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Subject: Tones on Tail
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Subject: Re: Rare Slowdive FS! (3 Items)
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Subject: Colourbox
Subject: Re: Time Stereo
Subject: Re: Non-4AD Brain Teaser...
Subject: Re: Liquorice
Subject: Liquorice
Subject: Re: Rare Slowdive FS! (3 Items)
Subject: Re: Colourbox
Subject: Re: Time Stereo
Subject: Re: Felt
Subject: Lisa Germano - Happiness
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Subject: 23
Subject: The group Double Happiness, Electric Slumberland,
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:13:49 +1000
Hi,
(I hope this address works.)
Would anyone like to give a review of the recent Liquorice
release. Have I missed it on this list? From the one line
description in a music mag here, it sounds a bit like
heidi berry, but I could be wrong.
Derby
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The entire school of Saussure, including Levi-Strauss, write the muffled
prose of people with cotton wool wrapped around their heads; they're like
walking Q-tips."
Camille Paglia, _Junk Bonds and Corporate Raiders_
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 02:04:53 -0700
Jen wrote:
> Both omit "Slender Fungus", through some gruesome lack of taste and sense.
No...the domestic "Tones on Tail" compilation that Beggars issued in 1990
has "Slender Fungus", as well as "Performance." "Night Music" has neither.
-julian-
--
Julian Stewart
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 14:26:50 +0000
I just saw Belly support REM at Huddersfield and they were
marvellous...however the only T-shirt size available was age 9-10
SB
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 09:15:36 -0500
O.K...a serious question. What is the significance of the number 23?
V23 uses it, 23 Envelope, Sky Cries Mary mentions it in songs, I've heard of
connections to the Illuminati...what's going on? My friends think I'm crazy...
Aaron
The new Rhino Records catalog arrived this morning...issue 23.
23 is 1/3 of 69, but that's a stretch...
?
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 10:00:59 -0500
As if by chance, I recently heard the song "Primative Painters"
(w/Ms. Frazier) for the first time, and it sounded like someone was
playing with the pitch knob on the record player throughout the entire
song. Is it supposed to sound like that, or did I just have a warped
record?
jason
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:06:26 -0400
don't forget 23 Skidoo..
kd.
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:28:17 -0500
>O.K...a serious question. What is the significance of the number 23?
>
Don't you get it? 7, 13, 23. They're all prime numbers. Ahhhhhhh!!!!!
Suddenly struck with horrid understanding,
Eric E. Wittmershaus
[email protected]
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:02:42 -0500
> I recently bought the MAD 315 Colourbox CD. The only songs I really liked
> off of it were tracks one through three. The woman singing on the rest of
> the CD annoyed me greatly.
Arrrgh!! Say it ain't so. Lorita Grahame is a goddess! Give it another
spin and if you still hate her, I'm going to cry. How can you *not* like
her voice? If anyone's got an annoying voice, its Mimi Goese.
I'm not sure about the catalog numbers, but if this is the one with the two
horses fucking on the cover, you need to listen to "Baby I love you so.",
"Breakdown" and "Justice" a few more times.
If this is the one with Vaughn Oliver's famous "orange circles", then how
can you not be totally in love with "Arena" and "The Moon is Blue"? "Arena"
was my favorite song for over a decade...what is the world coming to?
"I could have learned a million little things..."
marvynHortman
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:20:56 -0500
>Hello,
> I guess since Slowdive is now on 4AD I guess I can post this
>forsale stuff here. I guess alot of people who like 4AD stuff also LIke
>Creation stuff too. Does anyone know if there is a Creation list like there
>is a 4AD list? Just curious.
>
>
>Slowdive EP (Crescd 093)
> Slowdive
> Avalyn I
> Avalyn II
>
>Blue Day (cre cdx101 Very Rare & Way out of print!)
> Slowdive
> Avalyn I
> Morningrise
> She Calls
> Losing Today
> Shine
> Albatross
>
>Slowdive Blue Flexi (Early Demos, Only 500 made!)
> Beach Song
> Take Me Down
>
>Please make a bid on the above items. I know the bids on the Blue Day
>is going to get pretty high so I guess I will start bids on that at $20.
>
>I'll talk to you soon.
>
>Dave
>
>PS - I also have The Pale Saint's Out of print Flesh Balloon CD single
> for sale if anyone is interested.
Out of print? A friend of mine just ordered it from 4AD less than a month ago.
Eric E. Wittmershaus
[email protected]
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 10:28:50 -0600
1, 95 09:15:36 am
(minimal thislisty content - you were warned)
a distraught Aaron asked...
