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Subject: A Quick Liquorice Bite
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 01:52:31 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Felt
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:27:05 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Tea 'n' Crumpets with Warped Reality #3
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 01:22:09 -0400
From: susan@ACS.BU.EDU
Subject: Re: R: reflections on Lonely Is An Eyesore
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 11:15:22 -0400
From: "Johnathan A. Rickman" (jknee@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: CTs
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 16:46:21 +0100
From: HM Cambridge (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Lilliput auction update
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:20:28 -0400
From: Bairmiami@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: reflections on Lonely Is An Eyesore
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 17:46:40 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Body Shop / 4AD Sampler
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:12:41 -0400
From: Hrtn@AOL.COM
Subject: Elysium CD is here
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:23:50 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Ridiculous prices...
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 11:54:42 -0700
From: Julian Stewart (camus@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Body Shop / 4AD Sampler
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 19:58:09 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: reflections on Lonely Is An Eyesore
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:09:05 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Ridiculous prices...
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:36:36 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: avam merchandise
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 11:45:13 -0700
From: lushmuse (eahu597@EA.OAC.UCI.EDU)
Subject: AVAM disc
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:17:44 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: avam merchandise
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 14:33:59 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Ridiculous prices...
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 14:47:06 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: latest promo offering from four a dee
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:11:50 -0700
From: euphonic k (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: CLM or not CLM?
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 14:32:01 -0700
From: nelson@HELIOS.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: Body Shop / 4AD Sampler
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 15:47:31 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Ridiculous prices...
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 19:01:14 -0500
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: lingering slowdive questions faq
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 18:26:05 -0700
From: the vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: 4AD/Body Shop CD
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 22:36:07 -0400
From: TMParade@AOL.COM
Subject: New JMC single
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 21:33:52 PST
From: "Martin A. HOYT" (MAHOYT@UCI.EDU)

Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 01:52:31 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: A Quick Liquorice Bite


In response to John Jones, as nice a listen as "Listening Cap" generally is,
I would never put it in the same league as "Manos," by the Spinanes.
 Rebecca's songs are much better and rely much less on wordplay than anything
on LC.  Two of LC's three best tunes are covers!

Dave G.

Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:27:05 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Felt

              "Wendy Lyon" at Jul 30, 95 01:14:20 am

Wendy Lyon  wrote:
>
> > Next (jeez I'm really full of questions today!) does anyone
> > know how to pair up the names (Ainge, Duffy, Thomas) with the lads
> > in the photo on the "Let The Snakes Crinkle Their Heads To Death" album?
>
> Was it you who posted this question on a.m.a a while ago? 'cause it
> seemed whoever posted it had a different picture on their sleeve
> than I have. Anyway, on mine, Lawrence is looking into the mirror,
> Martin is looking down and I don't know if the other is Gary or
> Marco....

There are three different covers - the vinyl album I have has a colour
photo of the band (standing in some woods?), the back of the album
being a blow-up of Lawrence's belt from the front cover photo.  Then
the album was reissued with the front being the same as the back, and I
*think* this was also the CD cover.  The Creation CDs have since been
reissued in generic white covers which are really quite nasty, with
black and white photos inside (I think this is the photo Wendy is
talking about).  I'll dig out the vinyl album tonight and take a look
at it.  By the way, LTSCTHTD is the last Felt album to buy - it's a
very pretty collection of instrumentals, but only 18-19 minutes long
and really only of interest to hardcore fans.


--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 07/08/95
On my walkman this morning : Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix
Hath really neither joy, nor love, nor light,


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 01:22:09 -0400
From: susan@ACS.BU.EDU
Subject: Tea 'n' Crumpets with Warped Reality #3


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And thanks fer yer time.


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 11:15:22 -0400
From: "Johnathan A. Rickman" (jknee@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: R: reflections on Lonely Is An Eyesore


 I heard the disk 'fore the video came out, and I remember being very anxious
to see it! I was basically thrilled with the whole thing, with maybe the
exception of the last DCD one. What's the name of that song? Not "Frontier"
but the other one? Anyway, the video did open my eyes to a few things:

1)Ronny Moorings is/was a Robert Smithy lookin' dude, and acts/sings kinda
like him.
2)Colorbox are as cheesy as they sound.
3)I remember thinking that Dif Juz and TWP were the hippest/coolest bands
ever. When I got the LP, "Cut The Tree" didn't cut it for me, but somehow
seeing the video turned that into my favorite TWP song!

