Subject: Re: ob Closedown
Subject: Ultra Vivid Scene lyrics sought
Subject: requesting reviews for cocteau twins
Subject: Re: Legality of dubbing stuff
Subject: Re: Pixies.
Subject: Re: belly (was re: pixies)
Subject: Elysium review (c/p to DP & 4AD)
Subject: lisa germano
Subject: Quick question......
Subject: cost of Soft White Underbelly zine
Subject: Kevin Shields Is Crazy...
Subject: Re: tones on tail
Subject: Oomingmak
Subject: To Lisa-Re Tapes
Subject: Re: tones on tail
Subject: Review: The Innocence Mission "Bright As Yellow" EP
Subject: scooby doo says All Virgos Are Mad!!!
Subject: Re: tones on tail
Subject: Re: scooby doo says All Virgos Are Mad!!!
Subject: attn: einexile fans!
Subject: Tarnation!
Subject: rachel's handwriting on cd
Subject: Some other stuff...
Subject: Love Spirals Downwards in Bay area
Subject: Love Spirals Downwards in Bay area
Subject: Help me and my stupid self!!!!
Subject: Re: My wants list
Subject: Leonard Cohen
Subject: Re: rachel's handwriting on cd
Subject: quick tidbit...
Subject: Belly on NPR tomorrow morning!
Subject: Re: Legality of dubbing stuff
Subject: Re: Tarnation!
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 22:12:19 -0700
About Closedown
> Several people have compared them to Slowdive (including myself).
Yes, early Slowdive is a good comparison, at least live. The
album Nearfield I found to be pretty disappointing at least compared
with the two demos I have which far surpass it.
> To get the flavour of their real potential, try to check out Closedown track
> on "20 Yrs. of Sunshine" comp.- it really stands out.
That's directly from one of their demo tapes, and how they sound live.
On the album, it's like the producer wanted to fit them in to
the "Silent mold" with all the other _50 Years Of Sunshine_
bands. Way too much ambience, not enough guitar noise. But live
it's like a whole different band
> You should have signed them, Brant.
Money is the word.
| Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567 | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 00:41:40 +0000
i'm in need of lyrics of UVS's self-titled album.. or Joy......
if you have lyrics to either of these albums.. please email me??
also
i have 2 UVS 12"'s walking after midnight, and mercy seat.. any
others released that might be difficult to find in the future?
bye
arthur
[email protected]
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 22:59:29 -0700
hi everyone,
I am currently redoing the cocteau twins www site and I would like to put
reviews for each of the albums/eps. In the style of dewdrops' album
reviews, i would like to have at least two reviews for of the releases.
If you would like to do some reviews, please e-mail me with the ones you
want to do and a time frame of when you might complete it. no html
experience necessary!
thanks
-jack huynh
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 00:56:52 -0700
On Mon, 29 May 1995, Kanga and lisaRoo wrote:
> *laws*
> USA - it is not illegal to dub something as long as you do not sell it for
> profit or distribute it for others to sell as profit. this is called
> The Home Use Exception.
Does this include video?
[email protected]
"He who clearly apprehends the scheme of existence does not rejoice over
life, nor repine at death; for he knows that external limits are not final."
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 09:08:15 +0100
Don't know if you want this little piece of info about some Pixies stuff
I picked up but anyway.
At a record fair over the weekend I got a Canadian 12" of Here Comes Your
Man. The one with the picture of the dog. The other song one side a was
tame. On the other side playing at 33 1/3 was Manta Ray, another song and
Dancing the Manta Ray. A sticker on the record said special 7" price
featuring demos and odditities. It was distributed by 4ad/Vertigo and
doesn't seem to appear on the eyesore database. I'll give more details if
you want.
Also, I got a CD called Rough Diamonds , again, by the Pixies which had
31 demo songs from 1987-1991. I won't list the songs but one track is
Hang on to your ego with what sounds like a drum machine being used.
I saw another bootleg which had the Doolittle sessions and live gig on it.
Also, Belly were live on the radio this weekend. Still can't find the new
single in the UK though.
