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Subject: Re. throwing muses
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 01:33:34 -0400
From: Alfie Estrada (Soleil4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Re. throwing muses
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 02:02:19 EDT
From: D Andrew Reynhout (andrew.reynhout@ANALOG.COM)
Subject: Re: tim buckley
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:19:21 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: not 4ad related but heck, it's the smiths!
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 04:26:11 -0400
From: Julie Estrada (SORTRADA@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Box Set
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 04:30:27 -0400
From: Julie Estrada (SORTRADA@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: FSOL & the Orb
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:27:33 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: CT box set fav
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 04:33:30 -0400
From: Julie Estrada (SORTRADA@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: tim buckley/suicide
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 10:12:15 -0400
From: "C.J. Pace" (PACE003@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU)
Subject: Reply to CT box set fav
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:15:52 -0500
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Saint Etienne
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 16:21:17 BST
From: Anthony John Bailey (baileya@CS.MAN.AC.UK)
Subject: dcd song to the sibyl catalan
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 11:47:10 -0400
From: Todd Sanders (TS61822@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Verve weenies
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:36:49 -0400
From: Ryan Ferguson (ferguson@NETACCESS.ON.CA)
Subject: Re: tim buckley
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:56:49 -0400
From: Elisabeth Reynolds (ereynold@ENCORE.COM)
Subject: Re: hector zazou
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 18:57:09 +0100
From: j C j aubin (gec213@CENT1.LANCS.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: Belly EP
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 11:18:02 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Insides and related discography wanted.
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 11:20:30 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: esp summer??
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 14:27:33 -0400
From: Jim Napiorkowski (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Kendra Smith postcards
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:03:24 -0700
From: nelson@NOTW33.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: hector zazou
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 15:30:07 -0400
From: Todd Sanders (TS61822@AOL.COM)
Subject: FRANK BLACK: HELP me with BIOGRAPHY project for school. NEED
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 15:34:05 -0400
From: "bcg@macon.com" (bcg@MACON.COM)
Subject: Re: CT box set fav
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 16:59:00 EST
From: "rex c. arthur" (arthur@3SIXTY.VOYAGERCO.COM)
Subject: Re: CT box set fav (eric estrada on 4ad)
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 17:35:24 -0400
From: "...well i wonder..." (drex@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Re: esp summer cassettes
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 23:56:55 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Gilbert & Lewis
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 23:56:27 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Gilbert & Lewis
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 16:10:00 -0700
From: nelson@TRIFID.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: what lycia don't want you to know
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 16:18:46 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: Verve weenies
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 15:56:57 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: tim buckley
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:40:55 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: verve/insides
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 19:48:51 -0600
From: joanna (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: Trivia!
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 23:42:59 -0400
From: Alfie Estrada (Soleil4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: CT box set and others
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 23:42:53 -0400
From: Alfie Estrada (Soleil4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: esp summer cassettes
Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 00:09:23 -0400
From: Jim Napiorkowski (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Trivia!
Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 00:01:06 -0500
From: Jason Eugene Heindl (JEHEINDL%AMHERST.BITNET@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU)
Subject: Re: this mortal coil
Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 00:17:21 -0400
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Trivia!
Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 00:10:25 -0400
From: Jim Napiorkowski (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Red House Painters
Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 00:46:16 -0400
From: James J Casey (jjc@CLDC.HOWARD.EDU)
Subject: Tindersticks tour US?
Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 21:50:23 PDT
From: Zach Mainen (zach@SALK.EDU)

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 01:33:34 -0400
From: Alfie Estrada (Soleil4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re. throwing muses


C.J. Pace writes:
>does anyone know if the throwing muses ep (i don't recall the name)
>with "finished" and "cry baby cry" and two other songs (i don't recall
>the names) is available on cd?