> O.K...a serious question. What is the significance of the number
> 23? V23 uses it, 23 Envelope, Sky Cries Mary mentions it in songs,
> I've heard of connections to the Illuminati...what's going on? My
> friends think I'm crazy...
this is very serious indeed and your friends are actually quadruple
agents working for *the* conspiracy...they just don't know it. the
fnords made them do it.
in the illuminatus trilogy (r. a. wilson and r. shae), it is explained
that any number which can be used to achieve 5 is a sign of the
conspiracy. this is the law of fives. 23 is one of the most notable
ones, and 2+3=5. 8 also works since 2^3=8 and 2+3=5. you get the
picture. the masonic pyramid on the back of the us one dollar bill has,
if i remember properly, either 23 bricks in total or 23 along the
base. something like that. i'm currently lacking a one in my wallet,
so i can't check.
and who can forget network 23 from max headroom. and 23 skidoo. and
and and...
> The new Rhino Records catalog arrived this morning...issue 23.
> 23 is 1/3 of 69, but that's a stretch...
hmmmmm. yet another interesting theory. i wonder if the math works.
6*9=54. 5+4=9. 9=3^2. 2+3=5. yet another example of the law of
fives.
hail eris. all praise discordia. - drew...all errors intentional...
(btw - for more on the law of fives, check out alt.discordia)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 13:26:21 CST
(minimal thislisty content - you were warned)
a distraught Aaron asked...
> I've heard of connections to the Illuminati...what's going on?
for more on the Illuminati, read Umberto Eco, "Foucault's Pendulum"--
it's full of that kinda stuff. however, beware!! when I checked it out
of the library, someone tracked me down and I swear five different
people followed me around campus that week. For all you
lit.crit.theory people, the Foucault in the title is a dead
mathematician, not the dead postmodernist.
>btw - for more on the law of fives, check out alt.discordia)
thanks
nate
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:06:17 -0700
23 is considered a lucky or powerful number in magick. remember 23 skidoo?
noah slankard
[email protected]
On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, YOUNG GRASSHOPPER wrote:
> O.K...a serious question. What is the significance of the number 23?
>
> V23 uses it, 23 Envelope, Sky Cries Mary mentions it in songs, I've heard of
> connections to the Illuminati...what's going on? My friends think I'm crazy..
>
> Aaron
>
> The new Rhino Records catalog arrived this morning...issue 23.
>
> 23 is 1/3 of 69, but that's a stretch...
>
> ?
>
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:45:58 -0700
Aug 1, 95 11:20:56 am
Are you sure that he ordered "Blue Day"? I haven't seen that around in
ages. I know that you can still get the Slowdive EP. But I heard the
Morningrise and Holding our breath was deleted back in January and
Blue Day was deleted long before that (not counting the limited edition
release of Souvalki (2CD) with an attached copy of Blue Day.
How did your friend order the CD? Did he call up creation or
something? I would be interested in talking to them if he did that.
Maybe you could give me your friends address and I can talk to him on how
he did it.
Thanks for the info if you have any.
Dave
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:49:30 -0400
He's right..."Arena" is one of the best songs of the last decade.
TIM CONLON
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 13:03:56 -0700
>Could one of you guys give me the address for Time Stereo? I seem to
have
>misplaced it.
The Record Collector
28143 W. Eight Mile Rd.
Livonia, Michigan 48152
1+810 473-8350 ask for Davin
_DON'T_ get it from anyone else. You'll just get ripped off.
______________________
shane | [email protected]
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:57:57 -0700
On Mon, 31 Jul 1995, Jens Alfke wrote:
>
> There were at least six 12"s/EPs:
> * Lions
> * Christian Says / Twist
well, these two were only two songs each... that counts as only one ep
in itself. B-P
>
> Both omit "Slender Fungus", through some gruesome
> lack of taste and sense. Oh, and one has a naked babe on the cover.
>
Not true...Slender Fungus is on the Tones on Tail cd... and the naked
chick is on Night Music.
Ivo
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[email protected]
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 13:10:30 -0700
>Hi,
>
>(I hope this address works.)
>
>Would anyone like to give a review of the recent Liquorice
>release. Have I missed it on this list? From the one line
>description in a music mag here, it sounds a bit like
>heidi berry, but I could be wrong.
>
>
>Derby
Well, when I first heard it, horror seared through my veins when I
realized it sounded a whole heck of alot like Grenadine's "Napolitos" album.
Although that album was praised by critics and fans, I just couldn't get
into it.
Anyway, after a couple of listens it does start to grow on you.
Scarce production by Warren Defever, (who also produced one song or the
whole Napolitos album), giving way to Jenny Toomey's distinct vocal styles.
I wouldn't give it an A+, and recommend bying it used. It isn't that
bad though.
