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Subject: Re: CD's for sale. Sorry.
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 03:34:24 -0400
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: pram - first release - anyone? anyone?
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 02:24:50 -0700
From: illusory k (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: PIAS: description of two promo 12" (UK)
Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:16:07 MET
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@PIAS.XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: IMPORTANT FOR ALL THIS MORTAL COIL FANS
Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:28:44 MET
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@PIAS.XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: NEW CT EP INFO!!!!
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 03:06:51 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: A note on prices
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 03:19:30 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: New This Mortal Coil?
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 06:54:47 -0400
From: Philip Locke (PLBear@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Misc digested
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 04:11:01 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Edward Kaspel
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 04:18:24 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW CT EP INFO!!!!
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 14:54:35 -0400
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Fwd: desperate
Date: 95-05-20 18:31:12 EDT
From: Atomicboy9
Subject: 4ad mac software
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 19:06:57 EDT
From: MR NORMAN N LEVENSTEIN (ANKX77A@PRODIGY.COM)
Subject: Re: 4ad mac software
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 22:59:33 -0400
From: rebecca fagan (rfagan@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: Red House Painters
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 23:29:27 -0400
From: James J Casey (jjc@CLDC.HOWARD.EDU)
Subject: any houston 4ad ppl?
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 22:38:48 +0000
From: Dream Being (ahr@HIC.NET)
Subject: Spoonfed
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 23:44:21 -0400
From: James J Casey (jjc@CLDC.HOWARD.EDU)
Subject: Re: Spoonfed
Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 21:12:10 -0700
From: illusory k (kelli@NETCOM.COM)

Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 03:34:24 -0400
From: "James P. Crimm" (jcrimm@MOOSE.UVM.EDU)
Subject: Re: CD's for sale. Sorry.


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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 02:24:50 -0700
From: illusory k (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: pram - first release - anyone? anyone?


  does anyone have the first pram ep and if so, would you be
  willing to tape it for my sweetheart? he'd thank you himself,
  but he's not here, and i know it would make his day if he
  could hear this...


  *k*
  ...while the esp orders take their time, i listen to the esp remixes...


Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:16:07 MET
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@PIAS.XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: PIAS: description of two promo 12" (UK)


HI,

Finally I've succeeded in getting the following 12" promo EP's:

TWP 5   THE WOLFGANG PRESS: REMIXES NUMBER TWO
        Side A:
        - Executioner (Adamson Mix)
                Additional Production & Remix: Barry Adamson
                Engeneered: Steve Fitzmaurice
        - 11 Years (Sabres Main Mix 1)
                Additional Production & Remix: The Sabres of Paradise
                                               (Weatherall, Kooner & Burns)
        Side AA:
        - Chains (Wobble Mix)
                Remixed: Jah Wobble
                Engineered: Mark Ferda
                Pedal Steel Guitar: B.J. Cole
                Bass Guitar: Jah Wobble
        - Going South (Coutry Style)
                Deconstructed: Michael Brook
                Engineered: Richard Evans
                Infinite Guitar and Buzz Bass: Michael Brook

        Comes in blue-purple-bronze sleeve (by Chris Bigg).
        Turnspeed: 33 RPM.

BELLY 1 BELLY: NOW THEY'LL SLEEP
        Side A:
        - Now They'll Sleep
        Side B:
        - King
        - Super-Connected

        Comes in grey (unprinted) sleeve.
        Turnspeed: 45 RPM

Cheerio,

Huite Rietveld
Play It Again Sam

Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:28:44 MET
From: Huite Rietveld (huite@PIAS.XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: IMPORTANT FOR ALL THIS MORTAL COIL FANS


Hi,

I've just heard a rumour that a lot of 4AD's artists are recording
covers nowadays and that Ivo is often seen in the control-rooms.
Is he preparing a new V/A? Does anybody know what's happening?

Cheerio,

Huite

Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 03:06:51 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW CT EP INFO!!!!


That's 13 for Garlands.

Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 03:19:30 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: A note on prices


How about the Interview Picture disc( vinyl, unopened) for 11$ plus
postage through this list.  I then traded a 6$ cd for the Interview
Picture disc( CD).  I figured it would be imposible to find either of
those, since they are also rare.  I am still looking for another vinyl
Interview Picture disc because the picture is different on the two
sides.  They will be framed and put up on my wall.


Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 06:54:47 -0400
From: Philip Locke (PLBear@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: New This Mortal Coil?


Huite wrote:

> I've just heard a rumour that a lot of 4AD's
> artists are recording covers nowadays and that
> Ivo is often seen in the control-rooms. Is he
> preparing a new V/A? Does anybody know what's happening?


