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Subject: Red house painters (again): Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 23:09:42 -0700; From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Young Gods-Only Heaven: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 02:36:06 -0400; From: "Neil G." (NEILG@AURUM.CHEM.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: Re: Rare Slowdive FS! (3 Items): Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 23:38:43 -0700; From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: do we all know that Bel Cantos record is due in september?: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 22:06:20 +0200; From: Kjetil Torgrim Homme (kjetilho@ifi.uio.no)
Subject: Re: Belly: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:44:48 +0000; From: I am all you need to know! (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: ....23....: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:48:36 +0000; From: I am all you need to know! (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Colourbox: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:57:11 +0200; From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (lingebri@SUNSCIPW.CERN.CH)
Subject: Re: porcupine tree CD???: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:12:19 -0400; From: MCINTYRE@PA.MSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Non-4AD Brain Teaser...: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:23:47 -0400; From: MCINTYRE@PA.MSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Rare Slowdive FS! (3 Items): Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 07:19:42 -0700; From: shane (shane@trex.org)
Subject: Re: Young Gods-Only Heaven: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:20:24 -0500; From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: Re: Red house painters (again): Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 07:08:52 -0700; From: shane (shane@trex.org)
Subject: hip huggin' tiny tees......: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:11:59 +0100; From: Graham Anderson (g.anderson@RPMS.AC.UK)
Subject: Sign Me Up!: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:20:19 PDT; From: bchina@crown.net
Subject: Re: Red House Painters (again): Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:19:07 -0700; From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Red house painters (again): Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:28:57 -0700; From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Red house painters (again)....after "Drop": Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:54:19 -0400; From: Jason Phillips (Eelnosaj@AOL.COM)
Subject: Miscellaneous stuff: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:49:32 -0400; From: jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU
Subject: Re: Young Gods: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:46:18 -0500; From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: Pale Saints/Cocteau trades?: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:04:31 PDT; From: bchina@crown.net
Subject: Tarnation: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:09:14 -0700; From: Noah Slankard (slankard@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: Red house painters (again): Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:37:01 -0700; From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Red house painters (again)....after "Drop": Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 23:04:36 +0200; From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Liquorice: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:33:18 -0700; From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: new Aphex Twin single and Belly CD for sale: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:56:52 -0400; From: GrimaceSCU@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Pale Saints/Cocteau trades?: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:51:39 -0500; From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Slowdive first EP where?: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 18:18:55 -0400; From: Drarg (drarg@M21.SAIL.LEON.K12.FL.US)
Subject: Pale Saints/Cocteau trades?: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 17:54:02 CDT; From: Janice Headley (ariane181@DALLAS.RELAY.UCM.ORG)
Subject: Re: Seefeel/Scorn: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 18:59:14 CST; From: thad.engeling@CCQM.NATINST.COM
Subject: latest release schedule: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:35:31 -0700; From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: Re: latest release schedule: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 20:46:00 -0500; From: JEHEINDL@AMHERST.EDU
Subject: Re: Slowdive first EP where?: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 17:18:08 -0700; From: David Stack (dstack@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: i found a goldmine!: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 18:51:41 -0700; From: josh@ASU.EDU
Subject: Re: Pale Saints/Cocteau trades?: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 22:52:05 -0400; From: "r. n. dominick" (cinnamon@ONE.NET)
Subject: fine friend ep: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 23:03:13 -0400; From: Pramboy@AOL.COM
Subject: Lonely an Eyesore: Still Rare?: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 23:32:35 -0400; From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Pale Saints/Cocteau trades?: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 22:47:59 -0500; From: Shana Skaletsky (isis@VENUS.MCS.COM)
Subject: Underground Lovers Live: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 14:11:00 EST; From: "Ellens, Harm" (HEllens@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.COM.AU)
Subject: Re: Dallas: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 00:24:13 -0400; From: EyeRate@AOL.COM

Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 23:09:42 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Red house painters (again)


My first question about rhp was quickly answered by other listmembers.
But nobody has touched the second, and that's what I really want to
know.  So here it is again.  What the heck happened to the other demos
that down colorful hill was taken from?  Were they later used on the two
self titled albums or are there more wonderful songs still unreleased?
Does anyone have these?  If so I'd love a copy.  Come on, please?