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 14:42:11 CDT
<9508010714.AA23182@sydrd15>
oh, gosh..i couldn't pass this one up seeing how i have been living to that
disc lately.....
the liquorice disc is very melancholy and delicate and lovely, particularly
on tracks like "keep the weekend free" and "jill of all trades". "jill" is an
elegant, emotional acoustic piano track with jenny's passionate voice just
breaking and it absolutely floors me everytime....a lot of people have made a
point of staying away from this album because they loathe tsunami, but the
only similarity is jenny's distinctive vocals....warren defever (of his name
is alive fame) did some really bizarre-o work on this album, but it really
clicks....i would have to say that "blew it" is probably the most upbeat song
on the album.....
i hope that helped a bit at all...anyone who begs to differ may reach me at
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:54:41 -0500
On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, David Stack wrote:
> Are you sure that he ordered "Blue Day"? I haven't seen that around in
> ages. I know that you can still get the Slowdive EP. But I heard the
> Morningrise and Holding our breath was deleted back in January and
> Blue Day was deleted long before that (not counting the limited edition
> release of Souvalki (2CD) with an attached copy of Blue Day.
I believe the japanese Blue Day cd is still available, but it's almost
certain to be more expensive than the british version.
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:25:38 -0400
On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, TIM CONLON wrote:
> He's right..."Arena" is one of the best songs of the last decade.
>
Don't forget "The Moon Is Blue"...one hell of an amazing song...
-----
wendy
SUICIDE BOMBER RENEWS ATTACKS
-- Jewish World headline, July 27, 1995
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 14:30:12 -0700
> The Record Collector
> 28143 W. Eight Mile Rd.
> Livonia, Michigan 48152
>
> 1+810 473-8350 ask for Davin
>
> _DON'T_ get it from anyone else. You'll just get ripped off.
now what's that supposed to mean?
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:03:05 -0400
On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Jason Hull wrote:
> As if by chance, I recently heard the song "Primative Painters"
> (w/Ms. Frazier) for the first time, and it sounded like someone was
> playing with the pitch knob on the record player throughout the entire
> song. Is it supposed to sound like that, or did I just have a warped
> record?
>
It does have kind of a weird sound, but if it's that noticeable
on yours it probably is just your record...
-----
wendy
SUICIDE BOMBER RENEWS ATTACKS
-- Jewish World headline, July 27, 1995
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:32:19 EDT
just checked it out - both the 4AD mix and the the Capital release. of
course, i am totally unbiased, but i do think the ivo'd version is so
much better... the beautiful intro to "bad attitude" alone makes it
the choice of smart shoppers the world over. and much better mixed
percussion... and believe me, i can live without the cover of "boots".
so, i'm surprised no one has commented on the similarity between the
the ivo'd intro to "bad attitude" and one of those instrumental segues
(can't remember the title) on the Muses "University".... i was going to
blame it on Trina Shoemaker at Kingsway studio til i realized it was
added on the 4AD remix of "Happiness" - must just be that 4AD karma.
biked by dreamland the other day - spotted no deals
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 14:43:37 -0700
You wrote:
>
>I just saw Belly support REM at Huddersfield and they were
>marvellous...however the only T-shirt size available was age 9-10
>SB
that would be the new hip tiny shirt concert t for all those chicky
babes in hip huggers and plastic barrettes. quite a fad here in
minneapolis, kinda boring. i mean you might as well just kill yourself
in once puberty starts if all you want to do is look like a little girl
all your life...okay a bit harsh but this "style" really irritates me.
nuff said.
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 16:55:50 -0400
>If anyone's got an annoying voice, its Mimi Goese.
Awwwwwwright, Hortman, them's fightin' words! Put 'em up! Put 'em dem
dukes! Harrumph!
[wanting to get the first jab in before the rest of the Hugo Largo Memorial
Brigade comes charging in...]
Minimally yrs,
h.
PS. My nominee for most annoying voice - Jennifer Jason Leigh in 'Mrs.
Parker and the Vicious Circle' (I like the movie; her voice made me wanna
take up cigarettes and whiskey) - makes whoever plays Catherine Janeway in
'Star Trek Voyeur' seem slicker than PTFE. Musicwise - the screwy bat in the
hat who sings in 4 Non-Blondes. Shiver.
PPS. As mentioned earlier on this list:
v23 = vaughn two three [hup!]
--
"And I stood in line and ate my Twinkies." -- Galaxie 500
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 16:11:11 -0500
On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, eric wrote:
> >O.K...a serious question. What is the significance of the number 23?
> >
> Don't you get it? 7, 13, 23. They're all prime numbers. Ahhhhhhh!!!!!
