. It was like a dream of being chased by
slightly hungry pit-bulls.  My feet were bricks my legs 200 pound weights.
 My coordination?  It had failed me:(  I stumbled to the green and black
checkered faux marble floor with an audacious slap as my hand and *ouch* face
collaborated to 'brake' my fall.
My head was swimming in a sea of confusion, fear, pain, and most of all
sampler cd's.

I could hear the quick footsteps of six birkenstock sandles rushing in my
direction.  "what was I to do??"  my mind reeled rhetorically.

But then. For a brief shining moment everything made perfect sense.

My mind made the connection to the objects that were presently in my left
hand. "Eureka!"  I thought. (oh no I didn't exclaim eureka!, I do have some
self respect!)  I suddenly felt a great surge of self-worth and adrenaline,
for I was MacGyver dammit!  With unprecedented precision, aim, and dumb luck
I hurled the bath beads at the surging BS employees.  At that moment the
planets aligned, Rush Limbaugh shut up, the Cocteau Twins & Ivo were in love
again, and bath bead residue (remember they were in my sweaty palms) collided
with the respective orbits of each BS employee.  The force of this bath bead
residue was so great from my expert southpaw delivery that all three
employees plummeted to the floor. Instantly.

I quickly gathered myself, brushing off the soap shavings that adorned the
floor and had through this escapade adhered to my clothes.  My right hand
clutching the hand towel I made a break for the exit.  Ahhhhhhhh.  I had made
it.

Back out into the clammer and business of the mall crowd, I had to seem
inconspicuous.  I strode along the mall halls playing cool, like I had never
even heard of a cd, or that a body shop carried such an item.  And y'know
what?  It worked.  In fact a mall cop walked adjacent to me for ten or so
strides and did NOT ask anything of me!!

I was not to be deterred just because of some miniscule mishap at a soap
shop, no-sir-ree.  I was determined to get a sampler cd!

I ducked (unnoticed) into Gap Kids.  I don't wear the clothes (well hardly
ever, and besides that part of my life is none of your business!!)
Low and behold, behind the cash register/ check-out area was the following

"With the purchase of any $25 at Gap Kids, you'll receive a sampler cd with
some of today's hottest hit makers!  Like,
Lisa Gerrard, Scheer, Air Miami, Tarnation, and many more!!!"

I felt relief, joy, and most of all accomplishment.  I felt for my wallet
which usually lays near my right buttock, and realized with horror that I had
left it on my nightstand.
"Darn it" I whispered to myself, and went home.

Jason

srilank@aol.com

(the preceeding was a dramatization, only the names and several items...well,
most items have been changed)


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 23:19:28 -0700
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: merchandise avail at avaim that I remember


        Pulling out of my memory...
AVAM CDs, and videos at the shows (available in fine stores everywhere too)

AVAM T shirts, one with the face with yellow stitching over it, one with the
cherries on the front, both had the AVAM text on the back, bought at the shows.

The poster with the face, cherries, and show dates on the front, selling for $5
at first but later in the week, given away for free.

Um, Warren and someone else's coloring book of Ultraman and Scenes From Amish
Life, in pretty limited quantities, at a Troubador show. (Come on, it's
curious, but I drew better Ultraman pictures when I was about 5.)

Some Lilliputs at Arcana Books, in Santa Monica. Didn't see these myself
though.

Available at the This Rimy River show:
Um, the big show catalog book, the big show poster for free, Shinro and
Vaughn's book, _Tokyo Salamander_, for >$100 (a bit more than the Japanese
price), um, Vaughn's Hamlet poster I think, printed record sleeves, j-cards,
and things mounted on foam core [the cool ones were the test pressings with all
the alignment and color test patterns on them. these were expensive, but signed
I think.] Last but not least, free Happiness postcards and little Belly pins.
{My sister informed me that the latter were Belly buttons.}

That's just about it.
-n


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:05:45 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Mouse on Mars, Frank Black etc.


After a week in Great Yarmouth I was once more free to roam the music
shops of Leicester clutching my wallet in my sweaty little hand.  Here's
what I found to waste my money on:

Frank Black / Teenage Fanclub - Peel Session (SFPSCD091)
  Four songs - "Handyman" (originally by Otis Blackwell, sounds like the
  Clash), Sister Isabel (Del Shannon), and two originals.  "The Man Who
  Was Too Loud" is a tribute to Jonathan Richman, in similar vein to
  "Candyman" or "Tsar", and "The Jaques Tati" is basically "Dance the
  Manta Ray" with different lyrics.  Neither Fatso nor the Fannies are
  at their best - one for fans only.