The e.p. is Chains Unchanged and, yes, it is available on CD:  the
Japanese-release "12 Inch 87 Anthology" (CY 4415).  I've seen this CD
floating about in several stores still.  Shouldn't be too hard to find.

peace&love.  Alfie

---------------------------------------------
Alfonso Estrada = soleil4ad@aol.com
Foote, Cone & Belding vox 2129077299 fax 2129077290

                I honor the place in you in which the entire
                universe dwells... I honor the place in you which is
                of love, of truth, of light and of peace...
               When you are in that place in you, and
                I am in that place in me, we are ONE  --Namaste

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 02:02:19 EDT
From: D Andrew Reynhout (andrew.reynhout@ANALOG.COM)
Subject: Re: Re. throwing muses

              17 May 1995 01:33:34 -0400

> >does anyone know if the throwing muses ep (i don't recall the name)
> >with "finished" and "cry baby cry" and two other songs (i don't recall
> >the names) is available on cd?
>
> The e.p. is Chains Unchanged and, yes, it is available on CD:  the
> Japanese-release "12 Inch 87 Anthology" (CY 4415).  I've seen this CD
> floating about in several stores still.  Shouldn't be too hard to find.

Splitting hairs, but it's _Chains_Changed_.

I found the disc rather difficult to locate, but it *is* still
in print from the Nipponese perspective, so any store that sells
Japanese imports should be able to deal with it.

The obligatory Tanya Track(tm :-), "Reel", is perhaps her best.
the other track ("Snailhead") was rerecorded sans-Tanya for a
"Firepile" EP b-side.

Anyone who is undecided about Throwing Muses should listen to this
EP.  It's up there with the debut and _House_Tornado_, but for very
different reasons.  (and _The_Fat_Skier_, too... :-)

BTW-  No, "Cry Baby Cry" isn't a Beatles cover, although they do
cover that one on the "Not Too Soon" single.
--
Andrew Reynhout                                
Analog Devices, Incorporated      I write and speak only for myself.  Meow.
Computer Products Division     "You've got your whole life to do something,


Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:19:21 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: tim buckley

              May 16, 95 07:41:00 pm

Jacob Paul Leonard  wrote:
>
> >Is this guy Jeff Buckley's father?
>
> Yes...Jeff never got to know him though.  He killed himself before Jeff
> was born...
> ...he sure left a brilliant legacy though.

He killed himself when Jeff was quite young (8?) - the reason they never
got to know one another is that he split from Jeff's mother before the
birth - JB has talked in interviews about meeting his father just before
he killed himself and not really making any emotional connection.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 17/05/95
On my walkman this morning : Zappa - Playground Psychotics
Retreating, to the breath

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 04:26:11 -0400
From: Julie Estrada (SORTRADA@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: not 4ad related but heck, it's the smiths!


>hahaha, the 4ad list accusing another list of being off the
topic...
>blah, blah, blah and so on!

 You are wasting my mailbox space talking about this shit!
please stop...i'm asking nicely that everyone just get along
and stop starting fights.
PLEASE?!?!

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 04:30:27 -0400
From: Julie Estrada (SORTRADA@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Box Set


>it's tiny dynamine, by the way.

Oh thanks! it's actually my girlfriends box set. I have'nt been
listening to them for long. But anyway...our tiny dynaMINE is
missing and i'm pissed!

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:27:33 +0100
From: Andrew Norman (nja@LEICESTER.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: FSOL & the Orb

              95 11:53:08 am

vilexile  wrote:

[New FSOL EP]
>
> How would you compare the ISDN tracks with the non-ISDN tracks? This is
> disappointing. Not only was I under the impession that this was a long
> ep full of new material, but I can't really stand ISDN for the most
> part. Is the ep fairly uniform? Wasn't there supposed to be a new
> Amorphous record sometime soon?

