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Subject: Another Quick question......
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 01:16:12 -0400
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: rachel's handwriting on cd
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 00:44:12 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@gxl.woodtech.com)
Subject: subscribe
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 01:15:41 -0700
From: Brandon Capps (bcapps@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Re: the great 4AD tape swap?????
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 23:40:26 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: tape copies
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 11:22:27 +0100
From: Christopher Michael Adams (sguadach@READING.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Another Quick question......
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 06:59:02 -0400
From: Sleep Your Box (Bairmiami@AOL.COM)
Subject: Breeders
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 12:11:42 +0100
From: Christopher Michael Adams (sguadach@READING.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Breeders
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 07:15:50 -0400
From: Sleep Your Box (Bairmiami@AOL.COM)
Subject: Breeders
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 12:42:13 +0100
From: Christopher Michael Adams (sguadach@READING.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Belly on NPR tomorrow morning!
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 07:50:19 -0400
From: "Rufus T. Firefly" (mwelker@falcon.bgsu.edu)
Subject: A quarter stick of tarnation, half cup of sugar...
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 10:03:05 -0400
From: Hk Kahng (Initialboy@AOL.COM)
Subject: Esp Summer + Live in Mexico tracklistings ?
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:19:37 +0200
From: Manu Feig (feig_m@VPTT.CH)
Subject: Re: Breeders
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 11:26:04 -0400
From: Philip Locke (PLBear@AOL.COM)
Subject: belly "spaceman"
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:39:38 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: Re: tones on tail bad 203
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:40:20 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: Re: belly (was re: pixies)
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 14:39:59 MET
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@PIAS.XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Breeders
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 14:16:47 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Breeders
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:25:08 -0600
From: william shatner (ckeck@UNM.EDU)
Subject: Re: the great 4AD tape swap
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:35:23 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Breeders
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:19:56 -0400
From: Jon H Wichmann (jhwst9+@PITT.EDU)
Subject: Cud (i.e. Digest sub-er)
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:13:42 -0800
From: "Heileson, Thom" (heilts1@MACGWX.GHC.ORG)
Subject: Re: the great 4AD tape swap?????
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:53:13 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Love Spirals Downwards shows
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:50:27 -0400
From: Darkwave3@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Liz and abuse...again
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 21:05:41 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Tom Jones and TWP
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 21:27:22 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: TWP "live"
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 03:54:50 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: Re: Breeders
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:40:27 -0700
From: Andre the Giant (brettg@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: polite note
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 22:27:18 +0200
From: Brett

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 01:16:12 -0400
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Another Quick question......


End of Lilliput disc two-
Marching band doing a Pale Saints song-

which one?

"15 years as a majorette, and where did it get you?"

Jason

srilank@aol.com

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 00:44:12 -0500
From: Jeremy L Orr (jeremy@gxl.woodtech.com)
Subject: Re: rachel's handwriting on cd


---from lisaRoo:

> does anyone know ANYTHING about Quarterstick records, which released
> it?

They're distributed by Touch & Go, and all 1/4Stick product can be had
through T&G's mailorder, which is supposedly pretty reliable.  According
to their ad in the new Option (yes, that again), they can be reached at
PO Box 25520-P, Chicago IL 60625.  Visa/MasterCard orders can be placed
by calling (800) 3-TOUCH-U (how clever).  It says that the Rachel's
_Handwriting_ CD is $12, LP is $10, presumably postpaid in the US.

---Jeremy  Five hours later, still haven't been
                                    home, still haven't eaten.


Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 01:15:41 -0700
From: Brandon Capps (bcapps@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: subscribe


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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 23:40:26 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: the great 4AD tape swap?????


I am pretty sure it is illegal in the US as well.  However, the
industry hardly cares because they charge a 'tax' on top of tapes to
account for this and there is no money in sueing most casual tape
makers; the interest level is proportional to the amount of money
companmies can get by sueing.  Mostly, it is a form of free
advertising.  Kind of a do-it-yourself free sampler tapes.