Mouse on Mars - Iaora Tahiti (PURE CD 48)
  MonM and Pram are approaching each other rapidly - "Helium" showed a
  more produced, techno-ish style, and this album is packed with twee
  little melodies and odd instruments.  Kraftwerk's Wolfgang Fluer drums
  on one track, and there are various other guest percussionists,
  vocalists and pedal steel guitarists.  I haven't listened to all
  seventy minutes yet, but highlights so far include "Saturday Night
  Worldcup Fieber" (just as you think "blimey, there's a lot going on
  here" they stick yet another tune on top), and "Schunkel" (*very*
  Pram-like).  Nice, also, to buy a technoey album where the tracks
  average at about five minutes instead of nine.

the first bit of which sounds very fine, and Julian Cope is back on
form.  Main's second single in the Hertz series, "Terminus", is not all
that surprising but still quite interesting if you are in the mood.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 08/08/95
On my walkman this morning : Deep Fried (Teenage) Fanclub
Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain;


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:12:40 +0000
From: "Believe in me, I am all you need to know!" (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: For the attention of Graham Paul Anderson


Listen...you ever call me middle class again and things'll turn
ugly...You have no idea who I am...so you can kiss my big
heterosexual ass

SB

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:24:05 +0000
From: "Believe in me, I am all you need to know!" (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: The typical 4AD fan


How stupid can a person be....Can you actually be a fan of a
particular label? There's a lot of great bands on 4AD but there
are also crap ones as well....I am certainly not a 4AD fan but
I like Belly, Lush, the Breeders & Slowdive

SB

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:27:16 +0100
From: HM Cambridge (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Chemical Brothers


I noticed that there's a track called Song to the Siren on the Chemical
Brothers CD. Has it got anything to do with TMC apart from the title. There
are no credits to 4ad that I can see.

Listening to the Smashed Hits by Red Lorry Yellow Lorry - great for that
early eighties Sisters/Goth nostalgia trip.

I got the Scheer Promo 7" yesterday - I think it IS one of the heaviest
things
4ad have probably put out but I think its great. It does remind me of
something but I'll need to listen to it a few more times to come up with
a name.

'H'
(Ruislip Ruffian)

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:38:32 +0000
From: "Believe in me, I am all you need to know!" (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: Here ya go! A pressy


"Thief"
 by T. Gorman and T.Donelly of Belly
 Transcribed by Dennis Kim < LDKim@nando.net >

 Acoustic guitar in standard tuning

 Diagrams for the Chordally Impaired :>

   C   F   F'  G   G'  F#      
 --2---3---3---0---5---4--
 --0---2---2---0---4---3--
 --1---1---1---3---3---2--
 --0---1---1---3---3---2--




[Tom plays acoustic guitar by himself, Tanya sings]

C F C
                    C
She wears her dress high
   F                                  G
As high as she pulls her hat down low

She's seeking out the places
C             F          G
Those other people can't go
F    C       F C
And hold her
                 C
I'm touched by the sea (I'm touched by the sea)
      F                                            G
She's walking on water when she walks in her sleep

She's dragging me through places
C       F            G    G' F# F'  
I didn't wanna be seen
         G     C
She is a liar
         F      G' F# F'
As i am a thief
                   G
(Be)cause of you I came
                    C     F C
(Be)cause of you i leave
            C               F
I wanna know (I wanna know)
                                  G
Why the monsters that hurt you so

Don't look like those things that
C          F       G    G' F# F'
We battled so long ago
                 G
And I thought I did my part
             C               F       C
When I pulled you out of there
                    G    F     C  F  G    G' F# F'
That night you left boot-marks on my wall
          G
You are my liar
   C               F        G' F# F'
So I will be your thief
                 G
Because of you I came

[enter band]
C          F     G
Because of you I leave (x3)
C          F          G
Wake up, baby we are home now (x3)
C           F G
We are home now  (x3)
C F C

There ya go,
Spiffy


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:55:15 +0100
From: Graham Anderson (g.anderson@RPMS.AC.UK)
Subject: in defence of colostomy bags and eating veruccae


>Hey you po-faced whingeing smarmy jaded cynical pseudo-indie lo-fi high-octane
>slack muthafuckas!