I don't know about the new AA album - it was advertised on the inside of
"Lifeforms", but I haven't heard anything about it since so I suspect it
is not going to appear any time soon.  The story behind the "new" EP is
that it was released as a white label by "Smokin' Japanese Babe" several
months ago, and although there was speculation about it being FSOL
(despite its dissimilarity with their usual stuff), it was only
confirmed when the track listing for ISDN was announced and two of the
tracks were on that album.  The non-ISDN tracks are very similar to the
two on the album, one is about eight and a half minutes long, one five
minutes, so this isn't really an essential FSOL EP, especially if you
don't like ISDN.  I like it, and I'm going through a "Lifeforms is quite
a good album" phase, too - like my attitude to Red House Painters, my
estimation of FSOL's worth goes up and down like a rollercoaster.

> Any idea when the new Richard Kirk album is supposed to be released?

No, but it's some time fairly soon, I think - it was mentioned as one of
three or four upcoming Warp releases in the NME recently.

--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England // nja@le.ac.uk // 17/05/95
On my walkman this morning : Zappa - Playground Psychotics
Retreating, to the breath

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 04:33:30 -0400
From: Julie Estrada (SORTRADA@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: CT box set fav


 I just have a question. What is everyone's favorite CD in the
box set?


Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 10:12:15 -0400
From: "C.J. Pace" (PACE003@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU)
Subject: tim buckley/suicide


I thought Tim Buckley died of a heroine overdose.  Then I would assume he
purposely O.D.ed.  What a way to go!

C.J. Pace

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:15:52 -0500
From: kjv@AQUARIUS1.CIM.CDC.COM
Subject: Reply to CT box set fav

              17 May 95 04:33:30 EDT" <2fb9b65517cf002@cdshub.cdc.com>

> I just have a question. What is everyone's favorite CD in the
>box set?

Aikea-Guinea and that turquoise/grey cloudy one

___________________________________________________________________
Kent J. Vanderwaal
kjv@aquarius1.cim.cdc.com
"gifted child, omoidashite yo"
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Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 16:21:17 BST
From: Anthony John Bailey (baileya@CS.MAN.AC.UK)
Subject: Saint Etienne

              digest processor on Wed, 17 May 1995 00:00:17 -0500)

Michael Cheselka writes:
> So what is the list for St. Etienne, or web page?

I can't find a mailing list for the Etienne in the canonical list of such
things. (Do they have enough fans?)  As far as web pages go, the only thing
I am aware of is their stuff within Sony's pages (the Heavenly label is
apparently a Sony concern). The URL is "http://www.sony.com/
Music/ArtistInfo/SaintEtienne_TigerBay.html", and gives a brief biography
of the band.

Well, we all know that *pop-fans* run the best pages because they *care*.
So unless anybody knows of any hard-to-find pages that offer such a
service already, I'll use some of my Web quota and do-what-has-to-be-done.

Below is a rather incomplete discography. Anybody who wants to provide me
with the missing information and other items of interest which would
sit prettily on an Etienne Web page, please do e-mail me. (Not 4ad-l,
unless you feel that everyone needs to know!)

On with the motley, and sorry for the bandwidth:

=========================
Saint Etienne discography
=========================

Let's kiss and make up* / ?
(* vocals by ? )

Only love can break your heart* / Filthy**
(* vocals by Moira Lambert (Faith Over Reason))
(** vocals by Q-Tee )

Nothing can stop us / Speedwell

This is Radio Etienne / Only love can break your heart* / Wilson /
Carnt sleep / Girl V / Spring / She's the one / Stoned to say the
least / Nothing can stop us / Etienne gonna die / London belongs
to me / Like the swallow / Dilworth's theme

Join our club / Join our club (Chemically friendly zoom mix) /
People get real / Scene `93

Avenue / Some place else / Paper / Johnny in the echo cafe

You're in a bad way / Archway people / California snow story / Duke duvet

Mario's cafe / Railway jam / Date with Spelman / Calico* / Avenue /
You're in a bad way / Memo to Pricey / Hobart paving / Leafhound /
Clock milk / Conchita Martinez / No rainbows for me /
Here come clown feet / Junk the morgue / Chicken soup
(* vocals by Q-Tee )

Hobart paving / Your head my voice (voix revirement)* /
Who do you think you are?** / Who do you think you are? (quex-rd)***
(* mix by Van Dyke Parks)
(** backing vocals by Debsey (Dolly Mixtures))
(*** mix by Aphex Twin)

? I don't know the track listing for this at all!

