4ad-l Mail for 05-29-1995

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Subject: Re: the great 4AD tape swap?????
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 01:04:01 -0400
From: "Lisa R. Chong" (yku00471@YORKU.CA)
Subject: the terrible 4AD tape swapping ring!!!!!
Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 22:13:38 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: the great 4AD tape swap?????
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 09:53:19 +0100
From: Tobermory (H.A.Price@SHEFFIELD.AC.UK)
Subject: Intro and 4AD tape swap
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 11:27:30 GMT
From: "Jay D. Wulf" (jwulf@ROADRUNNER.COM)
Subject: Re: sTiK'eM Up, Uv SwPed TaPes
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 15:11:10 -0400
From: Marie Ali (ROXCEE@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: sTiK'eM Up, Uv SwPed TaPes
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 14:45:31 +0000
From: dreambeing (ahr@hic.net)
Subject: speaking of tapes...
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 16:43:26 -0400
From: rebecca fagan (rfagan@TIAC.NET)
Subject:
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 22:36:08 +0100
From: Christopher Michael Adams (sguadach@READING.AC.UK)
Subject: Legality of dubbing stuff
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 17:22:57 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: rachel's handwriting
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 17:30:26 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: TAPE SWAP DEADLINE IS 2 JUNE
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 17:34:24 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Half String/Scenic/Alison's Halo shows in LA
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 21:11:16 -0700
From: nelson@GSTARS.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 28 May 1995 to 29 May 1995
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 21:15:51 -0700
From: "Reality's email account" (mcclure@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)

Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 01:04:01 -0400
From: "Lisa R. Chong" (yku00471@YORKU.CA)
Subject: Re: the great 4AD tape swap?????

              28, 11:38pm)

On May 28, 11:38pm, dreambeing wrote:
> Subject: Re: the great 4AD tape swap?????
> my aversion to making such a tape for someone is not a legal one..
> but one rather -- what if they dont like it  ?   :)?  sure.. i think
> of myself as a very good judge of music.. but never know where others
> affections might lie. . and would feel bad if they weren't pleased
> withit.. anyway..

well if they don't like it, then they don't like it.. it's a SWAP! no one
loses anything (except maybe their reputation.. heh heh..well hopefully
not).. no one has the exact same tastes anyway, and they should expect/know
that. I've done a tape swap, and i'm pretty sure there were some songs on
there that i love, that the person on the other side was not too impressed by
(maybe even pissed).. this is a cliche, but if everyone had the same taste
and the same affections and whatever, then the world would be really boring
(aaahh! i sound like my mother)... it's for fun, anyway. (and who cares about
the legal implications??)

Lisa.

Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 22:13:38 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: the terrible 4AD tape swapping ring!!!!!


I can dig it. Even though I never actually get around to sending anyone
anything I agree to send them, I can dig it. Just to clear up the legal
question, I hereby admit to having made mixed and even dubbed the odd
album for a friend or two. Now if in a week or so I am still here and
have not been arrested and charged, it's prolly safe to say we can get
away with the dirty deed.

May I suggest?

- mixes are better than whole albums (also legaler)
- people who hate their tapes can trade (be nice)
- no one reads or replies to this message (shhhhhh)


 elixenie


Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 09:53:19 +0100
From: Tobermory (H.A.Price@SHEFFIELD.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: the great 4AD tape swap?????


> > Isn't this highly illegal??
> > Tob >
> you mean to tell me that you have never dubbed a tape for a friend?
>
> that's like saying that you ALWAYS go 35 mph no matter what....

It *is* illegal (at least over here in Land of Brits), but there would
be *so* much work involved with cracking down on *every*
little dubbed recording, they don't bother getting anyone for one-
offs.  HOWEVER, if Kanga.. puts up "THE GREAT 4AD TAPE SWAP!!", it's
considered "worth their while", and you could have a bit of trouble,
though probably not more than a fine..

On the other hand (steps off moral pedestal), the cops don't know
what the Internet *is*, let alone use it, so there's little or no
chance that anyone'd get spotted.
Tob


Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 11:27:30 GMT
From: "Jay D. Wulf" (jwulf@ROADRUNNER.COM)
Subject: Intro and 4AD tape swap


I just signed up with this listserv yesterday afternoon and already happy to
have found it on the WWW.

Does this list recquire introductions of whomever signs on or can I just
enigmatically appear?

In reading my mail this morning, I am very interested in getting involved
with tape swapping with anyone out there.

Jay
"Don't take life to seriously,
you don't get out alive."
Bugs Bunny


Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 15:11:10 -0400
From: Marie Ali (ROXCEE@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: sTiK'eM Up, Uv SwPed TaPes


it's not illegal... it is illegal... it's not...
                        W H O    C A R E S? ? ?

Now who has what to swap?

... and Tob Tob Tob... there ARE internet police, but they aren't going to be
banging down your door because you made someone a cassette tape.  FYI:
there's a movement to censor e-mail brought to us by the friendly and the
paranoid.  AKA the government.  Just how paranoid YOU choose to be is up to
you, but swapping tapes doesn't seem to be a high one on the list of internet
crimes... even if it is illegal... so I say again...