>experience the misery second-hand of seeing Throwing
>Muses on the late, unlamented British TV "show" The Word. Thank me for not
>mentioning the colostomy bag.

Throwing Muses on The Word was actually rather spiffing, as was about 90%
of their live music policy (the Pixies were really most fabulous on an
earlier series). The Word previewed young, hip and non-MTV Europe friendly
acts and gave them the chance to thrash around noisily and exuberently in
front of some very pretty go-go boys (I believe there were some chicks
involved too, but you'll have to ask my straight friends about that).

When American corporate (or should that be corpse-urate) network
television comes up with something as irreverent, enjoyable and
unrepeatable as The Word, then people selling their fanzines (yawn) can
whine smarmily, whinily and whilst fucking their muthas.

Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves, Britiain never, never, never
shall be without innovative public service & minority television...........



graham x!x!x!

* _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ *

Graham Paul Anderson, grsc                   MRC PET Methodology Group


                          " Apples and pears, apples and pears,
                 Hasn't the Queen Mother got a luvverly smile? "

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 12:12:48 +0000
From: "Believe in me, I am all you need to know!" (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: in defence of colostomy bags and eating veruccae


This is true....The Muses were "Cool as F%ck" (To borrow from the
Inspirals)....what was really good was the Electric chello
instead of a rythm guitar.

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 12:26:30 +0000
From: "Believe in me, I am all you need to know!" (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: Belly WWW site


For those of us with Internet access here is the address for a
pretty cool Belly site :



it also has a link to a rather good guitar-chord type place
(this link is in the NEWS section)

enjoy

SB

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 07:24:05 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Giving The Bird to "The Word"


OK, I only saw this show one time several years ago on a trip to England,
but..."innovative"?

Terry Christian and Amanda de Castoroil make our MTV presenters look like
Oxford classics dons by comparison....

Dave G.

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 12:39:09 +0000
From: "Believe in me, I am all you need to know!" (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Giving The Bird to "The Word"


Yeah everyone knows that the Word was totally dire but it did
have a brilliant music slot


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 08:09:27 -0500
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Body Shop (lllong:)


        Jason  writes:

>(the preceeding was a dramatization, only the names and several items...well,
>most items have been changed)

        Bravo, Well done!  But did you have to go and ruin it by telling us
that it wasn't true?


___<<<<<<<<<*********ckemnitz@students.wisc.edu********>>>>>>>>>___

"The purpose of words is to convey ideas.  When the ideas are grasped the
words are forgotten.  Where can I find a person who has forgotten words?
There is the one I would like to talk to."     -Chuang Tzu

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 08:03:44 -0500
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: attention of Graham Anderson and SB


        Graham Anderson :
>When American corporate (or should that be corpse-urate) network
>television comes up with something as irreverent, enjoyable and
>unrepeatable as The Word, then people selling their fanzines (yawn) can
>whine smarmily, whinily and whilst fucking their muthas.

        and SB :
>Listen...you ever call me middle class again and things'll turn
>ugly...You have no idea who I am...so you can kiss my big
>heterosexual ass

        Would you guys keep your big foul-mouthed bums (of any sexual
persuasion) out of our faces?  I don't care what caste or sexual persuasion
either of you are;  we don't need another derogatory-laced exchange of wits
here.

oh, would it help to say "Pretty Please"?,
cz

___<<<<<<<<<*********ckemnitz@students.wisc.edu********>>>>>>>>>___

"The purpose of words is to convey ideas.  When the ideas are grasped the
words are forgotten.  Where can I find a person who has forgotten words?
There is the one I would like to talk to."     -Chuang Tzu


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 07:08:51 -0700
From: David Mccallum (mccallum@EFN.ORG)
Subject: Re: Chemical Brothers


On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, HM Cambridge wrote:

> I noticed that there's a track called Song to the Siren on the Chemical
> Brothers CD. Has it got anything to do with TMC apart from the title. There
> are no credits to 4ad that I can see.

        There is no relation.  I have the track (from the Dust Brothers) on a
Junior Boys' Own compilation.  It just has a bunch of high octave female
vocals.  And I'm pretty sure none of them are Liz.  (I was excited buying it,
hoping that track _would_ be something a la Messiah's "Temple of Dreams"
(but perhaps more laid-back and introspective)).

        David.

