4ad-l Mail for 05-14-1995

Mail in Archive

Subject: Net Radio Station Seeks Bands
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 01:28:33 -0600
From: Norman Hajjar (norman_hajjar@hk.com)
Subject: I Love Verve
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 00:45:54 -0700
From: loren r delamarter (lorend@CS.PDX.EDU)
Subject: For all that asked Lemonjade/Sensualists
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 02:06:07 -0600
From: Elaun (ecable@ACS.UCALGARY.CA)
Subject: Re: einexile vs the world (and other flames)
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 10:23:09 -0700
From: Super 31 (super31@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: what 4ad stuff is out of print?
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 11:46:02 +0000
From: Dream Being (ahr@HIC.NET)
Subject: Re: his name is alive
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 16:09:35 -0400
From: Heather Elizabeth Phares (hepcat@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: what 4ad stuff is out of print?
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 15:46:43 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: what 4ad stuff is out of print?
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 15:42:33 +0000
From: Dream Being (ahr@HIC.NET)
Subject: Frazier Chorus..?
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 17:24:07 -0700
From: Bob (jzweig@UCLINK2.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Early (1980) 4AD mispresses.
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 10:03:07 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: Oedipus Nocturnal Emissions (WBCN) - Annual Mother's Day show
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 23:18:32 EDT
From: Matt Neimark (mattn@MIT.EDU)
Subject: TMC song to the siren
Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 23:31:07 EDT
From: Matt Neimark (mattn@MIT.EDU)

Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 01:28:33 -0600
From: Elaun (ecable@ACS.UCALGARY.CA)
Subject: Net Radio Station Seeks Bands (fwd)


This message was intended for Dain, but if anyone else is interested....
(Dain - your server is not letting me e-mail you anymore - what's up?)
Toodles!
Elaun
(ecable@acs.ucalgary)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
cipio.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net
From: Norman Hajjar (norman_hajjar@hk.com)
Subject: Net Radio Station Seeks Bands


This is a spam-free posting from a long-time lurker in alt.emusic.

We're looking for independent bands and artists to be included on our
Internet radio station, Radio HK.

Radio HK is the first station to broadcast continuously and exclusively
into the Internet, 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. We just converted to
technology that makes it possible for a listener to experience a
real-time audio feed through PC' s with modems connected to the Internet
via the World Wide Web. Since making the switch, we have attracted
listeners from 40 countries, 6 continents, all 50 states of the U.S.,
and over 300 colleges and universities.

The audio quality is not too bad, all things considered. A little worse
than AM Radio, and a lot better than shortwave.

All the bands featured on Radio HK receive a listing on our World Wide
Web home page. It gives listeners info on how to buy the music they
hear, direct from the artist.

We don't charge the bands. So how do we make money? Well, we're
negotiating with sponsors for the station, especially in categories like
record, beer, soft drinks, and athletic shoes.

Within the next 2 months, we will also be creating the Radio HK Indy
Jukebox, which will let a listener pick a tunes from a list of indy
bands and play them in real-time. If you participate in the regular
Radio HK programming, we'll let you know about the Indy Jukebox when
it's ready to rock.

How to submit your music
We have interesting legal problems. Since Radio HK broadcasts to the
world, there are several performance licensing companies (like BMI and
ASCAP here in the U.S.) that would seek to collect licensing fees from
us for music that's in their repertoire. That's OK. we like ASCAP and
BMI. But God only knows (or cares) what the local laws are in Thailand
and Estonia (both are among the far-flung places we have listeners). So
an ASCAP or BMI license has little use to us until they straighten out
the international rights issue.

Our solution is to get the license from the artists directly. So at the
end of this posting is a pesky little licensing agreement we need signed
before we can potentially broadcast your music. Even if you are a member
of an organization like BMI or ASCAP.