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 11:22:27 +0100
From: Christopher Michael Adams (sguadach@READING.AC.UK)
Subject: tape copies


        Well here in the UK, it was suggested a year or so back that the
music companies were pressing for a tax on blank tapes to reduce 'illegal'
copies.
Chris


Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 06:59:02 -0400
From: Sleep Your Box (Bairmiami@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Another Quick question......


End of Lilliput, disc 2:

A Thousand Stars Burst Open

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 12:11:42 +0100
From: Christopher Michael Adams (sguadach@READING.AC.UK)
Subject: Breeders


        Looking back at last month's Select Magazine I noticed a small
titchy paragraph referring to the Breeders releasing a rushed new album in
June which noone else had heard at the time. I haven't heard anything
since...any news?
Chris

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 07:15:50 -0400
From: Sleep Your Box (Bairmiami@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Breeders


Yes, what's the word on "Pacer?"  I heard it was postponed indefinitely,
otherwise it would've been out later this month.

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 12:42:13 +0100
From: Christopher Michael Adams (sguadach@READING.AC.UK)
Subject: Breeders


has it been postponed because of the court case?


Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 07:50:19 -0400
From: "Rufus T. Firefly" (mwelker@falcon.bgsu.edu)
Subject: Re: Belly on NPR tomorrow morning!

              <4AD-L%JHUVM.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>

On Tue, 30 May 1995, Reality's email account wrote:

> May) morning.  Does anybody know who the 4AD freak at NPR is?  They
> seem to profile and review 4AD artists more than one might normally
> suspect.  Whoever this person is, I think s/he is a Throwing Muses
> fan since in the past I've heard items on TM and Kristin Hersh.

A year or so ago (circa "INto the Labrynith"), NPR also did a feature of
DCD, that I was nicely done from what I heard of it. I don't suppose
anybody would have a copy of this broadcast about?

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Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 10:03:05 -0400
From: Hk Kahng (Initialboy@AOL.COM)
Subject: A quarter stick of tarnation, half cup of sugar...


>does anyone know ANYTHING about Quarterstick records, which released
>it?

>From what I recall, methinks Quarterstick is predominantly a guitar-based
punk label, but that perception is based entirely on bands like Pegboy,
Rodan, and Arcwelder.  They're tied into the whole Touch&Go "family" of
labels (famous for all those Big Black, Shellac, Rapeman, Killdozer, Butthole
Surfers, and Didjits records; they also presently distribute Merge and a few
other labels).  Not at all twee and ethereal, but neither is Al Sharpton.

Tarnation?  I dunno, wasn't Palace Brothers enough?....

Cheers,


mr. heatmiser

PS.  Buy the new Dart single, you ingrates!

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:19:37 +0200
From: Manu Feig (feig_m@VPTT.CH)
Subject: Esp Summer + Live in Mexico tracklistings ?


Well, as the title says it, i've got these tapes from _Time Stereo_ through
a friend, but have not any correct tracklisting (the one given away with
HNIA's _Live in Mexico_ seems to be a bit wrong).

If anybody out of there could help me, thanx !

Manu (the Corback)

    occuper tout seul comme un grand !!!

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Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 11:26:04 -0400
From: Philip Locke (PLBear@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Breeders


I heard that PACER was shelved because Kim wasn't happy with it (I think I
heard that on this list).

Also, driving through Ohio last week I heard a news story about Kelley.
 Contrary to earlier reports I'd heard, the case against her was not dropped.
 Her lawyers are currently trying to work out a deal (no pun intended) for
her to go into rehab, rather than going to jail.

LAST SPLASH seemed like such a promising sign for the band.  I hope they
don't end up falling apart now.