aaron

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 02:36:06 -0400
From: "Neil G." (NEILG@AURUM.CHEM.WITS.AC.ZA)
Subject: Young Gods-Only Heaven


    Someone mentioned this new album about two weeks ago on the list.
Having heard rumours about it myself for a while I could not wait to
lay my hands on it.  I finally did this week.  Although it is good, I
was a bit disappointed.  Musically it lies somewhere between L. Rouge
and their self titled debut album.  It is a must for all Young Gods
fans, but those who have not yet acquired any of their music and want
to, would be advised to rather spend their money on earlier releases.
The Young Gods' music however still remain premier 'going-out' music.
Nothing like their schizophrenic melodies(?) to get you in a
'hooligan' mood while you're warming up for a night out. >;->
    Also, most of Franz's lyrics on 'Only Heaven' are sung in English.

    +-+-+-+-+-+
    |Neil   "The world's most commonly sexually transmitted disease
    |        are children." - friend

Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 23:38:43 -0700
From: a device for squeezing a calico extract (NMARSHALL@POMONA.EDU)
Subject: Re: Rare Slowdive FS! (3 Items)


>Slowdive Blue Flexi (Early Demos, Only 500 made!)
>  Beach Song
>  Take Me Down

If people are looking for this, I noticed that the recent IPR catalog has a
Slowdive "Beach Song" flexi on Sunday Records. I'm guessing this is the same
one so it's still around. You could find out more from Brandon Capps, the guy
in Half String who does IPR's mailorder, who's on the list. He's at
bcapps@primenet.com (I hope he doesn't mind my posting his address)

-n

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 00:39:42 -0700
From: the vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: new bel canto album imminent yay yay yay yay yay yay yay

Hi everyone. A new Aphex Twin ep is due in a few weeks, too. Been meaning to mention that. In other news, I have become a full blown FAX junkie and no longer remember what guitars sound like, so like I have nothing else to say. Bye. :) e ---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 22:06:20 +0200
From: Kjetil Torgrim Homme (kjetilho@ifi.uio.no)
Subject: Re: do we all know that Bel Cantos record is due in september?

[Tor Arne]

|   This seems pretty certain this time, as I read it on a piece of
|   niceley piece of colord printed paper, given out by the great CD-
|   store/chain Hysj-Hysj. I think I remember seeing "international
|   release", but I'm not 100% sure. shit. I wish I had the paper
|   here. I dont even remember who they signed for, but it COULD have
|   been an american company. (havent any other .no seen this?)

Sure we have :-) For the benefit of new readers: They got a deal with
Atlantic Records. Anneli's pregnancy kind of gets in the way of a
fullscale assault on America in September (she's due to bear her child
in August, I think), so the US release will be in January (or
thereabouts). Personally, I think January is good, since they may be
more visible after the Christmas rush...


Kjetil T.

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:44:48 +0000
From: I am all you need to know! (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Belly


It's a pity those Belly T-shirts were so small....They were quite
tasteful. I imagine I looked quite a hom buying one...I probably
looked even sillier taking it back.

C'mon Tanya-babe you have lad fans as well.

SB

(CMSSBRAN@VAX.LIVJM.AC.UK)

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:48:36 +0000
From: I am all you need to know! (CMSSBRAN@LIVJM.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: ....23....


Hey talking about Slowdive...do youse prefer them Ambient or Shoegazey?

I won't touch Pygmallion....but aparently the new stuff will be quite
folky which sounds good....Dagger is such a good song

SB

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:57:11 +0200
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen (lingebri@SUNSCIPW.CERN.CH)
Subject: Re: Colourbox

Wendy Lyon  writes:

> >   He's right..."Arena" is one of the best songs of the last decade.
> >
> Don't forget "The Moon Is Blue"...one hell of an amazing song...

*waugh* You're throwing me into the depths of Colourbox Deprivation
Syndrome. I forgot to bring their two albums with me. *sniffle*

Does anybody on this list live in the New York area? If I send you a
gun, could you look up the Young brothers and hold them at gun point
while making a new album? I mean, they have been slacking off for,
uhm, eight years, denying the world their talents. Shame on them.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars in Geneva

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:12:19 -0400
From: MCINTYRE@PA.MSU.EDU
Subject: Re: porcupine tree CD???