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:14:24 -0500
From: hortman_m@HCCS.CC.TX.US
Subject: assorted giblets


lisaroo wrote:
> my only question is why the hell the body shop?

Don't you know?  That's where angst-ridden pretentious teenage art-school girls
go to get body spices--a perfect market to sell 4AD to!

Brant wrote:
> So maybe Woody shut down after 50 releases.

Nope, I just talked to him the other day.  Send him mail to his email
"cestlamort@aol.com" and he'll send you an updated catalog of releases.


marvynHortman


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:54:48 -0500
From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: Re: New JMC single


In <9507078078.AA807856432@gandalf.bio.uci.edu>, Martin A. HOYT wrote:
> I just heard a new Jesus and Mary Chain single
>I hope this means a new album is forthcoming.  They didn't
> mention if this single was even out yet.

I saw copies of the single in Toronto, Canada about three weeks ago. I believe
the upcoming full-length release will be a compilation of singles etc. much
like Barbed Wire Kisses and the Japanese CD from a few years back, but not a
new album.
-shill


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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 17:17:38 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: New JMC single


> Re: New JMC single
>
> Steve Hill (shill@HARPER.CC.IL.US)
> Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:54:48 -0500
>
> In <9507078078.AA807856432@gandalf.bio.uci.edu>, Martin A. HOYT
> wrote:
> > I just heard a new Jesus and Mary Chain single
> >I hope this means a new album is forthcoming. They didn't
> > mention if this single was even out yet.
>
> I saw copies of the single in Toronto, Canada about three weeks ago.
> I believe
> the upcoming full-length release will be a compilation of singles
> etc. much
> like Barbed Wire Kisses and the Japanese CD from a few years back,
> but not a
> new album.
> -shill

been and gone in the uk and caused not a ripple from what i remember.
probably due to it's lack of airplay in turn due to the fact it dissed
the biggest single broadcaster in the uk. there was a time when i could
recite every track from every single the mary chain put out (90% of the
lyrics too) but this one just sort of washed over me and left me unmoved.
sigh. a sure sign that you are buying too many records.

i guess the japanese cd you're talking about was 'the sound of speed'.
most annoyed when this had an english release a couple of months after
shelling out for the expensive japanese import (track listing was
different but not much, about 2 tracks i didn't have, worse cover too).

will have another listen to the single tonight (whilst reading warped
reality #3) and see if it inspires me.

--
andyx
a.dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 13:00:34 -0400
From: "John B. Jones" (jojones@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU)
Subject: No Balls auction


I want to sell my NO BALLS CD.  I will sell to the highest bidder.

Please e-mail me privately with bids.


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
John B. Jones                           e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu


"Look at the massacre on cable/ But you know it won't happen here,
 We're all too busy watching massacres on cable/ Oh yeah." -Robyn Hitchcock
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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:29:32 -0700
From: Wade J Rencsok (wade@GAS.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: New JMC single

              at Aug 8, 95 05:17:38 pm

> > > I just heard a new Jesus and Mary Chain single
> > >I hope this means a new album is forthcoming. They didn't
> > > mention if this single was even out yet.

Does anyone know the going rate on any of the various Jesus y Mary Chain
bootlegs, I have MUSHROOM, and THE Genius of JAMC. They sound great on a
decent stereo, with a decent turntable.  They're both really od, pre darklands
I beleive, one even has Vegetable Man on it.

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:58:23 -0700
From: euphonic k (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: the happiness of swirly marbles and 7"s


  giving praise to two singles from MI groops...

  * windy & carl - 'emerald' / 'fragments of time & space'
    good droney guitar music, on the fluid side. nice washes of guitar,
    with some nice vox by windy {very much buried on 'emerald'}. nothing
    hard, this is a very mellow affair..and a rather pretty one, too.
    a bit like loveslies on potent narcotics. a nice definition of the
    syruppy space that music can explore. available in a ltd. run of
    500, via: enraptured
              8a penwith road
              southfields
              london SW18 4QF

  * godzuki/asha vida - '12 inch dance mix' / 'pinion'
    this is great. the most fun i've had with a 7" in a long time
    {and there is absolutely no disgusting pun intended there}.
    godzuki have soared up to my new "pet band" spot. everyone
    should luv them...
    in a ltd. run of 1000, via: binausic records
    ($4 ppd, MO only.        )  31542 gable
    (payable to Frank Rotondo)  livonia, mi 48152



  *cricket*  ...just crowned someone 'praying mantis'...