I was born on Christmas day* / My Christmas prayer / Snowplough / Peterloo
(* duet vocals by Tim Burgess (Charlatans))

HVN37 : "Pale Movie", 1994.
Pale movie* / Highgate Road incident
(* backing vocals by Debsey and Siobhan Brookes )
(was there anything else on larger formats than 7inch single?)

Urban clearway / Former lover* / Hug my soul** / Like a motorway /
On the shore*** / Marble lions / Pale movie*,** / Cool kids of death /
Western wind**** / Tankerville / The boy scouts of America
(* backing vocals by Debsey )
(** backing vocals by Siobhan Brookes )
(*** vocals by Shara Nelson )
(**** vocals by Stephen Duffy )
(***** lots of stars all in a row )

(just contained lots of remixes?)

Hug my soul* / Hate your drug / I buy American records
(* backing vocals by SIobhan Brookes)
(is this right?)

Loads of stuff by others on Bob Stanley's Icerink label, obviously.

Thankyou pop-kids,

@*=-.,_,.--`'^'`--.,_,.--`'^'`--=*@@*=--`'^'`--.,_,.--`'^'`--.,_,.-=*@
|                              Anthony.                              |
@*=-.,_,.--`'^'`--.,_,.--`'^'`--=*@@*=--`'^'`--.,_,.--`'^'`--.,_,.-=*@

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 11:47:10 -0400
From: Todd Sanders (TS61822@AOL.COM)
Subject: dcd song to the sibyl catalan


hello i am back again, your faithful dcd scribe. today i offer the long
promised original catalan version of song to the sibyl in the original
catalan language.

as i wrote last time:

this week's selection comes from the french import cd - cant de la sibil.la
by montserrat/capella/reial/jordi savall. on astree records E8705 from 1988.
this cd features three original versions of the song to the sibyll. included
on the cd are the latin, the provencale, and the catalan versions (of which
we will concern ourselves with the last one). the dcd version is about 10% of
the original 22m53s version. in the notes to the cd it reads that the catalan
version is the one which has lingered through time despite a ban imposed upon
it in the 16th century. it is one of the most ancient songs in the catalan
region, dating from the 10th century. in the 13thC the refrains of the sibyl
were began to to be sung in polyphony. The chant was performed mainly during
the feasts of christmas, but was also in some places, also performed during
holy week and particularly on good friday.

Listening again to this 20+minute version, it is very clear where the part
dcd sings comes in. i am providing the complete text to the chant in english,
rather than in latin, unlike i have done with original versions previously,
 for i doubt few of you can read it. The chant is repeated a few times in the
20+min. version, however dcd does sing it all.

BTW dcd are extremely faithful to how this piece is supposed to be performed,
if this original cd is any indication.


so without further ado here we go.


Catalan Sibyl

Al jorn del Judici
parra` qui haura` fet servici.

Un rei vendra` perpetual
vestit de nostra carn mortal;
del cel vindra` tot certament
per fer del segle jutjament.

Ans que el Judici no sera`
un gran senyal se mostrara`:
lo sol perdra` lo resplendor,
la terra tremira` de por.

Apre`s se badara` molt fort
amostrant-se de greu conhort;
mostrar-se han ab crits i trons
les infernals confusions.

Del cel gran foc davallara`,
com a sofre molt pudira`;
la terra cremara` ab furor,
la gent haura` molt gran terror.

Apre`s sera` un fort senyal
d'un terratre`mol general;
les pedres per mig se rompran
i les muntanyes se fondran.

Llavors ningu' tindra` talent
d'or, riqueses ni argent,
esperant tots quina sera`
La sente`ncia que es dara`.

De morir seran tots sos talents,
esclafir-los han totes les dents;
no hi haura` home que no plor,
tot lo mo'n sera` en tristor.