Two things are really, really important. First,  the signers need to be
the owners of the publishing rights to the music.  Be sure to get
everyone who was in on the composition of the tune.
Second, if there are different composers to different songs on the
albums/CD's (etc.), you have to break each composition out separately.
It's a pain, but we need it that way.

Legally, there's nothing mysterious here. The agreement lets us
broadcast your work through the Internet (or post it on a web page, say,
for the Indy Juke Box). It says we can't sell your songs. It says that
everyone who has publishing rights has signed. It lets us dupe your work
for two purposes: 1) to put it on the air; and 2) to send out copies of
the shows to journalists throughout the world (we thought you'd like
that).

That's all there is to it. If you want to contact me, reach me through
email at norman_hajjar@hk.com. And send me mail (and large quantities of
music) at:

Norman Hajjar
Hajjar/Kaufman New Media Lab
310 Washington Blvd., Suite 1
Marina del Rey CA 90292

Cheers,



         Norman Hajjar


Licensing Agreement

We grant a license to Hajjar/Kaufman and Radio HK for the performance of
the following copyrighted works for the purpose of broadcasting or
otherwise conveying the works throughout the world via the Internet:
Titles of songs

____________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________
It is represented that everyone who owns the publishing rights to the
above creative works has signed this agreement. It is understood that
Hajjar/Kaufman's New Media Lab may not resell any of our copyrighted
works without our express permission. We grant permission for
Hajjar/Kaufman to duplicate the above mentioned creative works on tape,
audio CD, or other digital means only for the purpose of transmission
into the Internet, and as stipulated in the following provision. We
additionally grant permission for Hajjar/Kaufman and Radio HK to
duplicate and distribute our creative work to journalists throughout the
world in tape or audio CD format for purposes of public relations.

Signed

______________________                  _______________________
signature and date                              signature and date


______________________                  _______________________
signature and date                              signature and date


______________________                  _______________________
signature and date                              signature and date

Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 00:45:54 -0700
From: loren r delamarter (lorend@CS.PDX.EDU)
Subject: I Love Verve


Yeah, I just picked up Astrud Gilberto's _Look To The Rainbow_ (
arranged by Gil Evans) and _Beach Samba_. What great music on the Verve
label! No more alternative/grunge even if it's 4ad, thankyou.

Towa Tei's "Technova" is really cool too.
I was disappointed with the Pixie's _Bossa Nova_.

Since I can't get off the list, I decided to make a bit of noise.
(einexile, what was that (IP spoofing) solution to exit the list?)

-LorenD

OnNow=> I care because you do - aphex twin
(sire by electra of warner copyrighted by chrysalis music)

Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 02:06:07 -0600
From: Elaun (ecable@ACS.UCALGARY.CA)
Subject: For all that asked Lemonjade/Sensualists


Hello
Sorry to post this to the whole list but there were so many responses (
and I left the sheet of paper with the addresses on it at home to boot)

Lemonjade are a foursome from Calgary who haven't been together for a
year, but are extremely focused individuals.  Their goal is to create
music "that will appeal to a lot of people and on the other side music
that will appeal to only a few people" to quote guitarist Lyle Crilly.
They ventured into the recording studio only days after forming the band
because they were curious to hear what they sounded like.  The result was
"Special" a song which hit our Top of the VOX chart in August and
remained there (in various placings) until the early months of 1995.
Their second single (if you could call it that) is entitled "Fragile
Little People" placed at #3 in March and #7 last month.  Their influences
vary a great deal from His Name is Alive and Slowdive to Rush, the
Ramones and Kiss; However, all members admit they were raised on Brit pop
providing the common background to base their songs. "It's not hard music
to listen to," says singer Heather Boland. "It's beautifulstuff.  You
can't really describe it.  It's ambient in some spots...."  They maintain
that eventhough it is easy for a band to stick to one style of music they
don't.  They are not afraid to try things out and change things if
neccessary.  Lemonjade has just released a 6 song ep entitled _Birth_
featuring the two songs mentioned above and 3 other wonderful pop songs
and one swingy jazzy number (which sort of reminds one of The Cure's
"Lovecats" in a way) and is currently retailing for $10 CDN (plus postage
for out of town orders).*This is a condensed version of an article I
wrote on the band for the January 95 edition of VOX magazine.