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 12:05:58 -0800
From: "Heileson, Thom" (heilts1@MACGWX.GHC.ORG)
Subject: Lush list


(I received a request from Cyril to post here about the Lush mailing list, in
case any are interested...)

A Dutch fellow named Cyril runs the Lush list -- currently there are some
technical difficulties going on with it, so he is distributing all the mail
personally -- hopefully this will be fixed soon.

You can reach him at: ctjahja@xs4all.nl

    + ---    Thom S. Heileson
   + +-             oR                 [antiAxiomaticism unlimited]
    + -    phASER@cyberspace.com

           heilts1@macgw.ghc.org

           "I'll give you an example, typically.
    It's less complicated than it simply should be." - Wire


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 13:53:47 -0600
From: ELC (ecable@ACS.UCALGARY.CA)
Subject: Re: 4AD/Body Shop CD


I happened by a local Body Shop store today here in Calgary and of course
they knew nothing about the cd, but they did give me their customer
service number.  if anyone's interested call 1-800-387-4592 and you can
harrass (er ask) them all the questions you want about the disc.  On the
back of the sleeve it says _...think I'm getting the hang of it_ which I
assume would be the title of said sampler.  From what I heard on the disc
I can not wait for Lisa Gerrard's _the Mirror Pool_ nor Tarnation's
_Gentle Creatures_ to be released!  They are wonederful!

Shreddies!

Elaun


X  Elaun L. Cable        x  Rm. 127 MacEwan Hall   x "My life suits    X
X  Spoken Word Director  x  University of Calgary  x  me very well..." X
X  CJSW 90.9 fm          x  Calgary, AB            x                   X
X                        x  T2N 4N1                x                   X
X      ecable@acs.ucalgary.ca    /    cable@freenet.calgary.ab.ca      X


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 14:09:35 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD/Body Shop CD


To reiterate someone else's point, I don't think we've even
established that there is any connection between the sampler
and The Body Shop beyond that phrase included somewhere on the
packaging. It could mean anything, and certainly the fact that
those of you who have checked your local Body Shop found no
such evidence lends strong support that there is no connection.

I'll get to the bottom of this and report back.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 17:47:22 -0400
From: David B Hanna (dhanna@SAS.UPENN.EDU)
Subject: The Doom Generation


Hello

This was forwarded to me from a friend on the Curve list... Sounds yummy
to me... wouldn't you agree?  :)

(Lest you forget, Gregg Araki made _Totally F***ed Up_, which was
simply oozing 4ad.  i.e. TMC, Pale Saints, RHP, TWP, etc., et al.)

Dave

>
>       For those of you who have been asking about this movie and it's
>soundtrack, there is an article on it in the August issue of Alternative
>Press.  Here is a relevant excerpt:
>
>       "Doom Generation's soundtrack, which includes Nine Inch Nails, Jesus
>and Mary Chain, Cocteau Twins, Meat Beat Manifesto, and Slowdive, also
>plays more central role than in the average "fill it with hip tunes"
>flick.  "The music is all from my personal collection.  A lot of the
>attitude, and the feelings of alienation, disenfranchisement and anger,
>comes from the music.  I'm much more into buying cds than I am into
>keeping up with current movies.""
>
>       The quote is from the movie's director, Greg Araki.  There was no
>mention of Curve, although they would seem to fit what he's talking about,
>and judging from the other bands, I wouldn't be surprised if they are on the
>soundtrack, like some people have heard.  If so, I really hope he uses
>"Nothing Without Me" which is the only Curve song released which I have not
>been able to get on cd yet.
>       For all interested, the soundtrack is being organized by Mark Geiger
>for American recordings, and the movie is due out in October, so the album
>should be out around then too.
>       If you really want to see the movie before then, get yourself a ticket
>to Lollapalooza, because they're showing it on the tour.  (Damn, I
>missed it...)
>
>Doug


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 17:05:54 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD/Body Shop CD


I guess I got the Body Shop searching going when I mentioned that I had a copy
with the words BODY SHOP in the packaging.  I should clarify...

It just says BODY SHOP, between two angel's wings, like a logo:


                       + THE  +
                       + BODY +
                       + SHOP +
                        +    +
                         ++++
                          ++


And that's it...I found my copy in a used record shoppe...I have a feeling that
it was a promo-only release, sold to the shop by an unscrupulous radio
DJ/record exec.  I doubt that it has any big connection with the real Body
Shop.  Keep looking, though...