--phil
(plbear@aol.com)

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:39:38 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: belly "spaceman"


>also, did anybody download belly's 'spaceman' whilst it was available? i
>tried but it was 5M and was not exactly fast (in fact i worked out that
>at the rate it was downloading it would have taken 8 hours). if so, can
>you make it available on an ftp site somewhere. (it was mpeg format
>wasn't it?). there were two smaller versions too, either of these would
>do.
>--
>(A.Dean@uk22p.bull.co.uk)
>commonplace, everyday...

Hi Andrew,

there is no need to load down "Spaceman" via ftp anymore. It has been
released on the new Belly "Super-Connected" BAD 5003 CDK in Germany and
Holland, Belgium, Lux. But be fast to get a copy...

Here is the tracklist again:

Super-Connected
Spaceman
Diamond Rib Cage
Think about your troubles


Regards,

Matthias.
"Accident in puncto, quod non speratur in anno."


Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:40:20 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: Re: tones on tail bad 203


>quick question:  what would be the name of that tones on tail single
>that is worth lots of money?
>
>"teach me to be happy, teach me control..."
>
>jen

Hi Jen,

here is some information on the tones on tail thing:


A bigger Splash
Means of Escape
Copper
Intrumental

>> So you might know some stuff about my following record:
>>
>> I have two versions of Tones on Tail "A bigger splash".
>>
>> -4AD original BAD 203
>> -CNR Weesp 151076.....Made in Holland
>>
>> Have you heard of this label before ?
>
>Yes I have.
>
>> Does it still exist ?
>
>I'm not really sure they still exist. I think they're part of a major now.
>
>> Did they have a licensee-agreement with 4AD?
>
>Years before PIAS got the 4AD-deal, the licensee-agreements were done
>for each release seperately. It sure is possible CNR did TNT.
>
>> Is it rare?
>
>Tones on Tails has never been a major band. I presume such a release is
>done 1000 - 2000 pieces. Is this rare enough?
>Is the CNR an exact copy of the 4AD-edition (tracklisting and artwork)?
>If not this might be interesting for some.

The tracklisting and artwork is the same, btw.

When you come across a copy here (in Germany) it is mostly the Holland
version and it costs around DM 30-50 (USD 20 - 35).

Cheap you might think, but first you have to come across a copy !

Hope this helps,

Matthias.

"Accident in puncto, quod non speratur in anno."

Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 14:39:59 MET
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@PIAS.XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: belly (was re: pixies)


Andrew Dean  writes:

> hmc4@UNIX.YORK.AC.UK wrote:
> > Also, Belly were live on the radio this weekend. Still can't find
> > the new single in the UK though.
> i've asked at the local shop about a new belly single and was told that
> there was nothing on their order forms (which list things up to and
> including the second week of june) so we'll all just have to wait. i'll
> keep asking.

Correct. The released Super-Connected CDsingle was Europe (and USA) only.
There will be a neat CDsingle within a few weeks available (in 2 or
3 editions) in the UK only.

Cheerio,

Huite Rietveld
Play It Again Sam


Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 14:16:47 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Breeders


On Wed, 31 May 1995, Christopher Michael Adams wrote:

>         Looking back at last month's Select Magazine I noticed a small
> titchy paragraph referring to the Breeders releasing a rushed new album in
> June which noone else had heard at the time. I haven't heard anything
> since...any news?
> Chris
>

I think I posted a while back that my friend at 4AD told me that this
album had been made, but the band decided to scrap it and it will not be
released.  Until then, I've heard, Kim Deal is working on some kind of
solo project.

Ivo

"perhaps it's just the chocolate singing, broken winded, whistling..."