Los puigs i plans seran iguals,
alli seran los bons i mals,
reis, ducs, comtes i barons,
que de llurs fets retran raons.

Apre`s vindra` terriblement
lo Fill de De'u omnipotent;
de morts i vius judicara`:
qui be' haura` fet alli es parra`.

Los infants qui nats no seran
dintre ses mares cridaran
i diran tots plorosament:
"Ajuda'ns, De'u omnipotent".

Mare de De'u, pregau per no's,
puix so'u mare de pecadors,
que bona sente`ncia hajam
i paradis possejam.

Vosaltres tots qui escoltau,
devotament a De'u pregau
de cor ab gran devocio',
que us porte a salvacio'.




well that was nearly impossible to type :)

hopefully i will have the original rimbaud pieces from zazou's album next
week. until then

todd sanders

all our movements are the air, the understanding


Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:36:49 -0400
From: Ryan Ferguson (ferguson@NETACCESS.ON.CA)
Subject: Re: Verve weenies


This is a quick note with reference to the question on whether THE Verve
would have to change the name on their older releases or not.  Well
someone mentioned that they were having a hard time finding the older
releases and asked if this was the reason.  No I'm sorry to tell you that
it is not the reason, the reason you can't find any of the band's older
material is that all of the singles have been deleted.  Currently there
are only three or four Verve (whoops, The Verve) cd's available: A
Storm In Heaven, No Come Down, This is Music (single), and possible the
Verve E.P..  It is only a word.

                                Cheers,
                                Ryan



"She bought the world, I paid the bills, I took those pills it was wind
in her sails, she climbed so high"

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:56:49 -0400
From: Elisabeth Reynolds (ereynold@ENCORE.COM)
Subject: Re: tim buckley


Jacob Paul Leonard  wrote:

>>Is this guy Jeff Buckley's father?
>
>      Yes...Jeff never got to know him though.
>      He killed himself before Jeff was born...

While it is true that Jeff Buckley never go to
know his father, it's not true that his father
died before Jeff was born.  Tim Buckley was
simple estranged from his (ex-?)wife and young
son; Jeff only saw him a few times.  I think Jeff
was 10 or so when Tim died.

--

ereynold@encore.com


Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 18:57:09 +0100
From: j C j aubin (gec213@CENT1.LANCS.AC.UK)
Subject: Re: hector zazou


How many different releases of the new Hector Zazou are there?  I think
I may have heard on this list that there are two.  Didn't the first
release come with lots of art postcards?  The only release i have seen
seems to be the domestic one with a regular booklet.  Is the first one
hard to find?

thanks,
jen


Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 11:18:02 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Belly EP


>
> It's your turn Ivo.
>


erg....

well, um.... the new Kendra Smith album is out...the cover is real
neat...it's got that organ that she plays all the time.  I haven't heard
it, tho.  I think the catalog number is CAD 5006?  *shrug*

oh! also... speaking of mistakes...this is really insignificant, but ...
I have Gilbert/Lewis' album 8 Time (?) CAD 16 CD and the back of the case
lists 7 tracks while the cd actually has 8 tracks listed on it and plays
8 tracks.

ok, the end.

love, Ivo

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 11:20:30 -0700
From: Ivo Lorelei -{Gothique Extraordinaire}- (beswick@chaph.usc.edu)
Subject: Re: Insides and related discography wanted.


The only other Insides release that is 4AD related that I know of is the
Clear Skin ep/single (TU 7).  I guess this means it was a temporary
release on Guernica.  It's one track, 40 minutes long, and it's real
pretty. Lotsa nice Xylophone and stuff. :)

Ivo

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 14:27:33 -0400
From: Jim Napiorkowski (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: esp summer??


anyone have any luck yet getting this through The Record Collector in
Livonia, MI?????

if so, how about some reviews! -bbk

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:03:24 -0700
From: nelson@NOTW33.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Kendra Smith postcards


There is a set of three postcards to promote the new
Kendra Smith album. They were printed by Bruce Licher
at IPR, so they have that usual letterpress look.
As far as I know, he stuck to one color scheme this time.