>I recently heard a very thislisty sounding (ala Dredd
>Cocteaus/FSOL/Souvlaki) song from a band Porcupine Tree.  The radio station
>said that it was from an import (from Engalnd maybe?) called 'Sky Moves
>Sideways'.  I was basically ready to purchase it instantly if I could find
>it, but calls to my local record store were unfruitful.  So, does anyone
>here know anything more about them and where I could get a copy of this
>release?

Essentially a one man band from England.  Very psychedelic. (One EP _Voyage
34_ is an account of an individual's 34th acid trip.   The first 33 had all
been pleasurable, but the 34th voyage... (-8)  I've purchased their CDs

Midnight Vinyl & CDs
PO Box 390
Old Chelsea Station
New York NY 10113-0390
(212) 675-2768

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept
Michigan State University

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:23:47 -0400
From: MCINTYRE@PA.MSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Non-4AD Brain Teaser...


Hah!  You guys are dealing with amatuers.

The undisputed recycling champion has to be Hawkwind.  Fifteen or so
studio albums, twenty compilations, and forty live albums.  Some songs
have been released in a dozen or more different takes.  Not for faint
hearted collectors. (-8

                                         John McIntyre
                                          Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept
                                          Michigan State University

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 07:19:42 -0700
From: shane (shane@trex.org)
Subject: Re: Rare Slowdive FS! (3 Items)


I have this (powder blue) flexi. It's pretty drastic...more My Bloody
Valentine-sounding.  It definately sounds like a demo (kinda hissy),
but it still sounds great too (gee, aren't I eloquent?).  I got mine
for $1.50 from:

Sunday Records; P.O. Box 8335; Rolling Meadows, IL 60008 USA

You might want to e-mail them at  and ask fisrt
though, because their price may have changed or they may be sold out.

______________________
shane | shane@trex.org

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:20:24 -0500
From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: Re: Young Gods-Only Heaven


In <3278D8018F@aurum.chem.wits.ac.za>, Neil G. wrote:
>     Someone mentioned this new album about two weeks ago on the list.
> Having heard rumours about it myself for a while I could not wait to
> lay my hands on it.  I finally did this week.  Although it is good, I
> was a bit disappointed. ...  It is a must for all Young Gods
> fans, but those who have not yet acquired any of their music and want
> to, would be advised to rather spend their money on earlier releases.

Agreed. It's very slightly disappointing, but look at the brilliant albums
we're comparing it to.

Chicago people, I'm doing a Young Gods feature and giveaway night at Club 950
this coming Monday August 7 (and don't miss the concert at Double Door this
Sunday!!). Email for details.
-shill


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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 07:08:52 -0700
From: shane (shane@trex.org)
Subject: Re: Red house painters (again)


I saw the Red House Painters at The Chameleon in 1991 or 92 -- I
remeber it was summer and it was before they released their first
album -- and because I always buy local band stuff, I remember trying
to find something from them, and never finding anything.  Local
college radio stations didn't have anything either 'cause I remeber
calling and asking at leat 4 stations to play something.  My guess is
that their demo was for sending to labels only and as far as I know,
those six songs were the only songs they had recorded at the time,
and they were "cleaned up" a little by Ivo and released as _Down
Colorful Hill_.

I tried to see Tarnation in Palo Alto a couple months ago, but got
there too late and missed them, I tried to find their demo too --
because I KNOW they had one -- but never got one of those either...

Anyway, no one answered my question regarding the name of the
instrumental piece at the end of "Drop" on _Ocean Beach_, I know it
was discussed a few months ago, but I can't access the archives to
find it. Can someone help me out, please? and thank you!

______________________
shane | shane@trex.org

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:11:59 +0100
From: Graham Anderson (g.anderson@RPMS.AC.UK)
Subject: hip huggin' tiny tees......


>okay i can understand everyone's complaints over the "hip tiny concert t's
>for all those babes in hip huggers and plastic barrettes". however, as a 100
>lbs 5'4" girl who usually gets swallowed in the large or x-large sizes that
>concert t-shirts are usually only available in, i just want to say that i
>appreciate being able to buy a shirt that i can actually fit in!! (and no, i
>do not wear hip huggers and plastic barettes)

I must agree with Janice on this one. As an 11 stone bloke, I had to give
away my 4AD t-shirt to my ex-boyf (who then shagged some bastard indie
record company type while wearing it) 'cause it was so voluminous.
Similarly, when I followed the Cocs  around on their last UK tour, I bought
the blue Heaven.... t-shirt in size large at the Liverpool Royal Court, got
it home and found I could rent it out for outdoor events and impromptu open
air music festivals as a marquee, it was so HUGE.