+++++++
John A.                  jknee@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
Rickman
+++++++

On Sun, 6 Aug 1995, Kendal Myka Obermeyer wrote:

> Whoa ************
>      I just found the video Lonely Is an Eyesore (actually, I ordered
> it and they never called me after a year ;b ) and was wondering how
> many other people had the cd first and then watched the footage, and
> if so, what were your reactions?  Any theories on Acid, Bitter & Sad,
> Cut the Tree, or the Protagonist?  Any of you who wish to hazard a
> guess at the doppelgaenger motif in  a.b. & s. or cut the tree?
> Gawd...literature and film majors have ruined me ;b I can no longer be
> a mere spectator ;b
>                         Anyone?
>                             Anyone?
>
>
>
>                                 *Kendal* (kobermey@unlgrad1.unl.edu)
>


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 16:46:21 +0100
From: HM Cambridge (hmc4@mailer.york.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: CTs


On holiday I read The Crow Road by Ian Banks. At one point in the story ,
the central character (Prentice) relates how, whilst getting drunk and
stoned, the Cocteau Twins lyrics become decipherable.
So thats how you do it.

'H'

Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:20:28 -0400
From: Bairmiami@AOL.COM
Subject: Lilliput auction update


The highest bid so far is $170.  This auction lasts until Aug. 20.  Remember
to please bid via e-mail.

bairmiami@aol.com


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 17:46:40 -0700
From: Andrew Dean (a.dean@UK22P.BULL.CO.UK)
Subject: Re: reflections on Lonely Is An Eyesore


water, water, everywhere...

things? same as the thirteen year itch? t-shirts, cds, videos, posters?
ta, andyx

Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:12:41 -0400
From: Hrtn@AOL.COM
Subject: Body Shop / 4AD Sampler


I talked to some Body Shop people, and they said only major cities like NYC
and San Francisco carry the samplers. These are their major testing sites,
with a few other cities. So it`s not a chain wide offering.

The last sampler ``No Balls`` came with Option magazine subscriptions, so
they may be floating around as part of a deal with someone else.

Also, I heard the sampler and it has an unlisted 10th track that I would
swear has Rachel (Slowdive) singing. Is this Mojave (aka Slowdive)?

............Paul

Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:23:50 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Elysium CD is here

          popepat@aol.com

Dewdrops has just released CD #4, _Glisten_ by Elysium.

"Glisten" is the perfect word for this sun-kissed album, the debut
release from Los Angeles band Elysium.

Guitars meander and sparkle while Jen's angel-siren vocals pour
out emotion into beautiful layers. The music clearly resonates with
bliss, with an uncommon elegance and a wonderful sense of subtlety
that sets them apart from your other favorites. The results
are stunning, original and gorgeous.

The CD features 11 songs / 57 minutes of music produced by the band.
Half of the album was mixed by Shimmy Disc's Kramer, the other half by Elysium.

Jenny Adams
Tony Cornejo
Rodney Rodriguez
John West

Track Listing:
1. Glistening Ganache   4:34
2. Soledad              6:49
3. Proud Man            3:18
4. Dulcinea             4:11
5. I Was A Child        4:45
6. Sweetly Said         3:57
7. Close To The End     5:58
8. Calm Peril           5:12
9. In Times...          6:01
10. The Road            5:37
11. First Thoughts      5:11
Total time:            56:30

Produced by:
Elysium

Mixed by:
Kramer  (1,2,6,8,10)
Elysium (3,4,5,7,9,11)

_Glisten_ is available by mail order for $10.00 plus $1.50
shipping. CA residents must add sales tax. Non-US orders:

SPECIAL PRICES ON MULTIPLE CD ORDERS! (US only)

2 CDs for $21 ($2 off)
3 CDs for $31 ($4 off)
4 CDs for $40 ($6 off)

Other albums available:

Dew 001         Thurtene
A tribute to 4AD with 13 bands covering 13 songs from the 4AD label.
The songs run the gamut, from renditions faithful to the originals,
to striking re-interpretations; from studio-produced to
home recordings. Features Orange, Hover, Tel Basta, The Moon Seven Times,
and nine others covering Pixies, Breeders, Modern English, Clan Of
Xymox, Cocteau Twins, Throwing Muses, etc.
Alternative Press says 'file next to your This Mortal Coil box set'

Dew 002         Orange
With influences from  Cocteau Twins and Harold Budd, to the Cranes,
to Virginia Astley, Orange would definitely find a home in the hearts
of any fans of lilting and blissful music. Vocalist Sonya Waters has
one of those incredible voices that can either belt out heavenly lyrics
that might be English words or can send shivers down your back
while you sit enraptured.
Alternative Press calls it a 'gorgeous gossamer of a debut album.'