                                                         beswick@scf.usc.edu

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:25:08 -0600
From: william shatner (ckeck@UNM.EDU)
Subject: Re: Breeders


yeah, i also heard they scraped it because they didn't like the way it
sounded.  i personaly would rather them do that than put something out
that sounds like shit.  i also heard at one point from a friend of my
that kim deal was going to do a solo project under the name tammy and the
amps has any one else heard about that?
eric
ckeck@unm.edu


Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:35:23 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Re: the great 4AD tape swap


>
> > > According to US law, it is NOT illegal to make such tapes, as long as you 
o
> > > not intend to sell them for profit.
>
> > Actually, I think it is illegal.  Talk like this has been going on at the
> > various anime groups for quite a while... even copying & giving it to
> > your friends is illegal....  I'm not an expert; this is just what I've
> > been told.
>
> OK!!!!!
> i asked my dad, and he's a lawyer and has a music degree from berkley, and
> he said that it is NOT illegal to make such tapes, as long as you do not
> sell them for profit....
>
My dad says the same thing (he's a cop).  I remember asking him this
quite a while ago when we got our second VCR (which is now broken
and outdated) and he was dubbing movies.

Holly

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:19:56 -0400
From: Jon H Wichmann (jhwst9+@PITT.EDU)
Subject: Re: Breeders


 ok...
  here goes my brief, shabby attempt to sum up the breeders
  article in spin..
  the article seems to break into 2 parts..
  the 1st part has info like:
  the news breeders albumwas actually a
  kim deal solo album called pacer
  it seems that only kim deal is signed to 4ad/sire
  not the breeders..
  anyhow the breeders are not broken up
  at least they weren't during this part of the article
  (nice forshadowing, huh)
  they also talked how kelly's trial was to be in july
  and that they had some kind of family confrontation thing
  to get kelly of the drugs..
  also while i am at it...it also told how
  josephine has moved to the us to be near her girl friend,
  the drummer of lucious jackson..
  then the article took a dramatic change..
  it seems sometime later kelly started using the heroine again..
  and kim became worried..
  so kim dropped the solo album and is now
  concerned with kelly and very little else..
 the article ended with kelly going to minnesota
  with her dad
  and had the breeders and GBV watching the premiere
  of the new GBV video on the mtv
 with the author saying how they wished kelly could be with them

 oh yeah...in the 1st part it also told how kim is engaged to some one in GBV

  well that my summary..hope it wasn't
  too bad...



  by all means correct anything i've confused or left out..


  j0n

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:13:42 -0800
From: "Heileson, Thom" (heilts1@MACGWX.GHC.ORG)
Subject: Cud (i.e. Digest sub-er)


First off, my apologies for the length of this post... better than me posting
once for each item of interest, oui?

The following may be of interest to any Seattleites -- all bands are supposed
to be DCDesque.

-------

Ivy Records presents a very special show...

Friday, June 9th at the Crocodile Cafe:

Projekt Records...LOVE SPIRALS DOWNWARDS
Ivy Records...  FAITH & DISEASE
Tess Records...TRANCE TO THE SUN

Show starts at 9:30, admission is $7.

This show, presented by Ivy Records, will showcase three exceptional
female
vocalists;
  *Suzanne Perry from the acclaimed Love Spirals Downwards, a Los
Angeles
based Projekt Records act with two highly touted releases to date
(1993's "Idylls" and the recently released "Ardor");
*Dara Rosenwasser from Seattle's Faith & Disease, garnishing some
lofty praise of late with her ethereal, operatic vocals on their
second full-length CD on Ivy Records, "Fortune His Sleep;"
*Zoe Wakefield from Trance To The Sun, celebrating their second CD
("Bloom Flowers, Bloom") on Santa Barbara based Tess Records.
Decribed by this months Option Magazine as "ambient, trance-spaces:
shifting, cloud-like patterns of electronic sounds and techno rhythm
tracks," this will be TTS's first-ever Seattle show.

For complete press-packets and guest passes to this show, please
contact Ivy
Records via e-mail or telephone (206.726.4188)

Thanks for your time,
Eric

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>
>Twelve minutes of surreal lyrics, startling music, and after four
>or five listens I still haven't worked out what the first three songs
>are about, which can only be a good thing.  Rock's not dead.  Can we
>have an album from them now, please?