At the T&C gig I bought a medium long sleeve black Cocs... T, and,
surprise, surprise, had to give it to a short female friend to wear as a
dress, because although the size was ok round the chest, it was down to my
knees almost (and at 5'11" that wasn't my fault).
You don't get this problem with New Order merchandise, I can tell you.

Fat male muso nerds look silly anyway, so lets have more t-shirts in
hip-huggin' sizes for the more glamorous, sveldte and generally beautiful
amongst us!

And what the heckitty heck is the matter with plastic barettes? Don't you
know they're all the rage? Dear, oh dear, I think I'm going to have to
troll off to Smith & Westwood for a fabness recharge........


graham x!x!x!

* _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ *

Graham Paul Anderson, grsc                   MRC PET Methodology Group


                          " Apples and pears, apples and pears,
                 Hasn't the Queen Mother got a luvverly smile? "

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:20:19 PDT
From: bchina@crown.net
Subject: Sign Me Up!


Hello 4ad folk:

I understand that this is the address of some sort of 4ad-oriented mailing list?
 Sign me
up (or correct my misunderstanding if I'm wrong).

--bchina@crown.net
  John Majka

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:19:07 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Red House Painters (again)


I got the idea about more demos from the 4ad web page.  It says that=20
=E2y=C67=B99=A2wyN!=DE>XZ=C8.=A2=D4m=C9=DC=B1m=F5q=F0

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:28:57 -0700
From: Aaron Thorne (fearless@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Red house painters (again)


Oops, sorry bout that last message.  A bit of a computer problem.
Anyway, as I was saying, the rhp page says six of the demos that they
sent to Ivo were used for down colorful hill.  Sounded to me like there
were more left unused.  Maybe just wishful thinking.

aaron

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:54:19 -0400
From: Jason Phillips (Eelnosaj@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Red house painters (again)....after "Drop"


I remember someone saying that it was part two or something  to "Brockwell
Park"
I don't know where they found this out.

-Jason

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:49:32 -0400
From: jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU
Subject: Miscellaneous stuff


First, I wanted to make a plug for the new YOUNG GODS album, "Only Heaven."
It came out yesterday and is, of course, totally brilliant.  A bit different
from previous outings....

-- more percussive than anything they've done before;
-- some isolationist ambient influence (e.g., Main, Scorn, etc.);
-- definately better than the relatively weak "T.V. Sky" album.

Check it out!

*******************************

Second, someone mentioned that they were followed by several people after
checking "Foucault's Pendulum" out of the library.  Perhaps it was a joke or
paranoia, but be aware that if it did happen, your rights were violated.
Records of what you check out at the library or rent at a video store are by
law private.

However, that doesn't stop people from violating your privacy.  I personally
know of two cases of right-wing groups trying to obtain information on what
people read and watch (one from a video store in which I worked and one from
a library my mother worked at).  They actually came into the library and
video store and said, "I'd like a record of everyone who checked out these
items...."  If you suspect that someone has gotten access to your library or
video store record, complain immediately.  Sometimes, people don't know that
those records are private and you can protect yourself just by letting them
know.

-- Jeff

Jeffrey T. Gayton
jtgayton@polisci.wisc.edu

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:46:18 -0500
From: Steve Hill (shill@harper.cc.il.us)
Subject: Re: Young Gods


In <25080213453661@ps.polisci.wisc.edu>, jtgayton@POLISCI.WISC.EDU wrote:
> First, I wanted to make a plug for the new YOUNG GODS album, "Only Heaven."
> -- definately better than the relatively weak "T.V. Sky" album.

I disagree here, I thought "TV Sky" was a *very* solid album. "Only Heaven" is
good but it doesn't (yet) seem as well-rounded. I know it'll grow on me,
though. Can't wait for the concert this weekend... the last tour was the last
really good concert I've been to!

(Another plug for Young Gods giveaway night Mon Aug 7 at Club 950 in Chicago)
-shill


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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:04:31 PDT
From: bchina@crown.net
Subject: Pale Saints/Cocteau trades?