The Sensualists second release _Lovesongs of Chaos and Desire_ "is a
collection of fifteen sonoros pop melodies and exotic textures.  Their
sound is a powerfully crafted mixture of extended studio manipulated
guitars, effects, percussion, and vocals" (from their press release).
Robert Faust, in his record review for VOX Dec.94, wrote "This is the
disc aimed straight for that place in your head, heart, and soul unite.
Forget long, drawn out guitar solos, images of young bodies slamming
themselves against one another, or angst worn on the outside.  This is a
deeper drift, ethereal, subliminal messages caught out of the corner of
your eye as you shuffle along the underpass...  ...To compare this band
to anyone would only serve as a reference point rather than adequately
describe the talent of this band, they rest comfortably among other
ethereal giants such as the Cocteau Twins or Dead Can Dance but they are
distinct.  this is a disc for late nights, early mornings, and if someone
still has time, afternoon tea".  Currently LOCAD is retailing for $15 CDN
(plus postage).  Their first album _Boone_ was released in limited edition
cassette form with brilliant artwork.  There are no more copies avaiable,
but plans are in the works to re-release the album on CD.

If you require any more specific information please drop me a line.

Ciao!

Elaun
(ecable@acs.ucalgary.ca)


Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 10:23:09 -0700
From: Super 31 (super31@NETCOM.COM)
Subject: Re: einexile vs the world (and other flames)


> > Actually, Verve records has been around for far longer than The Verve
> > and represent considerably more talent... true The Verve has done some
> > cool music, but jazz is a far superior form of music than any
> > alternative three-chord song. Just my opinion.
>
> ...and what a cool, hip opinion it is!  Actually, thanks for completely
> missing the point.  I don't give a flying one how long Verve has been
> around, or how cool it is to like jazz.  The point is (your attention,
> please!): if Verve (the label) thinks its customers are going to mistake
> The Verve's albums as Verve label releases (especially when they're
> usually found in a completely different part of the store), then they
> (Verve, the label) must think their fans are idiots (end of point).
>
> ---Jeremy  My head's a rocket full of gin but
>                                     not quite dead.
>

I'll throw in my cool, hip opinion one more time...
I highly doubt Verve (the label) is taking their fans for idiots. Its
the record store employees that may be too dumb to differentiate between the
label and the band, eh?
...and what's with this new idea that one likes jazz just to be "cool"?
Give me a break.
I'll stop here.
Kelly

Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 11:46:02 +0000
From: Dream Being (ahr@HIC.NET)
Subject: what 4ad stuff is out of print?


i was getting a bit worried with the mention of Livonia being out of
print and all.. as there are a number of cds that i have to have,
that i haven't gotten around getting yet.. so, what is scarce?

arthur


Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 16:09:35 -0400
From: Heather Elizabeth Phares (hepcat@UMICH.EDU)
Subject: Re: his name is alive


HIs Name Is Alive...It comes from a day in school when Warrens class was
studying Abe Lincoln...while he was taking notes the words "his name is
alive" stood out and he named the band after it. Yes, the single was "the
Dirt Eaters" and it can be found on the Ryko reissue of Home Is in Your Head
(as well as a CD5).

Close to Superfun MI,

Heather


On Fri, 12 May 1995, Dream Being wrote:

> was just wondering.. his name is alive - is this a christ reference?
> i'm also reminded of lyrics 'you aint got god in the city, and i'm so
> tired of this'
>
> anyway..
>
> btw, what was the name of the hnia single just before mouth by mouth,
> put out by 4ad,  was it dirt eaters? hmm..
>

Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 15:46:43 -0500
From: King of the Monsters! (eewittme@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU)
Subject: Re: what 4ad stuff is out of print?