This sounds like Fall meets Pogues. Is this Mark Smith's new project? (or is
he cameo)

-------

>
>Recommended if you are into Slowdive/Flying saucer
>Attack/Labradford, but, unfortunately, I was disappointed with the
production.
>Cascone (the album is on his Silent label) made it sound too "mushroom",
>levelling it with the host of other projects in the field, IMHO, of course.

What do you mean "mushroom"? Muddy? Not crisp enough?

Someone has told me Labradford is like My Bloody Valentine; I almost bought
it on this advice (but Laika and other CDs were calling my name that day)...
Do those experienced agree? What about FSA -- MBVesque?

-------

>Anyone interested in finding out more on Jean Cocteau?  How about if I told
you
>that may have been a guardian of the Holy Grail?  (Not the Monty Python
>movie).
>
>So, in essence, we now have a GWAR --> Cocteau--> Holy Grail connection!
>
>Where will it all end?
>Phineas

Full circle. GWAR --> Cocteau --> Holy Grail --> Monty Python --> GWAR.

-------

>
>hello once again -
>
>I am interested in this quirky band, medicine.
>Would somebody volunteer to tape them for me?
>thanks bits and kibbles,

Well, we've discussed the legalities... It seems ettiquette - correct or
something to make compilations rather than to tape albums. This really works
to the bands' benefit. But apparently, in the US, it is legal to
non-profit-ly dub albums; so lisaRoo, email me personally if you haven't
found a "pharmacist" for your Medicine & we'll work out details... (me am
curious if you've something I haven't)

My concern is not whether recipients will "like" their tapes, but whether the
tapes' contents will be new to them. It is a great idea if we each don't
receive tapes with stuff we already have. I guess we can coordinate this with
our "tape beddies" so what am I worried about...

-------

>p.s while i wait, i'm just going to listen to stereolab's "music for the
>amorphous body study center", the boo radleys' "wake up!", and slowdive's
>"pygmalion"...and don't forget oasis's "some might say ep" (it's pretty
>good!)

For example (of stuff I haven't): this Stereolab recording. Is it brand new?
Describe SVP...

-------

>uno. Medicine
>brainchild of one Brad Laner (milkalive@aol.com, or so i was told last),
>one-time drummer of Savage Republic.  lineup features Beth Thompson who was
>at one time the bass player in Fourwaycross, and if memory serves, their
>first album had the drummer from the Flying Burrito Brothers.

So this is a different drummer than the present one (who used to be in noise
band Whitehouse, BTW)?

>two albums
>_Shot Forth Self Living_ and _The Buried Life_; owned both at one time, kept
>the former, sold the latter (one blew me away, the other bored me; take a
>guess which was which).

Both are keepers in my book, although I prefer SFSL. "Queen of Tension" is
one of the most gorgeous, climactic pieces I've heard. Whereas TBL contains
that one twangy country-fried ditty... (Belly fans, you might enjoy this...)

>totally bombastic noisepop, sorta like Hanatarash
>meets Brian Wilson.

Great description, I think (who is Hanatarash? sounds familiar). Brad Laner
has talked about his obsession with Brian Wilson in an interview.

>when they hit a melodic groove, it sticks like krazy
>glue.  bonds flesh instantly.  perhaps best known for the Guthrie-diverted
>mix of "Time Baby III" featured in the soundtrack of 'The Crow'; irony is
>that almost nothing in their whole discography sounds as... Cocteaus-esque
as
>"Time Baby III."  personally i prefer "Time Baby II" which is pretty
>unapologetically noisy, but that's just my prudish purism speaking....

Actually, there's _one_ song by Medicine which I dislike more than the
country-fried one I mentioned. This one -- at least the mix I heard on their
recent EP. Y'all know Liz F. sings backup on this, right? (She has a way of
smothering the lead singer during the too-long fade.) Not even sacharine.
NutraSweet.

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>seven. Cookies
>i'd always wanted to hear "C is for Cookie" being covered by Laibach.

Please god, let me live to hear this!