Who has what to swap?  I would be happy to pay for the cost of the tape if
someone is kind enough to send one to me...

~ROXCEE

Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 14:45:31 +0000
From: dreambeing (ahr@hic.net)
Subject: Re: sTiK'eM Up, Uv SwPed TaPes


how about this.. if someone send me a request by email i'll send a
list of all my cds and tape compilations.. whoever can pick and
choose a handful of 'i want that' and whatever is left on the tape
i'll use my best judgement...

i'd be happy to make anyone a tape of what i have..

i dont have any blank tapes to send anyone so that i might get a tape
*weep*

anyway

ahr@hic.net

arthur


Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 16:43:26 -0400
From: rebecca fagan (rfagan@TIAC.NET)
Subject: speaking of tapes...


...are those rare tape chain one and two tapes still going around? I never
recieved anything... was wondering if they just ended without getting to
me... disappeared off the face of the planet, or what?


any ideas anyone...

r

rebecca fagan: rfagan@tiac.net


Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 22:36:08 +0100
From: Christopher Michael Adams (sguadach@READING.AC.UK) Hi all, I'm new on this list. Just writing to say how impressed I was when I recieved all the blurb after subscribing and finding that the Cocteau Twins featured heavily... I've only recently 'got into' them and only have their 'Four Callender Cafe' album (being a poor student I can't afford to bye any other of their albums) but I know noone else who seems to like them...any info on them would be good. Chris Adams

Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 17:22:57 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: Legality of dubbing stuff


*disclaimer*
i personally don't care one way or the other, someone asked me to post this.....

*laws*
USA - it is not illegal to dub something as long as you do not sell it for
profit or distribute it for others to sell as profit. this is called
The Home Use Exception.

UK - it IS illegal to reproduce something from one format to another, period.
it is NOT illegal to reproduce something from the same format to the same
format, e.g., tape to tape, cd to cd. one of the reasons for this is archiving.

brought to you by lisa's family, all of whom are lawyers.

Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 17:30:26 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: rachel's handwriting


EVERYONE OF YOU MUST BUY THIS ALBUM IMMEDIATELY!

ok, this is really beautiful. the group is called rachel's, the album is
called handwriting. the plastic package outside the actual album packaging
bore a sticker which read, "this record package is entirely hand made and has
a cool 16 page color book.  Basically, this sums up 4 years of soul renching
obsession..." it IS beautiful, and the music matches. It is a bit like
jazzy chamber music, and i really could do nothing else while i was listening
to this but gape in amazement. the piano work is a bit remanescent of
michael nyman's stuff, but is completely different. for those of you who care,
it is comprised of ex members of various indie bands. you won't be sorry.
it is regular priced and would be worth it for the package alone.

lisa

Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 17:34:24 -0500
From: Kanga and lisaRoo (ST5C0@JETSON.UH.EDU)
Subject: TAPE SWAP DEADLINE IS 2 JUNE


just a note to all those who haven't made up your minds yet, you must
let me know if you are going to participate by 2 june. on that friday, i
will send everybody their people to swap with, ok?

thanks, lisa
"milquetoast"


Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 21:11:16 -0700
From: nelson@GSTARS.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Half String/Scenic/Alison's Halo shows in LA

              dreampop-l@netcom.com

Here's all the info on the Half String/Scenic/Alison's Halo
shows in Los Angeles in a few weeks. Note that on Saturday
they're even playing with Aberdeen.

Run, walk, crawl, fly, drive to Los Angeles for these
dates. I'm not being hyperbolic when I say that these are
very likely going to be among the year's best shows.

thursday june 15:  scenic radio performance in afternoon
                   scenic w/ radar bros. (members of medicine)
                   @ luna park in evening.

friday   june 16:  half string, alison's halo, scenic
                   @ Aaron's Records in evening.

saturday june 17:  half string, alison's halo, scenic
                   @ Rhino Records, Claremont in afternoon
                   half string, alison's halo, scenic, & aberdeen
                   @ Eagle's Coffee House N. Hollywood in evening.

Half String may be doing a KXLU show sometime that weekend.

brant
dewdrops

Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 21:15:51 -0700
From: "Reality's email account" (mcclure@MUGWUMP.UCSD.EDU)
Subject: Re: 4AD-L Digest - 28 May 1995 to 29 May 1995


Oops! That subject line should read:


I've heard a lot about this new release.  It sounds pretty neat
(somebody described it as "indie-classical"!)

One question though: is it available on CD?  The packaging
for the vinyl release sounds pretty cool, but I'd still prefer
to have a CD.

Reality

P.S. Vinyl-lovers: please don't flame me.  I love vinyl as
much as the next person!  I own lots of vinyl, since lots of
the stuff I listen too is only available in that format.
That's cool.  But vinyl is just too unforgiving for klutzes
like me.  When I scratch a CD, a little toothpaste'll fix
it, but once you scratch that This Mortal Coil twelve-inch...