>i was getting a bit worried with the mention of Livonia being out of
>print and all.. as there are a number of cds that i have to have,
>that i haven't gotten around getting yet.. so, what is scarce?
>
>arthur

Asking for the benefit of the rest of the list:  Do you want to know
everything on 4AD that's out of print (the list is quite lengthy), certain
bands, certain formats (i.e. LPs, 12"s, CDs, MCs, etc...)?  What gives?

Eric E. Wittmershaus
eewittme@students.wisc.edu
eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu


Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 15:42:33 +0000
From: Dream Being (ahr@HIC.NET)
Subject: Re: what 4ad stuff is out of print?


Asking for the benefit of the rest of the list:  Do you want to know
everything on 4AD that's out of print (the list is quite lengthy), certain
bands, certain formats (i.e. LPs, 12"s, CDs, MCs, etc...)?  What gives?

Eric E. Wittmershaus
eewittme@students.wisc.edu
eric.wittmershaus@mail.admin.wisc.edu

was wondering mostly about cd's.


Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 17:24:07 -0700
From: Bob (jzweig@UCLINK2.BERKELEY.EDU)
Subject: Frazier Chorus..?


Does anyone know what happened to Frazier Chorus?  I realize that
they left 4AD a while ago, but I thought someone may still follow
them...

What are the band members doing now?  Does Frazier Chorus still exist?
Where can I get lots of Frazier Chorus stuff?

Much obliged -


Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 10:03:07 +0200
From: Matthias Walzner (umw17@RZSERV2.FH-LUENEBURG.DE)
Subject: Early (1980) 4AD mispresses.


>
>Urm..someone mentioned a mispress of AD 6...for those of you who don't
>want to buy the item off said person, but are interested in the details,
>here goes, as I have the same mispress and more...

>As for how rare these are, who knows?? I  picked them up by accident, so
>they can't be impossible to find.
>
>Andrew

I am that "off said person"....What is this guy trying to say ?

That I want to rip off someone by selling a mispress...Mispresses are as far
as I know : always rare!
....considering that Andrew lives in the UK and I picked my copy up there ,
too.....it can be found...otherwise I would not have it.

Matthias.


Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 23:18:32 EDT
From: Matt Neimark (mattn@MIT.EDU)
Subject: Oedipus Nocturnal Emissions (WBCN) - Annual Mother's Day show

              05 May 1995 00:00:59 CDT." <9505050405.AA21546@MIT.EDU>

Anybody here (from the Boston area)
as religious a follower of this annual show as me?

I'd like to start a thread discussing the music of this year's (and any other
year) if desired.

I haven't compiled my track list yet but I'll get it out as soon as possible.
The show is incredibly 4ADish.

I'd like to start the discussion by commenting that the show was not quite
as good this year as last year.  I was really hoping Oedipus would play some
Moon seven times but he never got around to it.  It still (as it is every year)
an excellent show.

Bands I recognized played:
-------------------------
Marianne Faithful
Kendra Smith (recently signed to 4AD - formerly of Opal and Dream Syndicate)
Red House Painters - Summer Dress
Malcom McLaren (from his new cool Paris CD)
Milla (remember, this is a Mother's Day show)
Bjork (Hector Zazou's Song from the Seas)
Peter Murphy - Cascade
Sinead Oconnor - Thank You for Caring

In case noone remembered last year bands played:
-----------------------------------------------
Insides, Glee Club, Sympathy F, Hector Zazou's Sahara Blue, Hole, Dead Can
Dance, Sonic Youth, Liz Phair, Mazzy Star, the Pretenders, Sisters of Mercy

Matt

Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 23:31:07 EDT
From: Matt Neimark (mattn@MIT.EDU)
Subject: TMC song to the siren

              09 May 1995 00:01:03 CDT." <9505090409.AA26577@MIT.EDU>

Who originally did thsi song?
Matt


erikas@evo.org, last updated by Eyesore Automation on 5-14-1995