'h'y
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 10:03:05 -0700
[email protected] wrote:
> Also, Belly were live on the radio this weekend. Still can't find
> the new single in the UK though.
i've asked at the local shop about a new belly single and was told that
there was nothing on their order forms (which list things up to and
including the second week of june) so we'll all just have to wait. i'll
keep asking.
also, did anybody download belly's 'spaceman' whilst it was available? i
tried but it was 5M and was not exactly fast (in fact i worked out that
at the rate it was downloading it would have taken 8 hours). if so, can
you make it available on an ftp site somewhere. (it was mpeg format
wasn't it?). there were two smaller versions too, either of these would
do.
--
([email protected])
commonplace, everyday...
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 03:12:51 -0700
_Elysium_
To call this collection of songs blissful delight would be
an understatement. Taking their name from the Greek myth of a
blessed abode of the dead entering a state of complete happiness,
Elysium's sound will consume you. "Glistening Ganache", "Proud
Man" and "Sweetly Said" are just a few of the richly orchestrated
songs that compose this beautiful set of tunes. The female vocals
sparkle above a layer of interwoven electric and acoustic guitar.
Elysium display their respect for a wide variety of notable influences
without being a direct derivative of any. Perfect music for a lazy
summer day. The Elysian fields beckon...
Dewdrops Records, 1817 Corinth Ave. #10, Los Angeles CA 90025-5567
[email protected]
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JRS, Distant Signals
--------------------------------------------------
Jason Schmit ftp.netcom.com:/pub/js/jschmit
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 09:52:40 -0400
hey there evryone;
i just bought "geek the girl", and i would like to know more info on lisa.
i had read past discussions on her albums, but i didn't quite pay
attention to it, since i was not familiar with her work. now that
i have the whole summer to kill, i want to check as many 4ad artists
out as i can. :)
so, i will start with lisa. :) (i am already somewhat familiar with dcd,
tmc, and the pixies). anyhow, is she the same who used to sing that
"u make me wanna wear dresses" song? :)
J.H. Rodrigues
"i'm just naturally evil..."
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 09:05:37 -0500
"JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU!owner-4ad-l" at May 30, 95 09:52:40 am
Whose picture is on the cover of TMC's "Blood" CD?
--iSpy--
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 10:59:46 EDT
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Ohmigod... I can't believe I forgot to ask John the retail while he was
here! Anyway, I got him on the phone and he says that the retail will
be $4-. Please mail him today and spread the word.
Stephen
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 09:10:04 -0800
This is sort of thislisty... Hate to be so gossipy, but just take it with a
grain of rock salt :)
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 27 May 95 20:34:46 -0700
Hello,
I heard some very interesting news from a guy who is pretty well connected
and has an online music magazine. He said he was just in England and heard
that Kevin Shields from MBV erased all of those tapes in a 'crack' induced
fury! I don't know for sure how much truth there is to this... the guy who
I heard it from sounded like he was on crack! He also said that he saw
Kevin at an Oasis party and Kevin got out of control and punched some girl
in the eye. If anyone wants to probe the guy I heard all of this crap
from, his e-mail is : [email protected]
I guess before he started doing the magazine, he used to work for 4AD in
the US.
linus
----------------------------------
Will Kevin end up following Syd Barrett's footsteps?
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 11:40:00 -0700
On Mon, 29 May 1995, j C j aubin wrote:
> quick question: what would be the name of that tones on tail single
> that is worth lots of money?
>
I believe it's called Tones on Tail
Ivo
"perhaps it's just the chocolate singing, broken winded, whistling..."
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 15:28:09 -0400
Someone on the list a while back mentioned that s/he knew the origin of this
word (OOMINGMAK -- found on CT's Victorialand). They said something to the
effect of it being an Inuit word for some sort of animal or something. Does
anyone recall what that was, or could the individual who posted this plese
reply back with that info? Thanks!
Mike
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 20:58:04 +0100
Lisa -please put me down for some tape swapping! I don't have
an address for you so I'm using the list(apologies to anyone
else wasting their time reading this).Thanks Hugh.
[email protected]
Hugh O'Brien [email protected]
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 21:57:37 +0100
95 11:40:00 am
> > quick question: what would be the name of that tones on tail single
> > that is worth lots of money?
> >
>
>
> I believe it's called Tones on Tail
>
> Ivo
And, how much could it be worth?
i just bought that single over the weekend. Is the "There's Only One!"
single worth anything too?