|     Brant Nelson | 1817 Corinth Ave. #10 | open your eyes
| Dewdrops Records | LA, CA 90025-5567     | to northern skies
| Uncommon music that deserves to be heard |
| http://www.astro.ucla.edu/students/nelson/dewdrops.html


Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 15:30:07 -0400
From: Todd Sanders (TS61822@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: hector zazou


>How many different releases of the new Hector Zazou are there?  I think
>I may have heard on this list that there are two.  Didn't the first
>release come with lots of art postcards?  The only release i have seen
>seems to be the domestic one with a regular booklet.  Is the first one
>hard to find?


there are several here in pittsbvurgh for $30.00 each since they are imports
from holland. yes its a swell box set with postcards in french or dutch
perhaps


todd sanders
all our movements are the air the understanding

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 15:34:05 -0400
From: "bcg@macon.com" (bcg@MACON.COM)
Subject: FRANK BLACK: HELP me with BIOGRAPHY project for school. NEED

              INFO!!

Hey Frank/Pixies Fans!

Help me with my history project!  I am doing my biography project on my
idol, Frank Black (Black Francis, Charles Thompson [I think that's his last
name?]).
I need the following info/items...please help if you can, it will come back
to you someday.  Please contribute!  Hurry, it is due Friday May 26, 1995.

  ::Posters, Pictures
  ::Videos (interviews, music videos (Pixies and FB), documentaries, etc.)

  ::Interviews
  ::Music (tapes, CDs, etc.) besides the following:
                  Pixies::: Albums: Boss, Doolit, Surfer, TLeM, ConPilgrim
             Frank Black::: Albums: FB, TotY, Black Session

  ::Any info regarding the formation of the Pixies, what Frank did before
the        Pixies, where he grew up, etc. Just alot of background stuff.

Please contribute or help me get the needed info.  Show your Frank enthusiasm!

email me if you can help.
Send stuff to:

Ben Garland
117 Covey Drive
Warner Robins, GA
         31088

I am counting on all you Frank Black fans to help!
Thanks so much,

BEn

dont have a solid job and I get pennies for allowance.  Please do this out
of the goodness of your heart.


Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 16:59:00 EST
From: "rex c. arthur" (arthur@3SIXTY.VOYAGERCO.COM)
Subject: Re: CT box set fav


I just have a question. is eric your father?

> I just have a question. What is everyone's favorite CD in the
>box set?


Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 17:35:24 -0400
From: "...well i wonder..." (drex@AMANDA.DORSAI.ORG)
Subject: Re: CT box set fav (eric estrada on 4ad)


merde!  u beat me in asking him the same question, rex.  :)

On Wed, 17 May 1995, rex c. arthur wrote:

> I just have a question. is eric your father?
>
> > I just have a question. What is everyone's favorite CD in the
> >box set?
>

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 23:56:55 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: esp summer cassettes


>anyone have any luck yet getting this through The Record Collector in
>Livonia, MI?????

Hey, I have an order for some ESP and HNIA stuff ready here to be be send
off to Time Stereo/Record Collector. Are there any problems?

Please let me know.

Frank
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Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 23:56:27 +0200
From: Frank Brinkhuis (brink2@XS4ALL.NL)
Subject: Re: Gilbert & Lewis


>oh! also... speaking of mistakes...this is really insignificant, but ...
>I have Gilbert/Lewis' album 8 Time (?) CAD 16 CD and the back of the case
>lists 7 tracks while the cd actually has 8 tracks listed on it and plays
>8 tracks.
>
>ok, the end.
>
>love, Ivo
>

On the back of the case the second version of 'Barge Calm' (the 1st track on
the B-side of the '3R4' LP (CAD 16) and track 5 on the CD) has been omitted.
That's all.

The end?