Hello everyone:

Would anybody have any Pale Saints (a.k.a. Spoonfed Hybrid) or Cocteau Twins tap
s
that you'd like to trade?  I have a list of about 220 tapes by various bands.  S
nd me an
E if you're interested.

--bchina@crown.net
  John Majka

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:09:14 -0700
From: Noah Slankard (slankard@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Tarnation


Hello all--
        Just wanted to let everyone know that Tarnation also has an album
out called "I'll Give You Something To Cry About" on Nuf Sed Records (I
think...). The band also includes two ex-members of Barbara Manning's
group, SF Seals, and vocalist Paula Frazer used to be in Frightwig, Trial,
and Pleasant Day.
                     noah slankard
                 slankard@primenet.com

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:37:01 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Red house painters (again)

>

On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Aaron Thorne wrote:

> know.  So here it is again.  What the heck happened to the other demos
> that down colorful hill was taken from?  Were they later used on the two
> self titled albums or are there more wonderful songs still unreleased?

It was my impression that those 6 tracks were *all* the demos they recorded.

Mike

                            n9344881@cc.wwu.edu
  "He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over
 life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 23:04:36 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Red house painters (again)....after "Drop"


>I remember someone saying that it was part two or something  to "Brockwell
>Park"
>I don't know where they found this out.


That's right, it's 'Brockwell Park Pt. 2', but that title only appeared on
the Canadian and US press releases. It (the title, not the music) was left
off from the actual tracklist on the 'Ocean Beach' CD, MC and 2x10".


Frank
++++++++++++
brink2@xs4all.nl
++++++++++++

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:33:18 -0700
From: Heffalump (n9344881@HONEYDEW.CC.WWU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Liquorice


>         Well, when I first heard it, horror seared through my veins when I
> realized it sounded a whole heck of alot like Grenadine's "Napolitos" album.
> Although that album was praised by critics and fans, I just couldn't get
> into it.

Nah, it doesn't sound that much like Nopalitos.  Nopalitos has more ...
umm... 'style', Liquorice has more ... "songs".

>         Anyway, after a couple of listens it does start to grow on you.
> Scarce production by Warren Defever, (who also produced one song or the
> whole Napolitos album), giving way to Jenny Toomey's distinct vocal styles.

I wouldn't say 'scarce' either.  More like... subtle.  Always some crazy
stuff running around way, way in the background... and the instrument and
vocal sounds are really good & clean.

>         I wouldn't give it an A+, and recommend bying it used. It isn't that
> bad though.

*I'd* give it an A+, and say buy it right away.

                            n9344881@cc.wwu.edu
  "He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over
 life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:56:52 -0400
From: GrimaceSCU@AOL.COM
Subject: new Aphex Twin single and Belly CD for sale


I haven't had a chance to listen to it except for #3 which is the orchestral
really liked it, though.  It's called Donkey Rhubarb and is of course on Sire
(Warp if you're lucky enough to live outside the states)
Tracklist=
1. Donkey Rhubarb
2. Vaz Deferenz
3. Icct Hedral (phillip glass orchestration)
4. Pancake Lizard

the Belly CD is for King.  It's the Limited Edition PIAS version with two
CDs.
Here's the poop....CAD 5004 CD (170.5004.20 on spine) packaging is the same
except the tray (clear) is for 2 discs.
Disc 1=King (CAD 5004CD on Disc)
Disc 2=Demo versions of _Now They'll Sleep_, _Red_, and _Puberty_ (KING 2 on
Disc)

still bitter about the Aphex Twin / Bjork cancellation in SF...
David
please bid by e-mail.
Sale ends next Wednesday August 9 at Midnight (PST) or so.

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:51:39 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: Pale Saints/Cocteau trades?


What are these, concert tapes?  Rarietes?  Are there
any Cocteau Twins rareites?

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 18:18:55 -0400
From: Drarg (drarg@M21.SAIL.LEON.K12.FL.US)
Subject: Slowdive first EP where?

On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, David Stack wrote:

> Are you sure that he ordered "Blue Day"?  I haven't seen that around in
> ages.  I know that you can still get the Slowdive EP.  But I heard the
> Morningrise and Holding our breath was deleted back in January and
> Blue Day was deleted long before that (not counting the limited edition
> release of Souvalki (2CD) with an attached copy of Blue Day.