Another Laibach potential Sesame Street cover tune: "Rubber Ducky" (Imagine
the singer's deep, militaristic/Naziesque Slovenian voice churning out the
vocals instead of Ernie.) He'd make a great Count, as well.

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>"...You who travel with the wind, what weathervane shall direct your
>course?"          -Kahlil Gibran

Had an eerie Gibran experience once... was listening to and profoundly
affected by, Dead Can Dance's first lp with a girlfriend years ago, and
happened to randomly turn to a poem by Gibran (who I had not read before)
which said something to the effect that "only when we are dead shall we truly
dance"...

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>        Hi all, I'm new on this list. Just writing to say how impressed I
>was when I recieved all the blurb after subscribing and finding that the
>Cocteau Twins featured heavily... I've only recently 'got into' them and
>only have their 'Four Callender Cafe' album (being a poor student I can't
>afford to bye any other of their albums) but I know noone else who seems
>to like them...any info on them would be good.
>
>Chris Adams

Here's my ordering by favorites of the CT albums (not singles) -- Keep in
mind I'm an old-timer.

1. Treasure
2. Victorialand
3. Sunburst and Snowblind (or Head Over Heels, whichever is the album -- I
have them on a double-tape and get mixed up...)
4. Moon & The Melodies (actually CT and Harold Budd)
5. The Pink Opaque (actually a compilation)
6. Blue Bell Knoll
7. Garlands
8. Heaven Or Las Vegas
9. Four Calendar Cafe

(have I missed any?)

So Chris, seeing as how you _like_ FCC, what you might want to do is turn
this list upside-down (except keep the harsher Garlands at the bottom). Or,
you may be pleasantly surprised upon discovering the greatness of the early
stuff. Basically, if you've only heard FCC, you ain't heard nuthin' yet!

-- love, Thom "My Tastes Are Correct" Heileson

    + ---    Thom S. Heileson
   + +-             oR                 [antiAxiomaticism unlimited]
    + -    phASER@cyberspace.com

           heilts1@macgw.ghc.org

           "I'll give you an example, typically.
    It's less complicated than it simply should be." - Wire

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:53:13 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Re: the great 4AD tape swap?????


Hey, cool idea...but since i've been away for the past week and came
home to over 200 messages, I first thought that it was a VCR tape
swap...because there are some things in that department that I would
like too.

But...count me in for the audio tape swap.  What I would
rreeaallyy!!! really like is le'slave endormi (spelling?) by
Rhischnelle and the lp of Water by The Wolfgang Press (or any of
their funky mixes or older stuff that I can't find anywhere).  And if
it's not asking too much, something good by slowdive (I only have and
can find Just For A Day).

Holly

bio4hah@cabell.vcu.edu

518 W. Grace St.  Apt 1
Richmond, VA 23220
(until I move in August)

god-what a pain!!!


Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:50:27 -0400
From: Darkwave3@AOL.COM
Subject: Love Spirals Downwards shows


Projekt Records recording artist Love Spirals Downwards will perform their
first of several live 'acoustic unplugged' shows (scattered throughout this
summer) at the Crocodile in Seattle on Friday June 9.  They will be playing
with Ivy Records' Faith & Disease and Trance to the Sun of Tess Records.  The
show starts at 9:30 and is 21 and over.  The Crocodile is located at 2200
2'nd Ave.

Unfortunately, the San Francisco show that was scheduled for June 3 is no
longer happening.

Call the Projekt info line for the latest info: (818) 395-7698

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 21:05:41 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Liz and abuse...again


>
> > Nothing new?  It is the first time she said she had been sexually
> > abused in an interview.
>
> The way it's written here, it sounds like she was abused at the
interview.  She just can't seem to get away, can she?

(not meant to be mean; just that the syntax made me laugh.  It's
funny how grammer haunts you.)
>
Holly

P.S.  Sorry for all the stupid K's in the beginning.  My email link
is sort of funky.