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 13:11:00 -0700
The Innocence Mission "Bright As Yellow" EP (A&M)
I'm glad to see signs of life from the Innocence Mission, and even a promise
of a forthcoming album. "Umbrella" (1991) was a really glorious mixture of
folk-rock and Cocteau Twins, with Karen Peris' beautiful vocals (which, to
make tawdry comparisons, might be compared vaguely to Harriet Wheeler or Hope
Sandoval with bits of Patsy Cline) and exquisite lyrics (which compare well to
nearly any contemporary poetry I've read except maybe for Ted Hughes.)
"Bright As Yellow", the title track, is -- as has been reported here -- very
much in a Mazzy Star vein, nice although more than a bit derivative and not up
to their previous standards. The other three songs are more Innocence
Mission-like, very pretty and chimy. "Let's Talk About Something Else" has
some interesting and unexpected changes of key that will leave you slightly
unsettled if you're listening closely; "That Was Another Country" has a
beautiful old-U2-style bridge; and "Geranium Lake" is a short and shimmery
duet for acoustic guitar and voice.
The EP isn't all that long, but it stands well on its own and, since half the
songs won't be on the album, is a required purchase for fans.
Here are some lyrics:
----------------------------------------------
Rowing out into the air.
Taking blankets to the bay. It's the same.
And he was fine,
and, in the first place, was around.
That was another country,
that was another country.
I'm taking these dumb paper lanterns down
Yards, no, miles they strung along
And me with them. And how was I
supposed to know about that?
That was another country,
that was another country.
Are you alright, are you alright?
You are my friend. Are you alright?
Rowing out into the air.
Driving home, home from the bay. And we sang.
And he was fine.
And what is more, he was around.
That was another country,
that was another country.
But are you alright, are you alright?
You are still my friend, you didn't go out of my life.
----------------------------------------------
(OK campers, blow your noses and get back to work now.)
Jens Alfke ________ OpenDoc Geometer _______ [email protected]
Zachary Taylor was a Barosaurus and, at 89 feet,
was possibly our longest President ever.
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 16:15:57 -0500
just a quirky experience..
i turned on the TV, about to flip to CNN, and it just happened
to be on TBS, and scooby doo was on. giving way to fond childhood
memories, i watched for a while, and scrappy (scooby's nephew for
those of you who don't remember) said out of nowhere, "well, those stolen
helium tanks just prove that all virgos are mad!!!"
makes ya wonder bout ivo...
lisaroo
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 14:20:55 -0700
> > >
> >
> >
> > I believe it's called Tones on Tail
> >
>
> And, how much could it be worth?
I've seen it for no less than $75...
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 16:10:01 -0700
You know...this is about the fifth reference I've heard to Scooby Doo
this weekend, and I, too, watched it this weekend for the first time in
years (although I only saw the Lady Vampire of the Bank and the Star
Monster episodes).... I never knew, either, that Casey Kasem was the
voice of Shaggy. The things you learn....
Ivo
"perhaps it's just the chocolate singing, broken winded, whistling..."
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 15:59:58 -0700
everyone finger his account and read his .plan!!!!!!!
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 19:22:31 -0500
There was a bit of info about the latest 4AD signing in the latest issue
of Option (with idiot extraordinaire Moby gracing the cover) in the form
of a review of what appears to be an earlier indie release. Of course,
knowing Option, it could easily be pretty old, but I found it interesting
(or should that be "distressing"?) anyway...
********** Begin plagiarism **********
This kinda-country resurgence has reached alarming proportions.
Tarnation straddle the fence 'tween revisionist hokum and trad reliance.
Of San Francisco's contingent of mutant combos attempting to get back to
their claimed country roots, Tarnation rises cream-like to the top.
Singers Paula Frazer and Wendell Sullivan display the counterpoint
between heart and mind, he holding down the fort with relaxed, reassuring
naturalism and she rocking the boat ever so gently with plaintive,
dolorous tones. "It's Not Easy" showcases both of their voices, plus the
band's simple approach to songcraft bolstered by emphatic pop overtones.
Other selections border on parody (twangy guitars, mournful,
cry-in-your-hops singing and funereal rhythms) but without ever
succumbing to outright camp. They're better when they stick with what
they know: pumping vibrancy and emotion into vignettes of pain ("Lonely
Nights", "They Took You Away Again"), desire ("Do You Fancy Me"),
betrayal ("Big O Motel") and resignation ("Never an Easy Way").