Frank

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Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 16:10:00 -0700
From: nelson@TRIFID.ASTRO.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: Gilbert & Lewis


If we're listing mistakes, don't forget the ones
on the first Clan Of Xymox album and the Cocteau's
Garlands (UK only). In each case, two song titles were switched.

brant

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 16:18:46 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@netcom.com)
Subject: what lycia don't want you to know


> B348234    LYCIA                       DAY IN THE SHARK CORNER
> $26.95     4AD     6/93   HOLLAND

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 15:56:57 -0700
From: vilexile (einexile@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: Verve weenies


On Wed, 17 May 1995, Ryan Ferguson wrote:

> the reason you can't find any of the band's older
> material is that all of the singles have been deleted.

!!!

>  Currently there
> are only three or four Verve (whoops, The Verve) cd's available: A
> Storm In Heaven, No Come Down, This is Music (single), and possible the
> Verve E.P..  It is only a word.

This Is Musc...is this the new single or what? I've not heard of it
except that I don't remember the names of the new singles. By "The Verve
EP" you mean the domestic release that was kind of a cross between
Gravity Grave and She's a Superstar, yes? YARD CD1 as it were.

It's really as shame. Those singles are masterpieces and a lot of space
was wasted on No Come Down. By my count this leaves six songs
unavailable. Very nice artwork, too. I hope there isn't a connection to
the lawsuit. I remember having a hell of a time finding Gravity Grave and
She's a Superstar when I finally did get enough into the band to want
these.

"All in the Mind" is a tremendous song. Damned shame...

> "She bought the world, I paid the bills, I took those pills it was wind
> in her sails, she climbed so high"

Edward Kaspel?



 einexile


Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:40:55 -0500
From: "Michael R. M. Cheselka" (mikec@FAUSTEX.COM)
Subject: Re: tim buckley


No, he killed himself after he was born, after meeting Jeff once,
when his was ten or twelve.

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 19:48:51 -0600
From: joanna (joroses@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU)
Subject: verve/insides


verve is awesome. that is my contribution to that thread. i sincerely hope
they are not going the oasis/stone posers stones-rip-off route like their
english compatriates are. they have turned their initial pink floyd rip-off
into something original and pretty fucking great to boot, and id hate to
lose my favorite band in the whole wide world.

okay, enough of sounding like einexile, i have a question:
i have an insides promo 12" GUP4 with a:skinned clean and b:further
distractions. ive never heard it mentioned here in all the insides talk. is
this like some rare slab of vinyl or something? picked mine up for $3.99
used; its even got bpms on it! (112 and 116, respectively. :)
-joanna-
late for work cuz she wrote this post
oh, and also, im considering starting a verve list. any interest? mail me
privately with suggestions, flames, ideas, delusions of grandeur or
overkill, etc.

---
joroses@mail.utexas.edu
andover '94
smile, someone out there loves you. and who knows, it might even be me! :)


Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 23:42:59 -0400
From: Alfie Estrada (Soleil4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: Trivia!


Alright...for all you afficionados et historians out there, just for fun:

What was the original name of the label started by Ivo-W R and Peter Kent we
now know eternally as 4AD?  And *why* the change of name?

Answer in a couple of days.  Hey, I'm pretty sure someone out there knows it
anyhow.  :-)

peace&love.  Alfie

---------------------------------------------
Alfonso Estrada = soleil4ad@aol.com
Foote, Cone & Belding vox 2129077299 fax 2129077290

                I honor the place in you in which the entire
                universe dwells... I honor the place in you which is
                of love, of truth, of light and of peace...
               When you are in that place in you, and
                I am in that place in me, we are ONE  --Namaste

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 23:42:53 -0400
From: Alfie Estrada (Soleil4AD@AOL.COM)
Subject: CT box set and others


Julie Estrada writes:
>Someone who lost their copy must have stolen it from me.
>I think I'll steal it back! haha!

That wretched, wretched thief.  And, nay, that 'aint stealing!! Call it
claiming back what's rightfully yours!  Oy.