Aaron

declerca@carleton.edu

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 15:23:45 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: 4AD/Body Shop CD


Why doesn't anyone listen to me?  You're ALL going to the WRONG Body Shop!!

The Body Shop is a strip joint on the Sunset Strip, and if you go there,
you will find stacks and stacks of "...think I'm getting the hang of it" cds.

  *B-)*

Ivo


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 15:48:24 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: "...think I'm getting the hang of it"


By the way...

If everyone is complaining so much about how they don't like their AVAM
and No Balls cds, why is everyone so jonesin' to get this one?  It's not
all that wonderful.  Scheer sucks.  Tarnation isn't all that good.
Wolfgang Press isn't on the label anymore.  Heidi Berry is...well, Heidi
Berry.  The Air Miami song isn't one of their best.  And Lisa Gerrard
just wails like an UNcastrated banshee.  The Mojave song is the only one
that's really quality, I think.  The others are ok, don't get me
wrong...but not worth shoplifting and assault with bath beads, let alone
having to go to Gap Kids for.....


Ivo

@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@
from _Cher's Guide For the Chronically Clueless_ :

boink fest (boynk fest),n. 1. Have sex in quantity. 2. doing it big time.
hy men ally chal lenged (hi men al e chaleng d), adj. 1. a virgin.
wig (wig), v., wiggin' or wigged 1. become irrational, freak out. 2. go postal.
wo man (wu man), n. 1. your boyfriend's name for you.
*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*

                                                         beswick@scf.usc.edu


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 16:44:36 -0800
From: "Heileson, Thom" (heilts1@MACGWX.GHC.ORG)
Subject: Wet Is An Eyesore


> I heard the disk 'fore the video came out, and I remember being very
anxious
>to see it! I was basically thrilled with the whole thing, with maybe the
>exception of the last DCD one. What's the name of that song? Not "Frontier"
>but the other one?

The Protagonist.

I think it's a rather nice video. Keep in mind it pre-dated all those
Obsession ads. I think.

-----

>water, water, everywhere...

Touchee! My question is: where is this quote from? I know I've heard it
sampled in some song...

    + ---    Thom S. Heileson
   + +-             oR                 [antiAxiomaticism unlimited]
    + -    phASER@cyberspace.com

           heilts1@macgw.ghc.org

           "I'll give you an example, typically.
    It's less complicated than it simply should be." - Wire

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 16:48:54 -0700 retained.
From: robert fossum (killjoke@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Subject: AVAM Video for Sale


I have a copy of the AVAM video...I would like to auction it off.. its
limited to 1000 copies and is quite difficult to find ( unlike the cd
).. it contains a different track listing than the cd..

Considering all the discussion about "ridiculous prices" for some of
this stuff: I geuss I am just another greedy capitalist.. so be it but
I am broke right now and need the cash to pay bills..

Send email along with your bid to: killjoke@ix.netcom.com

I will take bids up thru the 22nd of August..

Rob
--


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 17:46:46 -0700
From: "Brett G. Bull" (brettg@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: New JMC single


> Does anyone know the going rate on any of the various Jesus y Mary Chain
> bootlegs, I have MUSHROOM, and THE Genius of JAMC. They sound great on a
> decent stereo, with a decent turntable.  They're both really od, pre darklands
> I beleive, one even has Vegetable Man on it.

I have the bootleg called "Fuck". The recording quality is poor. It has
some Peel Sessions and some demos. I think "Vegetable Man" appears twice.
It is on purple marbled vinyl. The best part is that the jacket has been
recycled from an old John Lennon album. If you look inside you see the
outside of some Lennon album. It is odd. I am wondering if all of these
albums use the same recycled album. I am probably not explaining this
right but if you have the record you probably know what I am talking
about. And I got mine for about $12. That was in '91, though.

Brett

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:13:02 -0700
From: Noah Slankard (slankard@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: Wet Is An Eyesore


> >re: lonely as an eyesore:
> >water, water, everywhere...
>
> Touchee! My question is: where is this quote from? I know I've heard it
> sampled in some song...

  The line "water, water, everywhere..." comes from Samuel Taylor Coleridge's
"The Rime Of The Ancient Mariner." "Water, water, everywhere-but not a
drop to drink..." (punctuation mine)
                                        Noah
                                (slankard@primenet.com)


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