Nuf Sed, Box 591075, S.F., CA 94159
********** End plagiarism **********
Anyway, this beggars the obvious question: does 4AD really need another
band with a pronounced country influence?
No...
---Jeremy Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 16:12:34 -0500
> One question though: is it available on CD? The packaging
> for the vinyl release sounds pretty cool, but I'd still prefer
> to have a CD.
I have mine on cd, but i would LOVE to have it on vinyl as well.
i'll get it and send it to anyone who wants it....
does anyone know ANYTHING about Quarterstick records, which released it?
thanks, lisaroo
"and i'm all dressed up in dreams...."
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 19:33:18 -0500
(1) I'm going to be in (or around) San Francisco from June 13th to 19th.
Are any interesting shows or events going to be held in the Bay Area
during the 14th thru 18th?
(2) I want to check out some Leonard Cohen. Can anyone recommend a good
place to start?
(3) Are there any channels on IRC where thislisty/indie/"alternative"
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 21:45:01 -0400
Ok.....I am the silly grrl and all that shit sorry to waste your time
and all that but I am *really* having trouble unsubscribing....
If there is anyone online right now please HELP lil ol me.......
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 20:00:37 -0600
hey my friend has the pale saints lp w/ postcards. i am pretty sure any
way. he will most likely sell it. shit, he would sell anything. let me
talk to him and i will get back with you if he has it/ is willing to sell it.
eric
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 22:39:20 -0500
He goes back to at least 1967. The best of his early years came out
in 1975. It has "Suzanne", "So Long Marianne", "Hey, That's no way to
say Goodbye", etc. Well worth it.
His two recent releases, "I'm your Man" and "The Future" are also
very good. Either would give you an idea of what he is like. He was
on Austin City Limits after "I'm Your Man" came out and did a
remarkable job. The instrumental "Tacoma Trailer" at the end of "The
Future" is understated excellence.
TIM CONLON
[email protected]
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 23:18:21 -0400
Funny story,
I was in the CD store today, filling out the order form for Rachel's
'Handwriting', when (after handing the form to the clerk) I looked down into
the glass case before me, and there it was!
It wasn't the vinyl I was hoping for, but I opted to buy the CD anyway.
Really nice packaging! Nothing quite as elaborate as the vinyl version I've
read some much about.
As for the music, truely amazing. Nothing quite like it. As a previous post
put it, I was in so much in awe, all I could really do is sit there and
listen to it with my mouth hanging open. I sat in the car listening to the
first 2 songs, before bringing myself to finally pull away from the record
store. The only way I could describe it is unconventional. It seems to
break so many 'norms' that that is what I think grabs you and holds on to you
throughout the entire album (cd). But it all seems to fit so perfectly,
harmonies weaving in and out in perfect harmony. You ACTUALLY DO sit there,
gazing in amazement, as if suddenly reaching enlightenment.
All of you must hear this!
If any of you would like to have acopy, but are unable to get it through
local channels, the address on the back of the packaging is:
Quarterstick Records
P.O. Box25342; Chicago, Illinois 60625
or
P.O. Box59; London, England N22 1AR
the cd# is: QS30CD (with the lp is assume being QS30LP - ?????)
to those of you who already have this little jewel, the names on the back of
the package look familiar, but I can't place them. Any of you know which
other bands they have performed in?
-The Blue Bell's Knoll
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 20:25:25 -0700
The new cd that comes along with huH? magazine (which seems to be Oh, so
4AD friendly) this month includes Valley of the Morning Sun by Kendra
Smith and something like Trump Love (I don't have the cd in front of me)
by Liquorice.
Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 21:12:11 -0700
Most of you will read this too late, but NPR's "Morning Edition"
will feature a story on Belly and Tanya Donnelly tomorrow (Wed 31
May) morning. Does anybody know who the 4AD freak at NPR is? They
seem to profile and review 4AD artists more than one might normally
suspect. Whoever this person is, I think s/he is a Throwing Muses
fan since in the past I've heard items on TM and Kristin Hersh.
Hmmm...
P.S. For non-North Americans, NPR (National Public Radio) is one
of the US publically funded radio outfits.