And on another matter concerning the "Chains Unchanged" ep I wrote about a
couple of days back:  four folks wrote me BC in response to that requesting
store info and perhaps even a small advance - you know who you folks are.
 :-)

Believe me, I *wouldn't* have a problem picking up the CD for anybody who
really wanted it (I know that feeling all too well).  The problem is it may
be quite some time before I muster up enough courage (and moolah) to venture
into a music shop again.  I'll certainly be on the lookout for you folks the
next time I go out (perhaps in a month or two...sorry I've got other
expensive interests other than 4ad).  However...if you wanna be a step ahead
of me, here's help in another form.

Last time I was "out there", I saw the Japanese compilation in these 3

Pier Platters, Hoboken NJ:  (201) 795-9015 or (201) 795-4785;
Rockin' Rex, Yonkers NY:  call information (914) 555-1212;
Tower Records @ Lincoln Center, NYC:  call information (212) 555-1212;
Second Coming Records, NYC:  call information (212) 555-1212.

Let yer fingers do da walkin' and good luck!

peace&love.  Alfie...the OTHER Estrada

Unnecessary amusing postscript:  Not too long ago, some AOLers were
privileged enough to sit in on a live chat forum with The Wolfgang Press.  At
some point of the hour-long or so session, someone had bothered to ask them
"Do you guys do drugs and what kind?"  to which they answered:  "What kinds
have you got?"

Hee hee.

---------------------------------------------
Alfonso Estrada = soleil4ad@aol.com
Foote, Cone & Belding vox 2129077299 fax 2129077290

                I honor the place in you in which the entire
                universe dwells... I honor the place in you which is
                of love, of truth, of light and of peace...
               When you are in that place in you, and
                I am in that place in me, we are ONE  --Namaste


Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 00:09:23 -0400
From: Jim Napiorkowski (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: esp summer cassettes


I've heard from some people on the 'net that hey have had trouble getting a
copy ... they've sent money, but no cassette.  I called information, anf got
their number.  I talked to someone there who said that he was currently out
of the cassettes, but the guy i need to talk to would be in tomorrow
(Thursday the 18th)... I'll try again then...will keep you all posted.

so... did anyone get a copy yet?
-bbk

Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 00:01:06 -0500
From: Jason Eugene Heindl (JEHEINDL%AMHERST.BITNET@JHUVM.HCF.JHU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Trivia!


the original name was Axis.  why the change?  I believe because some
other Axis complained.  Or so sayeth _Lilliput_.

jason eugene

Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 00:17:21 -0400
From: Jason Bryant (Srilank@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: this mortal coil


> has a copy of that purportedly ultra-rare Tones on Tail 12" from
way back in 82 or 83 on 4AD for 75 bucks, I believe.

Ouch!!
I didn't realize that this 12" was that hard to come by, or that expensive.
 Can someone list some other releases on 4AD, that fetch more than or around
$50?  With exceptions to Lilliput, 13 yr itch, and Nature Mortes.

Jason

srilank@aol.com

Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 00:10:25 -0400
From: Jim Napiorkowski (BluBelKnol@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Trivia!


It was called AXIS I believe...if memory serves correctly.

I also think that it was changed because there was already another label with
that name... not sure if it was another UK label or what.

Also heard that 4AD was a play on the phrase "For A Day" which is usually how
long a new label typically lasted back in the early 80's.

comments?
-bbk

Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 00:46:16 -0400
From: James J Casey (jjc@CLDC.HOWARD.EDU)
Subject: Red House Painters


Is anyone as huge a fan of RHP as I am?  Been following them
since release of "Down Colorful Hill" in 1992.  Mark's songs
have gotten less fuzzy over the course of 4 albums.  Every
song is a unique experience.  What do you think of the latest release,
"Ocean Beach"?


-- "The hurting never ends, like birthdays and old friends.
    We forget, that this flesh, blood and bone is human." --

Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 21:50:23 PDT
From: Zach Mainen (zach@SALK.EDU)
Subject: Tindersticks tour US?


I've heard the Tindersticks are touring Europe right now and that
they're quite excellent live.  Does anyone know if/when they'll be in
the US (particularly NY or CA)?

zach


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