Where can you find the Slowdive EP?  It's the only thing left I need to
get by them....is it fairly common where you live?  I have only seen it
in the collections of friends....and they got it ages ago....

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 17:54:02 CDT
From: Janice Headley (ariane181@DALLAS.RELAY.UCM.ORG)
Subject: Pale Saints/Cocteau trades?

              <9508022151.AA07267@faustex.com>

i own everything that was ever commercially released by the cocteaus---sorry,
but that's pretty much it...didn't quite know what you were asking for
there.....

xoxo,
janice ariane
ariane181@dallas.relay.ucm.org

p.s. attention all box set owners: seeing how the box set is out of print and
all, i recently saw a copy of it priced at $200 here in dallas!!! :)
sort-of interesting i thought....

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 18:59:14 CST
From: thad.engeling@CCQM.NATINST.COM
Subject: Re: Seefeel/Scorn

k wrote:

> I've got the CD with Scorn and Seefeel on it and it's great!It's called
> "Ancient lights and the Blackcore".

Could you send me the cat# and label for this CD. I'm going to
have to special order it.
thanks,
my address: thad.engeling@natinst.com

later on,
Thad
"This isn't death, this is just a textural event"

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:35:31 -0700
From: Brant Dewdrops (nelson@EGGNEB.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU)
Subject: latest release schedule


This is the current 4AD release schedule:

22 August -- Tarnation "Gentle Creatures"
22 August -- Lisa Gerrard "The Mirror Pool"
12 September -- Air Miami "Me Me Me"
25 September -- Lush ep (uk only)
2 October -- Scheer ep (uk only) "Schism"
17 October -- Mojave "Ask Me Tomorrow"
16 January -- Scheer lp
16 January -- Heidi Berry lp
February -- Lush lp
February -- Lisa Germano "The Love Circus"
March -- Brendan Perry solo or Dead Can Dance album

On the phone info line an album by Tammy & the Ants (Kim Deal solo)
was listed for 24 October, but Rob didn't mention it when he gave me
the revised schedule. Scheer are apparently the heaviest band by far
4AD has ever signed. "A lot heaver than the Pixies," says Rob.
Brendan Perry has scrapped most or all of his solo album and has not
been doing any recording since. The Mojave album is going to be nothing
like Slowdive (even though it IS Rachel and Neil). It's going to be
more like (gulp!) Mazzy Star, with slide guitar. Tarnation is
country-ish, sorta like Patsy Cline (so says Rob), and I think the
phone recording also mentioned Nick Drake (surprise). The Wolfgang Press
have indeed left 4AD, the split happening amicably on both sides
(I can't confirm the rest of the rumor about them running up a huge tab).
A single featuring 2 Scheer demos was Melody Maker's single of the
week a while ago, and this single is available for 1 pound sent to
Scheer, Freepost LON 485, London, SW18 1BR. The Air Miami album is
produced by Guy Fixsen from Laika. And finally the 4AD Web site
is coming along.

|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 20:46:00 -0500
From: JEHEINDL@AMHERST.EDU
Subject: Re: latest release schedule


Wow.  So any idea what the new Lush ep (uk only, damn!) and lp are like?

jason eugene

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 17:18:08 -0700
From: David Stack (dstack@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Slowdive first EP where?

              from "Drarg" at Aug 2, 95 06:18:55 pm

>
> On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, David Stack wrote:
>
> > Are you sure that he ordered "Blue Day"?  I haven't seen that around in
> > ages.  I know that you can still get the Slowdive EP.  But I heard the
> > Morningrise and Holding our breath was deleted back in January and
> > Blue Day was deleted long before that (not counting the limited edition
> > release of Souvalki (2CD) with an attached copy of Blue Day.
>
> Where can you find the Slowdive EP?  It's the only thing left I need to
> get by them....is it fairly common where you live?  I have only seen it
> in the collections of friends....and they got it ages ago....
>
I don't see the Slowdive EP anywhere except in peoples collections.  Are
you looking for a copy?   The one I have is still for sale.  I'll let
you have it for $15+$1.50 (shipping and Mailer).  Let me if you are
interested in it.  Also do you have the Blue flexi with the songs Take me
down and Beach song on it?  I have that still if you are interested.

I'll talk to you soon.