>
> Suddenly struck with horrid understanding,
>
> Eric E. Wittmershaus
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
>
hmm...i'm not sure if any of these bands had this in mind, but 23 is a
sacred number in the Discordian religion (where they worship Eris,
Greek goddess of chaos) due to the fact that 2+3=5, and this corresponds
to the Discordian Law of Fives. if you don't understand what i just said,
either a. don't worry about it, it's not that important, or b. read
Principia Discordia...
-shana
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:43:10 CDT
<[email protected]>
okay i can understand everyone's complaints over the "hip tiny concert t's
for all those babes in hip huggers and plastic barrettes". however, as a 100
lbs 5'4" girl who usually gets swallowed in the large or x-large sizes that
concert t-shirts are usually only available in, i just want to say that i
appreciate being able to buy a shirt that i can actually fit in!! (and no, i
do not wear hip huggers and plastic barettes)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:02:03 -0500
>> > Talking about the Tour De France, I turned on the TV this morning
>> to watch > the live coverage of the Pyrenees main stage, and saw the
>> Italian Casartelli > crash at 70 mph and die in his own blood!
>>
>> Which prompted the BBC's breakfast news to pose the question "is
>> cycling safe?". Since the last death in the tour was a British rider
>> who died of heat exhaustion nearly thirty years ago, the answer seems
>> to be "yes", but that isn't much of a news story.
>
>Nope. Sorry. Too bad. Life's tough.
>
>Any dumb-ass who refuses to wear a helmet in this day and age of cycling gets
>exactly what they deserve. The riders of the tour-de-france rebelled several
>years ago when the bicycling commision attempted to make helmets mandatory for
>the tour, so now its voluntary to wear one.
>
>Individual choice is a wonderful thing, and since Mr. Casartelli decided to opt
>for comfort over his life, I have NO, nada, "0" sympathy. I have destroyed 2
>helmets mountain biking, and I can't imagine riding without one. I would
>certainly not go 70 mph down a hill with 300 other bicyclists on concrete
>(sometimes even cobblestones!) on bike tires with over 200 psi in them, and say
>"Nah, it's too warm today..I don't need a helmet, it itches." Bicycle helmets
>are so light and comfortable these days that you can hardly tell you're wearing
>them.
While I agree with you that is was a bad decision for Casartelli not to
wear his helmet, it apparently would not have helped. The impact was so
massively concentrated in the frontal lobe that a helmet, in its
splintering, would have only helped him to die faster (read instantly).
Chad Burkey Andersen Consulting
[email protected] Center for Strategic Technology Research
I speak only for myself
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 20:28:03 -0400
On Mon, 31 Jul 1995, David Stack wrote:
> Hello,
> I guess since Slowdive is now on 4AD I guess I can post this
> forsale stuff here. I guess alot of people who like 4AD stuff also LIke
> Creation stuff too. Does anyone know if there is a Creation list like there
> is a 4AD list? Just curious.
>
> FORSALE:
>
> Slowdive EP (Crescd 093)
> Slowdive
> Avalyn I
> Avalyn II
I'll bid $10 for this.
> Blue Day (cre cdx101 Very Rare & Way out of print!)
> Slowdive
> Avalyn I
> Morningrise
> She Calls
> Losing Today
> Shine
> Albatross
$30...
thanks,
--jason
DJ Guile is Jason Milletary | "People laugh at anything
[email protected] | And things just fall apart"
[email protected] | -- Belly
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 18:35:17 -0700
Well, this thread has certainly exposed the roots of 23.
In a radio interview he did during AVAM, Vaughn said that the 23 envelope, v23
thing had no connection to the rest of the mumbo jumbo, just that it was a
number that he noticed more often than other numbers, e.g. a clock would say
-n
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 20:29:30 -0500
>Are you sure that he ordered "Blue Day"? I haven't seen that around in
Actually, she ordered Pale Saints' "Flesh Balloon." I knew I should have
deleted the rest of the message. Sorry for the confusion.
eric
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 21:03:59 -0500
>> I recently bought the MAD 315 Colourbox CD. The only songs I really liked
>> off of it were tracks one through three. The woman singing on the rest of
>> the CD annoyed me greatly.
>
>Arrrgh!! Say it ain't so. Lorita Grahame is a goddess! Give it another
>spin and if you still hate her, I'm going to cry. How can you *not* like
>her voice? If anyone's got an annoying voice, its Mimi Goese.
>
>I'm not sure about the catalog numbers, but if this is the one with the two
>horses fucking on the cover, you need to listen to "Baby I love you so.",
>"Breakdown" and "Justice" a few more times.
>
I like "Baby I Love You So" just fine, but I didn't like the singing on
Breakdown or Justice (even if it is the same person). Maybe it's because
these songs have less cool samples than "Baby. . ."
Bye.
Eric E. Wittmershaus
[email protected]
[email protected]