Dew 003         hover - almost everything
Combining sweet girl/guy vocals, and an incredibly infectious and addictive
style, from fun, kick-butt romps along backroads, to charming lullabies, hover
has some of the best indiepop songs we've ever heard. Every single track here
sings its heart out, with jangling guitar melodies, reminiscent of early
Felt or the Field Mice, and an overall exuberance that will have you tapping
your toes in no time. _almost everything_ is highly recommended for anyone who
follows the indiepop scene, or just anyone looking for a good time.
Milkbone says 'They play the kind of breezy janglin' guitar pop
that predecessors Velocity Girl and Unrest ignited the whole indie-pop
frenzy with.'

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 11:54:42 -0700
From: Julian Stewart (camus@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Ridiculous prices...


        It's come to my attention that someone is holding
an auction in which the "No Balls" sampler is currently
going for $37! Absolutely ridiculous...

        Really, "No Balls" and the AVAM disc are turning
into the scams of the year. The material is largely either
previously released or soon-to-be-released, and the
remaining unreleased material isn't that good, IMHO.

        I can't really fault the people selling these
items at ridiculous prices-- it's done by auction, and
the people participating in these auctions clearly
believe it's worth their time and money.

         Is there anyone on this list that truly
believes "No Balls" is worth $37, or that AVAM is
worth $25? If so, I have a few pet rocks you
might be interested in... :)


-julian-

--
Julian Stewart
camus@netcom.com

Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 19:58:09 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Body Shop / 4AD Sampler


>I talked to some Body Shop people, and they said only major cities like NYC
>and San Francisco carry the samplers. These are their major testing sites,
>with a few other cities. So it`s not a chain wide offering.
>Also, I heard the sampler and it has an unlisted 10th track that I would
>swear has Rachel (Slowdive) singing. Is this Mojave (aka Slowdive)?
>
>............Paul

So, if people in Sevillia and Celta de Vigo in Spain can march up with
25,000 to the city hall and say: "WE DON'T WANT OUR FOOTBALL TEAM SEE
RELEGATED TO THE THIRD DIVISION", why then can't you Los Angeles 4AD-listers
march up to the 4AD office and say: "He you fuckers give us a pile of those
Body Shop Sampler CD's!!!!"

Shoot them!! (the entire 4AD staff, not the CD's!)

Frank

++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++

Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:09:05 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: reflections on Lonely Is An Eyesore


Other than the limited edition CD (10,000 copies made) and the limited edition
video (1,000 copies made)...I've seen no other All Virgos Are Mad merchandise.


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:36:36 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Ridiculous prices...


>         Is there anyone on this list that truly
>believes "No Balls" is worth $37, or that AVAM is
>worth $25? If so, I have a few pet rocks you
>might be interested in... :)


Pet rocks!  Please, how much?  I'm an avid collector of stones, and...

nah...

Do y'all predict the AVAM limited edition (of 1,000) video will be a goldmine
someday?  How many Lonely is an Eyesore videos were made, and are they
expensive today?



questioning aaron

declerca@carleton.edu

Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 11:45:13 -0700
From: lushmuse (eahu597@EA.OAC.UCI.EDU)
Subject: avam merchandise


hey!

regarding avam merchandise, a bookstore of the arts in santa monica,
california, called "arcana bookstore" sells or did sell avam stuff.  they
were the only place in los angeles where one can get a hold of vaughan
oliver's "this rimy river" (well, the only place i know), v23 t-shirts,
avam t-shirts, and they even sold lilliput for $100.  but becuase there
were so much demand ofr lilliput, i don't know if they still have
it...they also had the avam cds and the videos the last time i was
there.   so call (310) 555-1212 and ask for information on their
telephone number...hope this helps!

laters!

Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:17:44 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: AVAM disc


A couple months ago I saw still plenty of AVAM discs
at Aron's in Hollywood for $11.98. Whether they still
have them is anybody's guess, but I haven't yet had the
impression that this is terribly hard to get.

By the way there's a Body Shop in the Century City Mall
if any of you are looking for one.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 14:33:59 -0500
From: YOUNG GRASSHOPPER (DECLERCA@CARLETON.EDU)
Subject: Re: avam merchandise


the number is  (in a metallic computer-operator tone):

area code 3-1-0
4-5-8
1-4-9-9

That's what they say for Arcana Bookstore, source of things rimy.

I'll check it out....aaron


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 14:47:06 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Re: Ridiculous prices...


my only question is why the hell the body shop?
lisaroo

Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:11:50 -0700
From: euphonic k (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: latest promo offering from four a dee


  has it been confirmed that this is available via the body shop?
  i just said it was a *possibility*...i wasn't sure, though....
  for all i know, it could be available at an auto body shop....


  *k*  ...icky thick and silver spoon moon...


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 14:32:01 -0700
From: nelson@HELIOS.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: CLM or not CLM?


The last thing I received from C'est La Mort was
a Johanna's House Of Glamour single, Cat# CLM 50.
So maybe Woody shut down after 50 releases. I hope not.
Maybe I'll call him and find out. He used to be on AOL
at cestlamort@aol.com.

By the way, I have a few extra CLM 50's sitting around if anyone
wants them, for the cost of postage.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 15:47:31 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Body Shop / 4AD Sampler


>
> Also, I heard the sampler and it has an unlisted 10th track that I would
> swear has Rachel (Slowdive) singing. Is this Mojave (aka Slowdive)?
>
 Yes yes yes...it was Mojave.  They didn't have a name for the song yet,
therefore just added it as an unlisted extra track.  I heard the Mojave
album Friday night and I have to say, if you are expecting to hear
Slowdive, don't listen!  It sounds nothing like Slowdive.  It's nice,
it's pretty, it's REALLY acoustic, but it's not Slowdive.  Some songs are
really cheesy, and the general concensus of those who were listening was
that it was a good album to go to sleep to...

It reminded me a LOT of "Sweet Magnolias" by Moon Seven Times. All of the
songs had that underproduced acoustic pretty but slow type of sound...

Ivo


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 19:01:14 -0500
From: cz (ckemnitz@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: Ridiculous prices...


>         Is there anyone on this list that truly
>believes "No Balls" is worth $37, or that AVAM is
>worth $25? If so, I have a few pet rocks you
>might be interested in... :)

And let me know too, so that i can sell you the "no balls" and "avam" disks
collecting dust in my cd rack.  :)

-cz

___<<<<<<<<<*********ckemnitz@students.wisc.edu********>>>>>>>>>___

"The purpose of words is to convey ideas.  When the ideas are grasped the
words are forgotten.  Where can I find a person who has forgotten words?
There is the one I would like to talk to."     -Chuang Tzu


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 18:26:05 -0700
From: the vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: lingering slowdive questions faq


What, if anything, is the stated or implied shift represented by the
name change?

Does Slowdive still exist as a project?

Is "Chris the keyboard player" Chris Trout from AC Temple and Spoonfed
Hybrid, or just some guys who goes by the name Chris?

What has become of the two promised soundtracks?

Has Creation evered *all* ties and if so WHY THE FUCK??


 thanks

and curse the body shop

einexile


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 22:36:07 -0400
From: TMParade@AOL.COM
Subject: 4AD/Body Shop CD


4AD just drives me nuts sometimes!

(yet I'm always back for more)


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 21:33:52 PST
From: "Martin A. HOYT" (MAHOYT@UCI.EDU)
Subject: New JMC single


I just heard a new Jesus and Mary Chain single on a local radio station's "pick
to click" spot.  It was entitled "I Hate Rock and Roll".  Apparently, the
distortion and feedback is back in favor, and I thought it sounded great.  Nice
hooks buried in feedback, and lyrics like: "I love the BBC/I love it when
they're pissing on me/I love MTV/I love it when they're shitting on me.."  A
great tune (IMHO), I hope this means a new album is forthcoming.  They didn't
mention if this single was even out yet.

Martin
mahoyt@uci.edu

P.S. If anyone in So. California is looking for the AVAM CD, I've seen a few at
the Tower Alternative outlet in Costa Mesa.


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