I read an interview with IVO, probably over a year ago now, in which he said
there would be no more TMC albums.  He also said, however, that he would be
working on a similar new project with a new name.

Maybe that's what's going on.

--Phil
(plbear@aol.com)

Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 04:11:01 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Misc digested


On Fri, 19 May 1995, Heileson, Thom wrote:

> >>  My Bloody Valentine , The new record by ---- $50 (Australian)
> >>
> >>   Can anyone shed any light on the subject ??
> >>
> >  Well, I hope this helps.  Somebody over on the MBV list stated
> >this was a bootleg cd of a live performance in Osaka Japan that came out
> >shortly after "Loveless" was released.  I also heard it was a pre-Bilinda
> >album that came out that is only worth it for the true collectors.
> >Whatever that means.  Anyway, I hope this helps.

I have a poor copy of it so that I can't even tell if it's live or not.
It is definitely before Bilinda but the style is closer to the two grey
eps which preceded Isn't Anything. Fun stuff, singing isn't too bad. Not
really worth $50 but not nearly as awful as the one mentioned below:

> I'm pretty sure that pre-Bilinda album is called "This Is Your My Bloody
> Valentine," not "The New Record by..." (I have a dub of said 1st album). It
> sounds like The Damned meet The Cramps... on a bad day!

This is a perfect description. It should also be noted that Kevin Shields
seems to have played a minimal part on the record, as he is credited
third and hopefully did even less thanhe is credited for. I think the guy
who is now their drummer (or was, did we ever clear up if they broke up
or not?) wrote most of it. But I am going from memory here. Awful
artwork, too.

I assume this is worth something. What?

> Joyyy! I knew within time that a link would reveal itself betwixt 4AD
> and the lovely Audrey Hepburn (the coolest actress ever, BTW).


> >a while back, i heard 'wings of joy.' although i liked the overall
> >sound and texture, i was upset with the lack of melody. i was wondering
> >if subsequent releases solved this problem. any recommendations would
> >be much appreciated.
>
> All that I've heard from albums after "Wings Of Joy" is really powerful,
> better than said album (which I love).

WoJ doesn't really lack melody; it's just dissonant. I personally
recommend Forever, which isrich with groovy strumming and nice overlaid
melody, not too screechy except in a few places. Loved is musically
pretty unstatisfying. Very sing-songy, like Nick Cave or Barney. (And
this, ladies and gentlemen, is where the unknown assassin enters stage
left and slashes my throat to the tune of much applause.)

> >---Jeremy  Still laughing at some of the would-
> >                                    be CT lyric translations on their
> >                                    web page (I knew I shouldn't have
> >                                    looked).

I'm still waiting for an interpretation of "Oomingmak".

> >The only reason mailing
> >lists have charters is so that people, who can't think of more original
> >flames, can flame other people for being off-topic.

How about flaming for flaming? Or being off-topic about being off-topic.
Marvelous how discussing off-topic is so on-topic. Not like dumb ol' IDM,
where I can only get flamed by people who disagree with and hate me.

YMMV. 8)

> Thanks for saying this. Sometimes "netiquette" followers can be so anal...

hear hear

I have a few Cocteax questions to add here, if anyone is still reading...

1. Is the Tiny/Echoes bundle still in print?

2. Where in the US can one find the UK box set (or anything with thin
cases and inserts that aren't naturally creased nor tend to get caught in
the hinge)?

> "She bought the world, I paid the bills, I took those pills it was wind
> in her sails, she climbed so high"
>
> Is this Legendary Pink Dots?

Christ, I said the same thing a few days ago. You aren't mocking me, are
you? Is this not a *classic* Kaspel lyric? I can almost hear him singing
it (even with this awful MBV record on)..."She cwihmed so hieeeeeeyyy!!"
him on occasion.)

 einexile

Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 04:18:24 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Edward Kaspel


On Fri, 19 May 1995, Jason Bryant wrote:

> My only bitch about Ka-spell is the inconsistency.  There are works of his
> (and collaborations) that I truly love to listen to over and again.  ex.
> teargarden _tired eyes..._  Legendary Pink Dots _The Golden Age_ ,  _The
> Maria Dimension_, and _Four Days_.  But, there are works I can hardly listen
> to twice for instance _The Lovers_, and Teargarden _Sheila Liked..._.
>  Overall, though, I  like his works, and I realize that when you put your
> name into such and such amount of works every year, some weak tracks are
> going to surface.  Underappreciated and often overlooked, and that's how we
> like it!