Dave

PS - I have a slowdive page that has all the covers scanned in.  I'm in
the process of moving the page at the moment, but it should be up and
running in a day or two. I'll give you the address if you are interested.

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 18:51:41 -0700
From: josh@ASU.EDU
Subject: i found a goldmine!


   hello everybody. i just to-day returned from a weeklong vacation in
   chicago and i found a great record store with quite a few 4ad rarities
   for you. i made a list rather than buying and selling them to people
   here as i didn't want to put too much on my credit card; i found a lot
   of stuff for myself there. anyways, here is the list:

   the v23 anatomy calendar - $39.99. it was still in it's original box,
   though the box looked a bit beaten. were these sent through the mail?
   the box looked as if it had been handled by the delicate hands of u.p.s.

   mai pen rai - $24.99. it was the burgundy cover and looked to be in very
   good condition.

   the tmc u.s. cd sampler - $19.99. the one in the digipak.

   lonely is an eyesore cad D 703 - $29.99. the one in the sort of slipcase
   with the booklet.

   a cocteau twins u.s. sampler lp - $33.99. i had never seen this before,
   but it had a very nice cover. i don't remember the tracks, but i'm
   fairly sure it had 'the high monkey monk' and 'dials,' two of the
   "unreleased" tracks in the boxed set.

   -

   i thought the prices seemed reasonable for some of these, especially
   as i've seen 'mai pen rai' selling for $79 before.

   the record store was:

   reckless records of london
   3157 north broadway
   chicago, il.  60657
   phone: 312.404.5080

   and they said they do mail order, so hurry up and call them!


your man on the streets,

j

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 22:52:05 -0400
From: "r. n. dominick" (cinnamon@ONE.NET)
Subject: Re: Pale Saints/Cocteau trades?

              Headley" at Aug 2, 95 05:54:02 pm

> p.s. attention all box set owners: seeing how the box set is out of print and
> all, i recently saw a copy of it priced at $200 here in dallas!!! :)
> sort-of interesting i thought....

There are *three seperate stores* here in Cincinnati with copies of the
CT boxed set, none costing over $45. (In fact, I think Wizard has 2.)
$200 is a complete and total rip. (I paid $70 for mine in the hell that
is Albuquerque, NM. Sigh.)

--

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 23:03:13 -0400
From: Pramboy@AOL.COM
Subject: fine friend ep


I'm just curious if any one else purchased this ep to find not a 4-track pale
saints cd, but a full-length christian rock album on it? (All I know is--- it
can't be the pale saints!)
You can imagine the shock after flying home to the states with it...

Jon

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 23:32:35 -0400
From: DscribeDC@AOL.COM
Subject: Lonely an Eyesore: Still Rare?


Are people still having trouble locating this disc?  I could swear I saw it
recently in the bin at Tower alongside the run-of-the-mill stuff...

Dave G.

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 22:47:59 -0500
From: Shana Skaletsky (isis@VENUS.MCS.COM)
Subject: Re: Pale Saints/Cocteau trades?


On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Janice Headley wrote:

> i own everything that was ever commercially released by the cocteaus---sorry,
> but that's pretty much it...didn't quite know what you were asking for
> there.....
>
> xoxo,
> janice ariane
> ariane181@dallas.relay.ucm.org
>
> p.s. attention all box set owners: seeing how the box set is out of print and
> all, i recently saw a copy of it priced at $200 here in dallas!!! :)
> sort-of interesting i thought....
>
oh my goodness!!!!  that makes me feel pretty spiffy, considering i
got mine new for $50...:)

-shana

Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 14:11:00 EST
From: "Ellens, Harm" (HEllens@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.COM.AU)
Subject: Underground Lovers Live


For all those who live in the Melbourne area and do not listen to 3RRR, the
Underground Lovers resurface this week end (Friday and Saturday) in the
Punters Club, Brunswick Street Fitzroy. Listen to 3RRR: they give away
double passes to see them.

Cheers,

H.

hellens@vcomtelc.telcom.com.au
hellens@kryten.telcom.com.au
hellens@holly.telcom.com.au

Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 00:24:13 -0400
From: EyeRate@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Dallas


>>I do however give you credit for Course of Empire, I think we >>(Chicago)
>>should get them in return for the departing of Ministry.

>>-Ryan


Nah. But you can have ZZ Top.

You Chicagoins sure can't take the heat.

Baron

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