>

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 21:27:22 EDT
From: "Holly A. Hopey" (bio4hah@CABELL.VCU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Tom Jones and TWP


>
> I don't know if any of you have actually listened to Tom Jones' "The Lead &
> How to Swing It", but his version of TWP's "A Girl Like You" is rather
> fabby. There _is_ life after Vegas - and it's hip...
>
> Did you know that TWP even intentially wrote a couple songs for
Tom Jone's last album.  And supposedly Tom loved them; thought they
were really his style.  I don't have the album so I haven't read the
credits...so I can't even tell you the names of the songs.

Plus, did you see the video for Going South.  Mick Allen was dressed
in some tacky suit (I think it was shiny too) sing on stage in Las
Vegas.  I think they were doing a sort of campy homage thing to Tom
Jones.  They supposedly really admire him.  I never saw the
connection and still don't.  I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen
it in writing.  I just thought that Tom was ripping off TWP.

Holly


>


Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 03:54:50 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: TWP "live"


I found this on the alt.music.4ad list and I am very interested on comments
from people who have seen twp live recently...I haven`t, but I have heard
similiar things from a friend who has seen them in Hamburg...and he is
involved in all kind of music Jazz..Soul...Funk...Indie...everything..so I
give quite a deal on his opinion....btw, I like twp a lot ..they are
actually one of my favourite artists right now...but this makes me kind of
nervous....is this really true ?

Opinions welcomed!


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h.ch!news.rccn.net!Portugal.EU.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!howland.reston.ans.
net!news1.digex.net!news3.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail
>
>I'm pretty new to Wolfgang Press; my first album of theirs was Funky
>Little Demons.  The album is pretty decent, so I figured a natural
>follow-up would be to go to their show a couple of weeks ago at Irving
>Plaza in NYC.
>
> Their opener was a band from Lancaster called "Suddenly, Tammy!"  The
>band is composed of a pianist who sings, her drummer brother, and a
>bassist.  Even though they don't sound like Rush, they have that same
>tight trio quality -- small band, big sound.  Their sound was
>refreshing, and they weren't trying to use overdistorted guitars to
>cover up anything because they didn't have anything to hide.  They were
>talented and the songs were developed.  I also like her voice.  I think
>she sounds a little like the lead from the Sundays but is still unique.
> They had a fun, friendly stage presence and seeing them live was
>entertaining as a result.  (The bassist came forward at the end of
>their set to say "You guys are nice." to the audience)   Definitely
>check out their show and their albums.
>
> After that extra-long Headliner Delay, Wolfgang Press got up on the
>stage.  I was a little surprised to see six guys out there, but thought
>it might be their natural extension for live performance.  What evolved
>was a melee of sound where it seemed like each performer was at a
>different show.  Unlike "Suddenly, Tammy!", they weren't a tight band
>what-so-ever.  I think one of friends who was there said it best when
>he said "about one out of every three songs sounded like it was
>produced".
>
> I also thought they might come out being a little more bluesy or funky
>live, expanding on those funky grooves that, in a Raygun interview,
>they claimed they were aiming for on "Demons."  Instead, they went for
>that hard-edge rock conversion that just gets so old.  A few songs were
>very similar to the album, including their encore, which was "Chains".
>Those were the songs that relied heavily on their electronic sound, and
>they sounded more produced overall.  They probably sounded produced
>because a lot of the funky riffs were activated by just one key on the
>ol' sampler.  Even from twenty feet away I could see that all the
>keyboardist was doing was hitting ONE KEY ON FOURS.  C'mon guys... at
>least TRY to make us think you're earning your money up there!
>
> The keyboard bit was only a small part of Wolfgang Press's
>pretentiousness up on stage.  I've rarely seen a band where there was
>absolutely no interaction with the audience... this is one of those
>rare occasions.  I think the most interaction they had was when someone
>jumped on stage, and didn't even get a glance from anyone in the band
>before a roadie put her back in the audience.  After they'd finish a
>song, they'd all turn their backs on the audience.  Look: the reason I
>see bands live is because I hope I can get a better idea of what
>they're about.  When someone ignores the audience or pulls that
>Courtney Love act ("Fuck you for liking me, audience!"), then a live
>show becomes a put-on.  The overall effect of this attitude from
>Wolfgang Press convinced me that they're just another record company
>music invention.  You may like the album, but don't bother seeing them
>live.
>
>
> Chris's Live Show Rating (0 - 5 guitars):
>   [ 0 = I left before it was over
>     5 = Best show I've ever been to ]
>
>   The Wolfgang Press  = 1 guitar
>   Suddenly, Tammy!    = 4 guitars
>
>--
>Chris Trimble - trimble@panix.com
>
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>.
>


Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:40:27 -0700
From: Andre the Giant (brettg@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Breeders


>
> >         Looking back at last month's Select Magazine I noticed a small
> > titchy paragraph referring to the Breeders releasing a rushed new album in
> > June which noone else had heard at the time. I haven't heard anything
> > since...any news?
> > Chris
> >
>
> I think I posted a while back that my friend at 4AD told me that this
> album had been made, but the band decided to scrap it and it will not be
> released.  Until then, I've heard, Kim Deal is working on some kind of
> solo project.
>

This is the same thing that the LA Times said about a month ago. I think
they said that the songs from the scraped LP would be worked into the
solo project.

Brett

Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 22:27:18 +0200
From: Olga.Kosmina@DEKABRISTOV.ST.5-178.KIEV.253121.UKRAINE
Subject: meet women of the former USSR through romance ads

              AMERICAN-ZIONISM@JTSA.EDU

**probable flamer, see humble note below

##    meet women of the former USSR through romance ads    ##

     Months ago, Olga Kosmina placed my personal ad in several papers
of the former Soviet Union.  Since that time I have received over 70
responses for the $50 I sent her.  My ad was specific -- seeking
attractive women no taller than 5ft 8in.  Had I not been that specific,
perhaps the response would have been double. I have found far greater
success placing my own personal advertisement than by purchasing addresses
through several well know Russian "bride" catalog companies.
     If you are interested in placing a personal romance ad as I did,
contact Olga.  She has built up a list of most every newspaper and
magazine in the former Soviet Union and could help direct your ad to
certain areas if you wished.  She writes: "please say that I place all
ad _throughout_ Russia and other countries of former Soviet Union, not
only Western Russia."  Olga asks for $50 because this amount provides a
fairly wide exposure.  *I think that of the $50, she pays the various newspapers
something around $35.  She keeps the remainder for her efforts.*
     Olga is 23 years old, has a bachelors in biology and works full-time
as a florist in Kiev. She speaks, reads and writes English as well as her native
languages of Russian and Ukrainian.
     I realize that it is a very trusting person who would place $ in
an envelope and mail to a foreign country.  And so, feel free to send a
letter of inquiry.  The time for a letter to reach Kiev averages 15
days and response 8 to 10.

Olga Kozmina
Dekabristov Street 5 - 178
Kiev 253121
Ukraine

     A month ago, I posted similarly on Olga's behalf.  She wrote
Americans, from a Speniard and a Australian.  Thank you very much for
your help!  I will be able to receive this money in two months only."
     Apparently it takes several months for personal checks to clear.
I have found that by placing a single bill between two pieces of
newsprint inside of a white envelope, the Ukrainian post can not see
through and does not bother to tamper.  I have yet to lose a letter
sent to Kiev.  I am sorry that Olga does not have e-mail.
     I am posting anonymously because of the inordinate amount of
e-mail which I would receive -- inquiries as well as flames.

Best Wishes,

Brett and Olga

______________________________________________________________________
Subject: polite note

From: Brett Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net- etiquette," she believes that offering lonely singles the possibility of romance exceeds the cost of angering those who feel the net should not be used in this fashion. IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. peace. . .