This isn't exactly the case, I don't think. They tend to slip in and out
of periods of self-indulgence and musical brilliance, almost like two
opposite cleansing/purging rituals in a violent dance. Not that the self
indulgence is never brilliant, but they have had their bad days. The same
goes for the everemotional bilge of The Lovers (which I realy liked,
actually). Sheila Liked the Rodeo was awful...

Personal favorites are Any Day Now, Island of Jewels, Faces in the Fire,
and The Maria Dimension. 9 Lives to Wonder was also quite a comeback
after Malachai and its equally unworthy twin. They are definitely a band
in flux, and you do have to take the bad with the good.

I have not heard, nor been able to find, Four Days. Can you clue me in a
little?

 einexile


Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 14:54:35 -0400
From: Another Reason to Cut Off an Ear (ICEBLINK@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: NEW CT EP INFO!!!!


>That's 13 for Garlands.


Really? Since WHEN?  I'm looking at the original vinyl release
of CAD 211
and it has EIGHT (8) tracks ONLY.

Later pressings of the album (on CD and cassette) included 4
extra Peel
Sessions tracks from January 1983, as well as the first two
singles, "Speak
No Evil" and "Perhaps Some Other Aeon", making that a total of
14, which
is still not 13.


Mike


Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 18:34:48 -0400
From: Atomicboy9@AOL.COM
Subject: Fwd: desperate


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Forwarded message:

Date: 95-05-20 18:31:12 EDT
From: Atomicboy9 hi boys and girls-- just wondering if there is anyone on this list from salt lake city or the vicinity interested in getting together to chat. i simply can't find anyone around who is interested in the stuff that i am (at least no one who i can stand to be around or who has some high and mighty/holier than thou attitude about themselves or their musical knowledge). i just want to have stimulating conversation with someone without trying to outdo each others knowledge. if interested, mail me at atomicboy9@aol.com laterrrrs, kids.

Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 19:06:57 EDT
From: MR NORMAN N LEVENSTEIN (ANKX77A@PRODIGY.COM)
Subject: 4ad mac software


-- [ From: Norman Levenstein * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

some time ago, there was mention of an interactive LUSH promo for
macintosh. can this be downloaded somewhere on the web?

-bruce


Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 22:59:33 -0400
From: rebecca fagan (rfagan@TIAC.NET)
Subject: Re: 4ad mac software


>-- [ From: Norman Levenstein * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
>
>some time ago, there was mention of an interactive LUSH promo for
>macintosh. can this be downloaded somewhere on the web?
>
>-bruce

I got it from aol a while back. I haven't seen it on the web at all, but if
you really can't find it, let me know and maybe I can send it to you.

r

rebecca fagan: rfagan@tiac.net

Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 23:29:27 -0400
From: James J Casey (jjc@CLDC.HOWARD.EDU)
Subject: Re: Red House Painters


On Thu, 18 May 1995, Tim wrote:> >
>  Well IMHO RHP are (were?) a very unique band ... I would have
>  to say they really got me back into listening to music ...
>  which I had given up on for a while due to the trash that
>  seemed to be coming out ...
>   What is the extra track on the vinyl version of "Ocean Beach"??
>
The extra track is also on the CD version and appears to be a dreary jam
session put on the album for kicks.

Has anyone heard the RHP song included on the soundtrack to a movie coming
out soon (i forgot the damn title)?  For that matter, since I'm a sucker
for any RHP material, does anyone know of other releases besides the 4
albums out?

I don't know if anyone cares, but I saw RHP and Heidi Berry at the
Birchmere in VA 9/93.  It was a great show. "Japanese to English" and
"Dragonflies" were the standouts.  Waiting for the next tour.

--- "I told it all step by step.  How I ended on the island and how I
swam across the sea.  And it crosses my mind, that I may wake to a
knife in me."

--- "We'll have a house on the shore that showers my soul.  Washes away
the violence that runs in my blood.  Drains the pain that I've caused
you, down through." ---


Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 22:38:48 +0000
From: Dream Being (ahr@HIC.NET)
Subject: any houston 4ad ppl?


any houston ppl on this listserv? i would be interested in
establishing friendships.

if interested, email me ahr@mail.hic.net


Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 23:44:21 -0400
From: James J Casey (jjc@CLDC.HOWARD.EDU)
Subject: Spoonfed


Does anyone have or know how I can get my hands on Ian Master's Spoonfed
Hybrid album?  I'm dying to get a copy of it.

Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 21:12:10 -0700
From: illusory k (kelli@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Spoonfed


> Does anyone have or know how I can get my hands on Ian Master's Spoonfed
> Hybrid album?  I'm dying to get a copy of it.

  4ad mail order.


  *k*


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